g:\07. razno\naktalk archive\2021\2021-1.txt ************************************************************************ From naktalk at lists.naks.com Sun Jan 3 12:59:33 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Bob Naylor via Naktalk) Date: Sun, 3 Jan 2021 06:59:33 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] MR-1 control motor Message-ID: Hi all, It looks like I have a control motor problem in my MR-1. The deck had been stored for two years. It worked fine when stored. Now I get no action from the control motor. It is commanded 8+ volts for a second or so when "play" "FF" or "REW" is pressed. Unless someone has a better idea it looks like I have to remove the motor. By looking at the service manual it looks like I may be able to remove the motor without removing anything else. Do I see that correctly? Any thoughts would be appreciated. Thank you, Bob N -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Mon Jan 4 14:58:55 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Berndt-Inge Petersson via Naktalk) Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2021 13:58:55 +0000 Subject: [naktalk] Motor to Nakamichi 600 wanted Message-ID: Hi all, I am looking for a motor to my Nakamichi 600 as there is a gap in the motor bearing, which causes it to vibrate. New original may be difficult but better used or a compatible motor is of interest. Text on the back of my current is: Nakamichi FG-SERVO MHX-8B2RSN Made in Japan Regards Berndt-Inge Petersson Gothenburg Sweden -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Mon Jan 4 18:44:24 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (perry via Naktalk) Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2021 12:44:24 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] MR-1 mode motor Message-ID: <4a134db6-60d9-4ef5-9da2-455123d30f3b@Perrys-iphone> Yes, the mode motor is relatively easy to remove on its own on the Sankyo transports. Like always, reinstalling the cams under the fingers takes utmost care when the transport is still in the frame, so I typically remove the transport, which is so easy on the BX-300 compared to any of then others. Sent from Xfinity Connect App -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Mon Jan 4 23:00:46 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (via Naktalk) Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2021 09:00:46 +1100 Subject: [naktalk] Motor to Nakamichi 600 wanted In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <000001d6e2e5$0f2f3af0$2d8db0d0$@westnet.com.au> Hi Berndt-Inge Petersson , Sweden # Sorry , I don't have a , replacement FG -servo motor for Nakamichi 600 # I recommend consider buying a Nakamichi 600 and use it for spares . # OR make 1 good 600 deck from the 2 x Nakamichi 600 decks Kind regards Russell Storey Stones Sound Studio ( Australia ) From: Naktalk On Behalf Of Berndt-Inge Petersson via Naktalk Sent: Tuesday, 5 January 2021 12:59 AM To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks Subject: [naktalk] Motor to Nakamichi 600 wanted Hi all, I am looking for a motor to my Nakamichi 600 as there is a gap in the motor bearing, which causes it to vibrate. New original may be difficult but better used or a compatible motor is of interest. Text on the back of my current is: Nakamichi FG-SERVO MHX-8B2RSN Made in Japan Regards Berndt-Inge Petersson Gothenburg Sweden -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Wed Jan 6 18:03:06 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Bob Naylor via Naktalk) Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2021 12:03:06 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] MR-1 control motor In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi all, de-oxit fixed it. Hopefully for a while. Bob N On Sun, Jan 3, 2021, 6:59 AM Bob Naylor wrote: > Hi all, It looks like I have a control motor problem in my MR-1. The deck > had been stored for two years. It worked fine when stored. > > Now I get no action from the control motor. It is commanded 8+ volts for a > second or so when "play" "FF" or "REW" is pressed. > > Unless someone has a better idea it looks like I have to remove the motor. > By looking at the service manual it looks like I may be able to remove the > motor without removing anything else. Do I see that correctly? > > Any thoughts would be appreciated. > > Thank you, Bob N > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Thu Jan 7 13:50:43 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (David Edwards via Naktalk) Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2021 12:50:43 +0000 Subject: [naktalk] Hot Dragon Message-ID: <3698ddb1-b243-a9ca-5b8c-b0051d5cec34@talktalk.net> Hi There, I've started playing my Dragon more in lockdown. It has stood on a shelve next to my PC for 15 years, with me putting a tale a week through it to keep it 'loose'. It had seemed to get hot at times in the old position, but it had items stacked on top, so I didn't take much notice. However, now (with nothing on top), after two sides of a tape, it smells warm to hot, especially if I put my nose near the front controls. Nothing feels hot, it is just a hot smell. Not a hot dust smell, but mildly electrical. Does this ring any bells for anyone? Do Dragons do this? Any ideas? Last serviced in 2015, but little used since, as I've said. Many thanks, David -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Thu Jan 7 15:52:20 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Kevin Fetner via Naktalk) Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2021 14:52:20 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [naktalk] MR-1 control motor References: <1289734602.8198700.1610031140449.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1289734602.8198700.1610031140449@mail.yahoo.com> Bob,There's a guy on Tapesheads who has a business called Pacific Stereo. One of the things is specializes in, is the small cassette motors to buy. He's found a source for them. While De-Oxit works, it's a band aid with variable results. If it's easy to remove/replace, I'd sure check him out. Nothing uber fancy about the small motors that Nak used other than they corrode if inactive and hence fail. Kevin -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Thu Jan 7 16:37:11 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Kevin Fetner via Naktalk) Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2021 15:37:11 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [naktalk] Belt kits & pinch roller References: <2019193059.8215678.1610033831091.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <2019193059.8215678.1610033831091@mail.yahoo.com> This query is directed at the pros here that work on Nak decks. What is your current source for belt kits and pinch roller that spec out as good or better than original? And PLEASE don't bring up the specter of Fred Marrs and/or his daughter running the business etc. That dead horse has been kicked enough here. 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URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Thu Jan 7 18:36:18 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Kevin Fetner via Naktalk) Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2021 17:36:18 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [naktalk] Belt kits & pinch roller In-Reply-To: References: <2019193059.8215678.1610033831091.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <2019193059.8215678.1610033831091@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1917556517.8263382.1610040978847@mail.yahoo.com> Yes, that’s exact why I wanted the techs that repair Nak decks for a living to weigh in on what they are currently using with success.  Kevin Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Thursday, January 7, 2021, 8:46 AM, Sky Email wrote: Take a look at this thread... http://www.tapeheads.net/showthread.php?t=86126 On 7 Jan 2021, at 15:37, Kevin Fetner via Naktalk wrote: This query is directed at the pros here that work on Nak decks. What is your current source for belt kits and pinch roller that spec out as good or better than original? And PLEASE don't bring up the specter of Fred Marrs and/or his daughter running the business etc. That dead horse has been kicked enough here. By unanimous consent, it's pretty much been observed that if you send money there, you may never receive product in your lifetime. Kevin ========---------------------------------------------------------=========          Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com ========---------------------------------------------------------=========                        Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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What is your current source for belt kits and pinch roller that spec out as good or better than original? >> >> And PLEASE don't bring up the specter of Fred Marrs and/or his daughter running the business etc. That dead horse has been kicked enough here. By unanimous consent, it's pretty much been observed that if you send money there, you may never receive product in your lifetime. >> >> Kevin >> ========---------------------------------------------------------========= >> Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com >> ========---------------------------------------------------------========= >> Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist >> Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >> ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Thu Jan 7 19:33:24 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Kevin Fetner via Naktalk) Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2021 18:33:24 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [naktalk] Belt kits & pinch roller In-Reply-To: <0352816C-BFA7-44AE-B1F7-B92FC08FE9CD@icloud.com> References: <1917556517.8263382.1610040978847@mail.yahoo.com> <0352816C-BFA7-44AE-B1F7-B92FC08FE9CD@icloud.com> Message-ID: <137318123.8278745.1610044404863@mail.yahoo.com> Well, Perry is well a respected Nak tech so that should give you some confidence. Yes, I know he is. But I want to hear form Hermann and the rest as well if all all possible. Kevin On Thursday, January 7, 2021, 10:25:10 AM PST, Rob Smith wrote: Well, Perry is well a respected Nak tech so that should give you some confidence.  On 7 Jan 2021, at 17:59, Kevin Fetner via Naktalk wrote: Yes, that’s exact why I wanted the techs that repair Nak decks for a living to weigh in on what they are currently using with success.  Kevin Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Thursday, January 7, 2021, 8:46 AM, Sky Email wrote: Take a look at this thread... http://www.tapeheads.net/showthread.php?t=86126 On 7 Jan 2021, at 15:37, Kevin Fetner via Naktalk wrote: This query is directed at the pros here that work on Nak decks. What is your current source for belt kits and pinch roller that spec out as good or better than original? And PLEASE don't bring up the specter of Fred Marrs and/or his daughter running the business etc. That dead horse has been kicked enough here. 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URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Thu Jan 7 21:36:36 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Rodrigo via Naktalk) Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2021 17:36:36 -0300 Subject: [naktalk] Belt kits & pinch roller In-Reply-To: <0352816C-BFA7-44AE-B1F7-B92FC08FE9CD@icloud.com> References: <0352816C-BFA7-44AE-B1F7-B92FC08FE9CD@icloud.com> Message-ID: <032A5FBA-15D4-4593-A735-E27ADE845B10@terra.com.br> I’d love to hear of a new and reliable source! Rodrigo Krause dos Santos Rocha Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 7, 2021, at 15:27, Rob Smith via Naktalk wrote: > >  > Well, Perry is well a respected Nak tech so that should give you some confidence. > >>> On 7 Jan 2021, at 17:59, Kevin Fetner via Naktalk wrote: >>> >>  Yes, that’s exact why I wanted the techs that repair Nak decks for a living to weigh in on what they are currently using with success. >> >> Kevin >> >> >> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone >> >> On Thursday, January 7, 2021, 8:46 AM, Sky Email wrote: >> >> Take a look at this thread... >> >> http://www.tapeheads.net/showthread.php?t=86126 >> >>> On 7 Jan 2021, at 15:37, Kevin Fetner via Naktalk wrote: >>> >>> This query is directed at the pros here that work on Nak decks. What is your current source for belt kits and pinch roller that spec out as good or better than original? >>> >>> And PLEASE don't bring up the specter of Fred Marrs and/or his daughter running the business etc. That dead horse has been kicked enough here. 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URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Fri Jan 8 16:17:09 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (perry via Naktalk) Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2021 10:17:09 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Belt kits & pinch rollers Message-ID: Willy is the one that emailed me about using the Dynamic Technology belts, which he said gave better results than the PRB FRSP belts he had tried. He asked if I would try them and see. Myself and some Tapeheads did order a few of them, all with poor results as a substitute for D4096. They measure about 9.5” and are definitely thicker. However, I have used 2 of them so far with very acceptable results on 2 DR-2 decks. Their classic idler tires are an excellent fit, well priced. They are definitely a bit softer than the ones that PRB sells specifically for the classic transport. Either gives silent operation with any deck I’ve tried. Being a little softer allows easier absolute centering on the hub. I would like Willy to also chime in with some details. However, I fully understand if he prefers to keep his sources or methods to himself. He does all the work and carries the cost and everyones else benefits? Not a good business model. There is no consensus on ANY belt that always meets and none so far that exceed even old “not over dried or stretched original Nak belts”. Even the last few years of Marrs belts performed poorly. I have a few much earlier Marrs belts of various sizes (not for sale) that still have been consistently excellent. For US customers, and some international customers, a number of us on Tapeheads have tried all the various PRB FRSP “designed for Nakamichi belts”. FRSP 9.6, FRSP 9.2, FRSP 8.97, and FRSP 6.5. The FRSP 6.5 has consistently, for everyone so far, performed excellent, but of course, they are only sized for single capstan Sankyo drives so very limited applications. The FRSP series differs from the other series belts as their thickness is all .018” or better, typically the bellweather measurement. FRSP 9.2 was supposed to be the direct substitute for D4096. Everyone has had poor results with it, as too tight. Others have used the far thicker FRW9.2 with good results. I personally have NEVER had good results with that belts. Like .12% W&F. They are too tight and display increased motor/bearing drone. FRSP 9.6 has been a mixed bag for us. It has never performed well on the RX-505 or 303. Yet, for me, it has been a consistent performer on the ZX-7 and 680(et all) decks. Typically seeing .045 to .06%. Always a touch worse than a good original belt, that appears too loose but still works. Others have had horrible luck with it, like 0.15% on a 680 or LX-3/5. It truly appears to be motor sensitive. I just finished the third ZX-7 with that belt, with a .05% W&F. Not spec, but today, about as food as it gets. ALL the FRSP belts are side sensitive. They must be flipped to determine the best side. Most decks do not require belt removal or any disassembly to flip over. They are not directional, just side sensitive. For me, typically one side will play at 3150Hz and just flipping it will deliver 3170Hz on the same tape. The faster side is the better W&F side. Typically a .01 to .02% difference but more importantly it delivers less peak swings. FRSP 8.97 has been excellent on the ZX-9, and almost as good on the CR-4/5/7/BX-300. Then there are belts from a seller in Portugal called webspareparts. Their belts unfortunately are not sold by size, but by deck model number, and they supply different belts for different models that all take D4096. I have no explanation for it. The ones listed for ZX-7 performed poorly on the ZX-7, yet surprisingly, have performed quite well on 2 RX-505s. Others have purchased from them, buying the “582” kit and have had very good results on more different models. Bottom line, for me, and a few others, we have to buy quantity and try various belts before settling on the best. Not desirable for the average DIYer, but that’s my MO for now. Sent from Xfinity Connect App -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Fri Jan 8 23:30:21 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Ron Bell via Naktalk) Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2021 17:30:21 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Dragon NAAC Clicking Message-ID: <124a01d6e60d$da01c240$8e0546c0$@googlemail.com> Good Evening, This is an update to a post from a few months back. Am resurrecting an old Dragon I have had since new. Have: * Replaced all belts. * Toughly cleaned the heads. On some tapes I hear the NAAC clicking, more so on reverse playback. Observations * The blue belt (NAAC motor to heads) visually looks OK. * Manually, turning motor wheel, I can move the NAAC to either end of travel, as verified by the alignment indicator on the motor assemble and watching the heads moved back and forth. * The heads are not at the limits of travel when I observe the clicking, they are not hitting the stops. * The alignment indicator seems to mostly be toward the left 2/3 (looking from the front) during playback. * The wheels are turning and I assume moving the heads while the clicking is occurring. (perhaps things are not moving as easily as they shuld? Questions: * Could this be a lubrication issue in the heads mechanism (unit was idle for 25 years), is there something I can lube without damaging the adjustments? * I have a full suite of electronic test gear, but no access to test tapes. Are there any adjustments I do? Otherwise the unit is working great. Thank you in advance. Ron -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Sat Jan 9 12:51:50 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Marcelo Mansour particular via Naktalk) Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2021 08:51:50 -0300 Subject: [naktalk] RES: Dragon NAAC Clicking In-Reply-To: <124a01d6e60d$da01c240$8e0546c0$@googlemail.com> References: <124a01d6e60d$da01c240$8e0546c0$@googlemail.com> Message-ID: Hi Ron, I had the same problem with emu Dragon two years ago, and I managed to solve it by disassembling the azimuth engine part. The azimuth cable was locked and the engine was trying to make the adjustment and was unable to, so I heard this infernal clicking. In my case I had to change the azimuth cable because my original was very stuck and did not improve after the lubrication attempt and the azimuth motor belt also changed. I bought this azimuth cable from IDK-Japan (Naks technical assistance from Japan) the part number you can find on page 19 of the service manual. Then I had to adjust the azimuth according to the instructions on the page. 9/10/11/12/13 and it was a lot of work, my luck that I have the T100 and the cassette stroke for this adjustment. Good luck!!! Marcelo De: Naktalk Em nome de Ron Bell via Naktalk Enviada em: sexta-feira, 8 de janeiro de 2021 19:30 Para: naktalk at lists.naks.com Assunto: [naktalk] Dragon NAAC Clicking Good Evening, This is an update to a post from a few months back. Am resurrecting an old Dragon I have had since new. Have: * Replaced all belts. * Toughly cleaned the heads. On some tapes I hear the NAAC clicking, more so on reverse playback. Observations * The blue belt (NAAC motor to heads) visually looks OK. * Manually, turning motor wheel, I can move the NAAC to either end of travel, as verified by the alignment indicator on the motor assemble and watching the heads moved back and forth. * The heads are not at the limits of travel when I observe the clicking, they are not hitting the stops. * The alignment indicator seems to mostly be toward the left 2/3 (looking from the front) during playback. * The wheels are turning and I assume moving the heads while the clicking is occurring. (perhaps things are not moving as easily as they shuld? Questions: * Could this be a lubrication issue in the heads mechanism (unit was idle for 25 years), is there something I can lube without damaging the adjustments? * I have a full suite of electronic test gear, but no access to test tapes. Are there any adjustments I do? Otherwise the unit is working great. Thank you in advance. Ron -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Sat Jan 9 13:29:34 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Kevin Fetner via Naktalk) Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2021 12:29:34 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [naktalk] Belt kits & pinch rollers References: <1292577308.129803.1610195374883.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1292577308.129803.1610195374883@mail.yahoo.com> Thank you Perry;to take the time and post all that! I wasn't asking anybody to give up the farm on what they do. If it takes an assortment of belts to test and repair original decks, that's very unfortunate and time consuming. What about ESL....are they still selling original belts or are we to assume they are too old now to be reliable? I have no test equipment so trying in an assortment of belts to get a 'good sound' is just not going to be in the cards.  Kevin -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Sat Jan 9 16:09:04 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (David Frow via Naktalk) Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2021 15:09:04 +0000 Subject: [naktalk] Belt kits & pinch rollers In-Reply-To: <1292577308.129803.1610195374883@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1292577308.129803.1610195374883.ref@mail.yahoo.com>, <1292577308.129803.1610195374883@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: If you are taking the time to change the belts on a deck it is worth doing it properly, all you need is a speed tape (ANT Audio for example sells them reasonably), or you can find someone that has a Dragon, Quartz DD Technics or something similar in good working order to record you a 3khz tape, this should be sufficient for speed setting on most decks and reasonable W+F measurements down to about 0.04-0.05% to check the deck is still working reasonably well. Play the output into a PC and then use WFGui to check/set the speed - which is free. If you are changing capstan belts the speed will need adjusting. Regards, David. ________________________________ From: Naktalk on behalf of Kevin Fetner via Naktalk Sent: 09 January 2021 12:29 To: naktalk at lists.naks.com Subject: Re: [naktalk] Belt kits & pinch rollers Thank you Perry;to take the time and post all that! I wasn't asking anybody to give up the farm on what they do. If it takes an assortment of belts to test and repair original decks, that's very unfortunate and time consuming. What about ESL....are they still selling original belts or are we to assume they are too old now to be reliable? I have no test equipment so trying in an assortment of belts to get a 'good sound' is just not going to be in the cards. Kevin -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Sat Jan 9 20:42:20 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Joy-Ell & Rainer via Naktalk) Date: Sat, 09 Jan 2021 14:42:20 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Belt kits & pinch rollers In-Reply-To: References: <1292577308.129803.1610195374883.ref@mail.yahoo.com>, <1292577308.129803.1610195374883@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1610221340.h7q795xno08wksgs@webmail.sasktel.net> I think what is needed is someone to make up a transport/test jig to verify each belt and include a W&F plot vs an original belt. I think people would gladly pay a premium up to $40 (which is what premium belts sell for) for belts that are proven. Tested belts would give piece of mind and confidence that people with out test equipment would not have to redo the job or at least know that the problem is not the belt they have just installed. Just my 2 cents :) Cheers, Rainer S. (80stech)   On Sat, 9 Jan 2021 15:09:04 +0000, David Frow via Naktalk wrote:   If you are taking the time to change the belts on a deck it is worth doing it properly, all you need is a speed tape (ANT Audio for example sells them reasonably), or you can find someone that has a Dragon, Quartz DD Technics or something similar in good working order to record you a 3khz tape, this should be sufficient for speed setting on most decks and reasonable W+F measurements down to about 0.04-0.05% to check the deck is still working reasonably well.  Play the output into a PC and then use WFGui to check/set the speed - which is free. If you are changing capstan belts the speed will need adjusting.  Regards, David.   From: Naktalk on behalf of Kevin Fetner via Naktalk Sent: 09 January 2021 12:29 To: naktalk at lists.naks.com Subject: Re: [naktalk] Belt kits & pinch rollers   Thank you Perry;to take the time and post all that!   I wasn't asking anybody to give up the farm on what they do. If it takes an assortment of belts to test and repair original decks, that's very unfortunate and time consuming. What about ESL....are they still selling original belts or are we to assume they are too old now to be reliable?   I have no test equipment so trying in an assortment of belts to get a 'good sound' is just not going to be in the cards.    Kevin     ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Sun Jan 10 16:19:00 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Kevin Fetner via Naktalk) Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2021 15:19:00 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [naktalk] Belt kits & pinch rollers References: <819924505.361205.1610291940486.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <819924505.361205.1610291940486@mail.yahoo.com> I think this is an excellent idea. And yes, not looking for 'deals' when it comes to belt kits, but spec proven belts. I would be happy to pay $50 for a proven and tested kit. I've paid that much for Thorens TT belts in the past. I think what is needed is someone to make up a transport/test jig to verify each belt and include a W&F plot vs an original belt. I think people would gladly pay a premium up to $40 (which is what premium belts sell for) for belts that are proven. Tested belts would give piece of mind and confidence that people with out test equipment would not have to redo the job or at least know that the problem is not the belt they have just installed. Just my 2 cents :) Cheers, Rainer S. (80stech)   -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Sun Jan 10 17:05:56 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (perry via Naktalk) Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2021 11:05:56 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Belts & pinch rollers Message-ID: I don’t pretend to be any kind of final authority on all this. I am a (now, finally) retired Instrumentation engineer of 40 years. I’ve been restoring Naks for about 18 years, IIRC. The problem with pre testing them, is that a belt that works perfectly fine on a ZX-7 fails miserably on an RX-505. This was also true to an extent with the Marrs belts. But NOT with the original D4096. It makes sense that the elastic and recoil property of the rubber used are at play here. It is always the flutter component that drives up the number on the decks the new belts do not perform as well on ( but do sound just fine with, I might add). I need to pull out my other W&F meter that will divide flutter in to 3 different frequencies and determine what it is exactly. I suspect the cogging of the motor is causing coil/recoil vibrations detected as flutter. Pure special at this point. I have confirmed the different motors cause different reactions. Sent from Xfinity Connect App -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Mon Jan 11 14:15:54 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Peter Tanner via Naktalk) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2021 13:15:54 +0000 Subject: [naktalk] Belts & pinch rollers In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello Perry With all the tests you’ve done in your opinion what is the best belt finally for the 480’s and the 580 series. I have a 582 that runs on a Marrs belt I bought about 6 years ago and a 480Z still on its original one. Thanks Peter Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 10, 2021, at 5:09 PM, perry via Naktalk wrote: > > I don’t pretend to be any kind of final authority on all this. I am a (now, finally) retired Instrumentation engineer of 40 years. I’ve been restoring Naks for about 18 years, IIRC. The problem with pre testing them, is that a belt that works perfectly fine on a ZX-7 fails miserably on an RX-505. This was also true to an extent with the Marrs belts. But NOT with the original D4096. It makes sense that the elastic and recoil property of the rubber used are at play here. It is always the flutter component that drives up the number on the decks the new belts do not perform as well on ( but do sound just fine with, I might add). I need to pull out my other W&F meter that will divide flutter in to 3 different frequencies and determine what it is exactly. I suspect the cogging of the motor is causing coil/recoil vibrations detected as flutter. Pure special at this point. I have confirmed the different motors cause different reactions. > > Sent from Xfinity Connect App > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= From naktalk at lists.naks.com Mon Jan 11 16:08:37 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Kevin Fetner via Naktalk) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2021 15:08:37 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [naktalk] Belt kits & pinch rollers References: <542413766.664401.1610377717157.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <542413766.664401.1610377717157@mail.yahoo.com>  That's what I meant Perry;that some models will react differently to the belt kits than others. So testing belt kits for specific models, although time consuming, may be what is needed here. I only have a RX-505 and a 700ZXL  these days, so personally I would only be interested in kits for those two decks. Others of course, will have different requirements. Kevin I don’t pretend to be any kind of final authority on all this. I am a (now, finally) retired Instrumentation engineer of 40 years. I’ve been restoring Naks for about 18 years, IIRC. The problem with pre testing them, is that a belt that works perfectly fine on a ZX-7 fails miserably on an RX-505. This was also true to an extent with the Marrs belts. But NOT with the original D4096. It makes sense that the elastic and recoil property of the rubber used are at play here. It is always the flutter component that drives up the number on the decks the new belts do not perform as well on ( but do sound just fine with, I might add). I need to pull out my other W&F meter that will divide flutter in to 3 different frequencies and determine what it is exactly. I suspect the cogging of the motor is causing coil/recoil vibrations detected as flutter. Pure special at this point. I have confirmed the different motors cause different reactions. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Mon Jan 11 22:41:47 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Tom Brucker via Naktalk) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2021 15:41:47 -0600 Subject: [naktalk] Belt kits & pinch rollers In-Reply-To: References: <1292577308.129803.1610195374883.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1292577308.129803.1610195374883@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I like the idea of testing belts before shipping. I will finally be able to test the special PRB belts. They are $6 each, so even after testing they would be under $40. On Sat, Jan 9, 2021, 9:54 AM David Frow via Naktalk wrote: > If you are taking the time to change the belts on a deck it is worth doing > it properly, all you need is a speed tape (ANT Audio for example sells them > reasonably), or you can find someone that has a Dragon, Quartz DD Technics > or something similar in good working order to record you a 3khz tape, this > should be sufficient for speed setting on most decks and reasonable W+F > measurements down to about 0.04-0.05% to check the deck is still working > reasonably well. Play the output into a PC and then use WFGui to check/set > the speed - which is free. If you are changing capstan belts the speed will > need adjusting. Regards, David. > ------------------------------ > *From:* Naktalk on behalf of Kevin > Fetner via Naktalk > *Sent:* 09 January 2021 12:29 > *To:* naktalk at lists.naks.com > *Subject:* Re: [naktalk] Belt kits & pinch rollers > > Thank you Perry;to take the time and post all that! > > I wasn't asking anybody to give up the farm on what they do. If it takes > an assortment of belts to test and repair original decks, that's very > unfortunate and time consuming. What about ESL....are they still selling > original belts or are we to assume they are too old now to be reliable? > > I have no test equipment so trying in an assortment of belts to get a > 'good sound' is just not going to be in the cards. > > Kevin > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Mon Jan 11 22:46:23 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Tom Brucker via Naktalk) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2021 15:46:23 -0600 Subject: [naktalk] Belts & pinch rollers In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Perry, I cannot think of any reason one belt would give 2 results based on the model of the deck. Any guesses what is going on? The TapeHeads discussion about directionality seems promising given that Nakamichi marked their own belts. On Mon, Jan 11, 2021, 7:16 AM Peter Tanner via Naktalk < naktalk at lists.naks.com> wrote: > Hello Perry > > With all the tests you’ve done in your opinion what is the best belt > finally for the 480’s and the 580 series. I have a 582 that runs on a Marrs > belt I bought about 6 years ago and a 480Z still on its original one. > Thanks > > Peter > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Jan 10, 2021, at 5:09 PM, perry via Naktalk > wrote: > > > > I don’t pretend to be any kind of final authority on all this. I am a > (now, finally) retired Instrumentation engineer of 40 years. I’ve been > restoring Naks for about 18 years, IIRC. The problem with pre testing them, > is that a belt that works perfectly fine on a ZX-7 fails miserably on an > RX-505. This was also true to an extent with the Marrs belts. But NOT with > the original D4096. It makes sense that the elastic and recoil property of > the rubber used are at play here. It is always the flutter component that > drives up the number on the decks the new belts do not perform as well on ( > but do sound just fine with, I might add). I need to pull out my other W&F > meter that will divide flutter in to 3 different frequencies and determine > what it is exactly. I suspect the cogging of the motor is causing > coil/recoil vibrations detected as flutter. Pure special at this point. 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URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Mon Jan 11 23:05:22 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Ron Bell via Naktalk) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2021 17:05:22 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Dragon NAAC Clicking In-Reply-To: References: <124a01d6e60d$da01c240$8e0546c0$@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <1bbc01d6e865$dcda4000$968ec000$@googlemail.com> Thank you all for your suggestions. Where I stand. In forward direction unit works fine with minimal clicking; In the reverse direction clicking much worse and heads seem to be pushed so far the playback audio become deeply distorted to nonexistent. I have verified my manually turning the NAAC motor driving the blue belt that there is full travel in both directions. Belt is fine. I suspect the head mechanism may be issues with 40 year old lubricant. I have a full suite of electronic test equipment but no test tapes or Nak unique tools. I fear that if I disassemble the heads (azimuth part) I will not be able to correctly align it. Suggestions? Are there any shops that can help and not charge me an arm and a leg? Help! Thank Ron From: Ural Durusu Sent: Saturday, January 9, 2021 8:04 AM To: Ron Bell Subject: Re: [naktalk] Dragon NAAC Clicking Hi Ron, try to route your counter belt as in picture. If clicking on reverse playback disappears then it’s back tension due to loosen counter belt. So belt replacement may solve your problem. Good luck. Ural iPhone’umdan gönderildi Ron Bell via Naktalk > şunları yazdı (9 Oca 2021 01:30):  Good Evening, This is an update to a post from a few months back. Am resurrecting an old Dragon I have had since new. Have: * Replaced all belts. * Toughly cleaned the heads. On some tapes I hear the NAAC clicking, more so on reverse playback. Observations * The blue belt (NAAC motor to heads) visually looks OK. * Manually, turning motor wheel, I can move the NAAC to either end of travel, as verified by the alignment indicator on the motor assemble and watching the heads moved back and forth. * The heads are not at the limits of travel when I observe the clicking, they are not hitting the stops. * The alignment indicator seems to mostly be toward the left 2/3 (looking from the front) during playback. * The wheels are turning and I assume moving the heads while the clicking is occurring. (perhaps things are not moving as easily as they shuld? Questions: * Could this be a lubrication issue in the heads mechanism (unit was idle for 25 years), is there something I can lube without damaging the adjustments? * I have a full suite of electronic test gear, but no access to test tapes. Are there any adjustments I do? Otherwise the unit is working great. Thank you in advance. Ron ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Tue Jan 12 09:58:27 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (=?utf-8?B?TWFyY3VzIFJvc8Opbg==?= via Naktalk) Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2021 08:58:27 +0000 Subject: [naktalk] Dragon NAAC Clicking In-Reply-To: <1bbc01d6e865$dcda4000$968ec000$@googlemail.com> References: <124a01d6e60d$da01c240$8e0546c0$@googlemail.com> , <1bbc01d6e865$dcda4000$968ec000$@googlemail.com> Message-ID: I had a clicking noise on my Dragon also. It is now many years ago and the cure was described here on naktalk. In this case the pbm was that due to wear, the mechanical center of the NAAC is not correct. It is easily fixed with just a screwdriver. If I remember correctly, this is the way: Open the lid, play a cassette with ”OK” azimuth, f i a pre-recorded tape. Turn the azimuth setting för the pb head so that the pointer for the NAAC-mechanism moves to middle position. Then do the same in reverse and adjust in the same way. After some iterations choose a setting so that the pointer is as close as possible to the middle position in both directions. Now the NAAC will have the correct working range, and provided that the electronics is OK it will work fine. Hope this helps, Marcus. *************************************** Marcus Rosén, Drakenbergsgatan 3, 117 41 Stockholm, Sweden. Tel: + 46 8 661 70 63 Mobile: +46 707 25 23 68 *************************************** ________________________________ From: Naktalk on behalf of Ron Bell via Naktalk Sent: Monday, January 11, 2021 11:05:22 PM To: naktalk at lists.naks.com Subject: Re: [naktalk] Dragon NAAC Clicking Thank you all for your suggestions. Where I stand. In forward direction unit works fine with minimal clicking; In the reverse direction clicking much worse and heads seem to be pushed so far the playback audio become deeply distorted to nonexistent. I have verified my manually turning the NAAC motor driving the blue belt that there is full travel in both directions. Belt is fine. I suspect the head mechanism may be issues with 40 year old lubricant. I have a full suite of electronic test equipment but no test tapes or Nak unique tools. I fear that if I disassemble the heads (azimuth part) I will not be able to correctly align it. Suggestions? Are there any shops that can help and not charge me an arm and a leg? Help! Thank Ron From: Ural Durusu Sent: Saturday, January 9, 2021 8:04 AM To: Ron Bell Subject: Re: [naktalk] Dragon NAAC Clicking Hi Ron, try to route your counter belt as in picture. If clicking on reverse playback disappears then it’s back tension due to loosen counter belt. So belt replacement may solve your problem. Good luck. Ural iPhone’umdan gönderildi Ron Bell via Naktalk > şunları yazdı (9 Oca 2021 01:30):  Good Evening, This is an update to a post from a few months back. Am resurrecting an old Dragon I have had since new. Have: * Replaced all belts. * Toughly cleaned the heads. On some tapes I hear the NAAC clicking, more so on reverse playback. Observations * The blue belt (NAAC motor to heads) visually looks OK. * Manually, turning motor wheel, I can move the NAAC to either end of travel, as verified by the alignment indicator on the motor assemble and watching the heads moved back and forth. * The heads are not at the limits of travel when I observe the clicking, they are not hitting the stops. * The alignment indicator seems to mostly be toward the left 2/3 (looking from the front) during playback. * The wheels are turning and I assume moving the heads while the clicking is occurring. (perhaps things are not moving as easily as they shuld? Questions: * Could this be a lubrication issue in the heads mechanism (unit was idle for 25 years), is there something I can lube without damaging the adjustments? * I have a full suite of electronic test gear, but no access to test tapes. Are there any adjustments I do? Otherwise the unit is working great. Thank you in advance. Ron ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Thu Jan 14 21:29:02 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Richard L. Hess via Naktalk) Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2021 15:29:02 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Dragon NAAC Clicking In-Reply-To: References: <124a01d6e60d$da01c240$8e0546c0$@googlemail.com> <1bbc01d6e865$dcda4000$968ec000$@googlemail.com> Message-ID: I have noticed that in my cassette digitization business that the clicking occurs on some source tapes where the azimuth is too far out for the NAAC mechanism to control. I have modified several of my Dragons to use the NAAC motor for manual control via a modification of the Timer Record/Play switch (to switch between manual and auto--you don't need auto PB azimuth during timer record). This routes via a single wire change the motor hot side to the Gizmo connector (leaving ground and +/- as wired). Then a spring loaded centre off toggle switch sends, via a resistor (I forget the exact value at the moment) either positive or negative voltage to the NAAC motor. Anyway, after attempting to run the azimuth to one end or the other, I find I sometimes have to adjust the manual screw in the head assembly to move the azimuth farther (or use an MR-1). After use, just centre the azimuth motor (it does that on power up), then I disable automatic, and record a tone using the record head as reference to reset the azimuth close to centre. Cheers, Richard On 2021-01-12 3:58 a.m., Marcus Rosén via Naktalk wrote: > I had a clicking noise on my Dragon also. > It is now many years ago and the cure was described here on naktalk. > In this case the pbm was that due to wear, the mechanical center of > the NAAC is not correct. > It is easily fixed with just a screwdriver. > If I remember correctly, this is the way: > Open the lid, play a cassette with ”OK” azimuth, f i a pre-recorded tape. > Turn the azimuth setting för the pb head so that the pointer for the > NAAC-mechanism moves to middle position. > Then do the same in reverse and adjust in the same way. > After some iterations choose a setting so that the pointer is as close > as possible to the middle position in both directions. > Now the NAAC will have the correct working range, and provided that > the electronics is OK it will work fine. > > Hope this helps, Marcus. > > *************************************** > > Marcus Rosén, Drakenbergsgatan 3, > > 117 41 Stockholm, Sweden. > > Tel: + 46 8 661 70 63 > > Mobile: +46 707 25 23 68 > > *************************************** > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* Naktalk on behalf of Ron Bell > via Naktalk > *Sent:* Monday, January 11, 2021 11:05:22 PM > *To:* naktalk at lists.naks.com > *Subject:* Re: [naktalk] Dragon NAAC Clicking > > Thank you all for your suggestions. > > Where I stand. > > In forward direction unit works fine with minimal clicking; > > In the reverse direction clicking much worse and heads seem to be > pushed so far the playback audio become deeply distorted to nonexistent. > > I have verified my manually turning the NAAC motor driving the blue > belt that there is full travel in both directions.  Belt is fine. > > I suspect the head mechanism may be issues with 40 year old lubricant. > > I have a full suite of electronic test equipment but no test tapes or > Nak unique tools.  I fear that if I disassemble the heads (azimuth > part)  I will not be able to correctly align it. > > Suggestions?  Are there any shops that can help and not charge me an > arm and a leg?  Help! > > Thank > > Ron > > *From:* Ural Durusu > *Sent:* Saturday, January 9, 2021 8:04 AM > *To:* Ron Bell > *Subject:* Re: [naktalk] Dragon NAAC Clicking > > Hi Ron, try to route your counter belt as in picture. If clicking on > reverse playback disappears then it’s back tension due to loosen > counter belt. So belt replacement may solve your problem. > > Good luck. > > Ural > > iPhone’umdan gönderildi > > > > Ron Bell via Naktalk > şunları yazdı (9 Oca 2021 01:30): > >  > > Good Evening, > > This is an update to a post from a few months back. > > Am resurrecting an old Dragon I have had since new.  Have: > > * Replaced all belts. > * Toughly cleaned the heads. > > On some tapes I hear the NAAC clicking, more so on reverse playback. > > Observations > > * The blue belt (NAAC motor to heads) visually looks OK. > * Manually, turning motor wheel, I can  move the NAAC to either > end of travel, as verified by the alignment indicator on the > motor assemble and watching the heads moved back and forth. > * The heads are not at the limits of travel when I observe the > clicking, they are not hitting the stops. > * The alignment indicator seems to mostly be toward the left 2/3 >  (looking from the front) during playback. > * The wheels are turning and I assume moving the heads while the > clicking is occurring.  (perhaps things are not moving as > easily as they shuld? > > Questions: > > * Could this be a lubrication issue in the heads mechanism (unit > was idle for 25 years), is there something I can lube without > damaging the adjustments? > * I have a full suite of electronic test gear, but no access to > test tapes. Are there any adjustments I do? > > Otherwise the unit is working great. > > Thank you in advance. > > Ron > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= >          Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: > http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -- Richard L. Hess email: richard at richardhess.com Aurora, Ontario, Canada http://www.richardhess.com/ http://www.richardhess.com/tape/contact.htm Quality tape transfers -- even from hard-to-play tapes. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Fri Jan 15 04:07:53 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Tom Brucker via Naktalk) Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2021 21:07:53 -0600 Subject: [naktalk] Dragon NAAC Clicking In-Reply-To: References: <124a01d6e60d$da01c240$8e0546c0$@googlemail.com> <1bbc01d6e865$dcda4000$968ec000$@googlemail.com> Message-ID: Any time you hear clicking, make note of the treble content in the tape. If no treble is present, NAAC will search without finding correct azimuth. Since you have already changed play azimuth, it is far easier to play your tape and manually adjust the azimuth using your ears. On Thu, Jan 14, 2021, 2:30 PM Richard L. Hess via Naktalk < naktalk at lists.naks.com> wrote: > I have noticed that in my cassette digitization business that the clicking > occurs on some source tapes where the azimuth is too far out for the NAAC > mechanism to control. > > I have modified several of my Dragons to use the NAAC motor for manual > control via a modification of the Timer Record/Play switch (to switch > between manual and auto--you don't need auto PB azimuth during timer > record). This routes via a single wire change the motor hot side to the > Gizmo connector (leaving ground and +/- as wired). Then a spring loaded > centre off toggle switch sends, via a resistor (I forget the exact value at > the moment) either positive or negative voltage to the NAAC motor. > > Anyway, after attempting to run the azimuth to one end or the other, I > find I sometimes have to adjust the manual screw in the head assembly to > move the azimuth farther (or use an MR-1). After use, just centre the > azimuth motor (it does that on power up), then I disable automatic, and > record a tone using the record head as reference to reset the azimuth close > to centre. > > Cheers, > > Richard > > > On 2021-01-12 3:58 a.m., Marcus Rosén via Naktalk wrote: > > I had a clicking noise on my Dragon also. > It is now many years ago and the cure was described here on naktalk. > In this case the pbm was that due to wear, the mechanical center of the > NAAC is not correct. > It is easily fixed with just a screwdriver. > If I remember correctly, this is the way: > Open the lid, play a cassette with ”OK” azimuth, f i a pre-recorded tape. > Turn the azimuth setting för the pb head so that the pointer for the > NAAC-mechanism moves to middle position. > Then do the same in reverse and adjust in the same way. > After some iterations choose a setting so that the pointer is as close as > possible to the middle position in both directions. > Now the NAAC will have the correct working range, and provided that the > electronics is OK it will work fine. > > Hope this helps, Marcus. > > *************************************** > > Marcus Rosén, Drakenbergsgatan 3, > > 117 41 Stockholm, Sweden. > > Tel: + 46 8 661 70 63 > > Mobile: +46 707 25 23 68 > > *************************************** > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Naktalk > on behalf of Ron Bell via Naktalk > > *Sent:* Monday, January 11, 2021 11:05:22 PM > *To:* naktalk at lists.naks.com > > *Subject:* Re: [naktalk] Dragon NAAC Clicking > > > Thank you all for your suggestions. > > > > Where I stand. > > > > In forward direction unit works fine with minimal clicking; > > In the reverse direction clicking much worse and heads seem to be pushed > so far the playback audio become deeply distorted to nonexistent. > > > > I have verified my manually turning the NAAC motor driving the blue belt > that there is full travel in both directions. Belt is fine. > > > > I suspect the head mechanism may be issues with 40 year old lubricant. > > > > I have a full suite of electronic test equipment but no test tapes or Nak > unique tools. I fear that if I disassemble the heads (azimuth part) I > will not be able to correctly align it. > > > > Suggestions? Are there any shops that can help and not charge me an arm > and a leg? Help! > > > > Thank > > Ron > > > > > > > > *From:* Ural Durusu > > *Sent:* Saturday, January 9, 2021 8:04 AM > *To:* Ron Bell > *Subject:* Re: [naktalk] Dragon NAAC Clicking > > > > Hi Ron, try to route your counter belt as in picture. If clicking on > reverse playback disappears then it’s back tension due to loosen counter > belt. So belt replacement may solve your problem. > > > > Good luck. > > Ural > > > > > > iPhone’umdan gönderildi > > > > Ron Bell via Naktalk şunları yazdı (9 Oca 2021 > 01:30): > >  > > Good Evening, > > > > This is an update to a post from a few months back. > > > > Am resurrecting an old Dragon I have had since new. Have: > > - Replaced all belts. > - Toughly cleaned the heads. > > On some tapes I hear the NAAC clicking, more so on reverse playback. > > Observations > > - The blue belt (NAAC motor to heads) visually looks OK. > - Manually, turning motor wheel, I can move the NAAC to either end of > travel, as verified by the alignment indicator on the motor assemble and > watching the heads moved back and forth. > - The heads are not at the limits of travel when I observe the > clicking, they are not hitting the stops. > - The alignment indicator seems to mostly be toward the left 2/3 > (looking from the front) during playback. > - The wheels are turning and I assume moving the heads while the > clicking is occurring. (perhaps things are not moving as easily as they > shuld? > > > > Questions: > > - Could this be a lubrication issue in the heads mechanism (unit was > idle for 25 years), is there something I can lube without damaging the > adjustments? > - I have a full suite of electronic test gear, but no access to test > tapes. Are there any adjustments I do? > > > > Otherwise the unit is working great. > > > > Thank you in advance. > > > > Ron > > > > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > -- > Richard L. Hess email: richard at richardhess.com > Aurora, Ontario, Canada http://www.richardhess.com/http://www.richardhess.com/tape/contact.htm > Quality tape transfers -- even from hard-to-play tapes. > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Fri Jan 15 05:55:08 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Daniel Botelho via Naktalk) Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2021 23:55:08 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Dragon NAAC Clicking In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <2br68gh26kgrgiekruvu0qic.1610686508713@gmail.com> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Fri Jan 15 00:12:15 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (David Edwards via Naktalk) Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2021 23:12:15 +0000 Subject: [naktalk] 505 Cassette holder Reapir Message-ID: <55d95467-f5b6-f853-429d-54fe51882dd4@talktalk.net> Hi Everyone, The cassette holder on my 505 got some sticky residue on it and began struggling to spin round in the usual way. In fact it used to get stuck half-way round. I took the front tray apart and cleaned it up, but found that one of the plastic teeth had broken on the bottom of the cassette holder shaft and now it doesn't engage enough to start the spin. I now only play cassettes one way round like a normal deck in order not to strain anything else. Spares of that part are impossible to obtain, obviously, and I had wondered about plastic welding a new tooth!! I have no experience in this technique, so it is sort of the 'nuclear option'. Does  anyone in 'Nak-world', have any other repair ideas? 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Pax Domini Sit Semper Vobiscum Et Illegitimi Non Carborundum > On Jan 15, 2021, at 2:58 AM, David Edwards via Naktalk wrote: > >  > Hi Everyone, > > The cassette holder on my 505 got some sticky residue on it and began struggling to spin round in the usual way. > > In fact it used to get stuck half-way round. > > I took the front tray apart and cleaned it up, but found that one of the plastic teeth had broken on the bottom of the cassette holder shaft and now it doesn't engage enough to start the spin. > > I now only play cassettes one way round like a normal deck in order not to strain anything else. > > Spares of that part are impossible to obtain, obviously, and I had wondered about plastic welding a new tooth!! > > I have no experience in this technique, so it is sort of the 'nuclear option'. > > Does anyone in 'Nak-world', have any other repair ideas? Or any plastic welding ideas. Or any ideas at all. > > I'm a bit desperate. > > Many thanks, > > David Edwards > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Fri Jan 15 15:10:55 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Vesselin Uzunov via Naktalk) Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2021 09:10:55 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] 505 Cassette holder Reapir In-Reply-To: References: <55d95467-f5b6-f853-429d-54fe51882dd4@talktalk.net> Message-ID: <4395E84B-F0A2-4DC9-888B-72E72298F4F1@yahoo.com> I think the easiest way is to rebuild the tooth. I would use the epoxy putty from Harbor freight, and then I will recut the new tooth with a small file . One tooth is not big deal for the gear to work. Do not use acetone based or thermo glues/ welding. Good luck. Vesselin Uzunov Sent from my iPad > On Jan 15, 2021, at 7:46 AM, Les Morgan via Naktalk wrote: > > 3-D printing of new parts immediately comes to mind...but I have no idea on how to generate files without having factory dimensioned drawings of the parts. Anyone out there with access to those? > > Pax Domini Sit Semper Vobiscum > Et > Illegitimi Non Carborundum > >> On Jan 15, 2021, at 2:58 AM, David Edwards via Naktalk wrote: >> >>  >> Hi Everyone, >> >> The cassette holder on my 505 got some sticky residue on it and began struggling to spin round in the usual way. >> >> In fact it used to get stuck half-way round. >> >> I took the front tray apart and cleaned it up, but found that one of the plastic teeth had broken on the bottom of the cassette holder shaft and now it doesn't engage enough to start the spin. >> >> I now only play cassettes one way round like a normal deck in order not to strain anything else. >> >> Spares of that part are impossible to obtain, obviously, and I had wondered about plastic welding a new tooth!! >> >> I have no experience in this technique, so it is sort of the 'nuclear option'. >> >> Does anyone in 'Nak-world', have any other repair ideas? Or any plastic welding ideas. Or any ideas at all. >> >> I'm a bit desperate. >> >> Many thanks, >> >> David Edwards >> >> ========---------------------------------------------------------========= >> Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com >> ========---------------------------------------------------------========= >> Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist >> Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >> ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Fri Jan 15 18:10:11 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Les Morgan via Naktalk) Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2021 12:10:11 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] 505 Cassette holder Repair In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <90CD3B57-4BA3-45C1-8162-85B09F521CF9@twc.com> If you go the metal pin route, try to use two spaced at quarterpoints to avoid a moment (torque try to spin around the one pin. Loading of the tooth face is likely NOT uniform. Pax Domini Sit Semper Vobiscum Et Illegitimi Non Carborundum > On Jan 15, 2021, at 11:58 AM, David Edwards via Naktalk wrote: > >  > Thanks everyone who replied. > > Epoxy putty sounds like a good way to go, provided I can find the right one for the job. I don't know what type of plastic the cassette holder is made of, but epoxy and plastic can be an uneasy partnership. > > Sadly the tooth which is gone is the initial one which starts the spin, and so has to take the starting toque from the gear wheel, so it does have to be strong. Might try a small metal pin under the putty to take some of the force. > > Thanks again to all who replied. > > David > > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Fri Jan 15 18:13:10 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (via Naktalk) Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2021 17:13:10 -0000 Subject: [naktalk] 505 Cassette holder Repair In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <002201d6eb61$b3bab0c0$1b301240$@sky.com> As long as it isn’t a nylon, it’ll be injection moulded styrene, in which case Milliput https://www.milliput.com/ will do the job. I first used Milliput in the early 1970’s on plastic scale models and have used it extensively on other plastic applications since then. Rob From: Naktalk On Behalf Of David Edwards via Naktalk Sent: 15 January 2021 15:19 To: Naktalk Subject: Re: [naktalk] 505 Cassette holder Repair Thanks everyone who replied. Epoxy putty sounds like a good way to go, provided I can find the right one for the job. I don't know what type of plastic the cassette holder is made of, but epoxy and plastic can be an uneasy partnership. Sadly the tooth which is gone is the initial one which starts the spin, and so has to take the starting toque from the gear wheel, so it does have to be strong. Might try a small metal pin under the putty to take some of the force. Thanks again to all who replied. David -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Fri Jan 15 19:36:50 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Vesselin Uzunov via Naktalk) Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2021 13:36:50 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] 505 Cassette holder Repair In-Reply-To: <90CD3B57-4BA3-45C1-8162-85B09F521CF9@twc.com> References: <90CD3B57-4BA3-45C1-8162-85B09F521CF9@twc.com> Message-ID: If this is the first tooth of the gear the squared metal pin is a good idea. Vesselin. Sent from my iPad > On Jan 15, 2021, at 12:10 PM, Les Morgan via Naktalk wrote: > > If you go the metal pin route, try to use two spaced at quarterpoints to avoid a moment (torque try to spin around the one pin. Loading of the tooth face is likely NOT uniform. > > Pax Domini Sit Semper Vobiscum > Et > Illegitimi Non Carborundum > >> On Jan 15, 2021, at 11:58 AM, David Edwards via Naktalk wrote: >> >>  >> Thanks everyone who replied. >> >> Epoxy putty sounds like a good way to go, provided I can find the right one for the job. I don't know what type of plastic the cassette holder is made of, but epoxy and plastic can be an uneasy partnership. >> >> Sadly the tooth which is gone is the initial one which starts the spin, and so has to take the starting toque from the gear wheel, so it does have to be strong. Might try a small metal pin under the putty to take some of the force. >> >> Thanks again to all who replied. >> >> David >> >> >> >> ========---------------------------------------------------------========= >> Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com >> ========---------------------------------------------------------========= >> Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist >> Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >> ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Sat Jan 16 14:50:07 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (perry via Naktalk) Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2021 08:50:07 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Dragon NAAC Message-ID: <78cc7e35-2c85-4f4d-98e7-58a9cc8a376c@Perrys-iphone> I assume you have tried adjusting the manual azimuth screw gear on the head block to stop the clicking by countering the direction of the swing. That said, obviously there should be no clicking on the majority of tapes. Adjustment of the azimuth gear is a diagnostic attempt, not a cure. There is an underlying reason the deck worked fine for years and then starts acting up. If deck received regular use and then this happened, lubricant is not usually the issue. If it sat for a few years, then all bets are off. If you observe the NAAC indicator while playing a good tape in forward and then reverse, and then flip the tape and play again in both directions, you SHOULD consistently see the forward always play to one side of the center of the indicator and reverse, roughly equally distant in the other direction. The best tapes on a properly working Dragon show almost no movement in forward or reverse when settled down. If every tape you try always shows extreme movement, then the deck needs service by someone with the right tools and experience. It is extremely highly unlikely squirting some lubricant in the right place will fix it. After 35 years, if it was that easy, the answer would be everywhere. There are literally 10 different things off the top of my head that can cause these issues. Way too many to get in to here. Working Dragons in nice condition that just basically work, but are unserviced, can sell for $1500+ and serviced by a known entity $2000+ today. I have never worked on a tape deck that was 35 years old that didn’t benefit substantially from a real service, especially Dragons. You don’t say where you are located, so I can not offer a tech suggestion. If in the US, Willy is on the west coast and I am on the east coast (Virginia). There are a few others as well, but I am not aware of their Dragon experience, and calibration gauge/tape accessibilities. ESL is, of course the definition of an arm & a leg in cost. I would also need to know the approximate serial number. I do not work on Dragons with serial numbers under 4000 without caveats. They have too many factory modifications and will always be more expensive to service correctly. My email is perry.nak at comcast.net Sent from Xfinity Connect App -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Sun Jan 17 18:57:45 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Jarmo Latva-Aijo via Naktalk) Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2021 19:57:45 +0200 Subject: [naktalk] Nakamichi ZX-9 do not play, belts ok, counter shows 0000 all the time Message-ID: Greetings from Finland, sorry my english.... Bought Nakamichi ZX-9 with troubles. With or without cassette it stops within 1-2 second (I hear sound from tape) when press play, rew or ff. Head block rises, motors ok and all belts are good and checked. COUNTER is static, shows 0000 all the time... maybe that is the problem and some autostop mechanism do not let the deck start. How to force deck to play even if the counter sensor lamp is broken (how to check that, where the spare part if broken) or even without counter belt, like to check if the deck has more troubles that. Thanks Sincerely -Latvis From naktalk at lists.naks.com Sun Jan 17 19:57:52 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Berndt-Inge Petersson via Naktalk) Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2021 18:57:52 +0000 Subject: [naktalk] Nakamichi ZX-9 do not play, belts ok, counter shows 0000 all the time In-Reply-To: <20210117175803.E57B02214D@mail.zxe.be> References: <20210117175803.E57B02214D@mail.zxe.be> Message-ID: Hi I don't have a ZX-9 but a 480Z. I think they have the same mechanism. I had a similar problem and it was a small lamp at the Shut-Off PCB that was faulty. Soldered in a similar and that solved the problem. Download a Service Manual from HifiEngine to see was data the lamp should have. I got my replacement lamp from a local electronics store. Berndt-Inge in Göteborg, Sweden! -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- Från: Naktalk För Jarmo Latva-Aijo via Naktalk Skickat: den 17 januari 2021 18:58 Till: naktalk at lists.naks.com Ämne: [naktalk] Nakamichi ZX-9 do not play, belts ok, counter shows 0000 all the time Greetings from Finland, sorry my english.... Bought Nakamichi ZX-9 with troubles. With or without cassette it stops within 1-2 second (I hear sound from tape) when press play, rew or ff. Head block rises, motors ok and all belts are good and checked. COUNTER is static, shows 0000 all the time... maybe that is the problem and some autostop mechanism do not let the deck start. How to force deck to play even if the counter sensor lamp is broken (how to check that, where the spare part if broken) or even without counter belt, like to check if the deck has more troubles that. Thanks Sincerely -Latvis ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= From naktalk at lists.naks.com Sun Jan 17 20:26:06 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Les Morgan via Naktalk) Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2021 14:26:06 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Nakamichi ZX-9 do not play, belts ok, counter shows 0000 all the time In-Reply-To: <20210117175803.E57B02214D@mail.zxe.be> References: <20210117175803.E57B02214D@mail.zxe.be> Message-ID: <92ABB94E-9716-4B5B-91F7-37151ED46777@twc.com> I can not help you with the technical questions, but I CAN tell you there is no need for apology for your command of English language! I understood every thought you communicated. I can not begin to communicate in Swedish or Finnish so I should be the one to apologize, yes? 😁 Pax Domini Sit Semper Vobiscum Et Illegitimi Non Carborundum > On Jan 17, 2021, at 2:16 PM, Jarmo Latva-Aijo via Naktalk wrote: > > Greetings from Finland, sorry my english.... > > Bought Nakamichi ZX-9 with troubles. With or without cassette it stops within 1-2 second (I hear sound from tape) when press play, rew or ff. Head block rises, motors ok and all belts are good and checked. COUNTER is static, shows 0000 all the time... maybe that is the problem and some autostop mechanism do not let the deck start. How to force deck to play even if the counter sensor lamp is broken (how to check that, where the spare part if broken) or even without counter belt, like to check if the deck has more troubles that. Thanks > > Sincerely > > -Latvis > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Sun Jan 17 20:37:17 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Daniel Botelho via Naktalk) Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2021 14:37:17 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Nakamichi ZX-9 do not play, belts ok, counter shows 0000 all the time In-Reply-To: <92ABB94E-9716-4B5B-91F7-37151ED46777@twc.com> Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Sun Jan 17 21:30:28 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Ali Hingoro via Naktalk) Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2021 15:30:28 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Nakamichi ZX-9 do not play, belts ok, counter shows 0000 all the time In-Reply-To: References: <92ABB94E-9716-4B5B-91F7-37151ED46777@twc.com> Message-ID: Hi in Finland, there is 14v minature bulb I think it called size T1 see if lights you will have to take off the black front panel to see it it’s located below the tape counter there is small black wheel with holes which are aperture from a photo transistor when this wheel moves rapidly it allows the light from the dim bulb mentioned above to fall on the photo transistor which the circuit sense that tape is moving , if this wheel does not move the light won’t fall the photo transistor and tape will stop with couple of second as the circuit causes it to stop sensing either the tape is not moving or had come to end , there is addition small thin belt not visible located behind the counter which if loose will also stop the tape , if the element in light bulb mentioned above has broken due to heat and age it will not light up no light falling on photo transistor even if the main counter belt is ok , also clean the small square 2 windows that has aperture or opening if the photo transistor has dirt on it but is otherwise good this will Also stop the tape! Hope following the advice above your NAKAMICHI zx 9 will start playing again it’s one of the best NAKAMICHI cassette deck ever made , it has the classic NAKAMICHI transport . Also I just remembered there is a small rubber idler tire whose rubber wear or get hardened due to age if this has happened it will not move the reel hubs this will also stop the tape immediately . Get a zx-9 belt kit at eBay for about $21 usd this will have all belts and rubber idler in it , if you are able to install these your deck transport will work like new . Hope this helps you! Best regards! from Ali in USA , I have the good fortune to own nearly all models of NAKAMICHI ever made including ZX 7 and 9 , DRAGON, CR 7 A , RX 505, BX 300, 700ZXE, 700ZXL and even the Mightly and ultimate 1000ZXL !:) On Sun, Jan 17, 2021 at 2:37 PM Daniel Botelho via Naktalk < naktalk at lists.naks.com> wrote: > I'm not familiar with that deck at all, BUT there is a timing light on the > nak dragon that sits just on the top left side of the mechanism...it's > soldered to a board with sensor that sees the pulses as the reel tables > spins, so see if you see anything like that. > > Should be a relatively easy replacement. > > > > *From:* naktalk at lists.naks.com > *Sent:* January 17, 2021 2:26 p.m. > *To:* latvis at rockdata.org; naktalk at lists.naks.com > *Reply to:* penman at twc.com; naktalk at lists.naks.com > *Subject:* Re: [naktalk] Nakamichi ZX-9 do not play, belts ok, counter > shows 0000 all the time > > I can not help you with the technical questions, but I CAN tell you there > is no need for apology for your command of English language! I understood > every thought you communicated. I can not begin to communicate in Swedish > or Finnish so I should be the one to apologize, yes? 😁 > > *Pax Domini Sit Semper Vobiscum* > *Et* > *Illegitimi Non Carborundum* > > On Jan 17, 2021, at 2:16 PM, Jarmo Latva-Aijo via Naktalk < > naktalk at lists.naks.com> wrote: > > Greetings from Finland, sorry my english.... > > Bought Nakamichi ZX-9 with troubles. With or without cassette it stops > within 1-2 second (I hear sound from tape) when press play, rew or ff. Head > block rises, motors ok and all belts are good and checked. COUNTER is > static, shows 0000 all the time... maybe that is the problem and some > autostop mechanism do not let the deck start. How to force deck to play > even if the counter sensor lamp is broken (how to check that, where the > spare part if broken) or even without counter belt, like to check if the > deck has more troubles that. Thanks > > Sincerely > > -Latvis > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Sun Jan 17 21:34:58 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Christian Johnson via Naktalk) Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2021 20:34:58 +0000 Subject: [naktalk] Nakamichi ZX-9 do not play, belts ok, counter shows 0000 all the time In-Reply-To: References: <92ABB94E-9716-4B5B-91F7-37151ED46777@twc.com> , Message-ID: Do you have the 550, it's the only Tape Deck I have? I recently got it resorted and I swear its become my favorite device to record on. Chris ________________________________ From: Naktalk on behalf of Ali Hingoro via Naktalk Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2021 2:30 PM To: Daniel Botelho ; Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks Subject: Re: [naktalk] Nakamichi ZX-9 do not play, belts ok, counter shows 0000 all the time Hi in Finland, there is 14v minature bulb I think it called size T1 see if lights you will have to take off the black front panel to see it it’s located below the tape counter there is small black wheel with holes which are aperture from a photo transistor when this wheel moves rapidly it allows the light from the dim bulb mentioned above to fall on the photo transistor which the circuit sense that tape is moving , if this wheel does not move the light won’t fall the photo transistor and tape will stop with couple of second as the circuit causes it to stop sensing either the tape is not moving or had come to end , there is addition small thin belt not visible located behind the counter which if loose will also stop the tape , if the element in light bulb mentioned above has broken due to heat and age it will not light up no light falling on photo transistor even if the main counter belt is ok , also clean the small square 2 windows that has aperture or opening if the photo transistor has dirt on it but is otherwise good this will Also stop the tape! Hope following the advice above your NAKAMICHI zx 9 will start playing again it’s one of the best NAKAMICHI cassette deck ever made , it has the classic NAKAMICHI transport . Also I just remembered there is a small rubber idler tire whose rubber wear or get hardened due to age if this has happened it will not move the reel hubs this will also stop the tape immediately . Get a zx-9 belt kit at eBay for about $21 usd this will have all belts and rubber idler in it , if you are able to install these your deck transport will work like new . Hope this helps you! Best regards! from Ali in USA , I have the good fortune to own nearly all models of NAKAMICHI ever made including ZX 7 and 9 , DRAGON, CR 7 A , RX 505, BX 300, 700ZXE, 700ZXL and even the Mightly and ultimate 1000ZXL !:) On Sun, Jan 17, 2021 at 2:37 PM Daniel Botelho via Naktalk > wrote: I'm not familiar with that deck at all, BUT there is a timing light on the nak dragon that sits just on the top left side of the mechanism...it's soldered to a board with sensor that sees the pulses as the reel tables spins, so see if you see anything like that. Should be a relatively easy replacement. From: naktalk at lists.naks.com Sent: January 17, 2021 2:26 p.m. To: latvis at rockdata.org; naktalk at lists.naks.com Reply to: penman at twc.com; naktalk at lists.naks.com Subject: Re: [naktalk] Nakamichi ZX-9 do not play, belts ok, counter shows 0000 all the time I can not help you with the technical questions, but I CAN tell you there is no need for apology for your command of English language! I understood every thought you communicated. I can not begin to communicate in Swedish or Finnish so I should be the one to apologize, yes? 😁 Pax Domini Sit Semper Vobiscum Et Illegitimi Non Carborundum On Jan 17, 2021, at 2:16 PM, Jarmo Latva-Aijo via Naktalk > wrote: Greetings from Finland, sorry my english.... Bought Nakamichi ZX-9 with troubles. With or without cassette it stops within 1-2 second (I hear sound from tape) when press play, rew or ff. Head block rises, motors ok and all belts are good and checked. COUNTER is static, shows 0000 all the time... maybe that is the problem and some autostop mechanism do not let the deck start. How to force deck to play even if the counter sensor lamp is broken (how to check that, where the spare part if broken) or even without counter belt, like to check if the deck has more troubles that. 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URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Sun Jan 17 22:08:31 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Ali Hingoro via Naktalk) Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2021 16:08:31 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Nakamichi ZX-9 do not play, belts ok, counter shows 0000 all the time In-Reply-To: References: <92ABB94E-9716-4B5B-91F7-37151ED46777@twc.com> Message-ID: Hi again, I just remembered and forgot if the digital counter does not move from 0000 The main cause is the worn out counter belt or the additional small thin rubber belt behind the counter and one more thing also see that the small belt in the cam control driven by a small electric motor that moves the big cream color cam gear wheel is in good shape I.e tight not slipping, if it has become bad and is loose due to age it will be slipping and will not move the big cream colored cam gear wheel all the way to correct position for play , fast forward , record , pause and rewind and stop position , this will also stop the cassette from playing, fast forward or rewind , if in stop position the cam gear wheel does not cause the head assembly to go all the way down , the tape eject lever will not open the tape compartment you will have to help the this cam gear with your hand so it moves when you can see a cam lever connected to it has moved up to it max up position. , also clean the old grease on the came lever connected to the cam gear, the belt kit for ZX 9 I mentioned in my earlier message will have the new small belt for cam control wheel , hope all this info helps you!:) with best regards! Ali On Sun, Jan 17, 2021 at 3:30 PM Ali Hingoro wrote: > Hi in Finland, there is 14v minature bulb I think it called size T1 see if > lights you will have to take off the black front panel to see it it’s > located below the tape counter there is small black wheel with holes which > are aperture from a photo transistor when this wheel moves rapidly it > allows the light from the dim bulb mentioned above to fall on the photo > transistor which the circuit sense that tape is moving , if this wheel does > not move the light won’t fall the photo transistor and tape will stop with > couple of second as the circuit causes it to stop sensing either the tape > is not moving or had come to end , there is addition small thin belt not > visible located behind the counter which if loose will also stop the tape , > if the element in light bulb mentioned above has broken due to heat and > age it will not light up no light falling on photo transistor even if the > main counter belt is ok , also clean the small square 2 windows that has > aperture or opening if the photo transistor has dirt on it but is otherwise > good this will Also stop the tape! Hope following the advice above your > NAKAMICHI zx 9 will start playing again it’s one of the best NAKAMICHI > cassette deck ever made , it has the classic NAKAMICHI transport . Also I > just remembered there is a small rubber idler tire whose rubber wear or get > hardened due to age if this has happened it will not move the reel hubs > this will also stop the tape immediately . Get a zx-9 belt kit at eBay for > about $21 usd this will have all belts and rubber idler in it , if you are > able to install these your deck transport will work like new . Hope this > helps you! Best regards! from Ali in USA , I have the good fortune to own > nearly all models of NAKAMICHI ever made including ZX 7 and 9 , DRAGON, CR > 7 A , RX 505, BX 300, 700ZXE, 700ZXL and even the Mightly and ultimate > 1000ZXL !:) > > On Sun, Jan 17, 2021 at 2:37 PM Daniel Botelho via Naktalk < > naktalk at lists.naks.com> wrote: > >> I'm not familiar with that deck at all, BUT there is a timing light on >> the nak dragon that sits just on the top left side of the mechanism...it's >> soldered to a board with sensor that sees the pulses as the reel tables >> spins, so see if you see anything like that. >> >> Should be a relatively easy replacement. >> >> >> >> *From:* naktalk at lists.naks.com >> *Sent:* January 17, 2021 2:26 p.m. >> *To:* latvis at rockdata.org; naktalk at lists.naks.com >> *Reply to:* penman at twc.com; naktalk at lists.naks.com >> *Subject:* Re: [naktalk] Nakamichi ZX-9 do not play, belts ok, counter >> shows 0000 all the time >> >> I can not help you with the technical questions, but I CAN tell you there >> is no need for apology for your command of English language! I understood >> every thought you communicated. I can not begin to communicate in Swedish >> or Finnish so I should be the one to apologize, yes? 😁 >> >> *Pax Domini Sit Semper Vobiscum* >> *Et* >> *Illegitimi Non Carborundum* >> >> On Jan 17, 2021, at 2:16 PM, Jarmo Latva-Aijo via Naktalk < >> naktalk at lists.naks.com> wrote: >> >> Greetings from Finland, sorry my english.... >> >> Bought Nakamichi ZX-9 with troubles. With or without cassette it stops >> within 1-2 second (I hear sound from tape) when press play, rew or ff. Head >> block rises, motors ok and all belts are good and checked. COUNTER is >> static, shows 0000 all the time... maybe that is the problem and some >> autostop mechanism do not let the deck start. How to force deck to play >> even if the counter sensor lamp is broken (how to check that, where the >> spare part if broken) or even without counter belt, like to check if the >> deck has more troubles that. Thanks >> >> Sincerely >> >> -Latvis >> >> ========---------------------------------------------------------========= >> Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com >> ========---------------------------------------------------------========= >> Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist >> Maintain your account here: >> http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >> ========---------------------------------------------------------========= >> >> ========---------------------------------------------------------========= >> Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com >> ========---------------------------------------------------------========= >> Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist >> Maintain your account here: >> http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >> ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Sun Jan 17 23:09:52 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Jarmo Latva-Aijo via Naktalk) Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2021 00:09:52 +0200 Subject: [naktalk] Nakamichi ZX-9 do not play, belts ok, counter shows 0000 all the time In-Reply-To: References: <92ABB94E-9716-4B5B-91F7-37151ED46777@twc.com> Message-ID: Thanks for the advices. The counter belt and another belts & idler are ok. No slipping. Counter still shows 0000 while everyhing rotates 1-2 sec until stops ... that tiny light bulb in auto-shut mechanics... should I see the light? I cannot see any light in it, maybe its broken. No dirt there. If any similar 14v bulb will work I'll try to find one. -L At 23:08 17.1.2021, you wrote: >Hi again,  I just remembered  and forgot if >the digital counter does not move from 0000 The >main cause is the worn out counter belt or the >additional small thin rubber belt behind the >counter and  one more thing also see that the  >small belt in the cam control  driven  by a >small  electric motor that moves the big cream >color cam gear wheel is in good shape I.e tight >not slipping,  if it has become bad  and is >loose due to age  it will be slipping and will >not move the big cream colored cam  gear wheel >all the way to correct position for play , fast >forward , record , pause and rewind and stop >position   , this will also stop the cassette >from playing,  fast forward or rewind  , if in >stop position the cam gear wheel does not cause >the head assembly to go all the way down , the >tape eject lever will not open the tape >compartment you will have to help the this cam >gear with your hand so it moves when you can see >a cam lever connected to it has moved up to it >max up position.  , also clean the old grease >on the came lever connected to the cam gear, the >belt kit for ZX 9 I mentioned in my earlier >message will have the new small belt for cam >control wheel , hope all this info helps you!:) with best regards! Ali > >On Sun, Jan 17, 2021 at 3:30 PM Ali Hingoro ><salihingoro at gmail.com> wrote: >Hi in Finland, there is 14v minature bulb I >think it called size T1 see if lights you will >have to take off the black front panel to see it >it’s located below the tape counter there is >small black wheel with holes which are aperture >from a photo transistor when this wheel moves >rapidly it allows the light from the dim bulb >mentioned above to fall on the photo transistor >which the circuit sense that tape is moving , if >this wheel does not move the light won’t fall >the photo transistor and tape will stop with >couple of second as the circuit causes it to >stop sensing either the tape is not moving or >had come to end , there is addition small thin >belt not visible located behind the counter >which if loose will also stop the tape , if the >element in  light bulb mentioned above has >broken due to heat and age it will not light up >no light falling on photo transistor even if the >main counter belt is ok , also clean the small >square 2  windows that has aperture or opening >if the photo transistor has dirt on it but is >otherwise good this will Also stop the tape! >Hope following the advice above your NAKAMICHI >zx 9 will start playing again it’s one of the >best NAKAMICHI cassette deck ever made , it has >the classic NAKAMICHI transport . Also I just >remembered there is a small rubber idler tire >whose rubber wear or get hardened due to age if >this has happened it will not move the reel hubs >this will also stop the tape immediately . Get a >zx-9 belt kit at eBay for about $21 usd this >will have all belts and rubber idler in it , if >you are able to install these your deck >transport will work like new . Hope this helps >you! Best regards! from Ali in USA , I have the >good fortune to own nearly all models of >NAKAMICHI ever made including ZX 7 and 9 , >DRAGON, CR 7 A , RX 505, BX 300, 700ZXE, 700ZXL >and even the Mightly and ultimate 1000ZXL !:) > >On Sun, Jan 17, 2021 at 2:37 PM Daniel Botelho >via Naktalk <naktalk at lists.naks.com> wrote: >I'm not familiar with that deck at all, BUT >there is a timing light on the nak dragon that >sits just on the top left side of the >mechanism...it's soldered to a board with sensor >that sees the pulses as the reel tables spins, >so see if you see anything like that. > >Should be a relatively easy replacement. > > > >From: naktalk at lists.naks.com >Sent: January 17, 2021 2:26 p.m. >To: >latvis at rockdata.org; >naktalk at lists.naks.com >Reply to: penman at twc.com; >naktalk at lists.naks.com >Subject: Re: [naktalk] Nakamichi ZX-9 do not >play, belts ok, counter shows 0000 all the time > >I can not help you with the technical questions, >but I CAN tell you there is no need for apology >for your command of English language! I >understood every thought you communicated. I >can not begin to communicate in Swedish or >Finnish so I should be the one to apologize, yes? 😁 > >Pax Domini Sit Semper Vobiscum >Et >Illegitimi Non Carborundum > >>On Jan 17, 2021, at 2:16 PM, Jarmo Latva-Aijo >>via Naktalk <naktalk at lists.naks.com> wrote: >> >>Greetings from Finland, sorry my english.... >> >>Bought Nakamichi ZX-9 with troubles. With or >>without cassette it stops within 1-2 second (I >>hear sound from tape) when press play, rew or >>ff. Head block rises, motors ok and all belts >>are good and checked. COUNTER is static, >>shows 0000 all the time... maybe that is the >>problem and some autostop mechanism do not let >>the deck start. How to force deck to play even >>if the counter sensor lamp is broken (how to >>check that, where the spare part if broken) or >>even without counter belt, like to check if the >>deck has more troubles that. Thanks >> >>Sincerely >> >>-Latvis >> >>========---------------------------------------------------------========= >>        Also check out the wiki! >>http://wiki.naks.com >>========---------------------------------------------------------========= >>                      >>Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist >>Maintain your account here: >>http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >>========---------------------------------------------------------========= >========---------------------------------------------------------========= >     Also check out the wiki! >http://wiki.naks.com >========---------------------------------------------------------========= >            >Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist >Maintain your account here: >http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > >========---------------------------------------------------------========= >Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com >========---------------------------------------------------------========= >Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your >account here: >http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >========---------------------------------------------------------========= From naktalk at lists.naks.com Tue Jan 19 16:56:38 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (via Naktalk) Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2021 15:56:38 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [naktalk] 481 bias adjust In-Reply-To: References: <92ABB94E-9716-4B5B-91F7-37151ED46777@twc.com> Message-ID: <1170632443.2107438.1611071798366@mail.yahoo.com> This 481 played good but didn’t recordgood , playback sound wasn’t good at all. I think I have it close now but Ican’t check the bias voltage for each tape type.  The test points (perSM)102,202  show the output . I have my  scope connected to them andAC millivolt meters on the outputs and they both seems to display the output .I cansee the(tape type) bias trimmers effect the 400Hz test signal on my scope but Idon’t know what the bias voltage is? With 15khz(-20db) test signal you can’tadjust anything ? SM states  the bias as 3 mV per tape type. I’ve beendoing all the tests with the deck in record mode. This has been an on/offproject for sometime now and its time to clean up these loose ends . The unitplays well new rubber and has been recapped . Any suggestions ? thanks   | | -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Sun Jan 24 14:53:41 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (martin ferreira via Naktalk) Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2021 13:53:41 +0000 Subject: [naktalk] Hot Dragon - 2 In-Reply-To: <293c5455-d78a-5c33-5ef2-434b340c3c4b@talktalk.net> References: <293c5455-d78a-5c33-5ef2-434b340c3c4b@talktalk.net> Message-ID: Mine has a faint smell when up close especially from the cassette well when open.. the control panel less so. Sometimes I leave the cassette well open or remove the cover to "air it out" Martin Ferreira ________________________________ From: Naktalk on behalf of David Edwards via Naktalk Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2021 12:46 PM To: Naktalk Subject: [naktalk] Hot Dragon - 2 Hi All, After my 'hot smelly Dragon' post a month ago, where it was kindly suggested by Rainer, that after not being used much, there might be a hot smell coming from the deck, I took the offered advice and have been playing it for hours on end. Much better. Hardly any smell now, except when I put my nose up close to the control panel. However, it does run noticeably warm. In fact, when I think about it, it always has run warm, over all the years of my ownership. So, my question is: Do all Dragons run warm? (Maybe that's why they're called Dragons! - Just a thought). Many thanks, David -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Tue Jan 26 17:21:25 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (John Gipps via Naktalk) Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2021 02:21:25 +1000 Subject: [naktalk] 480Z doesn't erase References: <009301d6f3ff$4e3a1e10$eaae5a30$.ref@aol.com> Message-ID: <009301d6f3ff$4e3a1e10$eaae5a30$@aol.com> Message: 1 Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2021 18:06:16 +0000 From: Peter Tanner via Naktalk To: "naktalk at lists.naks.com" Subject: [naktalk] 480Z doesn't erase Hello, 480Z stopped erasing. The two caps in the bias oscillator were changed a while ago. When I opened the bottom cover there was a kind of metal coil shield sitting loose on the cover. Looks like it was glued on and the glue may have gone dry so it fell off. I put it back on to where it fell off from and held it on with a tape but no difference. All connections and soldering seem okay. Playback is fine. Any reason why it stopped erasing? Thanks Peter Hi Peter You haven't commented on record performance. If your bias oscillator is working correctly, then a defective erase head is possible. Erase head could be open circuit, or have shorted turns, in which case you would need to replace it. It's possible your erase head is fine but isn’t contacting the tape. Check the head height and track alignment of the erase head if you can, and make sure it's clean. If the erase head is ok, then it comes down to the bias oscillator. Check its output level and frequency. If the bias oscillator is defective, then as well as no erase, it should either be recording badly, or not recording at all. And I almost forgot. The erase head has a cable and connector. So make sure it's plugged in to the bias oscillator, and check the connections at the bias oscillator end and at the erase head end. Measure its resistance at the connector to the bias oscillator - it should measure about 1.3 Ohms at the socket. Cheers John From naktalk at lists.naks.com Wed Jan 27 17:55:59 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Peter Tanner via Naktalk) Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2021 16:55:59 +0000 Subject: [naktalk] 480Z doesn't erase In-Reply-To: <009301d6f3ff$4e3a1e10$eaae5a30$@aol.com> References: <009301d6f3ff$4e3a1e10$eaae5a30$.ref@aol.com>, <009301d6f3ff$4e3a1e10$eaae5a30$@aol.com> Message-ID: Hello John, You are right, I forgot to check the record performance. I've checked it now. There isn't any. The meters or actually the LED indicators show the exact input but there is nothing recorded on the tape. Some crackles. The record/playback switch seems to be okay; I've sprayed it with Deoxit. Everything works in playback mode and the sound is good. The erase head connector has about 1.3 ohm difference between record/pause or play and stop. The head height and connections seem to be good. I'm not sure how to measure the bias oscillator output level. Some connector points have DC voltage on them and others have nothing. Thanks for the help Peter ________________________________ From: John Gipps Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2021 8:21 AM To: naktalk at lists.naks.com ; naktalk-request at lists.naks.com Cc: 'Peter Tanner' ; JohnGipps at aol.com Subject: [naktalk] 480Z doesn't erase Message: 1 Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2021 18:06:16 +0000 From: Peter Tanner via Naktalk To: "naktalk at lists.naks.com" Subject: [naktalk] 480Z doesn't erase Hello, 480Z stopped erasing. The two caps in the bias oscillator were changed a while ago. When I opened the bottom cover there was a kind of metal coil shield sitting loose on the cover. Looks like it was glued on and the glue may have gone dry so it fell off. I put it back on to where it fell off from and held it on with a tape but no difference. All connections and soldering seem okay. Playback is fine. Any reason why it stopped erasing? Thanks Peter Hi Peter You haven't commented on record performance. If your bias oscillator is working correctly, then a defective erase head is possible. Erase head could be open circuit, or have shorted turns, in which case you would need to replace it. It's possible your erase head is fine but isn’t contacting the tape. Check the head height and track alignment of the erase head if you can, and make sure it's clean. If the erase head is ok, then it comes down to the bias oscillator. Check its output level and frequency. If the bias oscillator is defective, then as well as no erase, it should either be recording badly, or not recording at all. And I almost forgot. The erase head has a cable and connector. So make sure it's plugged in to the bias oscillator, and check the connections at the bias oscillator end and at the erase head end. Measure its resistance at the connector to the bias oscillator - it should measure about 1.3 Ohms at the socket. Cheers John -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Wed Jan 27 20:16:17 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Andrew via Naktalk) Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2021 22:16:17 +0300 Subject: [naktalk] 480Z doesn't erase In-Reply-To: References: <009301d6f3ff$4e3a1e10$eaae5a30$.ref@aol.com> <009301d6f3ff$4e3a1e10$eaae5a30$@aol.com> Message-ID: If you hear crackles it looks like bias oscillator doesnt work or its signal is not fed to rec and erase heads. Crackles in this context (no erase function) means that you have no bias signal. Check bias oscillator output and bias signal path with the scope, it will show you where the problem is. On Wed, Jan 27, 2021, 19:56 Peter Tanner via Naktalk wrote: > Hello John, > > You are right, I forgot to check the record performance. I've checked it > now. There isn't any. The meters or actually the LED indicators show the > exact input but there is nothing recorded on the tape. Some crackles. The > record/playback switch seems to be okay; I've sprayed it with Deoxit. > Everything works in playback mode and the sound is good. The erase head > connector has about 1.3 ohm difference between record/pause or play and > stop. The head height and connections seem to be good. I'm not sure how to > measure the bias oscillator output level. Some connector points have DC > voltage on them and others have nothing. Thanks for the help > > Peter > > ------------------------------ > *From:* John Gipps > *Sent:* Tuesday, January 26, 2021 8:21 AM > *To:* naktalk at lists.naks.com ; > naktalk-request at lists.naks.com > *Cc:* 'Peter Tanner' ; JohnGipps at aol.com < > JohnGipps at aol.com> > *Subject:* [naktalk] 480Z doesn't erase > > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2021 18:06:16 +0000 > From: Peter Tanner via Naktalk > To: "naktalk at lists.naks.com" > Subject: [naktalk] 480Z doesn't erase > > > Hello, > > 480Z stopped erasing. The two caps in the bias oscillator were changed a > while ago. When I opened the bottom cover there was a kind of metal coil > shield sitting loose on the cover. Looks like it was glued on and the glue > may have gone dry so it fell off. I put it back on to where it fell off > from and held it on with a tape but no difference. All connections and > soldering seem okay. Playback is fine. Any reason why it stopped erasing? > Thanks > > Peter > > Hi Peter > > You haven't commented on record performance. If your bias oscillator is > working correctly, then a defective erase head is possible. Erase head > could be open circuit, or have shorted turns, in which case you would need > to replace it. It's possible your erase head is fine but isn’t contacting > the tape. Check the head height and track alignment of the erase head if > you can, and make sure it's clean. If the erase head is ok, then it comes > down to the bias oscillator. Check its output level and frequency. If the > bias oscillator is defective, then as well as no erase, it should either be > recording badly, or not recording at all. > > And I almost forgot. The erase head has a cable and connector. So make > sure it's plugged in to the bias oscillator, and check the connections at > the bias oscillator end and at the erase head end. Measure its resistance > at the connector to the bias oscillator - it should measure about 1.3 Ohms > at the socket. > > Cheers > > John > > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Wed Jan 27 22:22:10 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Peter Tanner via Naktalk) Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2021 21:22:10 +0000 Subject: [naktalk] 480Z doesn't erase In-Reply-To: References: <009301d6f3ff$4e3a1e10$eaae5a30$.ref@aol.com> <009301d6f3ff$4e3a1e10$eaae5a30$@aol.com> , Message-ID: I don't have a scope unfortunately. DMM only and a frequency counter. I do have a couple of spare oscillators from donor decks. Would changing it help? Or is there another way to check the signal path without a scope? ________________________________ From: Andrew Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 11:16 AM To: Peter Tanner ; Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks Subject: Re: [naktalk] 480Z doesn't erase If you hear crackles it looks like bias oscillator doesnt work or its signal is not fed to rec and erase heads. Crackles in this context (no erase function) means that you have no bias signal. Check bias oscillator output and bias signal path with the scope, it will show you where the problem is. On Wed, Jan 27, 2021, 19:56 Peter Tanner via Naktalk > wrote: Hello John, You are right, I forgot to check the record performance. I've checked it now. There isn't any. The meters or actually the LED indicators show the exact input but there is nothing recorded on the tape. Some crackles. The record/playback switch seems to be okay; I've sprayed it with Deoxit. Everything works in playback mode and the sound is good. The erase head connector has about 1.3 ohm difference between record/pause or play and stop. The head height and connections seem to be good. I'm not sure how to measure the bias oscillator output level. Some connector points have DC voltage on them and others have nothing. Thanks for the help Peter ________________________________ From: John Gipps > Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2021 8:21 AM To: naktalk at lists.naks.com >; naktalk-request at lists.naks.com > Cc: 'Peter Tanner' >; JohnGipps at aol.com > Subject: [naktalk] 480Z doesn't erase Message: 1 Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2021 18:06:16 +0000 From: Peter Tanner via Naktalk > To: "naktalk at lists.naks.com" > Subject: [naktalk] 480Z doesn't erase Hello, 480Z stopped erasing. The two caps in the bias oscillator were changed a while ago. When I opened the bottom cover there was a kind of metal coil shield sitting loose on the cover. Looks like it was glued on and the glue may have gone dry so it fell off. I put it back on to where it fell off from and held it on with a tape but no difference. All connections and soldering seem okay. Playback is fine. Any reason why it stopped erasing? Thanks Peter Hi Peter You haven't commented on record performance. If your bias oscillator is working correctly, then a defective erase head is possible. Erase head could be open circuit, or have shorted turns, in which case you would need to replace it. It's possible your erase head is fine but isn’t contacting the tape. Check the head height and track alignment of the erase head if you can, and make sure it's clean. If the erase head is ok, then it comes down to the bias oscillator. Check its output level and frequency. If the bias oscillator is defective, then as well as no erase, it should either be recording badly, or not recording at all. And I almost forgot. The erase head has a cable and connector. So make sure it's plugged in to the bias oscillator, and check the connections at the bias oscillator end and at the erase head end. Measure its resistance at the connector to the bias oscillator - it should measure about 1.3 Ohms at the socket. Cheers John ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Thu Jan 28 00:23:36 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Cheryl Kaupp via Naktalk) Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2021 13:23:36 -1000 Subject: [naktalk] 480Z doesn't erase In-Reply-To: References: <009301d6f3ff$4e3a1e10$eaae5a30$.ref@aol.com> <009301d6f3ff$4e3a1e10$eaae5a30$@aol.com> , Message-ID: Hi Peter, You can unsolder one leg from each cap and test the capacitance of each of them to make sure they are in range and that they aren't open circuits. It won't tell you everything but it's a good start and is simple and easy to do. Aloha, Cheryl From: Naktalk On Behalf Of Peter Tanner via Naktalk Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 11:22 AM To: Andrew Cc: Naktalk Subject: Re: [naktalk] 480Z doesn't erase I don't have a scope unfortunately. DMM only and a frequency counter. I do have a couple of spare oscillators from donor decks. Would changing it help? Or is there another way to check the signal path without a scope? _____ From: Andrew > Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 11:16 AM To: Peter Tanner >; Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > Subject: Re: [naktalk] 480Z doesn't erase If you hear crackles it looks like bias oscillator doesnt work or its signal is not fed to rec and erase heads. Crackles in this context (no erase function) means that you have no bias signal. Check bias oscillator output and bias signal path with the scope, it will show you where the problem is. On Wed, Jan 27, 2021, 19:56 Peter Tanner via Naktalk > wrote: Hello John, You are right, I forgot to check the record performance. I've checked it now. There isn't any. The meters or actually the LED indicators show the exact input but there is nothing recorded on the tape. Some crackles. The record/playback switch seems to be okay; I've sprayed it with Deoxit. Everything works in playback mode and the sound is good. The erase head connector has about 1.3 ohm difference between record/pause or play and stop. The head height and connections seem to be good. I'm not sure how to measure the bias oscillator output level. Some connector points have DC voltage on them and others have nothing. Thanks for the help Peter _____ From: John Gipps > Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2021 8:21 AM To: naktalk at lists.naks.com >; naktalk-request at lists.naks.com > Cc: 'Peter Tanner' >; JohnGipps at aol.com > Subject: [naktalk] 480Z doesn't erase Message: 1 Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2021 18:06:16 +0000 From: Peter Tanner via Naktalk > To: "naktalk at lists.naks.com " > Subject: [naktalk] 480Z doesn't erase Hello, 480Z stopped erasing. The two caps in the bias oscillator were changed a while ago. When I opened the bottom cover there was a kind of metal coil shield sitting loose on the cover. Looks like it was glued on and the glue may have gone dry so it fell off. I put it back on to where it fell off from and held it on with a tape but no difference. All connections and soldering seem okay. Playback is fine. Any reason why it stopped erasing? Thanks Peter Hi Peter You haven't commented on record performance. If your bias oscillator is working correctly, then a defective erase head is possible. Erase head could be open circuit, or have shorted turns, in which case you would need to replace it. It's possible your erase head is fine but isn't contacting the tape. Check the head height and track alignment of the erase head if you can, and make sure it's clean. If the erase head is ok, then it comes down to the bias oscillator. Check its output level and frequency. If the bias oscillator is defective, then as well as no erase, it should either be recording badly, or not recording at all. And I almost forgot. The erase head has a cable and connector. So make sure it's plugged in to the bias oscillator, and check the connections at the bias oscillator end and at the erase head end. Measure its resistance at the connector to the bias oscillator - it should measure about 1.3 Ohms at the socket. Cheers John ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Thu Jan 28 04:17:47 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Tom Brucker via Naktalk) Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2021 21:17:47 -0600 Subject: [naktalk] 480Z doesn't erase In-Reply-To: References: <009301d6f3ff$4e3a1e10$eaae5a30$.ref@aol.com> <009301d6f3ff$4e3a1e10$eaae5a30$@aol.com> Message-ID: Measure DC voltage drop across the 2 watt resistor supplying power to the bias oscillator. If no drop, then the 2 transistors are bad. On Wed, Jan 27, 2021, 1:17 PM Andrew via Naktalk wrote: > If you hear crackles it looks like bias oscillator doesnt work or its > signal is not fed to rec and erase heads. Crackles in this context (no > erase function) means that you have no bias signal. Check bias oscillator > output and bias signal path with the scope, it will show you where the > problem is. > > On Wed, Jan 27, 2021, 19:56 Peter Tanner via Naktalk < > naktalk at lists.naks.com> wrote: > >> Hello John, >> >> You are right, I forgot to check the record performance. I've checked it >> now. There isn't any. The meters or actually the LED indicators show the >> exact input but there is nothing recorded on the tape. Some crackles. The >> record/playback switch seems to be okay; I've sprayed it with Deoxit. >> Everything works in playback mode and the sound is good. The erase head >> connector has about 1.3 ohm difference between record/pause or play and >> stop. The head height and connections seem to be good. I'm not sure how to >> measure the bias oscillator output level. Some connector points have DC >> voltage on them and others have nothing. Thanks for the help >> >> Peter >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From:* John Gipps >> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 26, 2021 8:21 AM >> *To:* naktalk at lists.naks.com ; >> naktalk-request at lists.naks.com >> *Cc:* 'Peter Tanner' ; JohnGipps at aol.com < >> JohnGipps at aol.com> >> *Subject:* [naktalk] 480Z doesn't erase >> >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2021 18:06:16 +0000 >> From: Peter Tanner via Naktalk >> To: "naktalk at lists.naks.com" >> Subject: [naktalk] 480Z doesn't erase >> >> >> Hello, >> >> 480Z stopped erasing. The two caps in the bias oscillator were changed a >> while ago. When I opened the bottom cover there was a kind of metal coil >> shield sitting loose on the cover. Looks like it was glued on and the glue >> may have gone dry so it fell off. I put it back on to where it fell off >> from and held it on with a tape but no difference. All connections and >> soldering seem okay. Playback is fine. Any reason why it stopped erasing? >> Thanks >> >> Peter >> >> Hi Peter >> >> You haven't commented on record performance. If your bias oscillator is >> working correctly, then a defective erase head is possible. Erase head >> could be open circuit, or have shorted turns, in which case you would need >> to replace it. It's possible your erase head is fine but isn’t contacting >> the tape. Check the head height and track alignment of the erase head if >> you can, and make sure it's clean. If the erase head is ok, then it comes >> down to the bias oscillator. Check its output level and frequency. If the >> bias oscillator is defective, then as well as no erase, it should either be >> recording badly, or not recording at all. >> >> And I almost forgot. The erase head has a cable and connector. So make >> sure it's plugged in to the bias oscillator, and check the connections at >> the bias oscillator end and at the erase head end. Measure its resistance >> at the connector to the bias oscillator - it should measure about 1.3 Ohms >> at the socket. >> >> Cheers >> >> John >> >> >> >> ========---------------------------------------------------------========= >> Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com >> ========---------------------------------------------------------========= >> Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist >> Maintain your account here: >> http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >> ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Fri Jan 29 23:40:12 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Peter Tanner via Naktalk) Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2021 22:40:12 +0000 Subject: [naktalk] 480Z doesn't erase In-Reply-To: References: <009301d6f3ff$4e3a1e10$eaae5a30$.ref@aol.com> <009301d6f3ff$4e3a1e10$eaae5a30$@aol.com> , Message-ID: Measured it. There is a drop in record/pause or record/play. 24 volts to 14. No drop in play/pause or play. ________________________________ From: Naktalk on behalf of Tom Brucker via Naktalk Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 7:17 PM To: Andrew ; Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks Subject: Re: [naktalk] 480Z doesn't erase Measure DC voltage drop across the 2 watt resistor supplying power to the bias oscillator. If no drop, then the 2 transistors are bad. On Wed, Jan 27, 2021, 1:17 PM Andrew via Naktalk > wrote: If you hear crackles it looks like bias oscillator doesnt work or its signal is not fed to rec and erase heads. Crackles in this context (no erase function) means that you have no bias signal. Check bias oscillator output and bias signal path with the scope, it will show you where the problem is. On Wed, Jan 27, 2021, 19:56 Peter Tanner via Naktalk > wrote: Hello John, You are right, I forgot to check the record performance. I've checked it now. There isn't any. The meters or actually the LED indicators show the exact input but there is nothing recorded on the tape. Some crackles. The record/playback switch seems to be okay; I've sprayed it with Deoxit. Everything works in playback mode and the sound is good. The erase head connector has about 1.3 ohm difference between record/pause or play and stop. The head height and connections seem to be good. I'm not sure how to measure the bias oscillator output level. Some connector points have DC voltage on them and others have nothing. Thanks for the help Peter ________________________________ From: John Gipps > Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2021 8:21 AM To: naktalk at lists.naks.com >; naktalk-request at lists.naks.com > Cc: 'Peter Tanner' >; JohnGipps at aol.com > Subject: [naktalk] 480Z doesn't erase Message: 1 Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2021 18:06:16 +0000 From: Peter Tanner via Naktalk > To: "naktalk at lists.naks.com" > Subject: [naktalk] 480Z doesn't erase Hello, 480Z stopped erasing. The two caps in the bias oscillator were changed a while ago. When I opened the bottom cover there was a kind of metal coil shield sitting loose on the cover. Looks like it was glued on and the glue may have gone dry so it fell off. I put it back on to where it fell off from and held it on with a tape but no difference. All connections and soldering seem okay. Playback is fine. Any reason why it stopped erasing? Thanks Peter Hi Peter You haven't commented on record performance. If your bias oscillator is working correctly, then a defective erase head is possible. Erase head could be open circuit, or have shorted turns, in which case you would need to replace it. It's possible your erase head is fine but isn’t contacting the tape. Check the head height and track alignment of the erase head if you can, and make sure it's clean. If the erase head is ok, then it comes down to the bias oscillator. Check its output level and frequency. If the bias oscillator is defective, then as well as no erase, it should either be recording badly, or not recording at all. And I almost forgot. The erase head has a cable and connector. So make sure it's plugged in to the bias oscillator, and check the connections at the bias oscillator end and at the erase head end. Measure its resistance at the connector to the bias oscillator - it should measure about 1.3 Ohms at the socket. 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URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Fri Jan 29 23:37:05 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Peter Tanner via Naktalk) Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2021 22:37:05 +0000 Subject: [naktalk] 480Z doesn't erase In-Reply-To: References: <009301d6f3ff$4e3a1e10$eaae5a30$.ref@aol.com> <009301d6f3ff$4e3a1e10$eaae5a30$@aol.com> , Message-ID: Measured it. There is a drop in record/pause or record/play. 24 volts to 14. No drop in play/pause or play. ________________________________ From: Naktalk on behalf of Tom Brucker via Naktalk Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 7:17 PM To: Andrew ; Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks Subject: Re: [naktalk] 480Z doesn't erase Measure DC voltage drop across the 2 watt resistor supplying power to the bias oscillator. If no drop, then the 2 transistors are bad. On Wed, Jan 27, 2021, 1:17 PM Andrew via Naktalk > wrote: If you hear crackles it looks like bias oscillator doesnt work or its signal is not fed to rec and erase heads. Crackles in this context (no erase function) means that you have no bias signal. Check bias oscillator output and bias signal path with the scope, it will show you where the problem is. On Wed, Jan 27, 2021, 19:56 Peter Tanner via Naktalk > wrote: Hello John, You are right, I forgot to check the record performance. I've checked it now. There isn't any. The meters or actually the LED indicators show the exact input but there is nothing recorded on the tape. Some crackles. The record/playback switch seems to be okay; I've sprayed it with Deoxit. Everything works in playback mode and the sound is good. The erase head connector has about 1.3 ohm difference between record/pause or play and stop. The head height and connections seem to be good. I'm not sure how to measure the bias oscillator output level. Some connector points have DC voltage on them and others have nothing. Thanks for the help Peter ________________________________ From: John Gipps > Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2021 8:21 AM To: naktalk at lists.naks.com >; naktalk-request at lists.naks.com > Cc: 'Peter Tanner' >; JohnGipps at aol.com > Subject: [naktalk] 480Z doesn't erase Message: 1 Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2021 18:06:16 +0000 From: Peter Tanner via Naktalk > To: "naktalk at lists.naks.com" > Subject: [naktalk] 480Z doesn't erase Hello, 480Z stopped erasing. The two caps in the bias oscillator were changed a while ago. When I opened the bottom cover there was a kind of metal coil shield sitting loose on the cover. Looks like it was glued on and the glue may have gone dry so it fell off. I put it back on to where it fell off from and held it on with a tape but no difference. All connections and soldering seem okay. Playback is fine. Any reason why it stopped erasing? Thanks Peter Hi Peter You haven't commented on record performance. If your bias oscillator is working correctly, then a defective erase head is possible. Erase head could be open circuit, or have shorted turns, in which case you would need to replace it. It's possible your erase head is fine but isn’t contacting the tape. Check the head height and track alignment of the erase head if you can, and make sure it's clean. If the erase head is ok, then it comes down to the bias oscillator. Check its output level and frequency. If the bias oscillator is defective, then as well as no erase, it should either be recording badly, or not recording at all. And I almost forgot. The erase head has a cable and connector. So make sure it's plugged in to the bias oscillator, and check the connections at the bias oscillator end and at the erase head end. Measure its resistance at the connector to the bias oscillator - it should measure about 1.3 Ohms at the socket. 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URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Fri Jan 29 23:54:02 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Peter Tanner via Naktalk) Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2021 22:54:02 +0000 Subject: [naktalk] 480Z doesn't erase In-Reply-To: References: <009301d6f3ff$4e3a1e10$eaae5a30$.ref@aol.com> <009301d6f3ff$4e3a1e10$eaae5a30$@aol.com> , Message-ID: Done that. No change. Seems there is no current from the erase head connector on the board. There is a couple of ohms of resistance. Caps have been changed. Not sure if it has anything to do with the erase head. I have spares for that too but not the gauges to install it properly. I only have gauges for the record/playback head and the guide height. ________________________________ From: Andrew Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 10:29 PM To: Peter Tanner Subject: Re: [naktalk] 480Z doesn't erase You can use software scope that works via the sound card. If you meter accepts high frequencies you may try it on AC setting to check the oscillation. Also, consider other replies (check caps ant transistors in bias osc). May be its easier to replace with one of your spare oscillators (change orange caps in them if any, check soldering, other parts in them, as I know, are durable enough). On Thu, Jan 28, 2021, 00:22 Peter Tanner > wrote: I don't have a scope unfortunately. DMM only and a frequency counter. I do have a couple of spare oscillators from donor decks. Would changing it help? Or is there another way to check the signal path without a scope? ________________________________ From: Andrew > Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 11:16 AM To: Peter Tanner >; Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > Subject: Re: [naktalk] 480Z doesn't erase If you hear crackles it looks like bias oscillator doesnt work or its signal is not fed to rec and erase heads. Crackles in this context (no erase function) means that you have no bias signal. Check bias oscillator output and bias signal path with the scope, it will show you where the problem is. On Wed, Jan 27, 2021, 19:56 Peter Tanner via Naktalk > wrote: Hello John, You are right, I forgot to check the record performance. I've checked it now. There isn't any. The meters or actually the LED indicators show the exact input but there is nothing recorded on the tape. Some crackles. The record/playback switch seems to be okay; I've sprayed it with Deoxit. Everything works in playback mode and the sound is good. The erase head connector has about 1.3 ohm difference between record/pause or play and stop. The head height and connections seem to be good. I'm not sure how to measure the bias oscillator output level. Some connector points have DC voltage on them and others have nothing. Thanks for the help Peter ________________________________ From: John Gipps > Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2021 8:21 AM To: naktalk at lists.naks.com >; naktalk-request at lists.naks.com > Cc: 'Peter Tanner' >; JohnGipps at aol.com > Subject: [naktalk] 480Z doesn't erase Message: 1 Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2021 18:06:16 +0000 From: Peter Tanner via Naktalk > To: "naktalk at lists.naks.com" > Subject: [naktalk] 480Z doesn't erase Hello, 480Z stopped erasing. The two caps in the bias oscillator were changed a while ago. When I opened the bottom cover there was a kind of metal coil shield sitting loose on the cover. Looks like it was glued on and the glue may have gone dry so it fell off. I put it back on to where it fell off from and held it on with a tape but no difference. All connections and soldering seem okay. Playback is fine. Any reason why it stopped erasing? Thanks Peter Hi Peter You haven't commented on record performance. If your bias oscillator is working correctly, then a defective erase head is possible. Erase head could be open circuit, or have shorted turns, in which case you would need to replace it. It's possible your erase head is fine but isn’t contacting the tape. Check the head height and track alignment of the erase head if you can, and make sure it's clean. If the erase head is ok, then it comes down to the bias oscillator. Check its output level and frequency. If the bias oscillator is defective, then as well as no erase, it should either be recording badly, or not recording at all. And I almost forgot. The erase head has a cable and connector. So make sure it's plugged in to the bias oscillator, and check the connections at the bias oscillator end and at the erase head end. Measure its resistance at the connector to the bias oscillator - it should measure about 1.3 Ohms at the socket. Cheers John ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Sat Jan 30 18:46:39 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Cheryl Kaupp via Naktalk) Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2021 07:46:39 -1000 Subject: [naktalk] 480Z doesn't erase In-Reply-To: References: <009301d6f3ff$4e3a1e10$eaae5a30$.ref@aol.com> <009301d6f3ff$4e3a1e10$eaae5a30$@aol.com> , Message-ID: Even if the caps were replaced in the past they can still go bad. When I recapped my decks a few of the replacement caps were so far out of range that I tossed them. When my 581 first started acting up, it was doing what you describe. Playback seemed fine but it wasn't erasing and new recordings were awful and were in fact recorded on top of un-erased tape. It turned out that one of the screws that hold one of the posts that separate the plates had fallen out. Because of that, the tape guides were misaligned and the tape wasn't contacting the heads properly. I had repair the post and buy Willy's alignment tool to realign the tape guides. Cheryl From: Naktalk On Behalf Of Peter Tanner via Naktalk Sent: Friday, January 29, 2021 12:54 PM To: Andrew Cc: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks Subject: Re: [naktalk] 480Z doesn't erase Done that. No change. Seems there is no current from the erase head connector on the board. There is a couple of ohms of resistance. Caps have been changed. Not sure if it has anything to do with the erase head. I have spares for that too but not the gauges to install it properly. I only have gauges for the record/playback head and the guide height. _____ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Sat Jan 30 22:25:36 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Peter Tanner via Naktalk) Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2021 21:25:36 +0000 Subject: [naktalk] 480Z doesn't erase In-Reply-To: References: <009301d6f3ff$4e3a1e10$eaae5a30$.ref@aol.com> <009301d6f3ff$4e3a1e10$eaae5a30$@aol.com> , , Message-ID: Hi Cheryl, Glad you are still posting. These caps have been replaced twice now. The last ones are Wimas 100 volt 2% caps. Brand new. This deck sounds great and has no transport issues. So, I don't know. I also have a 582 but somebody asked me to record a few tapes from a set of LPs but he gave me normal bias tapes and in order to avoid the hiss he asked me to do it in Dolby C. This is the only deck I have with C. In the bias oscillator just about everything has been replaced, including the oscillator itself except the two transistors next to it. I can replace them as well but somehow I don't think they are the problem. In any case it doesn't record either which is even more disconcerting as it may be caused by something other than the bias oscillator. Thanks for trying anyway Peter ________________________________ From: Cheryl Kaupp Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2021 9:46 AM To: 'Peter Tanner' ; 'Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks' Subject: RE: [naktalk] 480Z doesn't erase Even if the caps were replaced in the past they can still go bad. When I recapped my decks a few of the replacement caps were so far out of range that I tossed them. When my 581 first started acting up, it was doing what you describe. Playback seemed fine but it wasn’t erasing and new recordings were awful and were in fact recorded on top of un-erased tape. It turned out that one of the screws that hold one of the posts that separate the plates had fallen out. Because of that, the tape guides were misaligned and the tape wasn’t contacting the heads properly. I had repair the post and buy Willy’s alignment tool to realign the tape guides. Cheryl From: Naktalk On Behalf Of Peter Tanner via Naktalk Sent: Friday, January 29, 2021 12:54 PM To: Andrew Cc: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks Subject: Re: [naktalk] 480Z doesn't erase Done that. No change. Seems there is no current from the erase head connector on the board. There is a couple of ohms of resistance. Caps have been changed. Not sure if it has anything to do with the erase head. I have spares for that too but not the gauges to install it properly. I only have gauges for the record/playback head and the guide height. ________________________________ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Sun Jan 31 03:02:15 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Tom Brucker via Naktalk) Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2021 20:02:15 -0600 Subject: [naktalk] 480Z doesn't erase In-Reply-To: References: <009301d6f3ff$4e3a1e10$eaae5a30$.ref@aol.com> <009301d6f3ff$4e3a1e10$eaae5a30$@aol.com> Message-ID: Hmm. You confirmed that the erase head is connected to the wire. Is the erase head positioned correctly? If you try recording over some music, the record bias will partially erase the original music. If this does not happen, then something is wrong with the bias oscillator transformer. Or, simply replace both 4700pf capacitors in the oscillator because they are leaky. On Sat, Jan 30, 2021, 3:25 PM Peter Tanner via Naktalk < naktalk at lists.naks.com> wrote: > Hi Cheryl, > > Glad you are still posting. > These caps have been replaced twice now. The last ones are Wimas 100 volt > 2% caps. Brand new. This deck sounds great and has no transport issues. So, > I don't know. I also have a 582 but somebody asked me to record a few tapes > from a set of LPs but he gave me normal bias tapes and in order to avoid > the hiss he asked me to do it in Dolby C. This is the only deck I have with > C. > > In the bias oscillator just about everything has been replaced, including > the oscillator itself except the two transistors next to it. I can replace > them as well but somehow I don't think they are the problem. In any case it > doesn't record either which is even more disconcerting as it may be caused > by something other than the bias oscillator. Thanks for trying anyway > > Peter > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Cheryl Kaupp > *Sent:* Saturday, January 30, 2021 9:46 AM > *To:* 'Peter Tanner' ; 'Talk about Nakamichi > Cassette Decks' > *Subject:* RE: [naktalk] 480Z doesn't erase > > > Even if the caps were replaced in the past they can still go bad. When I > recapped my decks a few of the replacement caps were so far out of range > that I tossed them. > > > > When my 581 first started acting up, it was doing what you describe. > Playback seemed fine but it wasn’t erasing and new recordings were awful > and were in fact recorded on top of un-erased tape. It turned out that one > of the screws that hold one of the posts that separate the plates had > fallen out. Because of that, the tape guides were misaligned and the tape > wasn’t contacting the heads properly. I had repair the post and buy Willy’s > alignment tool to realign the tape guides. > > Cheryl > > > > > > *From:* Naktalk *On Behalf Of *Peter > Tanner via Naktalk > *Sent:* Friday, January 29, 2021 12:54 PM > *To:* Andrew > *Cc:* Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > *Subject:* Re: [naktalk] 480Z doesn't erase > > > > Done that. No change. Seems there is no current from the erase head > connector on the board. There is a couple of ohms of resistance. Caps have > been changed. Not sure if it has anything to do with the erase head. I have > spares for that too but not the gauges to install it properly. I only have > gauges for the record/playback head and the guide height. > > > ------------------------------ > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Sun Jan 31 14:53:54 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Birger Glosimot via Naktalk) Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2021 14:53:54 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] 480Z doesn't erase In-Reply-To: References: <009301d6f3ff$4e3a1e10$eaae5a30$.ref@aol.com> <009301d6f3ff$4e3a1e10$eaae5a30$@aol.com> Message-ID: <001b01d6f7d8$85dce050$9196a0f0$@tilkoblet.net> I have experienced that exactly those two transistors did not allow one of my 480 and also one of my 580 series decks to give good recording, even after replacing the bias caps. Transistors marked ()945. Birger Fra: Naktalk På vegne av Tom Brucker via Naktalk Sendt: søndag 31. januar 2021 03.02 Til: Peter Tanner ; Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks Emne: Re: [naktalk] 480Z doesn't erase Hmm. You confirmed that the erase head is connected to the wire. Is the erase head positioned correctly? If you try recording over some music, the record bias will partially erase the original music. If this does not happen, then something is wrong with the bias oscillator transformer. Or, simply replace both 4700pf capacitors in the oscillator because they are leaky. On Sat, Jan 30, 2021, 3:25 PM Peter Tanner via Naktalk > wrote: Hi Cheryl, Glad you are still posting. These caps have been replaced twice now. The last ones are Wimas 100 volt 2% caps. Brand new. This deck sounds great and has no transport issues. So, I don't know. I also have a 582 but somebody asked me to record a few tapes from a set of LPs but he gave me normal bias tapes and in order to avoid the hiss he asked me to do it in Dolby C. This is the only deck I have with C. In the bias oscillator just about everything has been replaced, including the oscillator itself except the two transistors next to it. I can replace them as well but somehow I don't think they are the problem. In any case it doesn't record either which is even more disconcerting as it may be caused by something other than the bias oscillator. Thanks for trying anyway Peter _____ From: Cheryl Kaupp > Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2021 9:46 AM To: 'Peter Tanner' >; 'Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks' > Subject: RE: [naktalk] 480Z doesn't erase Even if the caps were replaced in the past they can still go bad. When I recapped my decks a few of the replacement caps were so far out of range that I tossed them. When my 581 first started acting up, it was doing what you describe. Playback seemed fine but it wasn’t erasing and new recordings were awful and were in fact recorded on top of un-erased tape. It turned out that one of the screws that hold one of the posts that separate the plates had fallen out. Because of that, the tape guides were misaligned and the tape wasn’t contacting the heads properly. I had repair the post and buy Willy’s alignment tool to realign the tape guides. Cheryl From: Naktalk > On Behalf Of Peter Tanner via Naktalk Sent: Friday, January 29, 2021 12:54 PM To: Andrew > Cc: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > Subject: Re: [naktalk] 480Z doesn't erase Done that. No change. Seems there is no current from the erase head connector on the board. There is a couple of ohms of resistance. Caps have been changed. Not sure if it has anything to do with the erase head. I have spares for that too but not the gauges to install it properly. I only have gauges for the record/playback head and the guide height. _____ ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Sun Jan 31 23:07:45 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Peter Tanner via Naktalk) Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2021 22:07:45 +0000 Subject: [naktalk] 480Z doesn't erase In-Reply-To: References: <009301d6f3ff$4e3a1e10$eaae5a30$.ref@aol.com> <009301d6f3ff$4e3a1e10$eaae5a30$@aol.com> , Message-ID: Those caps have been replaced twice. I'll do it again if necessary. All wiring seems to be correct. I've checked and cleaned the erase head, I don't think it needs any adjustment, it has never been touched before. In any case it used to erase only a couple of weeks ago. It recorded as well albeit not too well. Right now it does not erase at all. It does not record either on a blank cassette although the input signals show on the LEDs. Could it be something to do with the playback/record switch although the deck works just fine in playback? ________________________________ From: Tom Brucker Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2021 6:02 PM To: Peter Tanner ; Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks Subject: Re: [naktalk] 480Z doesn't erase Hmm. You confirmed that the erase head is connected to the wire. Is the erase head positioned correctly? If you try recording over some music, the record bias will partially erase the original music. If this does not happen, then something is wrong with the bias oscillator transformer. Or, simply replace both 4700pf capacitors in the oscillator because they are leaky. On Sat, Jan 30, 2021, 3:25 PM Peter Tanner via Naktalk > wrote: Hi Cheryl, Glad you are still posting. These caps have been replaced twice now. The last ones are Wimas 100 volt 2% caps. Brand new. This deck sounds great and has no transport issues. So, I don't know. I also have a 582 but somebody asked me to record a few tapes from a set of LPs but he gave me normal bias tapes and in order to avoid the hiss he asked me to do it in Dolby C. This is the only deck I have with C. In the bias oscillator just about everything has been replaced, including the oscillator itself except the two transistors next to it. I can replace them as well but somehow I don't think they are the problem. In any case it doesn't record either which is even more disconcerting as it may be caused by something other than the bias oscillator. Thanks for trying anyway Peter ________________________________ From: Cheryl Kaupp > Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2021 9:46 AM To: 'Peter Tanner' >; 'Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks' > Subject: RE: [naktalk] 480Z doesn't erase Even if the caps were replaced in the past they can still go bad. When I recapped my decks a few of the replacement caps were so far out of range that I tossed them. When my 581 first started acting up, it was doing what you describe. Playback seemed fine but it wasn’t erasing and new recordings were awful and were in fact recorded on top of un-erased tape. It turned out that one of the screws that hold one of the posts that separate the plates had fallen out. Because of that, the tape guides were misaligned and the tape wasn’t contacting the heads properly. I had repair the post and buy Willy’s alignment tool to realign the tape guides. Cheryl From: Naktalk > On Behalf Of Peter Tanner via Naktalk Sent: Friday, January 29, 2021 12:54 PM To: Andrew > Cc: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > Subject: Re: [naktalk] 480Z doesn't erase Done that. No change. Seems there is no current from the erase head connector on the board. There is a couple of ohms of resistance. Caps have been changed. Not sure if it has anything to do with the erase head. I have spares for that too but not the gauges to install it properly. 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URL: g:\07. razno\naktalk archive\2021\2021-10.txt ************************************************************************ From naktalk at lists.naks.com Wed Oct 6 15:45:18 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Daniel Botelho via Naktalk) Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2021 09:45:18 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] Update: ProChrome traveling tape In-Reply-To: <9F138819-FC5A-4FAB-8F00-F4A017F39CC5@kozaglobal.com> References: <2hggumet17qaokcurbt76tq2.1626327352085@gmail.com> <9F138819-FC5A-4FAB-8F00-F4A017F39CC5@kozaglobal.com> Message-ID: Hey ural, I have not heard a peep about the tape! Just curious...where is it located at the moment? Does anyone know? :) On Thu, Jul 15, 2021 at 3:38 AM Ural Durusu wrote: > Good to hear from the tape. Don’t worry I will send it from the Post > Office. When I paid the fee I don’t think that they will ask any from the > receiver. > > Ural > > > Daniel Botelho via Naktalk şunları yazdı (15 > Tem 2021 08:35): > > > > :( > > > > Wow...that really sucks on both ends. > > > > I remember chatting with Jeff, and he paid a pretty penny to ship it out > to you rainier. > > > > Cheap was not the word I would use when using UPS... :( I know USPS > can be very picky when shipping stuff internationally... as Jeff mentioned > it cost more than UPS. > > > > Hopefully we can find a more reasonable cost when shipping this stuff. > I can probably print out pre-paid labels via UPS for a lot cheaper. > > > > Perhaps next time we try to keep it more local for certain routes to > keep those postage fees reasonable. > > > > > > > > > > > > Original Message > > > > > > From: naktalk at lists.naks.com > > Sent: July 15, 2021 12:58 a.m. > > To: joyell.solie at sasktel.net; naktalk at lists.naks.com > > Reply to: jeffmringer at yahoo.com; naktalk at lists.naks.com > > Subject: Re: [naktalk] Update: ProChrome traveling tape > > > > > > Sorry that happened Rainer; however, what they didn’t tell you was I had > to spend $47 USD to send it off. What a rip-off on both ends. Our USPS > would not send it, for either strange reasons or that they’re inherently > lazy. Next time I’ll try the PO on the other side of town. Again, > apologies. > > > >> On Jul 14, 2021, at 8:19 PM, Joy-Ell & Rainer via Naktalk < > naktalk at lists.naks.com> wrote: > >> > >> Soooooo on Monday UPS (courier) showed up at my door with the tape > (from Jeff) along with $32 of COD fees! I still had steam coming out of my > ears yesterday but today I got the tape sent off to Ural in Turkey for $6 > at the POST OFFICE. Frick'en UPS's trick is to give a smok'in deal to the > sender and collect big from the receiver which is probably why they didn't > want to send to Turkey because they might have a hard time collecting from > there! Ural, there is just under 6 minutes left on side A so hopefully you > can make that work for 1 song and put another on side B. 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There may be other faults but aside from replacing the PP caps as has been suggested here, the contact is the most common issue. Try cleaning the contacts and ensuring that the female ends on the boards have sufficient tension.  I have NOS parts available for the ZXLs and I am sure with the collective brains trust here, the metering will be fixed.  Kind Regards B On Tuesday, September 14, 2021, 11:13:03 PM GMT+10, Terry Barton via Naktalk wrote: Hi all, I have a 1000 ZXL which is functioning perfectly apart from one aspect, the digital fluorescent display. My engineer is an analogue expert so has been unable to rectify the problem. Essentially the display is working but not properly, I would describe it as having random bursts of inaccurate readings. I've previously been advised to replace C601 and C604 capacitors on the PCB A board, which has been done, bit it unfortunately made no difference. Any other suggestions please? Thanks in advance. 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It involves removing the bias cut jumper, feeding 23kHz (-20dB) into the input sockets and monitoring the voltage at TP101/201 on the main PCB while adjusting L101/L102 to obtain the peak reading. The maximum voltage I was able to achieve, (on an audio millivolt meter), was 10-12mV p-p with the inductors turned fully clockwise. Is this what would normally be expected? Cheers, Bill From naktalk at lists.naks.com Thu Oct 7 10:38:56 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Dr Doug via Naktalk) Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2021 08:38:56 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [naktalk] ZXL erratic fluorescent display In-Reply-To: <619309295.458803.1633563519621@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1610090169.101647.1631658486213@mail.yahoo.com> <619309295.458803.1633563519621@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1872187212.161301.1633595936377@mail.yahoo.com> Hello, I've only used Willy in California or ESL back in Connecticut, but ESL is expensive. Good luck. On Wednesday, October 6, 2021, 10:33:35 PM PDT, Alexander Collins via Naktalk wrote: Hello All, I have a few Nak's that need TLC. I reached out to Willy Herman in South Cal, but he has a hugebacklog. Do you guys know someone else that can help, maybe in the South Cal area? Cheers, Thank you Alexander David Collins On Tuesday, September 14, 2021, 06:52:57 PM GMT-10, Bala Ganesh Chandra via Naktalk wrote: HI Terry,  In accurate bursts on the display are quite commonly caused by poor contact between the detector board and main board into which it sits. There may be other faults but aside from replacing the PP caps as has been suggested here, the contact is the most common issue. Try cleaning the contacts and ensuring that the female ends on the boards have sufficient tension.  I have NOS parts available for the ZXLs and I am sure with the collective brains trust here, the metering will be fixed.  Kind Regards B On Tuesday, September 14, 2021, 11:13:03 PM GMT+10, Terry Barton via Naktalk wrote: Hi all, I have a 1000 ZXL which is functioning perfectly apart from one aspect, the digital fluorescent display. My engineer is an analogue expert so has been unable to rectify the problem. Essentially the display is working but not properly, I would describe it as having random bursts of inaccurate readings. I've previously been advised to replace C601 and C604 capacitors on the PCB A board, which has been done, bit it unfortunately made no difference. Any other suggestions please? Thanks in advance. 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URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Thu Oct 7 19:48:55 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Perry.nak via Naktalk) Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2021 13:48:55 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] ZX-7 equalizer adjustment Message-ID: <7C1AC194-A290-49FF-BC64-6A490B1E2BFC@comcast.net> I have probably restored 20 ZX-7/9 deck’s and have never had to adjust those coils. Please remember that all service instructions are based on there being a problem that needs rectifying, or an adjustment for replaced parts. If the EQ worked fine after the regular service items, then it is best to leave as is. Hopefully you marked the original location and counted turns on the coil. Rule of thumb is that no adjustment that is bottomed out is correct. Sent from my iPhone From naktalk at lists.naks.com Fri Oct 8 20:25:02 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Perry.nak via Naktalk) Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2021 14:25:02 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] 1000zxl display Message-ID: <09809687-4283-493E-8128-8374EE57960F@comcast.net> Be sure to replace all the tantalum capacitors in the deck, and in this case, the two on the Detector board and the one (4.7uF) next to the orange caps in the display. They are time bombs. They may or may not be the issue. Random bursts are usually clock irregularities with the 4040 logic chip. Cheap and easy to replace. Try that first after the caps. Sent from my iPhone From naktalk at lists.naks.com Tue Oct 19 01:05:21 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Bob Naylor via Naktalk) Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2021 19:05:21 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] ZX-7 calibration Message-ID: Hi all, Does the counter need to work for the calibration procedure to work? Here's the reason for asking The short story... My counter on my ZX-7 has been intermittent for a few years now but I just didn't worry about it. I didn't have to perform the calibration very often since I was using the same tapes but the other day I ran through the calibration procedure and it worked fine. The counter was also working. Shortly after the counter quit. Then the following happened... The long story of what happens trying to calibrate with inop counter... Start with azimuth get no reading on any of the three LED lights but when switching to source then back to tape, the LED will light up as it should for a couple seconds. Long enough for me to get it adjusted. Then the light/LED goes out. Then switch to the 400hz position. Same thing. You get nothing but switching to source you get the tone, and see it on the VU meters, then switch back to tape and get the tone and meter reading for only for a second or so, but long enough to tell if the setting is correct or not. Next is the 15K tone. That's a lot tougher to figure out however I can get it adjusted. Next hit the reset button which the calibration is now cancelled and the tape rewinds back to zero/0000, but in my case the counter is already at 0000. So I have two questions, does the counter need to operate for the entire calibration procedure to operate properly? Next question, since the tapes operate fine, only the counter is defective, I know the transport light/lamp must be working so I was thinking the IC on the counter board may be bad. Any ideas? Thanks guys for reading. Bob N -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Tue Oct 19 14:45:26 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Perry.nak via Naktalk) Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2021 08:45:26 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] ZX-7 Calibration Message-ID: <116178F6-B521-414E-B625-2A1AC207A96E@comcast.net> Hi Bob, No, the counter absolutely does not need to work to manually calibrate a tape on the ZX-7. It is only needed to Stop at 0000 at the end. When you calibrated that tape did it record well from end to to end? If it did not, then I would say it sounds to me like you are losing your bias, probably orange caps and/or the 4.7uF cap in the oscillator circuit. Obviously if it made a great recoding it is fine. If the recording was fine, then you may be losing your 400Hz internal tone, which is also usually a single orange cap. The azimuth calibration LEDs will only work if the recording of the 400Hz tone is strong enough for the comparator to work. If in Source, the 400Hz tone stays on for a few minutes then it is fine. The most common cause of this is a problematic Tape/Source switch. The switch has to be solidly conducting in Tape to operate properly. You can check the Azimuth switch contact to the logic chip by putting the deck in Rec Pause. If it starts to record and allows azimuth calibration when the Azimuth button is pressed, then it is fine. After those checks, anything else gets a bit more complicated. As you mentioned, I doubt the counter bulb is the problem, or of course, the deck would not play or record a tape at all, so the logic is good, seeing pulses and allowing the transport to operate. The last time I ran in to a counter not counting but mechanically was good, the counter reset signal was a constant “on”, so it was always 0000. I can’t recall what the cause was, but it was not the logic chip. Perry Sent from my iPhone From naktalk at lists.naks.com Tue Oct 19 15:03:43 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Perry.nak via Naktalk) Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2021 09:03:43 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] Calling on all 1000zxl masters! Message-ID: <54089972-E4D4-438E-833E-AE69DDE800B4@comcast.net> I finally got around to restoring one of my 1000zxls and it operates perfectly now. Totally recapped, calibrated, mechanically and via the M9057, and all recordings are flat on any tape I throw at it. It sounds great. Playback is flat (did require some typical resistor changes to do so), but operation of the transport is superb, with very low W&F, and the heads are in excellent shape. The only issue is an odd one, and it MAY be normal, but it seems like it wouldn’t be. When measuring THD on a T-100, all tapes have a higher THD, than that same tape on any other Nakamichi deck I have serviced, which is a lot of them. The difference range from well within acceptable variance to WTF?!? For instance, an MA-R or other high quality TypeIV will yield a good THD (all measured with no NR) of about 0.6%. Not a bad number and below spec. Throw the same tape in to my BX-300, (BX-300 calibrated for the same tapes) and I get closer to 0.4%, which is typical for any of my Naks. Measure a 1981 AD, and the 1000zxl produces as low as 1.25%, and some as high as 1.75%. Same exact tapes in the BX-300 yield 0.7%. A rather large discrepancy. The only common thread I can find, is that older, non-pristine tapes, all have much higher THD than when recorded on other Naks. Newer and top condition tapes have a much closer to “normal” THD. Because of the unique ABLE calibration, I wonder if this is normal, as the deck manipulates bias, eq, & level to produce extraordinary flat response, with some sacrifice of THD in the process. Anyone with an idea on this? Perry Sent from my iPhone From naktalk at lists.naks.com Tue Oct 19 16:57:13 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Perry.nak via Naktalk) Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2021 10:57:13 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] More 1000zxl information Message-ID: I made a small discovery this morning. When the deck is cold, first turned on, the THD values are normal. If I keep the T-100 on the THD display, I can watch the values rise as it warms up. A TDK D started at 0.7%, which is normal. While recording, I can watch the THD steadily rise to over 2.3%!!! If I turn the recording off, but leave the deck in idle for 20 minutes, and start the recording again, it started out at .9% and then again as it ran, slowly rose up to over 2% again. I would assume something is definitely heating up and drifting in the recording chain, so my freeze spray should help. Since it is both channels simultaneously, I will assume it is an IC that both have in common. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!!! Perry Sent from my iPhone From naktalk at lists.naks.com Tue Oct 19 17:15:09 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Joy-Ell & Rainer via Naktalk) Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2021 11:15:09 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] More 1000zxl information In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1634656509.vof036apwk8gwosg@webmail.sasktel.net> Maybe try recalibrating when it's warm and the distortion is higher? Might give some clues as to where the problem is. Cheers, Rainer On Tue, 19 Oct 2021 10:57:13 -0400, "Perry.nak via Naktalk" wrote: I made a small discovery this morning. When the deck is cold, first turned on, the THD values are normal. If I keep the T-100 on the THD display, I can watch the values rise as it warms up. A TDK D started at 0.7%, which is normal. While recording, I can watch the THD steadily rise to over 2.3%!!! If I turn the recording off, but leave the deck in idle for 20 minutes, and start the recording again, it started out at .9% and then again as it ran, slowly rose up to over 2% again. I would assume something is definitely heating up and drifting in the recording chain, so my freeze spray should help. Since it is both channels simultaneously, I will assume it is an IC that both have in common. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!!! Perry Sent from my iPhone ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= From naktalk at lists.naks.com Tue Oct 19 18:50:11 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Perry.nak via Naktalk) Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2021 12:50:11 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] 1000zxl THD issue solved Message-ID: <8AC056C7-BAF9-4DD4-9790-08E5CA5CB0FB@comcast.net> Just to close this up, armed with my handy can of freeze spray and assuming it was something that both channels had in common on the record side, I quickly found that Q823, a 2SD471 on the -12V side of the erase head current was the cause. THD now matches all my other Naks. Sent from my iPhone From naktalk at lists.naks.com Tue Oct 19 15:03:47 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Terry Jolliffe via Naktalk) Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2021 13:03:47 +0000 Subject: [naktalk] Nakamichi service in Australia Message-ID: Hi Naktalkers, Having just acquired a Nak 680 in need of service, I'd like to reach out for up-to-date suggestions on anyone in Australia, particularly New South Wales, who can service/repair Nakamichi decks or else refer me to someone who does? So far I know of: * Len Wallis Audio in Sydney. * Russell Storey of Stones Sound Studio - told me he's not accepting any new jobs. * John Gipps - ? * Bala Ganesh Chandra - ? Cheers, Terry Jolliffe -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I didn't have to perform the calibration very often since I was using the same tapes but the other day I ran through the calibration procedure and it worked fine. The counter was also working. Shortly after the counter quit. Then the following happened... > > The long story of what happens trying to calibrate with inop counter... > > Start with azimuth get no reading on any of the three LED lights but when switching to source then back to tape, the LED will light up as it should for a couple seconds. Long enough for me to get it adjusted. Then the light/LED goes out. > Then switch to the 400hz position. Same thing. You get nothing but switching to source you get the tone, and see it on the VU meters, then switch back to tape and get the tone and meter reading for only for a second or so, but long enough to tell if the setting is correct or not. > Next is the 15K tone. That's a lot tougher to figure out however I can get it adjusted. > Next hit the reset button which the calibration is now cancelled and the tape rewinds back to zero/0000, but in my case the counter is already at 0000. > > So I have two questions, does the counter need to operate for the entire calibration procedure to operate properly? > > Next question, since the tapes operate fine, only the counter is defective, I know the transport light/lamp must be working so I was thinking the IC on the counter board may be bad. 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Cheers, Terry Jolliffe -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Wed Oct 20 16:41:39 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Bob Naylor via Naktalk) Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2021 10:41:39 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] ZX-7 Calibration In-Reply-To: <116178F6-B521-414E-B625-2A1AC207A96E@comcast.net> References: <116178F6-B521-414E-B625-2A1AC207A96E@comcast.net> Message-ID: Hi Perry, Tapes will record fine without stopping. In source mode the 400hz tone in constant/continuous. The tone only disappears when in "tape" mode and at that time is not recorded. The azimuth tone is fine in source mode. The 400hz tone is fine in source mode. It disappears only in tape mode. I do have a "source/tape" mode switch problem. Many times I've sprayed a deoxit equivalent into it from the front Connections when switched to "tape" can be intermittent. Seems to help a little but sometimes will have to operatee the switch back and forth several times. Not during calibration, when recording music, if there's a problem with the tape mode position it does not effect the recording at all. Only the music output. Thank you for your help. Bob N On Tue, Oct 19, 2021 at 8:45 AM Perry.nak via Naktalk < naktalk at lists.naks.com> wrote: > > Hi Bob, > No, the counter absolutely does not need to work to manually calibrate a > tape on the ZX-7. It is only needed to Stop at 0000 at the end. When you > calibrated that tape did it record well from end to to end? If it did not, > then I would say it sounds to me like you are losing your bias, probably > orange caps and/or the 4.7uF cap in the oscillator circuit. Obviously if it > made a great recoding it is fine. > > If the recording was fine, then you may be losing your 400Hz internal > tone, which is also usually a single orange cap. The azimuth calibration > LEDs will only work if the recording of the 400Hz tone is strong enough for > the comparator to work. > > If in Source, the 400Hz tone stays on for a few minutes then it is fine. > > The most common cause of this is a problematic Tape/Source switch. The > switch has to be solidly conducting in Tape to operate properly. > > You can check the Azimuth switch contact to the logic chip by putting the > deck in Rec Pause. If it starts to record and allows azimuth calibration > when the Azimuth button is pressed, then it is fine. > > After those checks, anything else gets a bit more complicated. As you > mentioned, I doubt the counter bulb is the problem, or of course, the deck > would not play or record a tape at all, so the logic is good, seeing pulses > and allowing the transport to operate. The last time I ran in to a counter > not counting but mechanically was good, the counter reset signal was a > constant “on”, so it was always 0000. I can’t recall what the cause was, > but it was not the logic chip. > > Perry > Sent from my iPhone > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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So far I know of:   *  Len Wallis Audio in Sydney.   *  Russell Storey of Stones Sound Studio - told me he's not accepting any new jobs.   *  John Gipps - ?   *  Bala Ganesh Chandra - ? Cheers, Terry Jolliffe -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Fri Oct 29 04:55:48 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Joy-Ell & Rainer via Naktalk) Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2021 22:55:48 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] Dragon 4066 replacement relay boards Message-ID: <1635476148.qomwhpsi0co4kgww@webmail.sasktel.net> Hello Dragon owners :) I have had a batch of boards made up to replace the 2 4066 chips in the Dragon with relays. The price would be about 80 USD for the pair if there is enough interest. I'm looking at maybe assembling some over the Christmas holidays. Anyone interested ? Cheers, Rainer S.  (80stech) From naktalk at lists.naks.com Fri Oct 29 07:00:56 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Wouter Heijke via Naktalk) Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2021 07:00:56 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [naktalk] Dragon 4066 replacement relay boards In-Reply-To: <1635476148.qomwhpsi0co4kgww@webmail.sasktel.net> References: <1635476148.qomwhpsi0co4kgww@webmail.sasktel.net> Message-ID: <1373748421.97353.1635483656581@ox-webmail.xs4all.nl> hi Rainer, What is the advantage of changing to relays? Maybe i missed some discussion :-) Wouter > Op 29-10-2021 04:55 schreef Joy-Ell & Rainer via Naktalk : > > > Hello Dragon owners :) > I have had a batch of boards made up to replace the 2 4066 chips in the Dragon with relays. The price would be about 80 USD for the pair if there is enough interest. I'm looking at maybe assembling some over the Christmas holidays. Anyone interested ? > > Cheers, > Rainer S.  (80stech) > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= From naktalk at lists.naks.com Fri Oct 29 07:26:22 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Bala Ganesh Chandra via Naktalk) Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2021 15:26:22 +1000 Subject: [naktalk] Dragon 4066 replacement relay boards In-Reply-To: <1373748421.97353.1635483656581@ox-webmail.xs4all.nl> References: <1373748421.97353.1635483656581@ox-webmail.xs4all.nl> Message-ID: <1E3D8578-05F2-40F6-A858-D5463C847A65@yahoo.com> Following this discussion with interest. Kind Regards, Bala Ganesh > On 29 Oct 2021, at 3:01 pm, Wouter Heijke via Naktalk wrote: > > hi Rainer, > What is the advantage of changing to relays? > Maybe i missed some discussion :-) > Wouter > >> Op 29-10-2021 04:55 schreef Joy-Ell & Rainer via Naktalk : >> >> >> Hello Dragon owners :) >> I have had a batch of boards made up to replace the 2 4066 chips in the Dragon with relays. The price would be about 80 USD for the pair if there is enough interest. I'm looking at maybe assembling some over the Christmas holidays. Anyone interested ? >> >> Cheers, >> Rainer S. (80stech) >> ========---------------------------------------------------------========= >> Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com >> ========---------------------------------------------------------========= >> Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist >> Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >> ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= From naktalk at lists.naks.com Fri Oct 29 08:13:34 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Joy-Ell & Rainer via Naktalk) Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2021 02:13:34 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] Fwd: Re: Dragon 4066 replacement relay boards Message-ID: <1635488014.fsnz0aet8gcg8wow@webmail.sasktel.net> Hi Wouter :) The belief is that the 4066 "electronic" switch affects the quality of the sound passing through it. For sure it distorts the signal to some degree but not everyone would be able to hear the difference or even agree that it's a problem. Changing to relays eliminates the distortion because it's a direct contact. Cheers, Rainer On Fri, 29 Oct 2021 07:00:56 +0200 (CEST), Wouter Heijke via Naktalk wrote: hi Rainer, What is the advantage of changing to relays? Maybe i missed some discussion :-) Wouter > Op 29-10-2021 04:55 schreef Joy-Ell & Rainer via Naktalk : > > > Hello Dragon owners :) > I have had a batch of boards made up to replace the 2 4066 chips in the Dragon with relays. The price would be about 80 USD for the pair if there is enough interest. I'm looking at maybe assembling some over the Christmas holidays. Anyone interested ? > > Cheers, > Rainer S.  (80stech) > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------=========   From naktalk at lists.naks.com Fri Oct 29 08:18:56 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (N.van.wijnen@ziggo.nl via Naktalk) Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2021 08:18:56 +0200 Subject: [naktalk] Dragon 4066 replacement relay boards In-Reply-To: <1635476148.qomwhpsi0co4kgww@webmail.sasktel.net> References: <1635476148.qomwhpsi0co4kgww@webmail.sasktel.net> Message-ID: Hi Rainer. I am interested in your boards, do you have pictures of an example? Best regards Norman van Wijnen Netherlands Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad > Op 29 okt. 2021 om 04:56 heeft Joy-Ell & Rainer via Naktalk het volgende geschreven: > > Hello Dragon owners :) > I have had a batch of boards made up to replace the 2 4066 chips in the Dragon with relays. The price would be about 80 USD for the pair if there is enough interest. I'm looking at maybe assembling some over the Christmas holidays. Anyone interested ? > > Cheers, > Rainer S. (80stech) > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= From naktalk at lists.naks.com Fri Oct 29 09:09:59 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Joy-Ell & Rainer via Naktalk) Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2021 03:09:59 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] Dragon 4066 replacement relay boards In-Reply-To: References: <1635476148.qomwhpsi0co4kgww@webmail.sasktel.net> Message-ID: <1635491399.1a4p6u4wo0cskkow@webmail.sasktel.net> Hi Norman :)  attached is a picture of the relay boards installed in my Dragon.  On Fri, 29 Oct 2021 08:18:56 +0200, "N.van.wijnen at ziggo.nl via Naktalk" wrote: Hi Rainer. I am interested in your boards, do you have pictures of an example? Best regards Norman van Wijnen Netherlands Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad > Op 29 okt. 2021 om 04:56 heeft Joy-Ell & Rainer via Naktalk het volgende geschreven: > > Hello Dragon owners :) > I have had a batch of boards made up to replace the 2 4066 chips in the Dragon with relays. The price would be about 80 USD for the pair if there is enough interest. I'm looking at maybe assembling some over the Christmas holidays. Anyone interested ? > > Cheers, > Rainer S. 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Name: 4066relay.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 1182380 bytes Desc: not available URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Fri Oct 29 23:16:49 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Richard L. Hess via Naktalk) Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2021 17:16:49 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] Dragon 4066 replacement relay boards and 4 CH playback In-Reply-To: <1635491399.1a4p6u4wo0cskkow@webmail.sasktel.net> References: <1635476148.qomwhpsi0co4kgww@webmail.sasktel.net> <1635491399.1a4p6u4wo0cskkow@webmail.sasktel.net> Message-ID: <6dbd25fa-0fc1-9057-1ee2-c787b8cc832c@richardhess.com> Hi, Rainer, This looks like a beautiful mod and if you can hear the difference, then I'm sure it's worth it. Looking at the circuit, the 4066 should be quite low distortion as the current through it is very small. The load is 100 k ohms, I think, and the voltage swing needs to be kept low because otherwise the 4066 will break through. While looking at the schematic, has anyone tried using the Dragon for 4 CH tape playback? I've had to do that once in a while and I have some lousy-sounding machines (compared to the Dragon) but that can run from 15/32 to 7.5 in/s--made by DataTape--I would like to be able to use a Dragon for playback of the odd 4 CH cassette tape that I am asked to transfer. My thought was to remove and shrink the remote DIN connector on one machine, installing a 5-pin DIN connector and wiring each of the audio channels on that to the high side of C503, C506, C603, and C606 through a buildout resistor. This would provide the integrated head output flat. From the DIN connector, I was thinking of going to the four instrument inputs of my RME Fireface UFX II and then doing software Cassette Standard EQ curves. Any thoughts? Cheers, Richard On 2021-10-29 3:09 a.m., Joy-Ell & Rainer via Naktalk wrote: > Hi Norman :)  attached is a picture of the relay boards installed in my Dragon. > > On Fri, 29 Oct 2021 08:18:56 +0200,"N.van.wijnen at ziggo.nl via Naktalk" wrote: > > Hi Rainer. > I am interested in your boards, do you have pictures of an example? > Best regards > Norman van Wijnen > Netherlands > > Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad > >> Op 29 okt. 2021 om 04:56 heeft Joy-Ell & Rainer via Naktalk het volgende geschreven: >> >> Hello Dragon owners :) >> I have had a batch of boards made up to replace the 2 4066 chips in the Dragon with relays. The price would be about 80 USD for the pair if there is enough interest. I'm looking at maybe assembling some over the Christmas holidays. Anyone interested ? >> >> Cheers, >> Rainer S. (80stech) >> ========---------------------------------------------------------========= >> Also check out the wiki!http://wiki.naks.com >> ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > -- Richard L. Hess email:richard at richardhess.com Aurora, Ontario, Canadahttp://www.richardhess.com/ http://www.richardhess.com/tape/contact.htm Quality tape transfers -- even from hard-to-play tapes. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Sat Oct 30 09:44:16 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Bala Ganesh Chandra via Naktalk) Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2021 17:44:16 +1000 Subject: [naktalk] Dragon 4066 replacement relay boards and 4 CH playback In-Reply-To: <6dbd25fa-0fc1-9057-1ee2-c787b8cc832c@richardhess.com> References: <6dbd25fa-0fc1-9057-1ee2-c787b8cc832c@richardhess.com> Message-ID: <5C84AFA1-A151-49A6-9B59-31A1A232A549@yahoo.com> Hi Richard, That’s a very interesting one. How would they have recorded those tapes in the first place? Kind Regards, Bala Ganesh > On 30 Oct 2021, at 8:11 am, Richard L. Hess via Naktalk wrote: > >  > Hi, Rainer, > > This looks like a beautiful mod and if you can hear the difference, then I'm sure it's worth it. > > Looking at the circuit, the 4066 should be quite low distortion as the current through it is very small. The load is 100 k ohms, I think, and the voltage swing needs to be kept low because otherwise the 4066 will break through. > > While looking at the schematic, has anyone tried using the Dragon for 4 CH tape playback? I've had to do that once in a while and I have some lousy-sounding machines (compared to the Dragon) but that can run from 15/32 to 7.5 in/s--made by DataTape--I would like to be able to use a Dragon for playback of the odd 4 CH cassette tape that I am asked to transfer. My thought was to remove and shrink the remote DIN connector on one machine, installing a 5-pin DIN connector and wiring each of the audio channels on that to the high side of C503, C506, C603, and C606 through a buildout resistor. This would provide the integrated head output flat. > > From the DIN connector, I was thinking of going to the four instrument inputs of my RME Fireface UFX II and then doing software Cassette Standard EQ curves. > > Any thoughts? > > Cheers, > > Richard > > On 2021-10-29 3:09 a.m., Joy-Ell & Rainer via Naktalk wrote: >> Hi Norman :) attached is a picture of the relay boards installed in my Dragon. >> >> On Fri, 29 Oct 2021 08:18:56 +0200, "N.van.wijnen at ziggo.nl via Naktalk" wrote: >> >> Hi Rainer. >> I am interested in your boards, do you have pictures of an example? >> Best regards >> Norman van Wijnen >> Netherlands >> >> Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad >> >>> Op 29 okt. 2021 om 04:56 heeft Joy-Ell & Rainer via Naktalk het volgende geschreven: >>> >>> Hello Dragon owners :) >>> I have had a batch of boards made up to replace the 2 4066 chips in the Dragon with relays. The price would be about 80 USD for the pair if there is enough interest. I'm looking at maybe assembling some over the Christmas holidays. Anyone interested ? >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Rainer S. (80stech) >>> ========---------------------------------------------------------========= >>> Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com >>> ========---------------------------------------------------------========= >> > -- > Richard L. Hess email: richard at richardhess.com > Aurora, Ontario, Canada http://www.richardhess.com/ > http://www.richardhess.com/tape/contact.htm > Quality tape transfers -- even from hard-to-play tapes. > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Ali On Sat, Oct 30, 2021 at 3:51 AM Bala Ganesh Chandra via Naktalk < naktalk at lists.naks.com> wrote: > Hi Richard, > > That’s a very interesting one. How would they have recorded those tapes in > the first place? > > Kind Regards, > Bala Ganesh > > On 30 Oct 2021, at 8:11 am, Richard L. Hess via Naktalk < > naktalk at lists.naks.com> wrote: > >  > > Hi, Rainer, > > This looks like a beautiful mod and if you can hear the difference, then > I'm sure it's worth it. > > Looking at the circuit, the 4066 should be quite low distortion as the > current through it is very small. The load is 100 k ohms, I think, and the > voltage swing needs to be kept low because otherwise the 4066 will break > through. > > While looking at the schematic, has anyone tried using the Dragon for 4 CH > tape playback? I've had to do that once in a while and I have some > lousy-sounding machines (compared to the Dragon) but that can run from > 15/32 to 7.5 in/s--made by DataTape--I would like to be able to use a > Dragon for playback of the odd 4 CH cassette tape that I am asked to > transfer. My thought was to remove and shrink the remote DIN connector on > one machine, installing a 5-pin DIN connector and wiring each of the audio > channels on that to the high side of C503, C506, C603, and C606 through a > buildout resistor. This would provide the integrated head output flat. > > From the DIN connector, I was thinking of going to the four instrument > inputs of my RME Fireface UFX II and then doing software Cassette Standard > EQ curves. > > Any thoughts? > > Cheers, > > Richard > On 2021-10-29 3:09 a.m., Joy-Ell & Rainer via Naktalk wrote: > > Hi Norman :) attached is a picture of the relay boards installed in my Dragon. > > On Fri, 29 Oct 2021 08:18:56 +0200, "N.van.wijnen at ziggo.nl via Naktalk" wrote: > > Hi Rainer. > I am interested in your boards, do you have pictures of an example? > Best regards > Norman van Wijnen > Netherlands > > Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad > > > Op 29 okt. 2021 om 04:56 heeft Joy-Ell & Rainer via Naktalk het volgende geschreven: > > Hello Dragon owners :) > I have had a batch of boards made up to replace the 2 4066 chips in the Dragon with relays. The price would be about 80 USD for the pair if there is enough interest. I'm looking at maybe assembling some over the Christmas holidays. Anyone interested ? > > Cheers, > Rainer S. (80stech) > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > > -- > Richard L. Hess email: richard at richardhess.com > Aurora, Ontario, Canada http://www.richardhess.com/http://www.richardhess.com/tape/contact.htm > Quality tape transfers -- even from hard-to-play tapes. > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Also when pressing eject it always presents the B side out which seems strange to me but could be normal? How could I get some help with this. Love my deck- can't afford to have anyone fix it but myself....😆 Really appreciate any help you could provide. Thanks for your time and help. Cheers, Kevin Delaney Nanoose Bay, BC Canada V9P9J9 Hi Kevin, I am the maintainer of naks. I cannot answer your question but folks on the associated naktalk mailinglist sure can. You can join the list or i can add you if you want if you dont know how to do this. Kind regards, Wouter Op 27-10-2021 18:05 schreef Kevin Delaney : Show quoted text Hi Wouter, I don't seem to be getting anywhere joining Naktalk. Maybe you could help me get signed up so I may access the forum. Thanks Wouter. Kevin Delaney Nanoose Bay, BC nauticalhome at gmail.com Show quoted text -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Sun Oct 31 01:34:36 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (kannan srinivasaraghavan via Naktalk) Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2021 23:34:36 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [naktalk] Dragon 4066 replacement relay boards and 4 CH playback In-Reply-To: <6dbd25fa-0fc1-9057-1ee2-c787b8cc832c@richardhess.com> References: <1635476148.qomwhpsi0co4kgww@webmail.sasktel.net> <1635491399.1a4p6u4wo0cskkow@webmail.sasktel.net> <6dbd25fa-0fc1-9057-1ee2-c787b8cc832c@richardhess.com> Message-ID: <269327113.2451813.1635636876427@mail.yahoo.com> Richard Dragon's Playback amplifiers before 4066 switch are alive and amplifying all that goes through the head. Tap it before 4066 - for the reverse play head R/L channels but with a buffer/amplifier as the signal level is low but already equalized for Cassette Tape standard without 70USec HF cut If you get dragon parts board you can also configure the Dolby circuits to line out for the two additional channels. you have to make sure to shield/earth lines for avoiding noise for the reverse channels. If the Tape is recorded on forward mode - should play nicelyRelay mod - can some one with relay board test the distortion compared to 4066 and show the benefits!Cassette Tapes are not that low distortion like CD as as sources go - Many Naks use 4066 at many places and i do not see great benefits compared replacing old dried out coupling/ PSU filter caps in any Nak recorders.kannan On Friday, October 29, 2021, 05:11:11 PM CDT, Richard L. Hess via Naktalk wrote: Hi, Rainer, This looks like a beautiful mod and if you can hear the difference, then I'm sure it's worth it. Looking at the circuit, the 4066 should be quite low distortion as the current through it is very small. The load is 100 k ohms, I think, and the voltage swing needs to be kept low because otherwise the 4066 will break through. While looking at the schematic, has anyone tried using the Dragon for 4 CH tape playback? I've had to do that once in a while and I have some lousy-sounding machines (compared to the Dragon) but that can run from 15/32 to 7.5 in/s--made by DataTape--I would like to be able to use a Dragon for playback of the odd 4 CH cassette tape that I am asked to transfer. My thought was to remove and shrink the remote DIN connector on one machine, installing a 5-pin DIN connector and wiring each of the audio channels on that to the high side of C503, C506, C603, and C606 through a buildout resistor. This would provide the integrated head output flat. From the DIN connector, I was thinking of going to the four instrument inputs of my RME Fireface UFX II and then doing software Cassette Standard EQ curves. Any thoughts? Cheers, Richard On 2021-10-29 3:09 a.m., Joy-Ell & Rainer via Naktalk wrote: Hi Norman :)  attached is a picture of the relay boards installed in my Dragon.  On Fri, 29 Oct 2021 08:18:56 +0200, "N.van.wijnen at ziggo.nl via Naktalk" wrote: Hi Rainer. I am interested in your boards, do you have pictures of an example? Best regards Norman van Wijnen Netherlands Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad Op 29 okt. 2021 om 04:56 heeft Joy-Ell & Rainer via Naktalk het volgende geschreven:Hello Dragon owners :)I have had a batch of boards made up to replace the 2 4066 chips in the Dragon with relays. The price would be about 80 USD for the pair if there is enough interest. I'm looking at maybe assembling some over the Christmas holidays. Anyone interested ?Cheers,Rainer S. 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Also when pressing eject it always presents the B side out which seems strange to me but could be normal. Love my deck- can't afford to have anyone fix it but myself....😆 Thanks for any help! K. Delaney Nanoose Bay -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Sun Oct 31 20:30:38 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Tom Brucker via Naktalk) Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2021 14:30:38 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Dragon 4066 replacement relay boards In-Reply-To: References: <1635476148.qomwhpsi0co4kgww@webmail.sasktel.net> Message-ID: The ANT mod replaces the two head switching 4066 with an fet equivalent, and to my ears, it does add a degree of naturalness to the sound. Relays ought to sound just as good. ANT mod is no,longer available, but you can read about it on TapeHeads On Fri, Oct 29, 2021, 1:19 AM N.van.wijnen at ziggo.nl via Naktalk < naktalk at lists.naks.com> wrote: > Hi Rainer. > I am interested in your boards, do you have pictures of an example? > Best regards > Norman van Wijnen > Netherlands > > Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad > > > Op 29 okt. 2021 om 04:56 heeft Joy-Ell & Rainer via Naktalk < > naktalk at lists.naks.com> het volgende geschreven: > > > > Hello Dragon owners :) > > I have had a batch of boards made up to replace the 2 4066 chips in the > Dragon with relays. The price would be about 80 USD for the pair if there > is enough interest. I'm looking at maybe assembling some over the > Christmas holidays. Anyone interested ? > > > > Cheers, > > Rainer S. 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Get Outlook for Android ________________________________ From: Naktalk on behalf of john kojic via Naktalk Sent: Monday, November 1, 2021 5:15:28 PM To: Aliben Clark ; Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks Subject: Re: [naktalk] Head replacement for Nakamichi 700 https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/254761122537?hash=item3b50f23ae9:g:mpMAAOSwgntc4E9U [https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/mpMAAOSwgntc4E9U/s-l400.jpg] Nakamichi 1000 Tri-Tracer y 700 Tri-Tracer "Head New without use original" | eBay Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for Nakamichi 1000 Tri-Tracer y 700 Tri-Tracer "Head New without use original" at the best online prices at eBay! Free delivery for many products! www.ebay.co.uk ________________________________ From: Naktalk on behalf of Aliben Clark via Naktalk Sent: 01 November 2021 01:09 To: naktalk at lists.naks.com Subject: [naktalk] Head replacement for Nakamichi 700 Hi everyone, i am looking head replacement for Nakamichi 700. 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URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Mon Nov 1 19:05:25 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Richard L. Hess via Naktalk) Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2021 14:05:25 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] Dragon 4066 replacement relay boards and 4 CH playback In-Reply-To: <269327113.2451813.1635636876427@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1635476148.qomwhpsi0co4kgww@webmail.sasktel.net> <1635491399.1a4p6u4wo0cskkow@webmail.sasktel.net> <6dbd25fa-0fc1-9057-1ee2-c787b8cc832c@richardhess.com> <269327113.2451813.1635636876427@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <61f95b66-766f-e998-8c65-b03210388e7f@richardhess.com> Thank you all for the kind comments about my idea to use the Dragon as a four channel tape playback system. Bala, these tapes are recorded in many ways on machines with 4-channel recording capabilities and at a variety of speeds. Examples are "Porta-Studio" machines (many of which ran at 3.75 in/s), machines used for slide show synch (often referred to as 3-channel machines: stereo audio plus cue track), court reporter voice logging machines.One Sony  model I'm familiar with has 8 mic inputs, recorded two to a track. I forget if it runs at 15/16 or 15/32. While many of these tapes can be adequately transferred on my DataTape machines, the ones with stereo or multitrack music suffer compared to a Dragon. Speed changes are most easily handled in the software. Daniel, had and sold both a Tascam Syncaset 234 and 238 as with the limited use I'd put this, almost every time I wanted to use one of the machines, they needed service! They also ran at 3.75 in/s. Kannan, no need for a buffer/booster amp as I have both and RME Fireface UFX and a UFX II. The UFX has four mic/instrument inputs with 800 k ohm input impedance and lots of clean gain. The UFX II increase the input impedance to 1 megohm. Two of my Dragons sit adjacent to the two interfaces, so it's only a short, premade DIN 5 to RCA cable with RCA to TS adapters on it to connect directly to the interface. It's just changing one jack (and tucking the original remote control jack inside) and running four cables from before the 4066s to the jack. As an aside, I don't use the built-in Dolby B/C processors as I find I can calibrate (through level and/or EQ) an external NR processor to a reduced level of pumping. I have two four-channel Dolby 422 units that have B, C, and S decoders in them. There are also the Anaxwaves software decoders for Dolby B & C as well as dbx I and II. Cheers, Richard On 2021-10-30 7:34 p.m., kannan srinivasaraghavan wrote: > Richard > Dragon's Playback amplifiers before 4066 switch are alive and > amplifying all that goes through the head. Tap it before 4066 - for > the reverse play head R/L channels but with a buffer/amplifier as the > signal level is low but already equalized for Cassette Tape standard > without 70USec HF cut > If you get dragon parts board you can also configure the Dolby > circuits to line out for the two additional channels. you have to make > sure to shield/earth lines for avoiding noise for the reverse > channels. If the Tape is recorded on forward mode - should play nicely > Relay mod - can some one with relay board test the distortion compared > to 4066 and show the benefits! > Cassette Tapes are not that low distortion like CD as as sources go - > Many Naks use 4066 at many places and i do not see great benefits > compared replacing old dried out coupling/ PSU filter caps in any Nak > recorders. > kannan > > On Friday, October 29, 2021, 05:11:11 PM CDT, Richard L. Hess via > Naktalk wrote: > > > Hi, Rainer, > > This looks like a beautiful mod and if you can hear the difference, > then I'm sure it's worth it. > > Looking at the circuit, the 4066 should be quite low distortion as the > current through it is very small. The load is 100 k ohms, I think, and > the voltage swing needs to be kept low because otherwise the 4066 will > break through. > > While looking at the schematic, has anyone tried using the Dragon for > 4 CH tape playback? I've had to do that once in a while and I have > some lousy-sounding machines (compared to the Dragon) but that can run > from 15/32 to 7.5 in/s--made by DataTape--I would like to be able to > use a Dragon for playback of the odd 4 CH cassette tape that I am > asked to transfer. My thought was to remove and shrink the remote DIN > connector on one machine, installing a 5-pin DIN connector and wiring > each of the audio channels on that to the high side of C503, C506, > C603, and C606 through a buildout resistor. This would provide the > integrated head output flat. > > From the DIN connector, I was thinking of going to the four instrument > inputs of my RME Fireface UFX II and then doing software Cassette > Standard EQ curves. > > Any thoughts? > > Cheers, > > Richard > > On 2021-10-29 3:09 a.m., Joy-Ell & Rainer via Naktalk wrote: >> Hi Norman :)  attached is a picture of the relay boards installed in my Dragon. >> >> On Fri, 29 Oct 2021 08:18:56 +0200,"N.van.wijnen at ziggo.nl via Naktalk" wrote: >> >> Hi Rainer. >> I am interested in your boards, do you have pictures of an example? >> Best regards >> Norman van Wijnen >> Netherlands >> >> Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad >> >>> Op 29 okt. 2021 om 04:56 heeft Joy-Ell & Rainer via Naktalk het >>> volgende geschreven: Hello Dragon owners :) I have had a batch of >>> boards made up to replace the 2 4066 chips in the Dragon with >>> relays. The price would be about 80 USD for the pair if there is >>> enough interest. I'm looking at maybe assembling some over the >>> Christmas holidays. Anyone interested ? Cheers, Rainer S. (80stech) >>> ========---------------------------------------------------------========= >>> Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com >>> >>> ========---------------------------------------------------------========= >> > -- > Richard L. Hess email:richard at richardhess.com > Aurora, Ontario, Canadahttp://www.richardhess.com/ > http://www.richardhess.com/tape/contact.htm > Quality tape transfers -- even from hard-to-play tapes. > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= >           Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -- Richard L. 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Get Outlook for Android ________________________________ From: Naktalk on behalf of john kojic via Naktalk Sent: Monday, November 1, 2021 5:15:28 PM To: Aliben Clark ; Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks Subject: Re: [naktalk] Head replacement for Nakamichi 700 https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/254761122537?hash=item3b50f23ae9:g:mpMAAOSwgntc4E9U [https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/mpMAAOSwgntc4E9U/s-l400.jpg] Nakamichi 1000 Tri-Tracer y 700 Tri-Tracer "Head New without use original" | eBay Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for Nakamichi 1000 Tri-Tracer y 700 Tri-Tracer "Head New without use original" at the best online prices at eBay! Free delivery for many products! www.ebay.co.uk ________________________________ From: Naktalk on behalf of Aliben Clark via Naktalk Sent: 01 November 2021 01:09 To: naktalk at lists.naks.com Subject: [naktalk] Head replacement for Nakamichi 700 Hi everyone, i am looking head replacement for Nakamichi 700. Please hit me up if anyone want to sell the parts. Thank you. ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= [https://ipmcdn.avast.com/images/icons/icon-envelope-tick-round-orange-animated-no-repeat-v1.gif] Virus-free. www.avast.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Mon Nov 1 20:37:38 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (RMSUK@icloud.com via Naktalk) Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2021 19:37:38 +0000 Subject: [naktalk] Head replacement for Nakamichi 700 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Good point; I agree Terry. Lapping the record/PB heads worked a treat on our battered 1971 ex bikers pub background rock music-making TEAC A3300-10, for which I paid the princely sum of 20 quid 10 years ago. It was like… wow… where did that dynamic range come from?! ________________________________ From: Terry Barton Sent: Monday, November 1, 2021 6:18:02 PM To: RMSUK at icloud.com ; Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks ; john kojic ; Aliben Clark Subject: Re: [naktalk] Head replacement for Nakamichi 700 Yes true, but re-lapping can achieve an awful lot, especially when the price of just one head is approaching the value of the deck itself. Get Outlook for Android ________________________________ From: RMSUK at icloud.com Sent: Monday, November 1, 2021 6:06:56 PM To: Terry Barton ; Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks ; john kojic ; Aliben Clark Subject: Re: [naktalk] Head replacement for Nakamichi 700 Ridiculous. However… how many unused Nakamichi heads are there left in the world? 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Free delivery for many products! www.ebay.co.uk ________________________________ From: Naktalk on behalf of Aliben Clark via Naktalk Sent: 01 November 2021 01:09 To: naktalk at lists.naks.com Subject: [naktalk] Head replacement for Nakamichi 700 Hi everyone, i am looking head replacement for Nakamichi 700. Please hit me up if anyone want to sell the parts. Thank you. ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= [https://ipmcdn.avast.com/images/icons/icon-envelope-tick-round-orange-animated-no-repeat-v1.gif] Virus-free. www.avast.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Mon Nov 1 22:44:39 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (N.van.wijnen@ziggo.nl via Naktalk) Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2021 22:44:39 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] Head replacement for Nakamichi 700 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <514DA1B6-46C4-46EB-B0B7-7CBCEFD2E183@ziggo.nl> Hi, I think i can sell a new head for your machine but at this moment i am rebuilding my shop so you have to wait some time. I have some new playback heads for the 700/1000 in stock. Best regards Norman van Wijnen Netherlands Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad > Op 1 nov. 2021 om 20:44 heeft RMSUK at icloud.com via Naktalk het volgende geschreven: > >  > Good point; I agree Terry. Lapping the record/PB heads worked a treat on our battered 1971 ex bikers pub background rock music-making TEAC A3300-10, for which I paid the princely sum of 20 quid 10 years ago. It was like… wow… where did that dynamic range come from?! > From: Terry Barton > Sent: Monday, November 1, 2021 6:18:02 PM > To: RMSUK at icloud.com ; Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks ; john kojic ; Aliben Clark > Subject: Re: [naktalk] Head replacement for Nakamichi 700 > > Yes true, but re-lapping can achieve an awful lot, especially when the price of just one head is approaching the value of the deck itself. > > Get Outlook for Android > From: RMSUK at icloud.com > Sent: Monday, November 1, 2021 6:06:56 PM > To: Terry Barton ; Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks ; john kojic ; Aliben Clark > Subject: Re: [naktalk] Head replacement for Nakamichi 700 > > Ridiculous. However… how many unused Nakamichi heads are there left in the world? How much is your Nakamichi worth to you without it? > From: Naktalk on behalf of Terry Barton via Naktalk > Sent: Monday, November 1, 2021 5:52:50 PM > To: john kojic ; Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks ; Aliben Clark > Subject: Re: [naktalk] Head replacement for Nakamichi 700 > > Seriously, HOW MUCH?? > > Get Outlook for Android > From: Naktalk on behalf of john kojic via Naktalk > Sent: Monday, November 1, 2021 5:15:28 PM > To: Aliben Clark ; Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > Subject: Re: [naktalk] Head replacement for Nakamichi 700 > > https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/254761122537?hash=item3b50f23ae9:g:mpMAAOSwgntc4E9U > > Nakamichi 1000 Tri-Tracer y 700 Tri-Tracer "Head New without use original" | eBay > Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for Nakamichi 1000 Tri-Tracer y 700 Tri-Tracer "Head New without use original" at the best online prices at eBay! Free delivery for many products! > www.ebay.co.uk > > > From: Naktalk on behalf of Aliben Clark via Naktalk > Sent: 01 November 2021 01:09 > To: naktalk at lists.naks.com > Subject: [naktalk] Head replacement for Nakamichi 700 > > Hi everyone, i am looking head replacement for Nakamichi 700. 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On Mon, Nov 1, 2021, 4:44 PM N.van.wijnen at ziggo.nl via Naktalk < naktalk at lists.naks.com> wrote: > Hi, > I think i can sell a new head for your machine but at this moment i am > rebuilding my shop so you have to wait some time. > I have some new playback heads for the 700/1000 in stock. > Best regards > Norman van Wijnen > Netherlands > > Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad > > Op 1 nov. 2021 om 20:44 heeft RMSUK at icloud.com via Naktalk < > naktalk at lists.naks.com> het volgende geschreven: > >  > Good point; I agree Terry. Lapping the record/PB heads worked a treat on > our battered 1971 ex bikers pub background rock music-making TEAC A3300-10, > for which I paid the princely sum of 20 quid 10 years ago. It was like… > wow… where did that dynamic range come from?! > ------------------------------ > *From:* Terry Barton > *Sent:* Monday, November 1, 2021 6:18:02 PM > *To:* RMSUK at icloud.com ; Talk about Nakamichi Cassette > Decks ; john kojic ; > Aliben Clark > *Subject:* Re: [naktalk] Head replacement for Nakamichi 700 > > Yes true, but re-lapping can achieve an awful lot, especially when the > price of just one head is approaching the value of the deck itself. > > Get Outlook for Android > ------------------------------ > *From:* RMSUK at icloud.com > *Sent:* Monday, November 1, 2021 6:06:56 PM > *To:* Terry Barton ; Talk about Nakamichi > Cassette Decks ; john kojic < > johnnykojic at hotmail.com>; Aliben Clark > *Subject:* Re: [naktalk] Head replacement for Nakamichi 700 > > Ridiculous. However… how many unused Nakamichi heads are there left in the > world? How much is your Nakamichi worth to you without it? > ------------------------------ > *From:* Naktalk on behalf of Terry > Barton via Naktalk > *Sent:* Monday, November 1, 2021 5:52:50 PM > *To:* john kojic ; Talk about Nakamichi Cassette > Decks ; Aliben Clark > > *Subject:* Re: [naktalk] Head replacement for Nakamichi 700 > > Seriously, HOW MUCH?? > > Get Outlook for Android > ------------------------------ > *From:* Naktalk on behalf of john kojic > via Naktalk > *Sent:* Monday, November 1, 2021 5:15:28 PM > *To:* Aliben Clark ; Talk about Nakamichi > Cassette Decks > *Subject:* Re: [naktalk] Head replacement for Nakamichi 700 > > > https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/254761122537?hash=item3b50f23ae9:g:mpMAAOSwgntc4E9U > > > Nakamichi 1000 Tri-Tracer y 700 Tri-Tracer "Head New without use original" > | eBay > > Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for Nakamichi > 1000 Tri-Tracer y 700 Tri-Tracer "Head New without use original" at the > best online prices at eBay! Free delivery for many products! > www.ebay.co.uk > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Naktalk on behalf of Aliben > Clark via Naktalk > *Sent:* 01 November 2021 01:09 > *To:* naktalk at lists.naks.com > *Subject:* [naktalk] Head replacement for Nakamichi 700 > > Hi everyone, i am looking head replacement for Nakamichi 700. Please hit > me up if anyone want to sell the parts. > > Thank you. > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > > Virus-free. > www.avast.com > > <#m_-2169146177636234756_x_x_x_x_DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Tue Nov 2 08:06:51 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Gerhard Wartha via Naktalk) Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2021 08:06:51 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] Head replacement for Nakamichi 700 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I have about 5psc. 700/1000 NOS heads plus 2 new head bases, And one NOS N700. I did sell some on my SANSUI Website and on Ebay. But the better Idea is to sell or exchange them inside Japan. The last price for a N700 play head was euro 600.- sold to Moscow. Have a look on Ebay and the SANSUI AU-111 website. https://www.gerhardwartha.com/restore-studio https://www.ebay.de/itm/254896005461 > Am 01.11.2021 um 19:18 schrieb Terry Barton via Naktalk : > > Yes true, but re-lapping can achieve an awful lot, especially when the price of just one head is approaching the value of the deck itself. > > Get Outlook for Android > From: RMSUK at icloud.com > > Sent: Monday, November 1, 2021 6:06:56 PM > To: Terry Barton >; Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks >; john kojic >; Aliben Clark > > Subject: Re: [naktalk] Head replacement for Nakamichi 700 > > Ridiculous. However… how many unused Nakamichi heads are there left in the world? How much is your Nakamichi worth to you without it? > From: Naktalk > on behalf of Terry Barton via Naktalk > > Sent: Monday, November 1, 2021 5:52:50 PM > To: john kojic >; Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks >; Aliben Clark > > Subject: Re: [naktalk] Head replacement for Nakamichi 700 > > Seriously, HOW MUCH?? > > Get Outlook for Android > From: Naktalk > on behalf of john kojic via Naktalk > > Sent: Monday, November 1, 2021 5:15:28 PM > To: Aliben Clark >; Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > > Subject: Re: [naktalk] Head replacement for Nakamichi 700 > > https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/254761122537?hash=item3b50f23ae9:g:mpMAAOSwgntc4E9U > > Nakamichi 1000 Tri-Tracer y 700 Tri-Tracer "Head New without use original" | eBay > Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for Nakamichi 1000 Tri-Tracer y 700 Tri-Tracer "Head New without use original" at the best online prices at eBay! Free delivery for many products! > www.ebay.co.uk > > From: Naktalk on behalf of Aliben Clark via Naktalk > Sent: 01 November 2021 01:09 > To: naktalk at lists.naks.com > Subject: [naktalk] Head replacement for Nakamichi 700 > > Hi everyone, i am looking head replacement for Nakamichi 700. 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How much is your Nakamichi worth to you without it? ________________________________ From: Naktalk on behalf of Terry Barton via Naktalk Sent: Monday, November 1, 2021 5:52:50 PM To: john kojic ; Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks ; Aliben Clark Subject: Re: [naktalk] Head replacement for Nakamichi 700 Seriously, HOW MUCH?? Get Outlook for Android ________________________________ From: Naktalk on behalf of john kojic via Naktalk Sent: Monday, November 1, 2021 5:15:28 PM To: Aliben Clark ; Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks Subject: Re: [naktalk] Head replacement for Nakamichi 700 https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/254761122537?hash=item3b50f23ae9:g:mpMAAOSwgntc4E9U [https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/mpMAAOSwgntc4E9U/s-l400.jpg] Nakamichi 1000 Tri-Tracer y 700 Tri-Tracer "Head New without use original" | eBay Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for Nakamichi 1000 Tri-Tracer y 700 Tri-Tracer "Head New without use original" at the best online prices at eBay! Free delivery for many products! www.ebay.co.uk ________________________________ From: Naktalk on behalf of Aliben Clark via Naktalk Sent: 01 November 2021 01:09 To: naktalk at lists.naks.com Subject: [naktalk] Head replacement for Nakamichi 700 Hi everyone, i am looking head replacement for Nakamichi 700. Please hit me up if anyone want to sell the parts. Thank you. ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= [https://ipmcdn.avast.com/images/icons/icon-envelope-tick-round-orange-animated-no-repeat-v1.gif] Virus-free. www.avast.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Sat Nov 6 00:58:24 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Joy-Ell & Rainer via Naktalk) Date: Fri, 05 Nov 2021 19:58:24 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] TD-700 service Message-ID: <1636156704.wxa7dg5hokogoc8s@webmail.sasktel.net> If anyone needs service or complete refurb on TD-500 and up car decks, I'll be able to take some bookings to be done over Christmas or early in the new year. :) If anyone has a TD-1200 that you don't have the code for I'd be interested in trying to crack that for you!  Cheers, Rainer S.  (80stech) From naktalk at lists.naks.com Sat Nov 6 06:29:14 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Wouter Heijke via Naktalk) Date: Sat, 6 Nov 2021 06:29:14 +0100 (CET) Subject: [naktalk] TD-700 service In-Reply-To: <1636156704.wxa7dg5hokogoc8s@webmail.sasktel.net> References: <1636156704.wxa7dg5hokogoc8s@webmail.sasktel.net> Message-ID: <1548965089.762730.1636176554267@ox-webmail.xs4all.nl> Hey Rainer, That will be a fun Christmas job to do, cracking that code! With all the more complex stuff that is crackable these days this one should be 'easy' one would say... Wouter > Op 06-11-2021 00:58 schreef Joy-Ell & Rainer via Naktalk : > > > If anyone needs service or complete refurb on TD-500 and up car decks, I'll be able to take some bookings to be done over Christmas or early in the new year. :) If anyone has a TD-1200 that you don't have the code for I'd be interested in trying to crack that for you!  > > Cheers, > Rainer S.  (80stech) > From naktalk at lists.naks.com Sat Nov 6 13:42:48 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Joy-Ell & Rainer via Naktalk) Date: Sat, 06 Nov 2021 08:42:48 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] Fwd: Re: TD-700 service Message-ID: <1636202568.bnthl3ezcgs8k884@webmail.sasktel.net> Haha, yes it would be interesting for sure Wouter :) I have too many projects not getting done already but this would be something I could do with my son who will be home from university. He has taken a lot of math, stats and computer science and this would be a hands-on real-world application! I started on writing the code last year for this and he for sure will be able to get that part working in a short time. We might need to come up with a way to get around the waiting period after 3 tries. I was thinking about just having a relay cut and repower the deck but I'm not sure how that would work. I don't have a TD-1200 myself but it sure would be even nicer to have one that we know the code for to test the method.   Cheers, Rainer S.  On Sat, 6 Nov 2021 06:29:14 +0100 (CET), Wouter Heijke via Naktalk wrote: Hey Rainer, That will be a fun Christmas job to do, cracking that code! With all the more complex stuff that is crackable these days this one should be 'easy' one would say... Wouter > Op 06-11-2021 00:58 schreef Joy-Ell & Rainer via Naktalk : > > > If anyone needs service or complete refurb on TD-500 and up car decks, I'll be able to take some bookings to be done over Christmas or early in the new year. :) If anyone has a TD-1200 that you don't have the code for I'd be interested in trying to crack that for you!  > > Cheers, > Rainer S.  (80stech) > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------=========   From naktalk at lists.naks.com Sun Nov 7 05:18:01 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Miroslav Tkachenko via Naktalk) Date: Sun, 7 Nov 2021 04:18:01 +0000 Subject: [naktalk] TD-700 service In-Reply-To: <1548965089.762730.1636176554267@ox-webmail.xs4all.nl> References: <1636156704.wxa7dg5hokogoc8s@webmail.sasktel.net> <1548965089.762730.1636176554267@ox-webmail.xs4all.nl> Message-ID: Dear Reiner, I would like to book service/repair for my ( X 2) TD-700. How do I proceed ? Best Regards, Miroslav Tkachenko 80 Via Borghese, Woodbridge, Ontario, L4H 0Y6, Canada Cell/ Whatsapp +1-647 4095666 Skype - miroslavt1208 Facebook - facebook.com/miroslav.tkachenko.9 Instagram - miroslavt2018​ Twitter - @miroslavt https://myspace.com/opiumsongs ________________________________ From: Naktalk on behalf of Wouter Heijke via Naktalk Sent: November 6, 2021 1:29 AM To: joyell.solie at sasktel.net ; Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks Subject: Re: [naktalk] TD-700 service Hey Rainer, That will be a fun Christmas job to do, cracking that code! With all the more complex stuff that is crackable these days this one should be 'easy' one would say... Wouter > Op 06-11-2021 00:58 schreef Joy-Ell & Rainer via Naktalk : > > > If anyone needs service or complete refurb on TD-500 and up car decks, I'll be able to take some bookings to be done over Christmas or early in the new year. :) If anyone has a TD-1200 that you don't have the code for I'd be interested in trying to crack that for you! > > Cheers, > Rainer S. 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How do I proceed ?       Best Regards,   Miroslav Tkachenko 80 Via Borghese, Woodbridge, Ontario, L4H 0Y6, Canada   Cell/ Whatsapp +1-647 4095666                 Skype - miroslavt1208 Facebook - facebook.com/miroslav.tkachenko.9 Instagram - miroslavt2018​ Twitter - @miroslavt https://myspace.com/opiumsongs   From: Naktalk on behalf of Wouter Heijke via Naktalk Sent: November 6, 2021 1:29 AM To: joyell.solie at sasktel.net ; Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks Subject: Re: [naktalk] TD-700 service   Hey Rainer, That will be a fun Christmas job to do, cracking that code! With all the more complex stuff that is crackable these days this one should be 'easy' one would say... Wouter > Op 06-11-2021 00:58 schreef Joy-Ell & Rainer via Naktalk : > >  > If anyone needs service or complete refurb on TD-500 and up car decks, I'll be able to take some bookings to be done over Christmas or early in the new year. :)  If anyone has a TD-1200 that you don't have the code for I'd be interested in trying to crack that for you!  > > Cheers, > Rainer S.  (80stech) > ========---------------------------------------------------------=========           Also check out the wiki! https://apac01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwiki.naks.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C524ad55752a04c6cac8708d9a0e6639f%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637717733780381958%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=REKMQl%2BUuI2i%2FKIm%2BQAaT8GlCvb%2FhZGr4DUYhOpOexg%3D&reserved=0 ========---------------------------------------------------------=========                         Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: https://apac01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists.naks.com%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fnaktalk&data=04%7C01%7C%7C524ad55752a04c6cac8708d9a0e6639f%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637717733780381958%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=cNbY11lggRsEA%2BfdkXXLWFtQMM3W3La%2FC8uFmD3wAVU%3D&reserved=0 ========---------------------------------------------------------========= ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I’m fact I purchased all the service information and some of the test equipment when B&W closed their facility. Unfortunately I’m currently inundated with work and won’t be taking in any further work until March 2022. If your requirements will hold until then by all means contact me nearer that time. Regards, Mark Sent from my iPhone > On 10 Nov 2021, at 09:19, David Edwards via Naktalk wrote: > >  > Hi Everyone, > > B&W in Worthing in the UK, have stopped servicing Naks, I believe. > > Does anyone know of anyone who services/refurbishes Naks in the UK these days? > > Thanks, > > David > > > > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Wed Nov 10 12:40:53 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Edward Baker via Naktalk) Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2021 11:40:53 +0000 Subject: [naktalk] Servicing in the UK In-Reply-To: <6953C42A-DFC8-4C43-BD5C-208B6D7D5C1A@virginmedia.com> References: <51287212-3e3e-84c7-e3ed-3c416f6b3ca7@talktalk.net> <6953C42A-DFC8-4C43-BD5C-208B6D7D5C1A@virginmedia.com> Message-ID: Mark, That is great news, I will also need a ZX7 serviced in the future (it’s fine at present and was serviced by B&W back in 2017). Where are you situated in the UK. Regards,Ed Sent from my iPad On 10 Nov 2021, at 10:13, Mark Harris via Naktalk wrote:  Hi David, I service, restore and repair Nakamichi equipment. I’m fact I purchased all the service information and some of the test equipment when B&W closed their facility. Unfortunately I’m currently inundated with work and won’t be taking in any further work until March 2022. If your requirements will hold until then by all means contact me nearer that time. Regards, Mark Sent from my iPhone On 10 Nov 2021, at 09:19, David Edwards via Naktalk wrote:  Hi Everyone, B&W in Worthing in the UK, have stopped servicing Naks, I believe. Does anyone know of anyone who services/refurbishes Naks in the UK these days? 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Best Regards, Miroslav Tkachenko 80 Via Borghese, Woodbridge, Ontario, L4H 0Y6, Canada Cell/ Whatsapp +1-647 4095666 Skype - miroslavt1208 Facebook - facebook.com/miroslav.tkachenko.9 Instagram - miroslavt2018​ Twitter - @miroslavt https://myspace.com/opiumsongs From: Naktalk on behalf of Wouter Heijke via Naktalk Sent: November 6, 2021 1:29 AM To: joyell.solie at sasktel.net ; Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks Subject: Re: [naktalk] TD-700 service Hey Rainer, That will be a fun Christmas job to do, cracking that code! With all the more complex stuff that is crackable these days this one should be 'easy' one would say... Wouter > Op 06-11-2021 00:58 schreef Joy-Ell & Rainer via Naktalk : > > > If anyone needs service or complete refurb on TD-500 and up car decks, I'll be able to take some bookings to be done over Christmas or early in the new year. :) If anyone has a TD-1200 that you don't have the code for I'd be interested in trying to crack that for you! > > Cheers, > Rainer S. 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Any chance you still might change Naktalk to a web page type forum? Thanks :) Rainer S. On Thu, 11 Nov 2021 19:00:41 +0000, Miroslav Tkachenko wrote:   Dear Reiner,   Kind reminder on below.   Sent from Mail for Windows   From: Miroslav Tkachenko via Naktalk Sent: November 7, 2021 2:36 AM To: joyell.solie at sasktel.net; Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks; Wouter Heijke Subject: Re: [naktalk] TD-700 service   Dear Reiner,   I would like to book service/repair  for my ( X 2) TD-700. How do I proceed ?   Best Regards,   Miroslav Tkachenko 80 Via Borghese, Woodbridge, Ontario, L4H 0Y6, Canada   Cell/ Whatsapp +1-647 4095666               Skype - miroslavt1208 Facebook - facebook.com/miroslav.tkachenko.9 Instagram - miroslavt2018​ Twitter - @miroslavt https://myspace.com/opiumsongs   From: Naktalk on behalf of Wouter Heijke via Naktalk Sent: November 6, 2021 1:29 AM To: joyell.solie at sasktel.net ; Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks Subject: Re: [naktalk] TD-700 service   Hey Rainer, That will be a fun Christmas job to do, cracking that code! With all the more complex stuff that is crackable these days this one should be 'easy' one would say... Wouter > Op 06-11-2021 00:58 schreef Joy-Ell & Rainer via Naktalk : > >  > If anyone needs service or complete refurb on TD-500 and up car decks, I'll be able to take some bookings to be done over Christmas or early in the new year. :)  If anyone has a TD-1200 that you don't have the code for I'd be interested in trying to crack that for you!  > > Cheers, > Rainer S.  (80stech) > ========---------------------------------------------------------=========           Also check out the wiki! https://apac01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwiki.naks.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C524ad55752a04c6cac8708d9a0e6639f%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637717733780381958%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=REKMQl%2BUuI2i%2FKIm%2BQAaT8GlCvb%2FhZGr4DUYhOpOexg%3D&reserved=0 ========---------------------------------------------------------=========                         Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: https://apac01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists.naks.com%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fnaktalk&data=04%7C01%7C%7C524ad55752a04c6cac8708d9a0e6639f%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637717733780381958%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=cNbY11lggRsEA%2BfdkXXLWFtQMM3W3La%2FC8uFmD3wAVU%3D&reserved=0 ========---------------------------------------------------------=========   -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I’m fact I purchased all the service information and some of the test equipment when B&W closed their facility. > Unfortunately I’m currently inundated with work and won’t be taking in any further work until March 2022. > If your requirements will hold until then by all means contact me nearer that time. > > Regards, > > Mark > > Sent from my iPhone > >>> On 10 Nov 2021, at 09:19, David Edwards via Naktalk wrote: >>> >>  >> Hi Everyone, >> >> B&W in Worthing in the UK, have stopped servicing Naks, I believe. >> >> Does anyone know of anyone who services/refurbishes Naks in the UK these days? >> >> Thanks, >> >> David >> >> >> >> >> >> ========---------------------------------------------------------========= >> Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com >> ========---------------------------------------------------------========= >> Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist >> Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >> ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The 1000 works and plays ok, with some speed distortion (especially if you so much as touch the pitch control knob), so I'm thinking belt replacement and minor cleaning.  Is there anything else I should be looking at? The 680 powers on fine, but the eject mechanism lever seems to be broken, as it slides but does not eject the tape door. I saw a thread about this from 2019 or 2020, and will take the cover off to see if I can get the door open (there was even a comment about someone jerry-rigging the mechanism with a paper clip). I'll update if I'm able to get a tape in there and test it. So my main question is: does anyone know a good technician with solid Nakamichi experience? I'm especially worried about the Dragon because of its high complexity and sophisticated functions. I don't want to give them to my tech guy, who is good at repairing tube amps and vintage gear. My other question: where is a good place to get replacement belts/Idler tires for these models? 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JBWeld metal epoxy is then used to cast the part or reinforce it in place. The other pics are of the part not found, and an entire substitute piece had to be made. > > Both repaired parts are stronger than the original design. I’ve had to do this on at least 10 decks over the years. > > I would recommend joining tapeheads.net where there is a strong active Nakamichi community that can answer all questions in real time. > > Perry > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image0.jpeg Type: image/jpeg Size: 123291 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image1.jpeg Type: image/jpeg Size: 152027 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image2.jpeg Type: image/jpeg Size: 218304 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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You can send the decks anytime but I thought it would be good to get some history on them and find out what you what done first. :) Cheers, Rainer S. My address again is: Rainer Sahlmueller 18 Woods Crescent Emerald Park Sask. S4L-1C4​​​​​​​ On Mon, 15 Nov 2021 20:06:20 +0000, Miroslav Tkachenko wrote: Kind reminder    Sent from my iPhone Miroslav Tkachenko Cell 1-647-409-5666   On Nov 13, 2021, at 12:30 AM, Miroslav Tkachenko wrote:    Hi Rainer,   I am in Canada too, That makes it eases to mail you TD-700.       Best Regards,   Miroslav Tkachenko 80 Via Borghese, Woodbridge, Ontario, L4H 0Y6, Canada   Cell/ Whatsapp +1-647 4095666                 Skype - miroslavt1208 Facebook - facebook.com/miroslav.tkachenko.9 Instagram - miroslavt2018​ Twitter - @miroslavt https://myspace.com/opiumsongs     From: Miroslav Tkachenko Sent: November 11, 2021 2:00 PM To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks ; joyell.solie at sasktel.net ; Wouter Heijke Subject: RE: [naktalk] TD-700 service   Dear Reiner,   Kind reminder on below.   Sent from Mail for Windows   From: Miroslav Tkachenko via Naktalk Sent: November 7, 2021 2:36 AM To: joyell.solie at sasktel.net; Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks; Wouter Heijke Subject: Re: [naktalk] TD-700 service   Dear Reiner,   I would like to book service/repair  for my ( X 2) TD-700. How do I proceed ?   Best Regards,   Miroslav Tkachenko 80 Via Borghese, Woodbridge, Ontario, L4H 0Y6, Canada   Cell/ Whatsapp +1-647 4095666               Skype - miroslavt1208 Facebook - facebook.com/miroslav.tkachenko.9 Instagram - miroslavt2018​ Twitter - @miroslavt https://myspace.com/opiumsongs     From: Naktalk on behalf of Wouter Heijke via Naktalk Sent: November 6, 2021 1:29 AM To: joyell.solie at sasktel.net ; Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks Subject: Re: [naktalk] TD-700 service   Hey Rainer, That will be a fun Christmas job to do, cracking that code! With all the more complex stuff that is crackable these days this one should be 'easy' one would say... 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URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Tue Nov 23 14:04:27 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (via Naktalk) Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2021 08:04:27 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Nakamichi RX 202 Problem References: <005101d7e06a$a6188920$f2499b60$.ref@rogers.com> Message-ID: <005101d7e06a$a6188920$f2499b60$@rogers.com> Hi! I would like help for a Nakamichi RX 202 repair. The unit is in great working condition with the exception of the flip motor running continuously on Side A and when I press eject the tape opens and flips to B. Many thanks Raduski -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Fri Nov 26 14:24:59 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Bob Naylor via Naktalk) Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2021 08:24:59 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] ZX-7 calibration In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Update. My counter has been intermittent for years. Well now the counter is working fine and the calibration is also now working normally. It looks like I need to diagnose the counter problem. If I'm lucky I'll find a bad solder joint or something easy. Bob N On Mon, Oct 18, 2021, 7:05 PM Bob Naylor wrote: > Hi all, Does the counter need to work for the calibration procedure to > work? > Here's the reason for asking > > The short story... > > My counter on my ZX-7 has been intermittent for a few years now but I just > didn't worry about it. I didn't have to perform the calibration very often > since I was using the same tapes but the other day I ran through the > calibration procedure and it worked fine. The counter was also working. > Shortly after the counter quit. Then the following happened... > > The long story of what happens trying to calibrate with inop counter... > > Start with azimuth get no reading on any of the three LED lights but when > switching to source then back to tape, the LED will light up as it should > for a couple seconds. Long enough for me to get it adjusted. Then the > light/LED goes out. > Then switch to the 400hz position. Same thing. You get nothing but > switching to source you get the tone, and see it on the VU meters, then > switch back to tape and get the tone and meter reading for only for a > second or so, but long enough to tell if the setting is correct or not. > Next is the 15K tone. That's a lot tougher to figure out however I can get > it adjusted. > Next hit the reset button which the calibration is now cancelled and the > tape rewinds back to zero/0000, but in my case the counter is already at > 0000. > > So I have two questions, does the counter need to operate for the entire > calibration procedure to operate properly? > > Next question, since the tapes operate fine, only the counter is > defective, I know the transport light/lamp must be working so I was > thinking the IC on the counter board may be bad. Any ideas? > > Thanks guys for reading. > > Bob N > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Sat Nov 27 00:27:12 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Bob Naylor via Naktalk) Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2021 18:27:12 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] ZX-7 calibration In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Another update from today, the counter quit again and the calibration will not work properly. I would think this is no longer a coincidence. Bob N On Fri, Nov 26, 2021 at 8:24 AM Bob Naylor wrote: > Update. My counter has been intermittent for years. Well now the counter > is working fine and the calibration is also now working normally. It looks > like I need to diagnose the counter problem. > If I'm lucky I'll find a bad solder joint or something easy. > > Bob N > > > > On Mon, Oct 18, 2021, 7:05 PM Bob Naylor wrote: > >> Hi all, Does the counter need to work for the calibration procedure to >> work? >> Here's the reason for asking >> >> The short story... >> >> My counter on my ZX-7 has been intermittent for a few years now but I >> just didn't worry about it. I didn't have to perform the calibration very >> often since I was using the same tapes but the other day I ran through the >> calibration procedure and it worked fine. The counter was also working. >> Shortly after the counter quit. Then the following happened... >> >> The long story of what happens trying to calibrate with inop counter... >> >> Start with azimuth get no reading on any of the three LED lights but when >> switching to source then back to tape, the LED will light up as it should >> for a couple seconds. Long enough for me to get it adjusted. Then the >> light/LED goes out. >> Then switch to the 400hz position. Same thing. You get nothing but >> switching to source you get the tone, and see it on the VU meters, then >> switch back to tape and get the tone and meter reading for only for a >> second or so, but long enough to tell if the setting is correct or not. >> Next is the 15K tone. That's a lot tougher to figure out however I can >> get it adjusted. >> Next hit the reset button which the calibration is now cancelled and the >> tape rewinds back to zero/0000, but in my case the counter is already at >> 0000. >> >> So I have two questions, does the counter need to operate for the entire >> calibration procedure to operate properly? >> >> Next question, since the tapes operate fine, only the counter is >> defective, I know the transport light/lamp must be working so I was >> thinking the IC on the counter board may be bad. Any ideas? >> >> Thanks guys for reading. >> >> Bob N >> >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Sun Nov 28 14:34:09 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Bob Naylor via Naktalk) Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2021 08:34:09 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] ZX-7 calibration In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi all, Looking at my service manual, I may have to remove the front panel to get to the two counter circuit boards. Is that correct? I'm trying to get an idea of what's involved here to diagnose the counter before I get the deck out of the rack and on the bench. For those that missed it, when my intermittent counter is working, the calibration procedure works correctly. When the counter is stuck at 0000 the calibration procedure does NOT work correctly. Because of that it looks like I need to diagnose the counter problem. The tape always runs properly whether the counter is working or not. On the counter, once in a while I see the "ones" digit glowing a little brighter than the other three digits. I don't know if the "ones" digit/LED is brighter than normal or if the other three digits/LED's are dimmer than normal. Any ideas on this would sure be appreciated. Thank you. Take care, Bob N On Mon, Oct 18, 2021 at 7:05 PM Bob Naylor wrote: > Hi all, Does the counter need to work for the calibration procedure to > work? > Here's the reason for asking > > The short story... > > My counter on my ZX-7 has been intermittent for a few years now but I just > didn't worry about it. I didn't have to perform the calibration very often > since I was using the same tapes but the other day I ran through the > calibration procedure and it worked fine. The counter was also working. > Shortly after the counter quit. Then the following happened... > > The long story of what happens trying to calibrate with inop counter... > > Start with azimuth get no reading on any of the three LED lights but when > switching to source then back to tape, the LED will light up as it should > for a couple seconds. Long enough for me to get it adjusted. Then the > light/LED goes out. > Then switch to the 400hz position. Same thing. You get nothing but > switching to source you get the tone, and see it on the VU meters, then > switch back to tape and get the tone and meter reading for only for a > second or so, but long enough to tell if the setting is correct or not. > Next is the 15K tone. That's a lot tougher to figure out however I can get > it adjusted. > Next hit the reset button which the calibration is now cancelled and the > tape rewinds back to zero/0000, but in my case the counter is already at > 0000. > > So I have two questions, does the counter need to operate for the entire > calibration procedure to operate properly? > > Next question, since the tapes operate fine, only the counter is > defective, I know the transport light/lamp must be working so I was > thinking the IC on the counter board may be bad. Any ideas? > > Thanks guys for reading. > > Bob N > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Sun Nov 28 15:06:01 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Roland via Naktalk) Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2021 09:06:01 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] ZX-7 calibration References: Message-ID: Have you tried HiFiengine.com?   I just checked and they have the service manual and schematics. Sent from Samsung tablet. -------- Original message -------- From: Bob Naylor via Naktalk Date: 11/28/2021 8:34 AM (GMT-05:00) To: Nakamichi Nakamichi Subject: Re: [naktalk] ZX-7 calibration Hi all, Looking at my service manual, I may have to remove the front panel to get to the two counter circuit boards.Is that correct? I'm trying to get an idea of what's involved here to diagnose the counter before I get the deck out of the rack and on the bench.For those that missed it, when my intermittent counter is working, the calibration procedure works correctly. When the counteris stuck at 0000 the calibration procedure does NOT work correctly. Because of that it looks like I need to diagnosethe counter problem. The tape always runs properly whether the counter is working or not.On the counter, once in a while I see the "ones" digit glowing a little brighter than the other three digits. I don't know ifthe "ones" digit/LED is brighter than normal or if the other three digits/LED's are dimmer than normal.Any ideas on this would sure be appreciated.Thank you. Take care, Bob NOn Mon, Oct 18, 2021 at 7:05 PM Bob Naylor wrote:Hi all, Does the counter need to work for the calibration procedure to work?Here's the reason for askingThe short story...My counter on my ZX-7 has been intermittent for a few years now but I just didn't worry about it. I didn't have to perform the calibration very often since I was using the same tapes but the other day I ran through the calibration procedure and it worked fine. The counter was also working. Shortly after the counter quit. Then the following happened...The long story  of what happens trying to calibrate with inop counter...Start with azimuth get no reading on any of the three LED lights but when switching to source then back to tape, the LED will light up as it should for a couple seconds. Long enough for me to get it adjusted. Then the light/LED goes out.Then switch to the 400hz position. Same thing. You get nothing but switching to source you get the tone, and see it on the VU meters, then switch back to tape and get the tone and meter reading for only for a second or so, but long enough to tell if the setting is correct or not.Next is the 15K tone. That's a lot tougher to figure out however I can get it adjusted.Next hit the reset button which the calibration is now cancelled and the tape rewinds back to zero/0000, but in my case the counter is already at 0000.So I have two questions, does the counter need to operate for the entire calibration procedure to operate properly?Next question, since the tapes operate fine, only the counter is defective, I know the transport light/lamp must be working so I was thinking the IC on the counter board may be bad. Any ideas?Thanks guys for reading.Bob N -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Sun Nov 28 21:03:03 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Bob Naylor via Naktalk) Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2021 15:03:03 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] ZX-7 calibration problem Message-ID: Hi all, I'm not sure if all of my posts go through so I'm writing an update. Through testing I've determined that the calibration procedure on my ZX-7 will not work properly if the tape counter is not working. In my case the counter is intermittent. When the counter is not working it's stuck at 0000. When the counter is working, the calibration procedure works as it should. Tape always runs fine no matter if the counter is working or not. The "ones" digit on the counter is sometimes brighter than the other digits. I'm not sure if it's brighter or if the other three digits are dimmer. Looking at my service manual that I got on line, I need to remove the front panel to get to the counter circuit boards. Is that correct? Any hints on all this would sure be appreciated. Thank you, Bob N -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Sun Nov 28 21:53:21 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Dwight Price via Naktalk) Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2021 20:53:21 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [naktalk] ZX-7 calibration problem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1326925411.2082972.1638132801677@mail.yahoo.com> Hi Bob, I don't own a ZX-7, but I've worked on a LOT of decks (including my own Naks) and it's very likely the counter belt or some oxidation on/in the electronics of the counter itself. Very minimal and judicious cleaning (a swab with some D5 DeOxit) or replacing the belt is likely to get you home.  It doesn't HAVE to be just these two problems, but based on my experience with many tape decks, these are the most likely suspects. I hope it's that simple.  Someone else will need to speak to the simplicity (or lack thereof) involved with replacing belts on a ZX-9. Best regards and best of luck! Dwight -----Original Message----- From: Bob Naylor via Naktalk To: Nakamichi Nakamichi Sent: Sun, Nov 28, 2021 3:03 pm Subject: [naktalk] ZX-7 calibration problem Hi all, I'm not sure if all of my posts go through so I'm writing an update. Through testing I've determined that the calibration procedure on my ZX-7 will not work properly if the tape counter is not working. In my case the counter is intermittent. When the counter is not working it's stuck at 0000. When the counter is working, the calibration procedure works as it should. Tape always runs fine no matter if the counter is working or not. The "ones" digit on the counter is sometimes brighter than the other digits. I'm not sure if it's brighter or if the other three digits are dimmer. Looking at my service manual that I got on line, I need to remove the front panel to get to the counter circuit boards. Is that correct? Any hints on all this would sure be appreciated. Thank you, Bob N========---------------------------------------------------------=========           Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com ========---------------------------------------------------------=========                         Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Mon Nov 29 15:15:24 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Daniel Botelho via Naktalk) Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2021 09:15:24 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] ZX-7 calibration problem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I'm not sure on the ZX7, but I know on the dragon, there is a bulb near the top of the mechanism...I think on this one there is the reflective reel tables that measure the tape movement. There should be a PCB behind the reel tables. One of the guys replaced the sensors on the PCB board behind the reel tables...This thread might be helpful: http://www.tapeheads.net/showthread.php?t=64855 Good luck! On Sun, Nov 28, 2021 at 3:03 PM Bob Naylor via Naktalk < naktalk at lists.naks.com> wrote: > Hi all, I'm not sure if all of my posts go through so I'm writing an > update. > > Through testing I've determined that the calibration procedure on my ZX-7 > will not work properly if the tape counter is not working. In my case the > counter is intermittent. When the counter is not working it's stuck at > 0000. When the counter is working, the calibration procedure works as it > should. Tape always runs fine no matter if the counter is working or not. > > The "ones" digit on the counter is sometimes brighter than the other > digits. I'm not sure if it's brighter or if the other three digits are > dimmer. > > Looking at my service manual that I got on line, I need to remove the > front panel to get to the counter circuit boards. Is that correct? > > Any hints on all this would sure be appreciated. > > Thank you, Bob N > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Mon Nov 29 18:50:06 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Tom Brucker via Naktalk) Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2021 11:50:06 -0600 Subject: [naktalk] ZX-7 calibration problem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Wow, the counter ic is fed transport data. I wonder why? My first suggestion is to change C601,602. The clock may be intermittent. Reset should be ok since you get 000. On Sun, Nov 28, 2021, 2:03 PM Bob Naylor via Naktalk wrote: > Hi all, I'm not sure if all of my posts go through so I'm writing an > update. > > Through testing I've determined that the calibration procedure on my ZX-7 > will not work properly if the tape counter is not working. In my case the > counter is intermittent. When the counter is not working it's stuck at > 0000. When the counter is working, the calibration procedure works as it > should. Tape always runs fine no matter if the counter is working or not. > > The "ones" digit on the counter is sometimes brighter than the other > digits. I'm not sure if it's brighter or if the other three digits are > dimmer. > > Looking at my service manual that I got on line, I need to remove the > front panel to get to the counter circuit boards. Is that correct? > > Any hints on all this would sure be appreciated. > > Thank you, Bob N > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Tue Nov 30 15:04:50 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Perry.nak via Naktalk) Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2021 09:04:50 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] ZX-7 counter Message-ID: The calibration part MAY need to see the counter value so when RESET is hit, it goes back to zero? I am surprised too, since calibration is manual. It could be that the counter is STUCK on reset. That would prevent the beacons from working. Sent from my iPhone From naktalk at lists.naks.com Tue Nov 30 15:04:50 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Perry.nak via Naktalk) Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2021 09:04:50 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] ZX-7 counter Message-ID: The calibration part MAY need to see the counter value so when RESET is hit, it goes back to zero? I am surprised too, since calibration is manual. It could be that the counter is STUCK on reset. That would prevent the beacons from working. Sent from my iPhone From naktalk at lists.naks.com Tue Nov 30 17:47:54 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Joy-Ell & Rainer via Naktalk) Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2021 11:47:54 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] ZX-7 counter Message-ID: <1638290874.hdasfwycbo4c8444@webmail.sasktel.net> It might be that the problem just affects both the counter and calibration, not that the counter is necessarily the cause of the calibration problem. Cheers, Rainer (80stech) g:\07. razno\naktalk archive\2021\2021-12.txt ************************************************************************ From naktalk at lists.naks.com Thu Dec 2 05:02:27 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Mark Goldey via Naktalk) Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2021 23:02:27 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] NAAC v. questionable tapes Message-ID: Hi all.  I've had a Dragon for a few months and have a question about whether it's normal for find tapes that the NAAC can't settle in on.  I haven't found anything in the archive that hits my issue squarely and I'm hoping for some advice from people who've used a Dragon longer than I have. I have hundreds of cassettes recorded in the field between the late 70s and early 90s, some made on a Nak 550, others on a Sony TC-D5, and some made on home consumer decks in the 80s and 90s, equipment unknown.  Almost are are Type II or IV cassettes, Maxells or TDK, so quality tape. The NAAC is unhappy with some of these tapes, maybe 1 out of 25 or so.  It clicks constantly and can't settle in.  Sometimes the clicking starts right away, and other times half or one-third of the tape will play fine before it starts.  I understand why the NAAC is clicking, that's not my question.  I'm trying to work out whether the problem is with the tapes or with the Dragon. None of these tapes are physically defective.  They all play back fine in a CR-7A.  They don't sound distorted or particularly muddy, although that's an open question without an auto-adjusted version to compare them to.  Point is, the tapes are mechanically sound. The problem tapes are correlated with what I've figured out about the record deck that was used.  In one case, the taper made copies years after the original recording, probably using a pair of home consumer decks, onto TDK tapes.  All of those TDK tapes have a problem.  So it's either that batch of tapes or the record deck.  This person also copied filler onto older tapes, and one time that filler material was a problem, starting halfway through side B, but the original recording was fine.  In another collection with a dozen tapes recorded between 1988 and 1990, there were two pairs of 2 tapes each that won't play without clicking, which also suggests that the record deck used that day was a problem.  My question is, how normal is this?   How concerned should I be that the NAAC needs adjustment?   Or is it just that there are just some out-of-spec tapes out there, and the NAAC will never be happy with them, and since the NAAC ain't broke, don't try to fix it?  How often do you find a non-commercial tapes that the NAAC can't digest? Thanks, all.  Really appreciate your insight. --mhg From naktalk at lists.naks.com Thu Dec 2 06:48:02 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Gerhard Wartha via Naktalk) Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2021 06:48:02 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] NAAC v. questionable tapes In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7B7AA293-64DB-4FEE-A9FC-01EE163BC7E3@gmail.com> Yes, the Dragon may not be able to align with tapes recorded on the wrong track. Or to tapes with very wrong azimuth only. But it can also be that your Dragon needs a little metenance. The azimuth- mechanism will be set to OFF, and the play back head is adjusted with a very good or original Naka test cassette. But the most important information comes now. Before about 1978 there were still cartridges that had much coarser metal particles than those produced in Japan, with extremely fine particles. You shouldn't use these old fashion cassettes very often, they would wear out every Nakamichi tape head more. Maintenance should be done by someone who has the tools and only when really needed. https://www.gerhardwartha.com/restore-studio There is a link to even more Naka tools for maintenance . > Am 02.12.2021 um 05:02 schrieb Mark Goldey via Naktalk : > > Hi all. > > I've had a Dragon for a few months and have a question about whether > it's normal for find tapes that the NAAC can't settle in on. I haven't > found anything in the archive that hits my issue squarely and I'm hoping > for some advice from people who've used a Dragon longer than I have. > > I have hundreds of cassettes recorded in the field between the late 70s > and early 90s, some made on a Nak 550, others on a Sony TC-D5, and some > made on home consumer decks in the 80s and 90s, equipment unknown. > Almost are are Type II or IV cassettes, Maxells or TDK, so quality tape. > > The NAAC is unhappy with some of these tapes, maybe 1 out of 25 or so. > It clicks constantly and can't settle in. Sometimes the clicking starts > right away, and other times half or one-third of the tape will play fine > before it starts. I understand why the NAAC is clicking, that's not my > question. I'm trying to work out whether the problem is with the tapes > or with the Dragon. > > None of these tapes are physically defective. They all play back fine > in a CR-7A. They don't sound distorted or particularly muddy, although > that's an open question without an auto-adjusted version to compare them > to. Point is, the tapes are mechanically sound. > > The problem tapes are correlated with what I've figured out about the > record deck that was used. In one case, the taper made copies years > after the original recording, probably using a pair of home consumer > decks, onto TDK tapes. All of those TDK tapes have a problem. So it's > either that batch of tapes or the record deck. This person also copied > filler onto older tapes, and one time that filler material was a > problem, starting halfway through side B, but the original recording was > fine. In another collection with a dozen tapes recorded between 1988 > and 1990, there were two pairs of 2 tapes each that won't play without > clicking, which also suggests that the record deck used that day was a > problem. > > My question is, how normal is this? How concerned should I be that the > NAAC needs adjustment? Or is it just that there are just some > out-of-spec tapes out there, and the NAAC will never be happy with them, > and since the NAAC ain't broke, don't try to fix it? How often do you > find a non-commercial tapes that the NAAC can't digest? > > Thanks, all. Really appreciate your insight. > > --mhg > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Thu Dec 2 14:40:38 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Perry.nak via Naktalk) Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2021 08:40:38 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Questionable tapes Message-ID: <2285D388-785D-4CE6-B938-CF4B3D9FF0F0@comcast.net> Absolutely normal, though as Gerhard said, unless it has been serviced in the last few years, it could easily be compounded by the deck. A dub of a tape made on a portable deck could VERY easily have azimuth beyond the adjustment of the Dragons range as well as skew caused by the batch of tapes. I even have some commercial prerecorded tapes that can not play on a Dragon, most likely from shell issues. I doubt it is the tapes, much more likely the live recordings. Sent from my iPhone From naktalk at lists.naks.com Thu Dec 2 18:08:48 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Richard L. Hess via Naktalk) Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2021 12:08:48 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] NAAC v. questionable tapes In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2c100ad3-de25-d301-dada-77f3fd19b79b@richardhess.com> Hi, Mark, I've used Dragons for nearly 20 years in my tape restoration work. They are lovely, but once in a while do need maintenance. My goal is to provide the best possible transfer for archives' and libraries' collections--typically oral histories more often than not recorded on the cheapest equipment a historian/researcher could find at the last minute using the built-in mic. Many of these are mono tapes, sometimes with poor coverage of the stereo "right" track. As you know, the Dragon splits the right track in half and compares the two halves to each other for the azimuth adjustment. It does not use the left channel for any of the azimuth adjustment. The following description should be done only by someone who is technically competent to go inside a Dragon. I cannot be held liable if you try this and mess up your Dragon. I've done this mod on four or five of my seven Dragons. It meets my needs. I will not modify your Dragon. About a dozen or so years ago, I modified my Dragons to provide manual azimuth adjustment. It is fairly easy to do: 1) cut the "hot" wire to the azimuth motor 2) connect the end of that wire that goes to the motor to the "arm" of the spare pole on the Timer Play/Rec switch. 3) connect the end of the cut wire from the circuit board to the contact of the switch that is closed in Play 4) connect the non-power terminal of the Gizmo connector (removing the wire going to the circuit board)     to the contact of the switch closed in Rec This now allows you to make a small 1x1x3 diecast box with a momentary on-off-on miniature toggle switch. I used a cable gland to secure a small four-conductor cable to the end of the box opposite the switch and put a DIN connector on the other end to match the now former Gizmo connector. The motor line comes into the switch arm through a small resistor, about 100 ohms, but I forget the exact value. In the centre position the far end of the resistor is grounded. In one momentary position, it connects to the positive voltage already at the Gizmo connector. In the other momentary position, it connects to the negative power already at the Gizmo. The reason you ground the motor for off through the resistor is to slow it down--it's a dynamic brake. Now with that mod working, engage it by placing the timer switch into record. I use StereoTool.com that shows a strip chart (I think you have to buy a low-level licence) of azimuth. It's a VST plugin. I generally use one instance for each Dragon I'm using at the moment. You can centre the line in the strip chart and there's your azimuth. I wired my studio for six Dragons, but only have four installed as I needed a third monitor more than two more Dragons--and four Dragons work well with an 8-input interface. As an aside, I use a combination of Aphex 124 IHF to balanced converters and a custom made Grace Designs IHF to balanced converter. I use a six foot or less RCA-to-RCA cable to connect the Dragon to the converter. The output impedance of the Dragon can be as high as 2500 ohms (with 6 dB turned out of the play level control), so longer cables will provide some high-frequency rolloff. With the clicking, that means you're at the end of the motor-driven azimuth range. It is possible to use the white azimuth adjustment gear wheel to mis-adjust the play head azimuth so that the motor driven range is more centred on the lousy tape you're transferring. Then you use the motor-driven azimuth (either manual or auto) to correct for the tape. To set the mechanical azimuth back to correct, power up the machine in auto azimuth mode so the azimuth centres, then switch to manual azimuth on the modded machine and record a mid-frequency tone on both channels and align the play azimuth using the gear wheel. Repeat at several higher frequencies, but the only time you need to really accurately adjust the play azimuth to a new test tape is when you're going to then adjust the record azimuth because if you're close, the Dragon auto azimuth (or the manual azimuth) will take care of that. Few tapes are really dead on, so it's not worth the effort to get the last arc-minute or two of alignment to the calibration tape. Cheers, Richard On 2021-12-01 11:02 p.m., Mark Goldey via Naktalk wrote: > Hi all. > > I've had a Dragon for a few months and have a question about whether > it's normal for find tapes that the NAAC can't settle in on.  I haven't > found anything in the archive that hits my issue squarely and I'm hoping > for some advice from people who've used a Dragon longer than I have. > -- Richard L. Hess email:richard at richardhess.com Aurora, Ontario, Canadahttp://www.richardhess.com/ http://www.richardhess.com/tape/contact.htm Quality tape transfers -- even from hard-to-play tapes. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Thu Dec 2 20:33:19 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (kannan srinivasaraghavan via Naktalk) Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2021 19:33:19 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [naktalk] NAAC v. questionable tapes In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1201223617.5458604.1638473599441@mail.yahoo.com> From the symptoms that you describe below, it looks to me that this Dragon needs (Serious) service and various factors affect NAAC operations depending on the Dragon serial numbers. The culprits could be Head alignment and NAAC calibration ( particularly 15 Khz one) Also I have seen the issues are compounded by Tape travel and speed differential between Capstans. If your Dragon has not been serviced by a competent Tech ( NAAC is affected by so many adjustments in a Dragon) the problem could be still present after service. , The Tech should have experience with troubleshooting NAAC issues. There is also a Nakamichi service note about reducing the NAAC sensitivity. I have also seen problem with Playback head cable closer to NAAC cable causing issues ( even though all other adjustments are fine ) There is also a note on keeping Dragon away from TV ! TV emitting radio signals are picked up Playback cables it looks like. So i would not blame only tapes for your issue Kannan On Wednesday, December 1, 2021, 11:31:01 PM CST, Mark Goldey via Naktalk wrote: Hi all.  I've had a Dragon for a few months and have a question about whether it's normal for find tapes that the NAAC can't settle in on.  .......................The NAAC is unhappy with some of these tapes, maybe 1 out of 25 or so.  It clicks constantly and can't settle in.  Sometimes the clicking starts right away, and other times half or one-third of the tape will play fine before it starts.  I understand why the NAAC is clicking, that's not my question.  I'm trying to work out whether the problem is with the tapes or with the Dragon. None of these tapes are physically defective.  They all play back fine in a CR-7A.  They don't sound distorted or particularly muddy, although that's an open question without an auto-adjusted version to compare them to.  Point is, the tapes are mechanically sound. 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URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Thu Dec 2 21:11:06 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (rksr59@terra.com.br via Naktalk) Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2021 20:11:06 +0000 Subject: [naktalk] NAAC v. questionable tapes In-Reply-To: <1201223617.5458604.1638473599441@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1201223617.5458604.1638473599441@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hi guys, I guess the television issue is no longer a problem with these (not so new) plasma, LED flat screen tvs… Best of lucks with your Dragon! Cheers, Rodrigo Krause From: Naktalk on behalf of kannan srinivasaraghavan via Naktalk Date: Thursday, 2 December 2021 16:33 To: naktalk at lists.naks.com , mgoldey at goldey.net Subject: Re: [naktalk] NAAC v. questionable tapes >From the symptoms that you describe below, it looks to me that this Dragon needs (Serious) service and various factors affect NAAC operations depending on the Dragon serial numbers. The culprits could be Head alignment and NAAC calibration ( particularly 15 Khz one) Also I have seen the issues are compounded by Tape travel and speed differential between Capstans. If your Dragon has not been serviced by a competent Tech ( NAAC is affected by so many adjustments in a Dragon) the problem could be still present after service. , The Tech should have experience with troubleshooting NAAC issues. There is also a Nakamichi service note about reducing the NAAC sensitivity. I have also seen problem with Playback head cable closer to NAAC cable causing issues ( even though all other adjustments are fine ) There is also a note on keeping Dragon away from TV ! TV emitting radio signals are picked up Playback cables it looks like. So i would not blame only tapes for your issue Kannan On Wednesday, December 1, 2021, 11:31:01 PM CST, Mark Goldey via Naktalk wrote: Hi all. I've had a Dragon for a few months and have a question about whether it's normal for find tapes that the NAAC can't settle in on. ....................... The NAAC is unhappy with some of these tapes, maybe 1 out of 25 or so. It clicks constantly and can't settle in. Sometimes the clicking starts right away, and other times half or one-third of the tape will play fine before it starts. I understand why the NAAC is clicking, that's not my question. I'm trying to work out whether the problem is with the tapes or with the Dragon. None of these tapes are physically defective. They all play back fine in a CR-7A. They don't sound distorted or particularly muddy, although that's an open question without an auto-adjusted version to compare them to. Point is, the tapes are mechanically sound. How often do you find a non-commercial tapes that the NAAC can't digest? Thanks, all. Really appreciate your insight. --mhg ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Tue Dec 7 03:17:56 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Mark Goldey via Naktalk) Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2021 21:17:56 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] NAAC v. questionable tapes In-Reply-To: References: <1201223617.5458604.1638473599441@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Rodrigo Krause From naktalk at lists.naks.com Wed Dec 8 19:46:22 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Joy-Ell & Rainer via Naktalk) Date: Wed, 08 Dec 2021 13:46:22 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] TD-700 service In-Reply-To: References: <1636156704.wxa7dg5hokogoc8s@webmail.sasktel.net> <1548965089.762730.1636176554267@ox-webmail.xs4all.nl> Message-ID: <1638989182.ptqi3368gc0w48sk@webmail.sasktel.net> Hello again Miroslav :) I have sent you multiple E-mails but they seem to be not getting through. If you see this message then send me an Email at rainer at sasktel.net, hopefully that works better and we can talk about geting your decks serviced. Cheers, Rainer S. On Wed, 8 Dec 2021 18:17:37 +0000, Miroslav Tkachenko wrote:   Dear Reiner,   I would like to book service  for my ( X 2) TD-700. How do I proceed ? I am in Toronto/ Ontario     Sent from Mail for Windows   From: Miroslav Tkachenko via Naktalk Sent: November 11, 2021 2:06 PM To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks; joyell.solie at sasktel.net; Wouter Heijke Subject: Re: [naktalk] TD-700 service   Dear Reiner,   Kind reminder on below.   Sent from Mail for Windows   From: Miroslav Tkachenko via Naktalk Sent: November 7, 2021 2:36 AM To: joyell.solie at sasktel.net; Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks; Wouter Heijke Subject: Re: [naktalk] TD-700 service   Dear Reiner,   I would like to book service/repair  for my ( X 2) TD-700. How do I proceed ?   Best Regards,   Miroslav Tkachenko 80 Via Borghese, Woodbridge, Ontario, L4H 0Y6, Canada   Cell/ Whatsapp +1-647 4095666               Skype - miroslavt1208 Facebook - facebook.com/miroslav.tkachenko.9 Instagram - miroslavt2018​ Twitter - @miroslavt https://myspace.com/opiumsongs   From: Naktalk on behalf of Wouter Heijke via Naktalk Sent: November 6, 2021 1:29 AM To: joyell.solie at sasktel.net ; Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks Subject: Re: [naktalk] TD-700 service   Hey Rainer, That will be a fun Christmas job to do, cracking that code! With all the more complex stuff that is crackable these days this one should be 'easy' one would say... Wouter > Op 06-11-2021 00:58 schreef Joy-Ell & Rainer via Naktalk : > >  > If anyone needs service or complete refurb on TD-500 and up car decks, I'll be able to take some bookings to be done over Christmas or early in the new year. :)  If anyone has a TD-1200 that you don't have the code for I'd be interested in trying to crack that for you!  > > Cheers, > Rainer S.  (80stech) > ========---------------------------------------------------------=========           Also check out the wiki! https://apac01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwiki.naks.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C524ad55752a04c6cac8708d9a0e6639f%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637717733780381958%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=REKMQl%2BUuI2i%2FKIm%2BQAaT8GlCvb%2FhZGr4DUYhOpOexg%3D&reserved=0 ========---------------------------------------------------------=========                         Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: https://apac01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists.naks.com%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fnaktalk&data=04%7C01%7C%7C524ad55752a04c6cac8708d9a0e6639f%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637717733780381958%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=cNbY11lggRsEA%2BfdkXXLWFtQMM3W3La%2FC8uFmD3wAVU%3D&reserved=0 ========---------------------------------------------------------=========     -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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However, if played back on a Dragon, and the azimuth error is severe enough, the Dragon's NAAC will continually click trying to correct it. After all, NAAC is an 'automatic' adjustment that can't be defeated as a standard feature. The CR7a, with its manual playback azimuth correction, would be a better match for such tapes... no clicking. If the Dragon clicks on almost all tapes recorded on a variety of other decks, then I'd take look at the Dragon's head azimuth alignment. But since you've nailed it down to a batch or two, recorded on one or two decks, then I'd chalk it up to misaligned heads on those decks. phineas On Thu, 2 Dec 2021 at 15:11, rksr59 at terra.com.br via Naktalk < naktalk at lists.naks.com> wrote: > Hi guys, > > > > I guess the television issue is no longer a problem with these (not so > new) plasma, LED flat screen tvs… > > Best of lucks with your Dragon! > > > > Cheers, > > > Rodrigo Krause > > *From: *Naktalk on behalf of kannan > srinivasaraghavan via Naktalk > *Date: *Thursday, 2 December 2021 16:33 > *To: *naktalk at lists.naks.com , mgoldey at goldey.net > > *Subject: *Re: [naktalk] NAAC v. questionable tapes > > From the symptoms that you describe below, it looks to me that this Dragon > needs (Serious) service and various factors affect NAAC operations > depending on the Dragon serial numbers. > > > > The culprits could be Head alignment and NAAC calibration ( particularly > 15 Khz one) Also I have seen the issues are compounded by Tape travel and > speed differential between Capstans. If your Dragon has not been serviced > by a competent Tech ( NAAC is affected by so many adjustments in a Dragon) > the problem could be still present after service. , The Tech should have > experience with troubleshooting NAAC issues. There is also a Nakamichi > service note about reducing the NAAC sensitivity. I have also seen problem > with Playback head cable closer to NAAC cable causing issues ( even though > all other adjustments are fine ) There is also a note on keeping Dragon > away from TV ! TV emitting radio signals are picked up Playback cables it > looks like. > > > > So i would not blame only tapes for your issue > > > > Kannan > > > > > > On Wednesday, December 1, 2021, 11:31:01 PM CST, Mark Goldey via Naktalk < > naktalk at lists.naks.com> wrote: > > > > > > Hi all. > > > > I've had a Dragon for a few months and have a question about whether > > it's normal for find tapes that the NAAC can't settle in on. > > ....................... > > The NAAC is unhappy with some of these tapes, maybe 1 out of 25 or so. > > It clicks constantly and can't settle in. Sometimes the clicking starts > > right away, and other times half or one-third of the tape will play fine > > before it starts. I understand why the NAAC is clicking, that's not my > > question. I'm trying to work out whether the problem is with the tapes > > or with the Dragon. > > > > None of these tapes are physically defective. They all play back fine > > in a CR-7A. They don't sound distorted or particularly muddy, although > > that's an open question without an auto-adjusted version to compare them > > to. Point is, the tapes are mechanically sound. > > > > How often do you > > find a non-commercial tapes that the NAAC can't digest? > > > > Thanks, all. 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How do I proceed ? Best Regards, Miroslav Tkachenko 80 Via Borghese, Woodbridge, Ontario, L4H 0Y6, Canada Cell/ Whatsapp +1-647 4095666 Skype - miroslavt1208 Facebook - facebook.com/miroslav.tkachenko.9 Instagram - miroslavt2018​ Twitter - @miroslavt https://myspace.com/opiumsongs From: Naktalk on behalf of Wouter Heijke via Naktalk Sent: November 6, 2021 1:29 AM To: joyell.solie at sasktel.net ; Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks Subject: Re: [naktalk] TD-700 service Hey Rainer, That will be a fun Christmas job to do, cracking that code! With all the more complex stuff that is crackable these days this one should be 'easy' one would say... Wouter > Op 06-11-2021 00:58 schreef Joy-Ell & Rainer via Naktalk : > > > If anyone needs service or complete refurb on TD-500 and up car decks, I'll be able to take some bookings to be done over Christmas or early in the new year. :) If anyone has a TD-1200 that you don't have the code for I'd be interested in trying to crack that for you! > > Cheers, > Rainer S. 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The first belt (Item #75 Capstan Belt) seems very supple and pliable (accessed & assessed with the bottom cover off). The second belt (Item #09 Back Tension Arm Belt) is a bit more elusive, and will require deeper disassembly. I operated the player with the top & bottom covers off. As noted before, << & >> operate perfectly. But when I press >, the gear & cams (I believe they are Item #80 Cam Gear B) as shown in the next photo spin a couple of times, and the mechanism stops; yielding an "ERR" display. I made a short video showing what happens when the > button is pressed. Here is the link: https://www.dropbox.com/s/0j58ix2i0m18ock/20211204_174437.mp4?dl=0 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Thu Dec 9 22:58:40 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Michael via Naktalk) Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2021 15:58:40 -0600 Subject: [naktalk] Nackamichi Dragon for repair or sale References: <0923431D-904A-4D83-BFCC-74F228B5CCB9.ref@aol.com> Message-ID: <0923431D-904A-4D83-BFCC-74F228B5CCB9@aol.com> I have a Nakamichi Dragon Cassette Tape Deck that I have owned since 1986. I recently went to use it and it did not play properly. The counter did not move and the take up real did not provide proper tension to move the tape past the heads. Anyone want to fix it or buy it from me. Frankly I have not used it in about 20 years so I really do not need it. I guess it would be better off in someone else’s system that could get some use out if it. Michael A. Marks, MD +1-931-561-1668 voice or text MichaelAlanMarks at aol.com Sent from my iPhone From naktalk at lists.naks.com Fri Dec 10 07:31:06 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (ricktrumpetman via Naktalk) Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2021 01:31:06 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Nackamichi Dragon for repair or sale In-Reply-To: <0923431D-904A-4D83-BFCC-74F228B5CCB9@aol.com> Message-ID: <2089071030.443659.1639117870977@aol.com> PM me, please!DwightSent from my Galaxy -------- Original message --------From: Michael via Naktalk Date: 12/10/21 1:06 AM (GMT-05:00) To: naktalk at lists.naks.com Subject: [naktalk] Nackamichi Dragon for repair or sale I have a Nakamichi Dragon Cassette Tape Deck that I have owned since 1986.I recently went to use it and it did not play properly.The counter did not move and the take up real did not provide proper tension to move the tape past the heads.Anyone want to fix it or buy it from me.Frankly I have not used it in about 20 years so I really do not need it.I guess it would be better off in someone else’s system that could get some use out if it.Michael A. 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On Mon, Dec 13, 2021 at 2:17 AM Berndt-Inge Petersson via Naktalk < naktalk at lists.naks.com> wrote: > Hi all, > > > > As I am about to look for a replacement motor for my 600 (SN 3820679) I > wonder if someone knows the original motors specifications for: > > > > Voltage > > RPM > > CCW or CW > > > > Berndt-Inge Petersson > > Sweden > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Mon Dec 13 17:33:44 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Berndt-Inge Petersson via Naktalk) Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2021 16:33:44 +0000 Subject: [naktalk] 600 motor specifications In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Pretty sure. I took the motor apart and the bearing at the pulley end had play both between the shaft and the motor housing. I adjusted the little three-armed metal piece that presses the bearing against the house and it was a little less play there but still play against the shaft. It still vibrates a lot even when without the capstan belt and not driving or rotating anything else. Anybody knows the motors specifications? Berndt-Inge Petersson Från: Thomas R Skickat: den 13 december 2021 15:52 Till: Berndt-Inge Petersson ; Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks Ämne: Re: [naktalk] 600 motor specifications Are you sure your motor is bad ? I’ve had the motor shaft bearing seize up on one of my 600’s and just used a little PB Blaster on the shaft and gently used a pliers to twist it loose and turning again . Tom R. On Mon, Dec 13, 2021 at 2:17 AM Berndt-Inge Petersson via Naktalk > wrote: Hi all, As I am about to look for a replacement motor for my 600 (SN 3820679) I wonder if someone knows the original motors specifications for: Voltage RPM CCW or CW Berndt-Inge Petersson Sweden ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Mon Dec 13 18:21:56 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Dwight Price via Naktalk) Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2021 17:21:56 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [naktalk] 600 motor specifications In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <909522826.682222.1639416116940@mail.yahoo.com> Perry would likely know about the 600 motor so he might be the first place to inquire with regard to the specifications. Are we talking about the Capstan motor or a Reel motor? Nearly all of these motors (Nak is always exceptional, in both good ways and bad) were OEM'ed by Mabuchi, IIRC. It's not impossible (maybe not likely either though) that one of those will sub out if you can get the chassis mounts to line up. If we're talking about the Capstan motor, this site might have some potential for either assistance or parts: http://www.pacificstereo.net/parts.html I have a three-lifetime supply of those Universal Capstan motors.  (I figured I'd be putting way more hours on my machines than I actually have...) They're good, better than original spec replacements IF they'll fit, and IF you need a capstan motor. Best to all, Dwight -----Original Message----- From: Berndt-Inge Petersson via Naktalk To: Thomas R ; Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks Sent: Mon, Dec 13, 2021 11:33 am Subject: Re: [naktalk] 600 motor specifications Pretty sure.   I took the motor apart and the bearing at the pulley end had play both between the shaft and the motor housing. I adjusted the little three-armed metal piece that presses the bearing against the house and it was a little less play there but still play against the shaft. It still vibrates a lot even when without the capstan belt and not driving or rotating anything else.   Anybody knows the motors specifications?   Berndt-Inge Petersson   Från: Thomas R Skickat: den 13 december 2021 15:52 Till: Berndt-Inge Petersson ; Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks Ämne: Re: [naktalk] 600 motor specifications   Are you sure your motor is bad ? I’ve had the motor shaft bearing seize up on one of my 600’s and just used a little PB Blaster on the shaft and gently used a pliers to twist it loose and turning again . Tom R.    On Mon, Dec 13, 2021 at 2:17 AM Berndt-Inge Petersson via Naktalk wrote: Hi all,   As I am about to look for a replacement motor for my 600 (SN 3820679) I wonder if someone knows the original motors specifications for:   Voltage RPM CCW or CW   Berndt-Inge Petersson Sweden ========---------------------------------------------------------=========           Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com ========---------------------------------------------------------=========                         Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= ========---------------------------------------------------------=========           Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com ========---------------------------------------------------------=========                         Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Mon Dec 13 19:11:44 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Berndt-Inge Petersson via Naktalk) Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2021 18:11:44 +0000 Subject: [naktalk] 600 motor specifications In-Reply-To: <909522826.682222.1639416116940@mail.yahoo.com> References: <909522826.682222.1639416116940@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: If Perry or anybody can share some light on the specifications would surely be great. That will help a lot to find a substitute. There’s only one motor i the 600 which drives everything; capstan, reels, counter. I know about the Pacific Stereo UCM and think it will fit as motors of this size have standard mounting. But because shipping from the US to Sweden is very high and there’s also cost for customs, handling and Swedish VAT (25%!) it all adds up quite a lot. If you can part with one of yours, please quote me a price including shipping to Sweden. Note that the shaft diameter must be 2.5 millimeters for the pulley to fit. Berndt-Inge Från: Naktalk För Dwight Price via Naktalk Skickat: den 13 december 2021 18:22 Till: naktalk at lists.naks.com; thomasrmuthmi at gmail.com Ämne: Re: [naktalk] 600 motor specifications Perry would likely know about the 600 motor so he might be the first place to inquire with regard to the specifications. Are we talking about the Capstan motor or a Reel motor? Nearly all of these motors (Nak is always exceptional, in both good ways and bad) were OEM'ed by Mabuchi, IIRC. It's not impossible (maybe not likely either though) that one of those will sub out if you can get the chassis mounts to line up. If we're talking about the Capstan motor, this site might have some potential for either assistance or parts: http://www.pacificstereo.net/parts.html I have a three-lifetime supply of those Universal Capstan motors. (I figured I'd be putting way more hours on my machines than I actually have...) They're good, better than original spec replacements IF they'll fit, and IF you need a capstan motor. Best to all, Dwight -----Original Message----- From: Berndt-Inge Petersson via Naktalk > To: Thomas R >; Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > Sent: Mon, Dec 13, 2021 11:33 am Subject: Re: [naktalk] 600 motor specifications Pretty sure. I took the motor apart and the bearing at the pulley end had play both between the shaft and the motor housing. I adjusted the little three-armed metal piece that presses the bearing against the house and it was a little less play there but still play against the shaft. It still vibrates a lot even when without the capstan belt and not driving or rotating anything else. Anybody knows the motors specifications? Berndt-Inge Petersson Från: Thomas R > Skickat: den 13 december 2021 15:52 Till: Berndt-Inge Petersson >; Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > Ämne: Re: [naktalk] 600 motor specifications Are you sure your motor is bad ? I’ve had the motor shaft bearing seize up on one of my 600’s and just used a little PB Blaster on the shaft and gently used a pliers to twist it loose and turning again . Tom R. On Mon, Dec 13, 2021 at 2:17 AM Berndt-Inge Petersson via Naktalk > wrote: Hi all, As I am about to look for a replacement motor for my 600 (SN 3820679) I wonder if someone knows the original motors specifications for: Voltage RPM CCW or CW Berndt-Inge Petersson Sweden ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Mon Dec 13 19:58:34 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Tom Brucker via Naktalk) Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2021 12:58:34 -0600 Subject: [naktalk] 600 motor specifications In-Reply-To: References: <909522826.682222.1639416116940@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: 3 different motors exist, so you need to post the numbers on the label. Servo boards are different for each motor. I have a used MHX-8B2RSN motor with no servo board that i can sell cheap. Substitute motors will not work, since the motor speed is accelerated in fast wind mode. Wow problems are caused by worn bearings in the idler IF yours has a white nylon arm. 100% of the white version fail. Replacement parts were aluminum with wider bearings. On a worn idler, it is easy to check for wobble using your fingers. On Mon, Dec 13, 2021, 12:11 PM Berndt-Inge Petersson via Naktalk < naktalk at lists.naks.com> wrote: > If Perry or anybody can share some light on the specifications would > surely be great. That will help a lot to find a substitute. > > > > There’s only one motor i the 600 which drives everything; capstan, reels, > counter. I know about the Pacific Stereo UCM and think it will fit as > motors of this size have standard mounting. But because shipping from the > US to Sweden is very high and there’s also cost for customs, handling and > Swedish VAT (25%!) it all adds up quite a lot. > > > > If you can part with one of yours, please quote me a price including > shipping to Sweden. Note that the shaft diameter must be 2.5 millimeters > for the pulley to fit. > > > > Berndt-Inge > > > > *Från:* Naktalk *För *Dwight Price via > Naktalk > *Skickat:* den 13 december 2021 18:22 > *Till:* naktalk at lists.naks.com; thomasrmuthmi at gmail.com > *Ämne:* Re: [naktalk] 600 motor specifications > > > > Perry would likely know about the 600 motor so he might be the first place > to inquire with regard to the specifications. > > > > > > Are we talking about the Capstan motor or a Reel motor? > > > > Nearly all of these motors (Nak is always exceptional, in both good ways > and bad) were OEM'ed by Mabuchi, IIRC. > > > > It's not impossible (maybe not likely either though) that one of those > will sub out if you can get the chassis mounts to line up. > > > > If we're talking about the Capstan motor, this site might have some > potential for either assistance or parts: > > > > http://www.pacificstereo.net/parts.html > > > > I have a three-lifetime supply of those Universal Capstan motors. (I > figured I'd be putting way more hours on my machines than I actually > have...) > > > > They're good, better than original spec replacements IF they'll fit, and > IF you need a capstan motor. > > > > Best to all, > > > > Dwight > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Berndt-Inge Petersson via Naktalk > To: Thomas R ; Talk about Nakamichi Cassette > Decks > Sent: Mon, Dec 13, 2021 11:33 am > Subject: Re: [naktalk] 600 motor specifications > > Pretty sure. > > > > I took the motor apart and the bearing at the pulley end had play both > between the shaft and the motor housing. I adjusted the little three-armed > metal piece that presses the bearing against the house and it was a little > less play there but still play against the shaft. It still vibrates a lot > even when without the capstan belt and not driving or rotating anything > else. > > > > Anybody knows the motors specifications? > > > > Berndt-Inge Petersson > > > > *Från:* Thomas R > *Skickat:* den 13 december 2021 15:52 > *Till:* Berndt-Inge Petersson ; Talk > about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > *Ämne:* Re: [naktalk] 600 motor specifications > > > > Are you sure your motor is bad ? I’ve had the motor shaft bearing seize up > on one of my 600’s and just used a little PB Blaster on the shaft and > gently used a pliers to twist it loose and turning again . Tom R. > > > > On Mon, Dec 13, 2021 at 2:17 AM Berndt-Inge Petersson via Naktalk < > naktalk at lists.naks.com> wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > As I am about to look for a replacement motor for my 600 (SN 3820679) I > wonder if someone knows the original motors specifications for: > > > > Voltage > > RPM > > CCW or CW > > > > Berndt-Inge Petersson > > Sweden > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Tue Dec 14 01:02:54 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Bob Naylor via Naktalk) Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2021 19:02:54 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] FIXED: DR-10 Won't Play In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Nice when it's simple! Bob N On Mon, Dec 13, 2021 at 5:26 PM Jim Judkins via Naktalk < naktalk at lists.naks.com> wrote: > I fixed the non-operating cassette deck. It turned out that there were two > contacts that had basically seized over the years (see pic, arrow points to > one of the two). I separated the contacts, sprayed some contact cleaner on > them, and voila, it works! I forgot how good this thing sounds. > > https://www.dropbox.com/s/lavadrum6eukx6f/Nak%20Contacts.jpg?dl=0 > > Nak Contacts.jpg > > Shared with Dropbox > www.dropbox.com > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Tue Dec 14 04:45:35 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Les Morgan via Naktalk) Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2021 22:45:35 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] FIXED: DR-10 Won't Play In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <206DAC00-B6FE-4DA9-8BF1-829BF8836AE4@twc.com> Great troubleshooting! I agree with Bob—-wonderful when it’s a simple fix! Les Morgan > On Dec 13, 2021, at 7:53 PM, Jim Judkins via Naktalk wrote: > >  > I fixed the non-operating cassette deck. It turned out that there were two contacts that had basically seized over the years (see pic, arrow points to one of the two). I separated the contacts, sprayed some contact cleaner on them, and voila, it works! I forgot how good this thing sounds. > https://www.dropbox.com/s/lavadrum6eukx6f/Nak%20Contacts.jpg?dl=0 > > Nak Contacts.jpg > Shared with Dropbox > www.dropbox.com > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Tue Dec 14 15:13:46 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Berndt-Inge Petersson via Naktalk) Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2021 14:13:46 +0000 Subject: [naktalk] 600 motor specifications In-Reply-To: References: <909522826.682222.1639416116940@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Tom Brucker The label on back of the motor reads: Nakamichi FG-SERVO MHX-8B2RSN Made in japan 19Jul76NB So it seems my deck has the same motor as your used one. However, after I put the deck together last Sunday the speed is all over the place. Running 95% fast in record mode and 51% fast in play mode. Working on it I did run the motor without any capstan belt to verify that vibrations came from it and not from other rotating parts, changed the capstan belt (original 45 years old) and measured DC voltage at the start switch ass’y. Could any of this caused the speed increase or is it that the servo board and/or the servo stuff inside the motor has gone faulty? As you suggested I also checked the idler with my finger and there were no vibrations or wobble despite it being white nylon. Från: Tom Brucker Skickat: den 13 december 2021 19:59 Till: Berndt-Inge Petersson ; Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks Ämne: Re: [naktalk] 600 motor specifications 3 different motors exist, so you need to post the numbers on the label. Servo boards are different for each motor. I have a used MHX-8B2RSN motor with no servo board that i can sell cheap. Substitute motors will not work, since the motor speed is accelerated in fast wind mode. Wow problems are caused by worn bearings in the idler IF yours has a white nylon arm. 100% of the white version fail. Replacement parts were aluminum with wider bearings. On a worn idler, it is easy to check for wobble using your fingers. On Mon, Dec 13, 2021, 12:11 PM Berndt-Inge Petersson via Naktalk > wrote: If Perry or anybody can share some light on the specifications would surely be great. That will help a lot to find a substitute. There’s only one motor i the 600 which drives everything; capstan, reels, counter. I know about the Pacific Stereo UCM and think it will fit as motors of this size have standard mounting. But because shipping from the US to Sweden is very high and there’s also cost for customs, handling and Swedish VAT (25%!) it all adds up quite a lot. If you can part with one of yours, please quote me a price including shipping to Sweden. Note that the shaft diameter must be 2.5 millimeters for the pulley to fit. Berndt-Inge Från: Naktalk > För Dwight Price via Naktalk Skickat: den 13 december 2021 18:22 Till: naktalk at lists.naks.com; thomasrmuthmi at gmail.com Ämne: Re: [naktalk] 600 motor specifications Perry would likely know about the 600 motor so he might be the first place to inquire with regard to the specifications. Are we talking about the Capstan motor or a Reel motor? Nearly all of these motors (Nak is always exceptional, in both good ways and bad) were OEM'ed by Mabuchi, IIRC. It's not impossible (maybe not likely either though) that one of those will sub out if you can get the chassis mounts to line up. If we're talking about the Capstan motor, this site might have some potential for either assistance or parts: http://www.pacificstereo.net/parts.html I have a three-lifetime supply of those Universal Capstan motors. (I figured I'd be putting way more hours on my machines than I actually have...) They're good, better than original spec replacements IF they'll fit, and IF you need a capstan motor. Best to all, Dwight -----Original Message----- From: Berndt-Inge Petersson via Naktalk > To: Thomas R >; Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > Sent: Mon, Dec 13, 2021 11:33 am Subject: Re: [naktalk] 600 motor specifications Pretty sure. I took the motor apart and the bearing at the pulley end had play both between the shaft and the motor housing. I adjusted the little three-armed metal piece that presses the bearing against the house and it was a little less play there but still play against the shaft. It still vibrates a lot even when without the capstan belt and not driving or rotating anything else. Anybody knows the motors specifications? Berndt-Inge Petersson Från: Thomas R > Skickat: den 13 december 2021 15:52 Till: Berndt-Inge Petersson >; Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > Ämne: Re: [naktalk] 600 motor specifications Are you sure your motor is bad ? I’ve had the motor shaft bearing seize up on one of my 600’s and just used a little PB Blaster on the shaft and gently used a pliers to twist it loose and turning again . Tom R. On Mon, Dec 13, 2021 at 2:17 AM Berndt-Inge Petersson via Naktalk > wrote: Hi all, As I am about to look for a replacement motor for my 600 (SN 3820679) I wonder if someone knows the original motors specifications for: Voltage RPM CCW or CW Berndt-Inge Petersson Sweden ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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For sure better to get some some replacement gears so fingers crossed on that. ;) Cheers, Rainer  On Thu, 16 Dec 2021 01:04:47 -0500, Daniel Botelho via Naktalk wrote:   Hey folks,    I know it's a bit of a longshot,  but I'm working on getting a nak MR1 which was run pretty hard by its previous owner.  :(   Is there anyone who might have these gears kicking around or a nak/sankyo 3 head  headblock that they would be willing to sell and ship to me? I'm in the Toronto, Ontario Canada area.    Thanks for reading,   Dan     ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Thu Dec 16 22:08:49 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Glenn Stasky via Naktalk) Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2021 21:08:49 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [naktalk] Nakamichi azimuth/head alignment gears In-Reply-To: <1639666369.w417fkvd28ksogkc@webmail.sasktel.net> References: <43c1ssinqgoueq7n8f7m7mks.1639634687643@gmail.com> <1639666369.w417fkvd28ksogkc@webmail.sasktel.net> Message-ID: <1266236186.1320734.1639688929910@mail.yahoo.com> Why don't you consider 3D printing a new gear? Glenn -----Original Message----- From: Joy-Ell & Rainer via Naktalk To: daniel.botelho at gmail.com; Naktalk Sent: Thu, Dec 16, 2021 6:52 am Subject: Re: [naktalk] Nakamichi azimuth/head alignment gears Hi Daniel, if you can't get new gears (I'm assuming they are stripped) you could maybe try shimming the headblock so that gears are turned in further and using new threads. For sure better to get some some replacement gears so fingers crossed on that. ;) Cheers, Rainer  On Thu, 16 Dec 2021 01:04:47 -0500, Daniel Botelho via Naktalk wrote:  Hey folks,  I know it's a bit of a longshot,  but I'm working on getting a nak MR1 which was run pretty hard by its previous owner.  :( Is there anyone who might have these gears kicking around or a nak/sankyo 3 head  headblock that they would be willing to sell and ship to me? 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Praise the Lord.  Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Thu., 16 Dec. 2021 at 4:13 p.m., Glenn Stasky via Naktalk wrote: ========---------------------------------------------------------=========           Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com ========---------------------------------------------------------=========                         Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Fri Dec 17 19:35:50 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Tom Brucker via Naktalk) Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2021 12:35:50 -0600 Subject: [naktalk] Nakamichi RX 202 In-Reply-To: <020e01d7f2c9$25f35010$71d9f030$@rogers.com> References: <020e01d7f2c9$25f35010$71d9f030$.ref@rogers.com> <020e01d7f2c9$25f35010$71d9f030$@rogers.com> Message-ID: Clean the drawer's mode control pot located under the flat cover behind the mechanism. You will need the service manual to realign everything. Note that the gears have match marks. On Thu, Dec 16, 2021, 11:57 PM via Naktalk wrote: > Hello, I would like some guidance in fixing my RX 202. The problem I am > having is that when I press power I can hear the flip motor running > continuously and eject button will flip the tape instead of eject. Side B > works normally and all other functions. I did replace the Nor Gate IC > thinking is a logic problem and adjusting the mechanism but the problem is > still there. Could you guys point me in the right direction I run out of > ideas. > > > > Thank you and Happy Holidays! > > > > Radu > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Fri Dec 17 19:45:46 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (RADU GHITESCU via Naktalk) Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2021 18:45:46 +0000 Subject: [naktalk] Nakamichi RX 202 In-Reply-To: References: <020e01d7f2c9$25f35010$71d9f030$.ref@rogers.com> <020e01d7f2c9$25f35010$71d9f030$@rogers.com> Message-ID: Hi, thank you for your email. I did clean the pot and realigned the mechanism but no luck. Get Outlook for Android ________________________________ From: Tom Brucker Sent: Friday, December 17, 2021 1:35:50 PM To: r.ghitescu at rogers.com ; Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks Subject: Re: [naktalk] Nakamichi RX 202 Clean the drawer's mode control pot located under the flat cover behind the mechanism. You will need the service manual to realign everything. Note that the gears have match marks. On Thu, Dec 16, 2021, 11:57 PM via Naktalk > wrote: Hello, I would like some guidance in fixing my RX 202. The problem I am having is that when I press power I can hear the flip motor running continuously and eject button will flip the tape instead of eject. Side B works normally and all other functions. I did replace the Nor Gate IC thinking is a logic problem and adjusting the mechanism but the problem is still there. Could you guys point me in the right direction I run out of ideas. Thank you and Happy Holidays! Radu ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Fri Dec 17 20:01:09 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (via Naktalk) Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2021 14:01:09 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Nakamichi RX 202 In-Reply-To: References: <020e01d7f2c9$25f35010$71d9f030$.ref@rogers.com> <020e01d7f2c9$25f35010$71d9f030$@rogers.com> Message-ID: <00d401d7f378$74c74340$5e55c9c0$@rogers.com> Somehow I suspect the problem is in the control circuit (see diagram) but I cannot figure out. From: Naktalk On Behalf Of RADU GHITESCU via Naktalk Sent: December 17, 2021 1:46 PM To: Tom Brucker ; Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks Subject: Re: [naktalk] Nakamichi RX 202 Hi, thank you for your email. I did clean the pot and realigned the mechanism but no luck. Get Outlook for Android _____ From: Tom Brucker > Sent: Friday, December 17, 2021 1:35:50 PM To: r.ghitescu at rogers.com >; Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > Subject: Re: [naktalk] Nakamichi RX 202 Clean the drawer's mode control pot located under the flat cover behind the mechanism. You will need the service manual to realign everything. Note that the gears have match marks. On Thu, Dec 16, 2021, 11:57 PM via Naktalk > wrote: Hello, I would like some guidance in fixing my RX 202. The problem I am having is that when I press power I can hear the flip motor running continuously and eject button will flip the tape instead of eject. Side B works normally and all other functions. I did replace the Nor Gate IC thinking is a logic problem and adjusting the mechanism but the problem is still there. Could you guys point me in the right direction I run out of ideas. Thank you and Happy Holidays! Radu ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Cheers, Richard On 2021-12-17 6:14 p.m., Daniel Botelho via Naktalk wrote: > > Hey guys, > > Just wanted to send a big thanks to the community at large as as well > to Richard Hess, who was able to hook me up with the parts that I > needed for the MR-1 and then some.  😁 > > There's not a lot of nak guys here in the Toronto area, but it was > worth the drive up north to get some nak stuff. > > I could not be more happier. You guys rock!  😎 > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Also check out the wiki!http://wiki.naks.com > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here:http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -- Richard L. Hess email:richard at richardhess.com Aurora, Ontario, Canadahttp://www.richardhess.com/ http://www.richardhess.com/tape/contact.htm Quality tape transfers -- even from hard-to-play tapes. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Sun Dec 19 03:49:26 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (stephen hawk via Naktalk) Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2021 20:49:26 -0600 Subject: [naktalk] DR-1 sluggishness In-Reply-To: <514DA1B6-46C4-46EB-B0B7-7CBCEFD2E183@ziggo.nl> References: <514DA1B6-46C4-46EB-B0B7-7CBCEFD2E183@ziggo.nl> Message-ID: Greetings, Naktalkers.  My DR-1 is still in my rack, but only used occasionally.  I fired it up tonight, and it was...sluggish.  LIke, would play side 1 fine, and then balk at playing side 2.  I've been running it on autorepeat for a couple of hours, and it's getting better.  I'm thinking a little lubrication is all that is needed. Where should I apply the lube, and what kind? Stephen Hawk -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From naktalk at lists.naks.com Sun Dec 19 13:51:20 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (RON HEUER via Naktalk) Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2021 07:51:20 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] DR-1 sluggishness In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi, Sometimes it’s the old lube getting gunked up. I sent mine in to get it degreased and re-lubed. Its a big job, so I had a pro do it. Two years and no issues !! Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 19, 2021, at 12:56 AM, stephen hawk via Naktalk wrote: > > Greetings, Naktalkers. My DR-1 is still in my rack, but only used occasionally. I fired it up tonight, and it was...sluggish. LIke, would play side 1 fine, and then balk at playing side 2. I've been running it on autorepeat for a couple of hours, and it's getting better. I'm thinking a little lubrication is all that is needed. Where should I apply the lube, and what kind? > > Stephen Hawk > > -- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= From naktalk at lists.naks.com Mon Dec 20 05:30:18 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Bob Naylor via Naktalk) Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2021 23:30:18 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Thanks! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Glad you found your parts. 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URL: g:\07. razno\naktalk archive\2021\2021-2.txt ************************************************************************ From naktalk at lists.naks.com Mon Feb 1 08:45:43 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Birger Glosimot via Naktalk) Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2021 08:45:43 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] 480Z doesn't erase In-Reply-To: References: <009301d6f3ff$4e3a1e10$eaae5a30$.ref@aol.com> <009301d6f3ff$4e3a1e10$eaae5a30$@aol.com> , Message-ID: <000b01d6f86e$40d8f660$c28ae320$@tilkoblet.net> Peter You should replace those two transistors. I have had to do that after replacing the two bias caps to bring into record function on one 480 series and one 580 series deck. Before I did recording was almost none existent and old music still remaining on tape. Birger Fra: Naktalk På vegne av Peter Tanner via Naktalk Sendt: søndag 31. januar 2021 23.08 Til: Tom Brucker Kopi: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks Emne: Re: [naktalk] 480Z doesn't erase Those caps have been replaced twice. I'll do it again if necessary. All wiring seems to be correct. I've checked and cleaned the erase head, I don't think it needs any adjustment, it has never been touched before. In any case it used to erase only a couple of weeks ago. It recorded as well albeit not too well. Right now it does not erase at all. It does not record either on a blank cassette although the input signals show on the LEDs. Could it be something to do with the playback/record switch although the deck works just fine in playback? _____ From: Tom Brucker > Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2021 6:02 PM To: Peter Tanner >; Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > Subject: Re: [naktalk] 480Z doesn't erase Hmm. You confirmed that the erase head is connected to the wire. Is the erase head positioned correctly? If you try recording over some music, the record bias will partially erase the original music. If this does not happen, then something is wrong with the bias oscillator transformer. Or, simply replace both 4700pf capacitors in the oscillator because they are leaky. On Sat, Jan 30, 2021, 3:25 PM Peter Tanner via Naktalk > wrote: Hi Cheryl, Glad you are still posting. These caps have been replaced twice now. The last ones are Wimas 100 volt 2% caps. Brand new. This deck sounds great and has no transport issues. So, I don't know. I also have a 582 but somebody asked me to record a few tapes from a set of LPs but he gave me normal bias tapes and in order to avoid the hiss he asked me to do it in Dolby C. This is the only deck I have with C. In the bias oscillator just about everything has been replaced, including the oscillator itself except the two transistors next to it. I can replace them as well but somehow I don't think they are the problem. In any case it doesn't record either which is even more disconcerting as it may be caused by something other than the bias oscillator. Thanks for trying anyway Peter _____ From: Cheryl Kaupp > Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2021 9:46 AM To: 'Peter Tanner' >; 'Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks' > Subject: RE: [naktalk] 480Z doesn't erase Even if the caps were replaced in the past they can still go bad. When I recapped my decks a few of the replacement caps were so far out of range that I tossed them. When my 581 first started acting up, it was doing what you describe. Playback seemed fine but it wasn’t erasing and new recordings were awful and were in fact recorded on top of un-erased tape. It turned out that one of the screws that hold one of the posts that separate the plates had fallen out. Because of that, the tape guides were misaligned and the tape wasn’t contacting the heads properly. I had repair the post and buy Willy’s alignment tool to realign the tape guides. Cheryl From: Naktalk > On Behalf Of Peter Tanner via Naktalk Sent: Friday, January 29, 2021 12:54 PM To: Andrew > Cc: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > Subject: Re: [naktalk] 480Z doesn't erase Done that. No change. Seems there is no current from the erase head connector on the board. There is a couple of ohms of resistance. Caps have been changed. Not sure if it has anything to do with the erase head. I have spares for that too but not the gauges to install it properly. 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URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Mon Feb 1 09:28:15 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (via Naktalk) Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2021 18:28:15 +1000 Subject: [naktalk] 480Z doesn't erase In-Reply-To: <000b01d6f86e$40d8f660$c28ae320$@tilkoblet.net> References: <009301d6f3ff$4e3a1e10$eaae5a30$.ref@aol.com> <009301d6f3ff$4e3a1e10$eaae5a30$@aol.com> , <000b01d6f86e$40d8f660$c28ae320$@tilkoblet.net> Message-ID: <004701d6f874$31449000$93cdb000$@bigpond.com> There is also a 4.7 uf Electrolytic cap in that area that can also be replaced From: Naktalk On Behalf Of Birger Glosimot via Naktalk Sent: Monday, 1 February 2021 5:46 PM To: 'Peter Tanner' ; 'Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks' ; 'Tom Brucker' Subject: Re: [naktalk] 480Z doesn't erase Peter You should replace those two transistors. I have had to do that after replacing the two bias caps to bring into record function on one 480 series and one 580 series deck. Before I did recording was almost none existent and old music still remaining on tape. Birger Fra: Naktalk > På vegne av Peter Tanner via Naktalk Sendt: søndag 31. januar 2021 23.08 Til: Tom Brucker > Kopi: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > Emne: Re: [naktalk] 480Z doesn't erase Those caps have been replaced twice. I'll do it again if necessary. All wiring seems to be correct. I've checked and cleaned the erase head, I don't think it needs any adjustment, it has never been touched before. In any case it used to erase only a couple of weeks ago. It recorded as well albeit not too well. Right now it does not erase at all. It does not record either on a blank cassette although the input signals show on the LEDs. Could it be something to do with the playback/record switch although the deck works just fine in playback? _____ From: Tom Brucker > Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2021 6:02 PM To: Peter Tanner >; Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > Subject: Re: [naktalk] 480Z doesn't erase Hmm. You confirmed that the erase head is connected to the wire. Is the erase head positioned correctly? If you try recording over some music, the record bias will partially erase the original music. If this does not happen, then something is wrong with the bias oscillator transformer. Or, simply replace both 4700pf capacitors in the oscillator because they are leaky. On Sat, Jan 30, 2021, 3:25 PM Peter Tanner via Naktalk > wrote: Hi Cheryl, Glad you are still posting. These caps have been replaced twice now. The last ones are Wimas 100 volt 2% caps. Brand new. This deck sounds great and has no transport issues. So, I don't know. I also have a 582 but somebody asked me to record a few tapes from a set of LPs but he gave me normal bias tapes and in order to avoid the hiss he asked me to do it in Dolby C. This is the only deck I have with C. In the bias oscillator just about everything has been replaced, including the oscillator itself except the two transistors next to it. I can replace them as well but somehow I don't think they are the problem. In any case it doesn't record either which is even more disconcerting as it may be caused by something other than the bias oscillator. Thanks for trying anyway Peter _____ From: Cheryl Kaupp > Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2021 9:46 AM To: 'Peter Tanner' >; 'Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks' > Subject: RE: [naktalk] 480Z doesn't erase Even if the caps were replaced in the past they can still go bad. When I recapped my decks a few of the replacement caps were so far out of range that I tossed them. When my 581 first started acting up, it was doing what you describe. Playback seemed fine but it wasn’t erasing and new recordings were awful and were in fact recorded on top of un-erased tape. It turned out that one of the screws that hold one of the posts that separate the plates had fallen out. Because of that, the tape guides were misaligned and the tape wasn’t contacting the heads properly. I had repair the post and buy Willy’s alignment tool to realign the tape guides. Cheryl From: Naktalk > On Behalf Of Peter Tanner via Naktalk Sent: Friday, January 29, 2021 12:54 PM To: Andrew > Cc: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > Subject: Re: [naktalk] 480Z doesn't erase Done that. No change. Seems there is no current from the erase head connector on the board. There is a couple of ohms of resistance. Caps have been changed. Not sure if it has anything to do with the erase head. I have spares for that too but not the gauges to install it properly. 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The entire supply side pinch roller assembly wasn't move freely on the pin (the pin was moving) and had moved outward so the tape wasn't contacting the record head correctly , The deck played fine.  -----Original Message----- From: via Naktalk To: 'Birger Glosimot' ; 'Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks' ; 'Peter Tanner' ; 'Tom Brucker' Sent: Mon, Feb 1, 2021 3:53 am Subject: Re: [naktalk] 480Z doesn't erase #yiv3255520449 #yiv3255520449 -- _filtered {} _filtered {}#yiv3255520449 #yiv3255520449 p.yiv3255520449MsoNormal, #yiv3255520449 li.yiv3255520449MsoNormal, #yiv3255520449 div.yiv3255520449MsoNormal {margin:0cm;font-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;}#yiv3255520449 a:link, #yiv3255520449 span.yiv3255520449MsoHyperlink {color:blue;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv3255520449 span.yiv3255520449EmailStyle21 {font-family:sans-serif;color:windowtext;}#yiv3255520449 .yiv3255520449MsoChpDefault {font-size:10.0pt;} _filtered {}#yiv3255520449 div.yiv3255520449WordSection1 {}#yiv3255520449 There is also a 4.7 uf Electrolytic cap in that area that can also be replaced   From: Naktalk On Behalf Of Birger Glosimot via Naktalk Sent: Monday, 1 February 2021 5:46 PM To: 'Peter Tanner' ; 'Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks' ; 'Tom Brucker' Subject: Re: [naktalk] 480Z doesn't erase   Peter   You should replace those two transistors. I have had to do that after replacing the two bias caps to bring into record  function on one 480 series and one 580 series deck. Before I did recording was almost none existent and old music still remaining on tape.   Birger     Fra: Naktalk På vegne av Peter Tanner via Naktalk Sendt: søndag 31. januar 2021 23.08 Til: Tom Brucker Kopi: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks Emne: Re: [naktalk] 480Z doesn't erase   Those caps have been replaced twice. I'll do it again if necessary. All wiring seems to be correct. I've checked and cleaned the erase head, I don't think it needs any adjustment, it has never been touched before. In any case it used to erase only a couple of weeks ago. It recorded as well albeit not too well. Right now it does not erase at all. It does not record either on a blank cassette although the input signals show on the LEDs. Could it be something to do with the playback/record switch although the deck works just fine in playback?   From: Tom Brucker Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2021 6:02 PM To: Peter Tanner ; Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks Subject: Re: [naktalk] 480Z doesn't erase   Hmm. You confirmed that the erase head is connected to the wire. Is the erase head positioned correctly? If you try recording over some music, the record bias will partially erase the original music. If this does not happen, then something is wrong with the bias oscillator transformer. Or, simply replace both 4700pf capacitors in the oscillator because they are leaky.   On Sat, Jan 30, 2021, 3:25 PM Peter Tanner via Naktalk wrote: Hi Cheryl,   Glad you are still posting. These caps have been replaced twice now. The last ones are Wimas 100 volt 2% caps. Brand new. This deck sounds great and has no transport issues. So, I don't know. I also have a 582 but somebody asked me to record a few tapes from a set of LPs but he gave me normal bias tapes and in order to avoid the hiss he asked me to do it in Dolby C. This is the only deck I have with C.   In the bias oscillator just about everything has been replaced, including the oscillator itself except the two transistors next to it. I can replace them as well but somehow I don't think they are the problem. In any case it doesn't record either which is even more disconcerting as it may be caused by something other than the bias oscillator. Thanks for trying anyway   Peter   From: Cheryl Kaupp Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2021 9:46 AM To: 'Peter Tanner' ; 'Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks' Subject: RE: [naktalk] 480Z doesn't erase   Even if the caps were replaced in the past they can still go bad. When I recapped my decks a few of the replacement caps were so far out of range that I tossed them.   When my 581 first started acting up, it was doing what you describe. Playback seemed fine but it wasn’t erasing and new recordings were awful and were in fact recorded on top of un-erased tape. It turned out that one of the screws that hold one of the posts that separate the plates had fallen out. Because of that, the tape guides were misaligned and the tape wasn’t contacting the heads properly. I had repair the post and buy Willy’s alignment tool to realign the tape guides. Cheryl     From: Naktalk On Behalf Of Peter Tanner via Naktalk Sent: Friday, January 29, 2021 12:54 PM To: Andrew Cc: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks Subject: Re: [naktalk] 480Z doesn't erase   Done that. No change. Seems there is no current from the erase head connector on the board. There is a couple of ohms of resistance. Caps have been changed. Not sure if it has anything to do with the erase head. I have spares for that too but not the gauges to install it properly. 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URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Mon Feb 1 22:53:37 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Peter Tanner via Naktalk) Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2021 21:53:37 +0000 Subject: [naktalk] 480Z doesn't erase In-Reply-To: <000b01d6f86e$40d8f660$c28ae320$@tilkoblet.net> References: <009301d6f3ff$4e3a1e10$eaae5a30$.ref@aol.com> <009301d6f3ff$4e3a1e10$eaae5a30$@aol.com> , , <000b01d6f86e$40d8f660$c28ae320$@tilkoblet.net> Message-ID: Well, I have done that now but no change. The two caps are changed too. Something strange for sure. It's not mechanical though, I've checked out the transport thoroughly. It is something electronic for sure. I've checked the voltages on the T 301 which is the part I understand responsible for bias in a well working 480 and they are totally different. I guess this is as far as I can go. At least the deck plays well. ________________________________ From: Birger Glosimot Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2021 11:45 PM To: 'Peter Tanner' ; 'Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks' ; 'Tom Brucker' Subject: SV: [naktalk] 480Z doesn't erase Peter You should replace those two transistors. I have had to do that after replacing the two bias caps to bring into record function on one 480 series and one 580 series deck. Before I did recording was almost none existent and old music still remaining on tape. Birger Fra: Naktalk På vegne av Peter Tanner via Naktalk Sendt: søndag 31. januar 2021 23.08 Til: Tom Brucker Kopi: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks Emne: Re: [naktalk] 480Z doesn't erase Those caps have been replaced twice. I'll do it again if necessary. All wiring seems to be correct. I've checked and cleaned the erase head, I don't think it needs any adjustment, it has never been touched before. In any case it used to erase only a couple of weeks ago. It recorded as well albeit not too well. Right now it does not erase at all. It does not record either on a blank cassette although the input signals show on the LEDs. Could it be something to do with the playback/record switch although the deck works just fine in playback? ________________________________ From: Tom Brucker > Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2021 6:02 PM To: Peter Tanner >; Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > Subject: Re: [naktalk] 480Z doesn't erase Hmm. You confirmed that the erase head is connected to the wire. Is the erase head positioned correctly? If you try recording over some music, the record bias will partially erase the original music. If this does not happen, then something is wrong with the bias oscillator transformer. Or, simply replace both 4700pf capacitors in the oscillator because they are leaky. On Sat, Jan 30, 2021, 3:25 PM Peter Tanner via Naktalk > wrote: Hi Cheryl, Glad you are still posting. These caps have been replaced twice now. The last ones are Wimas 100 volt 2% caps. Brand new. This deck sounds great and has no transport issues. So, I don't know. I also have a 582 but somebody asked me to record a few tapes from a set of LPs but he gave me normal bias tapes and in order to avoid the hiss he asked me to do it in Dolby C. This is the only deck I have with C. In the bias oscillator just about everything has been replaced, including the oscillator itself except the two transistors next to it. I can replace them as well but somehow I don't think they are the problem. In any case it doesn't record either which is even more disconcerting as it may be caused by something other than the bias oscillator. Thanks for trying anyway Peter ________________________________ From: Cheryl Kaupp > Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2021 9:46 AM To: 'Peter Tanner' >; 'Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks' > Subject: RE: [naktalk] 480Z doesn't erase Even if the caps were replaced in the past they can still go bad. When I recapped my decks a few of the replacement caps were so far out of range that I tossed them. When my 581 first started acting up, it was doing what you describe. Playback seemed fine but it wasn’t erasing and new recordings were awful and were in fact recorded on top of un-erased tape. It turned out that one of the screws that hold one of the posts that separate the plates had fallen out. Because of that, the tape guides were misaligned and the tape wasn’t contacting the heads properly. I had repair the post and buy Willy’s alignment tool to realign the tape guides. Cheryl From: Naktalk > On Behalf Of Peter Tanner via Naktalk Sent: Friday, January 29, 2021 12:54 PM To: Andrew > Cc: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > Subject: Re: [naktalk] 480Z doesn't erase Done that. No change. Seems there is no current from the erase head connector on the board. There is a couple of ohms of resistance. Caps have been changed. Not sure if it has anything to do with the erase head. I have spares for that too but not the gauges to install it properly. I only have gauges for the record/playback head and the guide height. ________________________________ ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Thu Feb 18 09:13:53 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Guennadi Lyskine via Naktalk) Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2021 21:13:53 +1300 Subject: [naktalk] Azimuth Wire (flat cable) for ZX-7/ZX-9 wanted. Message-ID: <006401d705ce$0090a400$1500a8c0@BedroomPC> Hi all, I'm looking for an azimuth wire (flat blue plastic cable) part number 0C08311A. The same wire is in ZX-7 and ZX-9 decks. This wire is longer than in 680 or Dragon. I've bought a ZX-7 deck on TradeMe "not working, for parts". Main and Logic PCBs had a few cracks. The flat Azimuth Wire damaged. I fixed PCBs. The deck is working now, but I cannot find the Azimuth Wire. Do you have one in your donor decks? Thank you. Best regards, Gennady G e n n L a b http://www.gennlab.com info at gennlab.com Tel: +64 21 238 3056 New Zealand -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com From naktalk at lists.naks.com Thu Feb 18 09:29:40 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Eric MONNOT via Naktalk) Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2021 09:29:40 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] Azimuth Wire (flat cable) for ZX-7/ZX-9 wanted. In-Reply-To: <006401d705ce$0090a400$1500a8c0@BedroomPC> References: <006401d705ce$0090a400$1500a8c0@BedroomPC> Message-ID: There is one blue flat wire to buy on Ebay... Envoyé de mon iPhone > Le 18 févr. 2021 à 09:14, Guennadi Lyskine via Naktalk a écrit : > > Hi all, > > I'm looking for an azimuth wire (flat blue plastic cable) part number 0C08311A. > The same wire is in ZX-7 and ZX-9 decks. This wire is longer than in 680 or Dragon. > > I've bought a ZX-7 deck on TradeMe "not working, for parts". > > Main and Logic PCBs had a few cracks. The flat Azimuth Wire damaged. > > I fixed PCBs. The deck is working now, but I cannot find the Azimuth Wire. > > Do you have one in your donor decks? > > Thank you. > > > Best regards, > > Gennady > > G e n n L a b > http://www.gennlab.com > info at gennlab.com > Tel: +64 21 238 3056 > New Zealand > > -- > This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. > https://www.avg.com > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= From naktalk at lists.naks.com Thu Feb 18 19:02:05 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Guennadi Lyskine via Naktalk) Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2021 07:02:05 +1300 Subject: [naktalk] Azimuth Wire (flat cable) for ZX-7/ZX-9 wanted. References: <006401d705ce$0090a400$1500a8c0@BedroomPC> Message-ID: <002601d70620$2d2f3e70$1500a8c0@BedroomPC> Thanks Eric, That wire is for 680s. It's too short for ZX-7. Best regards, Guennadi Lyskine (Gennady Lyskin) G e n n L a b http://www.gennlab.com info at gennlab.com Tel: +64 21 238 3056 New Zealand ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eric MONNOT" To: "Guennadi Lyskine" ; "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2021 9:29 PM Subject: Re: [naktalk] Azimuth Wire (flat cable) for ZX-7/ZX-9 wanted. There is one blue flat wire to buy on Ebay... Envoyé de mon iPhone > Le 18 févr. 2021 à 09:14, Guennadi Lyskine via Naktalk > a écrit : > > Hi all, > > I'm looking for an azimuth wire (flat blue plastic cable) part number > 0C08311A. > The same wire is in ZX-7 and ZX-9 decks. This wire is longer than in 680 > or Dragon. > > I've bought a ZX-7 deck on TradeMe "not working, for parts". > > Main and Logic PCBs had a few cracks. The flat Azimuth Wire damaged. > > I fixed PCBs. The deck is working now, but I cannot find the Azimuth Wire. > > Do you have one in your donor decks? > > Thank you. > > > Best regards, > > Gennady > > G e n n L a b > http://www.gennlab.com > info at gennlab.com > Tel: +64 21 238 3056 > New Zealand > > -- > This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. > https://www.avg.com > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= From naktalk at lists.naks.com Sun Feb 21 00:00:21 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (David Edwards via Naktalk) Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2021 23:00:21 +0000 Subject: [naktalk] Lubrication Recommendations Please Message-ID: <92120509-1699-c423-049d-dcad4861ff3b@talktalk.net> Hi everyone, I have two cassette deck lubrication issues I would like some recommendations for, I you wouldn't mind. 1. Following my post about repairing a broken tooth on the spindle of my RX505 cassette draw, I used Black Milliput epoxy putty (as recommended), and it looks OK, so far. However, the tooth broke originally due to a the cassette holder not spinning freely (thoroughly cleaned, since), so I thought a  small amount of lubrication might be in order. But I don't want something which will go all gooey in 5 years and cause more damage, so I'm in a bit of a quandary over it. Any recommendations? 2. I need to replace the drive belt on a Sony Walkman, and know that there will be dried up, gooey lube to replace in that as well. Any thoughts on the best product for that operation? Many thanks, David Edwards -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Following my post about repairing a broken tooth on the spindle of my RX505 cassette draw, I used Black Milliput epoxy putty (as recommended), and it looks OK, so far. > > However, the tooth broke originally due to a the cassette holder not spinning freely (thoroughly cleaned, since), so I thought a small amount of lubrication might be in order. But I don't want something which will go all gooey in 5 years and cause more damage, so I'm in a bit of a quandary over it. > > Any recommendations? > > 2. I need to replace the drive belt on a Sony Walkman, and know that there will be dried up, gooey lube to replace in that as well. Any thoughts on the best product for that operation? > > Many thanks, > > David Edwards > > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image0.jpeg Type: image/jpeg Size: 129649 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Mon Feb 22 23:06:22 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Steven Rieker via Naktalk) Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2021 22:06:22 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [naktalk] Marrs Comm Investigation References: <1413091175.1033054.1614031582610.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1413091175.1033054.1614031582610@mail.yahoo.com> I received a letter posted 9 Feb 2021 from the Harris County (TX) District Attorney's office in Houston regarding Consumer Fraud Investigation # 20-60749-CF, regarding multiple complaints against Krista Smith d/b/a Marrs Communications. A questionnaire was included, as well a request for relevant receipts, cancelled checks or other documentation. In my memory, I did not previously contact the DA's office or any gov't entity. I did post to NakTalk in April 2019 regarding receipt of a Marrs belt kit. As to how the DA obtained my name, I can only speculate that either the office has obtained records from Ms. Smith, or possibly has reviewed NakTalk posts. 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URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Tue Feb 23 01:34:51 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Tim Rusling via Naktalk) Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2021 00:34:51 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [naktalk] Marrs Comm Investigation In-Reply-To: <1413091175.1033054.1614031582610@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1413091175.1033054.1614031582610.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1413091175.1033054.1614031582610@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1074079894.1371212.1614040491456@mail.yahoo.com> Such a shame. https://www.linkedin.com/in/krista-smith-17aa01158/ On Monday, February 22, 2021, 05:43:48 p.m. EST, Steven Rieker via Naktalk wrote: I received a letter posted 9 Feb 2021 from the Harris County (TX) District Attorney's office in Houston regarding Consumer Fraud Investigation # 20-60749-CF, regarding multiple complaints against Krista Smith d/b/a Marrs Communications. A questionnaire was included, as well a request for relevant receipts, cancelled checks or other documentation. In my memory, I did not previously contact the DA's office or any gov't entity. I did post to NakTalk in April 2019 regarding receipt of a Marrs belt kit. As to how the DA obtained my name, I can only speculate that either the office has obtained records from Ms. Smith, or possibly has reviewed NakTalk posts. I'm posting this just as a heads-up to list members, as more are likely to be contacted. I don't wish to provoke another takeover of the list regarding this topic, as others have understandably expressed Marrs fatique. Steve Rieker ========---------------------------------------------------------=========           Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com ========---------------------------------------------------------=========                         Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Tue Feb 23 15:44:13 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Mike Kehr via Naktalk) Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2021 09:44:13 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Marrs Comm Investigation In-Reply-To: <1413091175.1033054.1614031582610@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1413091175.1033054.1614031582610.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1413091175.1033054.1614031582610@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hi Steven, I received this thru NAKTALK. I also ordered several belt kits and have not heard from Krista after several attempts to contact her. Communication was great until I paid the invoices,,,, after that nothing. My order was put in over 6 weeks ago. Can you please copy me on the letter so I may be included in this case. I was under the impression that Marrs was a reputable source for belts etc… I purchased from them several years ago with not issues.. Thanks for your help. Mike Kehr On Feb 22, 2021, at 5:06 PM, Steven Rieker via Naktalk wrote: > I received a letter posted 9 Feb 2021 from the Harris County (TX) District Attorney's office in Houston regarding Consumer Fraud Investigation # 20-60749-CF, regarding multiple complaints against Krista Smith d/b/a Marrs Communications. > > A questionnaire was included, as well a request for relevant receipts, cancelled checks or other documentation. > > In my memory, I did not previously contact the DA's office or any gov't entity. I did post to NakTalk in April 2019 regarding receipt of a Marrs belt kit. As to how the DA obtained my name, I can only speculate that either the office has obtained records from Ms. Smith, or possibly has reviewed NakTalk posts. > > I'm posting this just as a heads-up to list members, as more are likely to be contacted. I don't wish to provoke another takeover of the list regarding this topic, as others have understandably expressed Marrs fatique. > > Steve Rieker > > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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PayPal saved me from being burned in both cases > > Marrs is not what it used to be. I thought everyone knew to avoid using marrs for belts.... > > From: naktalk at lists.naks.com > Sent: February 23, 2021 9:44 a.m. > To: srieker at verizon.net; naktalk at lists.naks.com > Reply to: mike.kehr1 at gmail.com; naktalk at lists.naks.com > Subject: Re: [naktalk] Marrs Comm Investigation > > Hi Steven, > > I received this thru NAKTALK. I also ordered several belt kits and have not heard from Krista after several attempts to contact her. Communication was great until I paid the invoices,,,, after that nothing. > My order was put in over 6 weeks ago. Can you please copy me on the letter so I may be included in this case. I was under the impression that Marrs was a reputable source for belts etc… I purchased from them several years ago with not issues.. > > Thanks for your help. > > Mike Kehr > >> On Feb 22, 2021, at 5:06 PM, Steven Rieker via Naktalk wrote: >> >> I received a letter posted 9 Feb 2021 from the Harris County (TX) District Attorney's office in Houston regarding Consumer Fraud Investigation # 20-60749-CF, regarding multiple complaints against Krista Smith d/b/a Marrs Communications. >> >> A questionnaire was included, as well a request for relevant receipts, cancelled checks or other documentation. >> >> In my memory, I did not previously contact the DA's office or any gov't entity. I did post to NakTalk in April 2019 regarding receipt of a Marrs belt kit. 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On 23 Feb 2021, at 14:47, Daniel Botelho via Naktalk wrote: #yiv3485327321 #yiv3485327321response_container_BBPPID{font-family:initial;font-size:initial;color:initial;} About damn time.  I've put 2 orders with them, and both never got shipped after 2 months...and this was a few years ago.  PayPal saved me from being burned in both cases Marrs is not what it used to be.  I thought everyone knew to avoid using marrs for belts.... | From: naktalk at lists.naks.comSent: February 23, 2021 9:44 a.m.To: srieker at verizon.net; naktalk at lists.naks.comReply to: mike.kehr1 at gmail.com; naktalk at lists.naks.comSubject: Re: [naktalk] Marrs Comm Investigation | Hi Steven, I received this thru NAKTALK. I  also ordered several belt kits and have not heard from Krista after several attempts to contact her.  Communication was great until I paid the invoices,,,, after that nothing. My order was put in over 6 weeks ago. Can you please copy me on the letter so I may be included in this case. I was under the impression that Marrs was a reputable source for belts etc… I purchased from them several years ago with not issues.. Thanks for your help. Mike Kehr On Feb 22, 2021, at 5:06 PM, Steven Rieker via Naktalk wrote: I received a letter posted 9 Feb 2021 from the Harris County (TX) District Attorney's office in Houston regarding Consumer Fraud Investigation # 20-60749-CF, regarding multiple complaints against Krista Smith d/b/a Marrs Communications. A questionnaire was included, as well a request for relevant receipts, cancelled checks or other documentation. In my memory, I did not previously contact the DA's office or any gov't entity. I did post to NakTalk in April 2019 regarding receipt of a Marrs belt kit. As to how the DA obtained my name, I can only speculate that either the office has obtained records from Ms. Smith, or possibly has reviewed NakTalk posts. I'm posting this just as a heads-up to list members, as more are likely to be contacted. 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URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Tue Feb 23 19:39:34 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Victor Gabrenas via Naktalk) Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2021 11:39:34 -0700 Subject: [naktalk] Marrs Comm Investigation In-Reply-To: <50005831.1657232.1614103009759@mail.yahoo.com> References: <50005831.1657232.1614103009759@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Could some forward the contact information for the DA? Its not a good sign if they are still excepting orders:( I am on year number two for my order. Vic > On Feb 23, 2021, at 10:56 AM, Tim Rusling via Naktalk wrote: > > So we know they've been a crooked operation . . .but why? Wouldn't running a proper business be the no-brainer way to do things? > > On Tuesday, February 23, 2021, 12:28:08 p.m. EST, Rob Smith via Naktalk wrote: > > > PayPal and eBay banned Marrs more than a decade ago as they had so many complaints. It wasn’t their fault of course - Fred said they always came down on the side of the customer so he stopped selling on there... yet another whopper. > >> On 23 Feb 2021, at 14:47, Daniel Botelho via Naktalk wrote: >> >>  >> About damn time. I've put 2 orders with them, and both never got shipped after 2 months...and this was a few years ago. PayPal saved me from being burned in both cases >> >> Marrs is not what it used to be. I thought everyone knew to avoid using marrs for belts.... >> >> From: naktalk at lists.naks.com >> Sent: February 23, 2021 9:44 a.m. >> To: srieker at verizon.net; naktalk at lists.naks.com >> Reply to: mike.kehr1 at gmail.com; naktalk at lists.naks.com >> Subject: Re: [naktalk] Marrs Comm Investigation >> >> Hi Steven, >> >> I received this thru NAKTALK. I also ordered several belt kits and have not heard from Krista after several attempts to contact her. Communication was great until I paid the invoices,,,, after that nothing. >> My order was put in over 6 weeks ago. Can you please copy me on the letter so I may be included in this case. I was under the impression that Marrs was a reputable source for belts etc… I purchased from them several years ago with not issues.. >> >> Thanks for your help. >> >> Mike Kehr >> >> On Feb 22, 2021, at 5:06 PM, Steven Rieker via Naktalk wrote: >> >>> I received a letter posted 9 Feb 2021 from the Harris County (TX) District Attorney's office in Houston regarding Consumer Fraud Investigation # 20-60749-CF, regarding multiple complaints against Krista Smith d/b/a Marrs Communications. >>> >>> A questionnaire was included, as well a request for relevant receipts, cancelled checks or other documentation. >>> >>> In my memory, I did not previously contact the DA's office or any gov't entity. I did post to NakTalk in April 2019 regarding receipt of a Marrs belt kit. As to how the DA obtained my name, I can only speculate that either the office has obtained records from Ms. Smith, or possibly has reviewed NakTalk posts. >>> >>> I'm posting this just as a heads-up to list members, as more are likely to be contacted. 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Wouldn't running a proper business be the no-brainer way to do things? >> >> On Tuesday, February 23, 2021, 12:28:08 p.m. EST, Rob Smith via Naktalk wrote: >> >> >> PayPal and eBay banned Marrs more than a decade ago as they had so many complaints. It wasn’t their fault of course - Fred said they always came down on the side of the customer so he stopped selling on there... yet another whopper. >> >>> On 23 Feb 2021, at 14:47, Daniel Botelho via Naktalk wrote: >>> >>>  >>> About damn time. I've put 2 orders with them, and both never got shipped after 2 months...and this was a few years ago. PayPal saved me from being burned in both cases >>> >>> Marrs is not what it used to be. I thought everyone knew to avoid using marrs for belts.... >>> >>> From: naktalk at lists.naks.com >>> Sent: February 23, 2021 9:44 a.m. >>> To: srieker at verizon.net; naktalk at lists.naks.com >>> Reply to: mike.kehr1 at gmail.com; naktalk at lists.naks.com >>> Subject: Re: [naktalk] Marrs Comm Investigation >>> >>> Hi Steven, >>> >>> I received this thru NAKTALK. I also ordered several belt kits and have not heard from Krista after several attempts to contact her. Communication was great until I paid the invoices,,,, after that nothing. >>> My order was put in over 6 weeks ago. Can you please copy me on the letter so I may be included in this case. I was under the impression that Marrs was a reputable source for belts etc… I purchased from them several years ago with not issues.. >>> >>> Thanks for your help. >>> >>> Mike Kehr >>> >>> On Feb 22, 2021, at 5:06 PM, Steven Rieker via Naktalk wrote: >>> >>>> I received a letter posted 9 Feb 2021 from the Harris County (TX) District Attorney's office in Houston regarding Consumer Fraud Investigation # 20-60749-CF, regarding multiple complaints against Krista Smith d/b/a Marrs Communications. >>>> >>>> A questionnaire was included, as well a request for relevant receipts, cancelled checks or other documentation. >>>> >>>> In my memory, I did not previously contact the DA's office or any gov't entity. I did post to NakTalk in April 2019 regarding receipt of a Marrs belt kit. As to how the DA obtained my name, I can only speculate that either the office has obtained records from Ms. Smith, or possibly has reviewed NakTalk posts. >>>> >>>> I'm posting this just as a heads-up to list members, as more are likely to be contacted. 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She apologized profusely when she finally responded and said he was moving apartments but that was back in 2019 and if it is still the case then its a shame. She was in Houston and I am in Dallas and I was so frustrated that I was ready to drive down to Houston to get my order. i think she is the daughter of Fred and I am not even sure if Fred is still with us in this world and hence the state we are in  On Mon, Feb 22, 2021 at 6:34 PM Tim Rusling via Naktalk wrote: Such a shame. https://www.linkedin.com/in/krista-smith-17aa01158/ On Monday, February 22, 2021, 05:43:48 p.m. EST, Steven Rieker via Naktalk wrote: I received a letter posted 9 Feb 2021 from the Harris County (TX) District Attorney's office in Houston regarding Consumer Fraud Investigation # 20-60749-CF, regarding multiple complaints against Krista Smith d/b/a Marrs Communications. A questionnaire was included, as well a request for relevant receipts, cancelled checks or other documentation. In my memory, I did not previously contact the DA's office or any gov't entity. I did post to NakTalk in April 2019 regarding receipt of a Marrs belt kit. As to how the DA obtained my name, I can only speculate that either the office has obtained records from Ms. Smith, or possibly has reviewed NakTalk posts. I'm posting this just as a heads-up to list members, as more are likely to be contacted. I don't wish to provoke another takeover of the list regarding this topic, as others have understandably expressed Marrs fatique. 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URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Tue Feb 23 21:48:53 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Marcelo Mansour particular via Naktalk) Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2021 17:48:53 -0300 Subject: [naktalk] RES: Marrs Comm Investigation In-Reply-To: References: <50005831.1657232.1614103009759@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On July 25th 2019 I bought belts with Marrs and until today nothing, I did many posts against them, and now I can see the results. See the Invoice with values that I never received. If somebody knows how I can include my losses to Harris(Texas- Hostoun) let me know it. Best regards, Marcelo F. Mansour -----Mensagem original----- De: Naktalk Em nome de Victor Gabrenas via Naktalk Enviada em: terça-feira, 23 de fevereiro de 2021 15:42 Para: Victor Gabrenas ; Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks Assunto: Re: [naktalk] Marrs Comm Investigation correction accepting orders > On Feb 23, 2021, at 11:39 AM, Victor Gabrenas via Naktalk < naktalk at lists.naks.com> wrote: > > Could some forward the contact information for the DA? Its not a good sign if they are still excepting orders:( I am on year number two for my order. > > Vic > >> On Feb 23, 2021, at 10:56 AM, Tim Rusling via Naktalk < naktalk at lists.naks.com> wrote: >> >> So we know they've been a crooked operation . . .but why? Wouldn't running a proper business be the no-brainer way to do things? >> >> On Tuesday, February 23, 2021, 12:28:08 p.m. EST, Rob Smith via Naktalk < naktalk at lists.naks.com> wrote: >> >> >> PayPal and eBay banned Marrs more than a decade ago as they had so many complaints. It wasn’t their fault of course - Fred said they always came down on the side of the customer so he stopped selling on there... yet another whopper. >> >>> On 23 Feb 2021, at 14:47, Daniel Botelho via Naktalk < naktalk at lists.naks.com> wrote: >>> >>>  >>> About damn time. I've put 2 orders with them, and both never got >>> shipped after 2 months...and this was a few years ago. PayPal saved >>> me from being burned in both cases >>> >>> Marrs is not what it used to be. I thought everyone knew to avoid using marrs for belts.... >>> >>> From: naktalk at lists.naks.com >>> Sent: February 23, 2021 9:44 a.m. >>> To: srieker at verizon.net; naktalk at lists.naks.com Reply to: >>> mike.kehr1 at gmail.com; naktalk at lists.naks.com >>> Subject: Re: [naktalk] Marrs Comm Investigation >>> >>> Hi Steven, >>> >>> I received this thru NAKTALK. I also ordered several belt kits and have not heard from Krista after several attempts to contact her. Communication was great until I paid the invoices,,,, after that nothing. >>> My order was put in over 6 weeks ago. Can you please copy me on the letter so I may be included in this case. I was under the impression that Marrs was a reputable source for belts etc… I purchased from them several years ago with not issues.. >>> >>> Thanks for your help. >>> >>> Mike Kehr >>> >>> On Feb 22, 2021, at 5:06 PM, Steven Rieker via Naktalk < naktalk at lists.naks.com> wrote: >>> >>>> I received a letter posted 9 Feb 2021 from the Harris County (TX) District Attorney's office in Houston regarding Consumer Fraud Investigation # 20-60749-CF, regarding multiple complaints against Krista Smith d/b/a Marrs Communications. >>>> >>>> A questionnaire was included, as well a request for relevant receipts, cancelled checks or other documentation. >>>> >>>> In my memory, I did not previously contact the DA's office or any gov't entity. I did post to NakTalk in April 2019 regarding receipt of a Marrs belt kit. As to how the DA obtained my name, I can only speculate that either the office has obtained records from Ms. Smith, or possibly has reviewed NakTalk posts. >>>> >>>> I'm posting this just as a heads-up to list members, as more are likely to be contacted. I don't wish to provoke another takeover of the list regarding this topic, as others have understandably expressed Marrs fatique. >>>> >>>> Steve Rieker >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ========---------------------------------------------------------========= >>>> Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com >>>> ========---------------------------------------------------------========= >>>> Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain >>>> your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >>>> ========---------------------------------------------------------== >>>> ======= >>> >>> ========---------------------------------------------------------========= >>> Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com >>> ========---------------------------------------------------------========= >>> Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain >>> your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >>> ========---------------------------------------------------------=== >>> ====== >> ========---------------------------------------------------------========= >> Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com >> ========---------------------------------------------------------========= >> Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain >> your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >> ========---------------------------------------------------------==== >> ===== >> ========---------------------------------------------------------========= >> Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com >> ========---------------------------------------------------------========= >> Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain >> your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >> ========---------------------------------------------------------==== >> ===== > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain > your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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She was in Houston and I am in Dallas and I was so frustrated that I was ready to drive down to Houston to get my order. i think she is the daughter of Fred and I am not even sure if Fred is still with us in this world and hence the state we are in On Mon, Feb 22, 2021 at 6:34 PM Tim Rusling via Naktalk < naktalk at lists.naks.com> wrote: > Such a shame. > > https://www.linkedin.com/in/krista-smith-17aa01158/ > > On Monday, February 22, 2021, 05:43:48 p.m. EST, Steven Rieker via Naktalk > wrote: > > > I received a letter posted 9 Feb 2021 from the Harris County (TX) District > Attorney's office in Houston regarding Consumer Fraud Investigation # > 20-60749-CF, regarding multiple complaints against Krista Smith d/b/a Marrs > Communications. > > A questionnaire was included, as well a request for relevant receipts, > cancelled checks or other documentation. > > In my memory, I did not previously contact the DA's office or any gov't > entity. I did post to NakTalk in April 2019 regarding receipt of a Marrs > belt kit. As to how the DA obtained my name, I can only speculate that > either the office has obtained records from Ms. Smith, or possibly has > reviewed NakTalk posts. > > I'm posting this just as a heads-up to list members, as more are likely to > be contacted. 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This should be the simplest operation to run, > no matter how backlogged they are. > > On Tuesday, February 23, 2021, 07:36:41 p.m. EST, Rajiv Pandey < > rajivdallas at gmail.com> wrote: > > > FWIW - I ordered some Nak belts from Krista back in early 2019 and it took > over 7-8 weeks of constant pestering and opening a case with Paypal to grab > her attention. She apologized profusely when she finally responded and said > he was moving apartments but that was back in 2019 and if it is still the > case then its a shame. She was in Houston and I am in Dallas and I was so > frustrated that I was ready to drive down to Houston to get my order. i > think she is the daughter of Fred and I am not even sure if Fred is still > with us in this world and hence the state we are in > > On Mon, Feb 22, 2021 at 6:34 PM Tim Rusling via Naktalk < > naktalk at lists.naks.com> wrote: > > Such a shame. > > https://www.linkedin.com/in/krista-smith-17aa01158/ > > On Monday, February 22, 2021, 05:43:48 p.m. EST, Steven Rieker via Naktalk > wrote: > > > I received a letter posted 9 Feb 2021 from the Harris County (TX) District > Attorney's office in Houston regarding Consumer Fraud Investigation # > 20-60749-CF, regarding multiple complaints against Krista Smith d/b/a Marrs > Communications. > > A questionnaire was included, as well a request for relevant receipts, > cancelled checks or other documentation. > > In my memory, I did not previously contact the DA's office or any gov't > entity. I did post to NakTalk in April 2019 regarding receipt of a Marrs > belt kit. As to how the DA obtained my name, I can only speculate that > either the office has obtained records from Ms. Smith, or possibly has > reviewed NakTalk posts. > > I'm posting this just as a heads-up to list members, as more are likely to > be contacted. 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She was in Houston and I am in Dallas and I was so frustrated that I was ready to drive down to Houston to get my order. i think she is the daughter of Fred and I am not even sure if Fred is still with us in this world and hence the state we are in > >> On Mon, Feb 22, 2021 at 6:34 PM Tim Rusling via Naktalk wrote: >> Such a shame. >> >> https://www.linkedin.com/in/krista-smith-17aa01158/ >> >> On Monday, February 22, 2021, 05:43:48 p.m. EST, Steven Rieker via Naktalk wrote: >> >> >> I received a letter posted 9 Feb 2021 from the Harris County (TX) District Attorney's office in Houston regarding Consumer Fraud Investigation # 20-60749-CF, regarding multiple complaints against Krista Smith d/b/a Marrs Communications. >> >> A questionnaire was included, as well a request for relevant receipts, cancelled checks or other documentation. >> >> In my memory, I did not previously contact the DA's office or any gov't entity. I did post to NakTalk in April 2019 regarding receipt of a Marrs belt kit. As to how the DA obtained my name, I can only speculate that either the office has obtained records from Ms. Smith, or possibly has reviewed NakTalk posts. >> >> I'm posting this just as a heads-up to list members, as more are likely to be contacted. 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Interestingly, the website is still up-and-running. http://marrscommunications.com/ And Krista has a new email address too. marrskrista0105 at gmail.com And of course, she continues to warn customers, again and again, there will be delays in getting their order due to not doing this or not doing that and for the last year, C19 delays because they have delays in getting the products from their suppliers. But as always, nowhere does is state they’re OOS on any product. And I love the “help” being offered to expedite orders, by just sending Krista a pic of a signed personal cheque as that can be banked using an app! Unbelievable - she’s still ripping people off. > On 24 Feb 2021, at 06:17, N.van.wijnen at ziggo.nl via Naktalk wrote: > > Hi , > You are right, > Krista is the daughter of Fred and Fred past away. > I think that continuing the business did not work out the way Krista thought. They should remove the website from the internet much earlier . > Best regards, > Norman > > Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad > >> Op 24 feb. 2021 om 02:09 heeft Rajiv Pandey via Naktalk het volgende geschreven: >> >>  >> FWIW - I ordered some Nak belts from Krista back in early 2019 and it took over 7-8 weeks of constant pestering and opening a case with Paypal to grab her attention. She apologized profusely when she finally responded and said he was moving apartments but that was back in 2019 and if it is still the case then its a shame. She was in Houston and I am in Dallas and I was so frustrated that I was ready to drive down to Houston to get my order. i think she is the daughter of Fred and I am not even sure if Fred is still with us in this world and hence the state we are in >> >>> On Mon, Feb 22, 2021 at 6:34 PM Tim Rusling via Naktalk wrote: >>> Such a shame. >>> >>> https://www.linkedin.com/in/krista-smith-17aa01158/ >>> >>> On Monday, February 22, 2021, 05:43:48 p.m. EST, Steven Rieker via Naktalk wrote: >>> >>> >>> I received a letter posted 9 Feb 2021 from the Harris County (TX) District Attorney's office in Houston regarding Consumer Fraud Investigation # 20-60749-CF, regarding multiple complaints against Krista Smith d/b/a Marrs Communications. >>> >>> A questionnaire was included, as well a request for relevant receipts, cancelled checks or other documentation. >>> >>> In my memory, I did not previously contact the DA's office or any gov't entity. I did post to NakTalk in April 2019 regarding receipt of a Marrs belt kit. As to how the DA obtained my name, I can only speculate that either the office has obtained records from Ms. Smith, or possibly has reviewed NakTalk posts. >>> >>> I'm posting this just as a heads-up to list members, as more are likely to be contacted. 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I did that with Marrs and with a few other questionable ones from China and you have a safety net as you can claim via Paypal...I got my money back with a vendor who closed shop because I had paid via Paypal On Tue, Feb 23, 2021 at 6:59 PM Marcelo Mansour particular via Naktalk < naktalk at lists.naks.com> wrote: > On July 25th 2019 I bought belts with Marrs and until today nothing, I did > many posts against them, and now I can see the results. > > See the Invoice with values that I never received. > > If somebody knows how I can include my losses to Harris(Texas- Hostoun) > let me know it. > > > > Best regards, > > > > Marcelo F. Mansour > > > > -----Mensagem original----- > De: Naktalk Em nome de Victor Gabrenas > via Naktalk > Enviada em: terça-feira, 23 de fevereiro de 2021 15:42 > Para: Victor Gabrenas ; Talk about Nakamichi > Cassette Decks > Assunto: Re: [naktalk] Marrs Comm Investigation > > > > correction accepting orders > > > > > On Feb 23, 2021, at 11:39 AM, Victor Gabrenas via Naktalk < > naktalk at lists.naks.com> wrote: > > > > > > Could some forward the contact information for the DA? Its not a good > sign if they are still excepting orders:( I am on year number two for my > order. > > > > > > Vic > > > > > >> On Feb 23, 2021, at 10:56 AM, Tim Rusling via Naktalk < > naktalk at lists.naks.com> wrote: > > >> > > >> So we know they've been a crooked operation . . .but why? Wouldn't > running a proper business be the no-brainer way to do things? > > >> > > >> On Tuesday, February 23, 2021, 12:28:08 p.m. EST, Rob Smith via Naktalk > wrote: > > >> > > >> > > >> PayPal and eBay banned Marrs more than a decade ago as they had so many > complaints. It wasn’t their fault of course - Fred said they always came > down on the side of the customer so he stopped selling on there... yet > another whopper. > > >> > > >>> On 23 Feb 2021, at 14:47, Daniel Botelho via Naktalk < > naktalk at lists.naks.com> wrote: > > >>> > > >>>  > > >>> About damn time. I've put 2 orders with them, and both never got > > >>> shipped after 2 months...and this was a few years ago. PayPal saved > > >>> me from being burned in both cases > > >>> > > >>> Marrs is not what it used to be. I thought everyone knew to avoid > using marrs for belts.... > > >>> > > >>> From: naktalk at lists.naks.com > > >>> Sent: February 23, 2021 9:44 a.m. > > >>> To: srieker at verizon.net; naktalk at lists.naks.com Reply to: > > >>> mike.kehr1 at gmail.com; naktalk at lists.naks.com > > >>> Subject: Re: [naktalk] Marrs Comm Investigation > > >>> > > >>> Hi Steven, > > >>> > > >>> I received this thru NAKTALK. I also ordered several belt kits and > have not heard from Krista after several attempts to contact her. > Communication was great until I paid the invoices,,,, after that nothing. > > >>> My order was put in over 6 weeks ago. Can you please copy me on the > letter so I may be included in this case. I was under the impression that > Marrs was a reputable source for belts etc… I purchased from them several > years ago with not issues.. > > >>> > > >>> Thanks for your help. > > >>> > > >>> Mike Kehr > > >>> > > >>> On Feb 22, 2021, at 5:06 PM, Steven Rieker via Naktalk < > naktalk at lists.naks.com> wrote: > > >>> > > >>>> I received a letter posted 9 Feb 2021 from the Harris County (TX) > District Attorney's office in Houston regarding Consumer Fraud > Investigation # 20-60749-CF, regarding multiple complaints against Krista > Smith d/b/a Marrs Communications. > > >>>> > > >>>> A questionnaire was included, as well a request for relevant > receipts, cancelled checks or other documentation. > > >>>> > > >>>> In my memory, I did not previously contact the DA's office or any > gov't entity. I did post to NakTalk in April 2019 regarding receipt of a > Marrs belt kit. As to how the DA obtained my name, I can only speculate > that either the office has obtained records from Ms. Smith, or possibly has > reviewed NakTalk posts. > > >>>> > > >>>> I'm posting this just as a heads-up to list members, as more are > likely to be contacted. I don't wish to provoke another takeover of the > list regarding this topic, as others have understandably expressed Marrs > fatique. > > >>>> > > >>>> Steve Rieker > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > >>>> Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > > >>>> > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > >>>> Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain > > >>>> your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > > >>>> ========---------------------------------------------------------== > > >>>> ======= > > >>> > > >>> > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > >>> Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > > >>> > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > >>> Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain > > >>> your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > > >>> ========---------------------------------------------------------=== > > >>> ====== > > >> > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > >> Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > > >> > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > >> Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain > > >> your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > > >> ========---------------------------------------------------------==== > > >> ===== > > >> > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > >> Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > > >> > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > >> Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain > > >> your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > > >> ========---------------------------------------------------------==== > > >> ===== > > > > > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain > > > your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Unfortunately, I don’t know how Naktalk works to get these to other members. http://www.tapeheads.net/showthread.php?t=84405 http://www.tapeheads.net/showthread.php?t=81989 http://www.tapeheads.net/showthread.php?t=85900 http://www.tapeheads.net/showthread.php?t=47507 > On 24 Feb 2021, at 01:21, Tom Brucker via Naktalk wrote: > > Fred died last year. A couple of us technicians have offered to assist Krista, but she did not respond. The best we can do right now is identify reliable quality belt sources and spread the word. > >> On Tue, Feb 23, 2021, 6:49 PM Tim Rusling via Naktalk wrote: >> The whole story is unreal. This should be the simplest operation to run, no matter how backlogged they are. >> >> On Tuesday, February 23, 2021, 07:36:41 p.m. EST, Rajiv Pandey wrote: >> >> >> FWIW - I ordered some Nak belts from Krista back in early 2019 and it took over 7-8 weeks of constant pestering and opening a case with Paypal to grab her attention. She apologized profusely when she finally responded and said he was moving apartments but that was back in 2019 and if it is still the case then its a shame. She was in Houston and I am in Dallas and I was so frustrated that I was ready to drive down to Houston to get my order. i think she is the daughter of Fred and I am not even sure if Fred is still with us in this world and hence the state we are in >> >> On Mon, Feb 22, 2021 at 6:34 PM Tim Rusling via Naktalk wrote: >> Such a shame. >> >> https://www.linkedin.com/in/krista-smith-17aa01158/ >> >> On Monday, February 22, 2021, 05:43:48 p.m. EST, Steven Rieker via Naktalk wrote: >> >> >> I received a letter posted 9 Feb 2021 from the Harris County (TX) District Attorney's office in Houston regarding Consumer Fraud Investigation # 20-60749-CF, regarding multiple complaints against Krista Smith d/b/a Marrs Communications. >> >> A questionnaire was included, as well a request for relevant receipts, cancelled checks or other documentation. >> >> In my memory, I did not previously contact the DA's office or any gov't entity. I did post to NakTalk in April 2019 regarding receipt of a Marrs belt kit. As to how the DA obtained my name, I can only speculate that either the office has obtained records from Ms. Smith, or possibly has reviewed NakTalk posts. >> >> I'm posting this just as a heads-up to list members, as more are likely to be contacted. 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I’m really looking forward to to hearing the outcome of the investigation.  Interestingly, the website is still up-and-running.http://marrscommunications.com/ And Krista has a new email address too.marrskrista0105 at gmail.com And of course, she continues to warn customers, again and again, there will be delays in getting their order due to not doing this or not doing that and for the last year, C19 delays because they have delays in getting the products from their suppliers. But as always, nowhere does is state they’re OOS on any product. And I love the “help” being offered to expedite orders, by just sending Krista a pic of a signed personal cheque as that can be banked using an app! Unbelievable - she’s still ripping people off.  On 24 Feb 2021, at 06:17, N.van.wijnen at ziggo.nl via Naktalk wrote: Hi ,You are right,Krista is the daughter of Fred and Fred past away.I think that continuing  the business did not work out the way Krista thought. They should remove the website from the internet much earlier . Best regards,Norman Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad Op 24 feb. 2021 om 02:09 heeft Rajiv Pandey via Naktalk het volgende geschreven: FWIW - I ordered some Nak belts from Krista back in early 2019 and it took over 7-8 weeks of constant pestering and opening a case with Paypal to grab her attention. She apologized profusely when she finally responded and said he was moving apartments but that was back in 2019 and if it is still the case then its a shame. She was in Houston and I am in Dallas and I was so frustrated that I was ready to drive down to Houston to get my order. i think she is the daughter of Fred and I am not even sure if Fred is still with us in this world and hence the state we are in  On Mon, Feb 22, 2021 at 6:34 PM Tim Rusling via Naktalk wrote: Such a shame. https://www.linkedin.com/in/krista-smith-17aa01158/ On Monday, February 22, 2021, 05:43:48 p.m. EST, Steven Rieker via Naktalk wrote: I received a letter posted 9 Feb 2021 from the Harris County (TX) District Attorney's office in Houston regarding Consumer Fraud Investigation # 20-60749-CF, regarding multiple complaints against Krista Smith d/b/a Marrs Communications. A questionnaire was included, as well a request for relevant receipts, cancelled checks or other documentation. In my memory, I did not previously contact the DA's office or any gov't entity. I did post to NakTalk in April 2019 regarding receipt of a Marrs belt kit. 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When she ships that is…. I ask that we keep posting on this topic as low profile on this forum as other members have expressed concern. I only wish to provide information so affected NakTalk members can take action. Sincerely, mike kehr On Feb 23, 2021, at 3:48 PM, Marcelo Mansour particular via Naktalk wrote: > On July 25th 2019 I bought belts with Marrs and until today nothing, I did many posts against them, and now I can see the results. > See the Invoice with values that I never received. > If somebody knows how I can include my losses to Harris(Texas- Hostoun) let me know it. > > > Best regards, > > Marcelo F. Mansour > > -----Mensagem original----- > De: Naktalk Em nome de Victor Gabrenas via Naktalk > Enviada em: terça-feira, 23 de fevereiro de 2021 15:42 > Para: Victor Gabrenas ; Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > Assunto: Re: [naktalk] Marrs Comm Investigation > > correction accepting orders > > > On Feb 23, 2021, at 11:39 AM, Victor Gabrenas via Naktalk wrote: > > > > Could some forward the contact information for the DA? Its not a good sign if they are still excepting orders:( I am on year number two for my order. > > > > Vic > > > >> On Feb 23, 2021, at 10:56 AM, Tim Rusling via Naktalk wrote: > >> > >> So we know they've been a crooked operation . . .but why? Wouldn't running a proper business be the no-brainer way to do things? > >> > >> On Tuesday, February 23, 2021, 12:28:08 p.m. EST, Rob Smith via Naktalk wrote: > >> > >> > >> PayPal and eBay banned Marrs more than a decade ago as they had so many complaints. It wasn’t their fault of course - Fred said they always came down on the side of the customer so he stopped selling on there... yet another whopper. > >> > >>> On 23 Feb 2021, at 14:47, Daniel Botelho via Naktalk wrote: > >>> > >>>  > >>> About damn time. I've put 2 orders with them, and both never got > >>> shipped after 2 months...and this was a few years ago. PayPal saved > >>> me from being burned in both cases > >>> > >>> Marrs is not what it used to be. I thought everyone knew to avoid using marrs for belts.... > >>> > >>> From: naktalk at lists.naks.com > >>> Sent: February 23, 2021 9:44 a.m. > >>> To: srieker at verizon.net; naktalk at lists.naks.com Reply to: > >>> mike.kehr1 at gmail.com; naktalk at lists.naks.com > >>> Subject: Re: [naktalk] Marrs Comm Investigation > >>> > >>> Hi Steven, > >>> > >>> I received this thru NAKTALK. I also ordered several belt kits and have not heard from Krista after several attempts to contact her. Communication was great until I paid the invoices,,,, after that nothing. > >>> My order was put in over 6 weeks ago. Can you please copy me on the letter so I may be included in this case. I was under the impression that Marrs was a reputable source for belts etc… I purchased from them several years ago with not issues.. > >>> > >>> Thanks for your help. > >>> > >>> Mike Kehr > >>> > >>> On Feb 22, 2021, at 5:06 PM, Steven Rieker via Naktalk wrote: > >>> > >>>> I received a letter posted 9 Feb 2021 from the Harris County (TX) District Attorney's office in Houston regarding Consumer Fraud Investigation # 20-60749-CF, regarding multiple complaints against Krista Smith d/b/a Marrs Communications. > >>>> > >>>> A questionnaire was included, as well a request for relevant receipts, cancelled checks or other documentation. > >>>> > >>>> In my memory, I did not previously contact the DA's office or any gov't entity. I did post to NakTalk in April 2019 regarding receipt of a Marrs belt kit. As to how the DA obtained my name, I can only speculate that either the office has obtained records from Ms. Smith, or possibly has reviewed NakTalk posts. > >>>> > >>>> I'm posting this just as a heads-up to list members, as more are likely to be contacted. I don't wish to provoke another takeover of the list regarding this topic, as others have understandably expressed Marrs fatique. > >>>> > >>>> Steve Rieker > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > >>>> Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > >>>> ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > >>>> Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain > >>>> your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > >>>> ========---------------------------------------------------------== > >>>> ======= > >>> > >>> ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > >>> Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > >>> ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > >>> Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain > >>> your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > >>> ========---------------------------------------------------------=== > >>> ====== > >> ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > >> Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > >> ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > >> Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain > >> your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > >> ========---------------------------------------------------------==== > >> ===== > >> ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > >> Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > >> ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > >> Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain > >> your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > >> ========---------------------------------------------------------==== > >> ===== > > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain > > your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Wed Feb 24 16:01:21 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (via Naktalk) Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2021 15:01:21 -0000 Subject: [naktalk] RES: Marrs Comm Investigation In-Reply-To: References: <50005831.1657232.1614103009759@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <00d201d70abd$e9e1b920$bda52b60$@sky.com> Not sure but I think they’d been stopped from using PayPal by 2019? And of course, Fred didn’t like PayPal either, as customers would automatically be refunded by PP in the event of no shows, which was contrary to their business model. From: Naktalk On Behalf Of Rajiv Pandey via Naktalk Sent: 24 February 2021 01:02 To: Marcelo Mansour particular ; Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks Subject: Re: [naktalk] RES: Marrs Comm Investigation First mistake you did was pay using your CC - in such shady situations its best to pay via Paypal (which I have routed to my CC). I did that with Marrs and with a few other questionable ones from China and you have a safety net as you can claim via Paypal...I got my money back with a vendor who closed shop because I had paid via Paypal On Tue, Feb 23, 2021 at 6:59 PM Marcelo Mansour particular via Naktalk > wrote: On July 25th 2019 I bought belts with Marrs and until today nothing, I did many posts against them, and now I can see the results. See the Invoice with values that I never received. If somebody knows how I can include my losses to Harris(Texas- Hostoun) let me know it. Best regards, Marcelo F. Mansour -----Mensagem original----- De: Naktalk > Em nome de Victor Gabrenas via Naktalk Enviada em: terça-feira, 23 de fevereiro de 2021 15:42 Para: Victor Gabrenas >; Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > Assunto: Re: [naktalk] Marrs Comm Investigation correction accepting orders > On Feb 23, 2021, at 11:39 AM, Victor Gabrenas via Naktalk < naktalk at lists.naks.com> wrote: > > Could some forward the contact information for the DA? Its not a good sign if they are still excepting orders:( I am on year number two for my order. > > Vic > >> On Feb 23, 2021, at 10:56 AM, Tim Rusling via Naktalk < naktalk at lists.naks.com> wrote: >> >> So we know they've been a crooked operation . . .but why? Wouldn't running a proper business be the no-brainer way to do things? >> >> On Tuesday, February 23, 2021, 12:28:08 p.m. EST, Rob Smith via Naktalk < naktalk at lists.naks.com> wrote: >> >> >> PayPal and eBay banned Marrs more than a decade ago as they had so many complaints. It wasn’t their fault of course - Fred said they always came down on the side of the customer so he stopped selling on there... yet another whopper. >> >>> On 23 Feb 2021, at 14:47, Daniel Botelho via Naktalk < naktalk at lists.naks.com> wrote: >>> >>>  >>> About damn time. I've put 2 orders with them, and both never got >>> shipped after 2 months...and this was a few years ago. PayPal saved >>> me from being burned in both cases >>> >>> Marrs is not what it used to be. I thought everyone knew to avoid using marrs for belts.... >>> >>> From: naktalk at lists.naks.com >>> Sent: February 23, 2021 9:44 a.m. >>> To: srieker at verizon.net; naktalk at lists.naks.com Reply to: >>> mike.kehr1 at gmail.com; naktalk at lists.naks.com >>> Subject: Re: [naktalk] Marrs Comm Investigation >>> >>> Hi Steven, >>> >>> I received this thru NAKTALK. I also ordered several belt kits and have not heard from Krista after several attempts to contact her. Communication was great until I paid the invoices,,,, after that nothing. >>> My order was put in over 6 weeks ago. Can you please copy me on the letter so I may be included in this case. I was under the impression that Marrs was a reputable source for belts etc… I purchased from them several years ago with not issues.. >>> >>> Thanks for your help. >>> >>> Mike Kehr >>> >>> On Feb 22, 2021, at 5:06 PM, Steven Rieker via Naktalk < naktalk at lists.naks.com> wrote: >>> >>>> I received a letter posted 9 Feb 2021 from the Harris County (TX) District Attorney's office in Houston regarding Consumer Fraud Investigation # 20-60749-CF, regarding multiple complaints against Krista Smith d/b/a Marrs Communications. >>>> >>>> A questionnaire was included, as well a request for relevant receipts, cancelled checks or other documentation. >>>> >>>> In my memory, I did not previously contact the DA's office or any gov't entity. I did post to NakTalk in April 2019 regarding receipt of a Marrs belt kit. As to how the DA obtained my name, I can only speculate that either the office has obtained records from Ms. Smith, or possibly has reviewed NakTalk posts. >>>> >>>> I'm posting this just as a heads-up to list members, as more are likely to be contacted. I don't wish to provoke another takeover of the list regarding this topic, as others have understandably expressed Marrs fatique. >>>> >>>> Steve Rieker >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ========---------------------------------------------------------========= >>>> Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com >>>> ========---------------------------------------------------------========= >>>> Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain >>>> your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >>>> ========---------------------------------------------------------== >>>> ======= >>> >>> ========---------------------------------------------------------========= >>> Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com >>> ========---------------------------------------------------------========= >>> Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain >>> your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >>> ========---------------------------------------------------------=== >>> ====== >> ========---------------------------------------------------------========= >> Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com >> ========---------------------------------------------------------========= >> Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain >> your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >> ========---------------------------------------------------------==== >> ===== >> ========---------------------------------------------------------========= >> Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com >> ========---------------------------------------------------------========= >> Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain >> your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >> ========---------------------------------------------------------==== >> ===== > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain > your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Wed Feb 24 21:52:08 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Les Morgan via Naktalk) Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2021 15:52:08 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Lubrication Recommendations In-Reply-To: <20210224153337.4A11F22296@mail.zxe.be> References: <20210224153337.4A11F22296@mail.zxe.be> Message-ID: <929C1671-B2B2-4697-A342-A38462DAAE73@twc.com> I would second that choice of Lubriplate 105 Pax Domini Sit Semper Vobiscum Et Illegitimi Non Carborundum > On Feb 24, 2021, at 2:49 PM, Rob Smith via Naktalk wrote: > >  > Wonder if Lubriplate 105 would be a suitable alternative? > > Sent from Mail for Windows 10 > > From: David Edwards via Naktalk > Sent: 24 February 2021 11:06 > To: Naktalk > Subject: Re: [naktalk] Lubrication Recommendations > > Many thanks to both Perry and Les for your lubrication recommendations. > > Needless to say, the GC Electronics White Lithium Grease seems unobtainable in the UK, but there are other brands: - I'll investigate. > > 3-in-1 do a spray can, but you never quite know whether the stuff is the same if it's designed to be sprayed. > > Anyway, thanks for the replies. I now know what I should be looking at for both these jobs. > > David Edwards > > > > Virus-free. www.avast.com > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Thu Feb 25 03:01:49 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Les Morgan via Naktalk) Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2021 21:01:49 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Lubrication Recommendations In-Reply-To: <929C1671-B2B2-4697-A342-A38462DAAE73@twc.com> References: <929C1671-B2B2-4697-A342-A38462DAAE73@twc.com> Message-ID: No, I did not say that!! 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From: Naktalk on behalf of Rob Smith via Naktalk Sent: 24 February 2021 3:29 PM To: David Edwards ; Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks Subject: Re: [naktalk] Lubrication Recommendations Wonder if Lubriplate 105 would be a suitable alternative? Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: David Edwards via Naktalk Sent: 24 February 2021 11:06 To: Naktalk Subject: Re: [naktalk] Lubrication Recommendations Many thanks to both Perry and Les for your lubrication recommendations. Needless to say, the GC Electronics White Lithium Grease seems unobtainable in the UK, but there are other brands: - I'll investigate. 3-in-1 do a spray can, but you never quite know whether the stuff is the same if it's designed to be sprayed. Anyway, thanks for the replies. I now know what I should be looking at for both these jobs. 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David On 02/03/2021 05:17, Jon Jonssen via Naktalk wrote: > David, > CPC do a grease for plastics - Order code SASPG35SL > Also other greases such as lithium - example SA02670, general purpose > - example ME18004 (which I've used on metal and plastic) and other > greases and lubs such as silicone, ptfe. Check the website. > https://cpc.farnell.com (note the min. order > value for free delivery, but you can include out-of-stock items within > that value, they just turn up separately later on when back in stock.) > Jon. > > > > > > *From:* Naktalk on behalf of Rob > Smith via Naktalk > *Sent:* 24 February 2021 3:29 PM > *To:* David Edwards ; Talk about > Nakamichi Cassette Decks > *Subject:* Re: [naktalk] Lubrication Recommendations > > Wonder if Lubriplate 105 would be a suitable alternative? > > Sent from Mail for > Windows 10 > > *From: *David Edwards via Naktalk > *Sent: *24 February 2021 11:06 > *To: *Naktalk > *Subject: *Re: [naktalk] Lubrication Recommendations > > Many thanks to both Perry and Les for your lubrication recommendations. > > Needless to say, the GC Electronics White Lithium Grease seems > unobtainable in the UK, but there are other brands: - I'll investigate. > > 3-in-1 do a spray can, but you never quite know whether the stuff is > the same if it's designed to be sprayed. > > Anyway, thanks for the replies. 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I set it up again and realized during the new W&F measurement that nothing changed, it took me two hours to realize that the flywheel tape-up was very oval and causing the excessive W&F, now my friends I need the right dimensions because I see a way to rectify the cylinder and try to reduce this oval part of the flywheel. I looked for a new flywheel but I didn't find it, and all help is welcome !!! Best regards, Marcelo Mansour -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Thu Mar 11 23:05:36 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Tom Brucker via Naktalk) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2021 16:05:36 -0600 Subject: [naktalk] CR30-tape-up flywheeel problems In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Do you know the USA model number for the deck? When removing any of the flywheel, it is important to support it well as it is removed. You do not want to bend the capstan. On Thu, Mar 11, 2021, 10:11 AM Marcelo Mansour particular via Naktalk < naktalk at lists.naks.com> wrote: > Hello everyone, > > > > I want to report a problem that has never happened to me yet, in the > repair of CR-30 after all the maintenance I had a good surprise. > > > > - disassembly of the mechanism > > - cleaning all motors > > - mechanical adjustments > > - head / azimuth adjustments > > - bias verification and calibration and equalization > > - wow and flutter check ?? ops this gave a very high value ??? almost 0.7% > using the reference that I have a T100. > > > > I disassembled the whole mechanism again, because something went wrong and > I found nothing yet. > > > > I set it up again and realized during the new W&F measurement that nothing > changed, it took me two hours to realize that the flywheel tape-up was very > oval and causing the excessive W&F, now my friends I need the right > dimensions because I see a way to rectify the cylinder and try to reduce > this oval part of the flywheel. > > > > I looked for a new flywheel but I didn't find it, and all help is welcome > !!! > > > > Best regards, > > > > Marcelo Mansour > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Regards, Em 12 de março de 2021, à(s) 22:12, Daniel Botelho via Naktalk escreveu: #response_container_BBPPID{font-family: initial;font-size: initial;color: initial;} CR-30 is identical to the CR-3a...it's your typical sankyo dual capstan  I'd imagine that it's the same flywheels that are on the CD-1/1.5 or DR10... From: naktalk at lists.naks.com Sent: March 12, 2021 7:42 p.m. To: marcelo.mansour at terra.com.br; naktalk at lists.naks.com Reply to: nakdoc77 at gmail.com; naktalk at lists.naks.com Subject: Re: [naktalk] CR30-tape-up flywheeel problems Do you know the USA model number for the deck?  When removing any of the flywheel, it is important to support it well as it is removed. You do not want to bend the capstan. On Thu, Mar 11, 2021, 10:11 AM Marcelo Mansour particular via Naktalk wrote: Hello everyone,   I want to report a problem that has never happened to me yet, in the repair of CR-30 after all the maintenance I had a good surprise.   - disassembly of the mechanism - cleaning all motors - mechanical adjustments - head / azimuth adjustments - bias verification and calibration and equalization - wow and flutter check ?? ops this gave a very high value ??? almost 0.7% using the reference that I have a T100.   I disassembled the whole mechanism again, because something went wrong and I found nothing yet.   I set it up again and realized during the new W&F measurement that nothing changed, it took me two hours to realize that the flywheel tape-up was very oval and causing the excessive W&F, now my friends I need the right dimensions because I see a way to rectify the cylinder and try to reduce this oval part of the flywheel.   I looked for a new flywheel but I didn't find it, and all help is welcome !!!   Best regards,   Marcelo Mansour   ========---------------------------------------------------------=========           Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com ========---------------------------------------------------------=========                         Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Wed Mar 17 12:36:28 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (via Naktalk) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2021 21:36:28 +1000 Subject: [naktalk] 480Z problems In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <002201d71b21$c62456e0$526d04a0$@bigpond.com> Hi Peter I have the Same machine as you and have had similar problems and it took a while to fix. Try giving the cam motor a flick in case the motor has a dead spot which is not common. Check for dry joints on the control board which is the smaller inverted board Give the take up motor which drives the little black spools a flick and then try again dead spots are not uncommon on this. Orange caps could be another especially if you have trouble recording as there are three + in that circuit. Check the regulator has not gone south as well Regards John From: Naktalk On Behalf Of Peter Tanner via Naktalk Sent: Wednesday, 17 March 2021 8:22 AM To: 'Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks' Subject: [naktalk] 480Z problems Hi everybody, This 480Z has been having some problems, mainly recording ones. It has always played back well, though. Until a couple of days ago when it stopped playing suddenly. Or rather when I turned it on it didn't play. The capstan motor turns when play is pressed and the play light comes on as usual but the control motor doesn't move. Fast forward and rewind work without a tape in so that motor seems okay too. I checked the control motor with a 12 volt system with the belt off and power off and it worked fine. What could be wrong? All belts and pinch rollers are good. Any ideas? This is the Z model, by the way so it maybe a little different from the regular 480. Thanks Peter -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Fri Mar 19 00:22:00 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Peter Tanner via Naktalk) Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2021 23:22:00 +0000 Subject: [naktalk] 480Z problems In-Reply-To: <002201d71b21$c62456e0$526d04a0$@bigpond.com> References: , <002201d71b21$c62456e0$526d04a0$@bigpond.com> Message-ID: Thanks John. I've checked most of those things out. The motors are okay. The control motor shows 9 volts instead of 12 and on both connectors so something is amiss. Probably something is shorted. I see if I can source a new regulator though I am not sure if that's the problem. Strange that something can go haywire all of a sudden. The deck played impeccably only a few days before. Regards Peter ________________________________ From: weegenaar at bigpond.com Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2021 4:36 AM To: 'Peter Tanner' ; 'Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks' Subject: RE: [naktalk] 480Z problems Hi Peter I have the Same machine as you and have had similar problems and it took a while to fix. Try giving the cam motor a flick in case the motor has a dead spot which is not common. Check for dry joints on the control board which is the smaller inverted board Give the take up motor which drives the little black spools a flick and then try again dead spots are not uncommon on this. Orange caps could be another especially if you have trouble recording as there are three + in that circuit. Check the regulator has not gone south as well Regards John From: Naktalk On Behalf Of Peter Tanner via Naktalk Sent: Wednesday, 17 March 2021 8:22 AM To: 'Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks' Subject: [naktalk] 480Z problems Hi everybody, This 480Z has been having some problems, mainly recording ones. It has always played back well, though. Until a couple of days ago when it stopped playing suddenly. Or rather when I turned it on it didn't play. The capstan motor turns when play is pressed and the play light comes on as usual but the control motor doesn't move. Fast forward and rewind work without a tape in so that motor seems okay too. I checked the control motor with a 12 volt system with the belt off and power off and it worked fine. What could be wrong? All belts and pinch rollers are good. Any ideas? This is the Z model, by the way so it maybe a little different from the regular 480. 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Les From: Naktalk [mailto:naktalk-bounces at lists.naks.com] On Behalf Of Peter Tanner via Naktalk Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2021 7:22 PM To: weegenaar at bigpond.com Cc: 'Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks' Subject: Re: [naktalk] 480Z problems Thanks John. I've checked most of those things out. The motors are okay. The control motor shows 9 volts instead of 12 and on both connectors so something is amiss. Probably something is shorted. I see if I can source a new regulator though I am not sure if that's the problem. Strange that something can go haywire all of a sudden. The deck played impeccably only a few days before. Regards Peter _____ From: weegenaar at bigpond.com Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2021 4:36 AM To: 'Peter Tanner' ; 'Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks' Subject: RE: [naktalk] 480Z problems Hi Peter I have the Same machine as you and have had similar problems and it took a while to fix. Try giving the cam motor a flick in case the motor has a dead spot which is not common. Check for dry joints on the control board which is the smaller inverted board Give the take up motor which drives the little black spools a flick and then try again dead spots are not uncommon on this. Orange caps could be another especially if you have trouble recording as there are three + in that circuit. Check the regulator has not gone south as well Regards John From: Naktalk On Behalf Of Peter Tanner via Naktalk Sent: Wednesday, 17 March 2021 8:22 AM To: 'Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks' Subject: [naktalk] 480Z problems Hi everybody, This 480Z has been having some problems, mainly recording ones. It has always played back well, though. Until a couple of days ago when it stopped playing suddenly. Or rather when I turned it on it didn't play. The capstan motor turns when play is pressed and the play light comes on as usual but the control motor doesn't move. Fast forward and rewind work without a tape in so that motor seems okay too. I checked the control motor with a 12 volt system with the belt off and power off and it worked fine. What could be wrong? All belts and pinch rollers are good. Any ideas? This is the Z model, by the way so it maybe a little different from the regular 480. Thanks Peter Image removed by sender. Virus-free. www.avast.com -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 350 bytes Desc: not available URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Fri Mar 19 03:36:55 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (via Naktalk) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2021 12:36:55 +1000 Subject: [naktalk] 480Z problems References: , <002201d71b21$c62456e0$526d04a0$@bigpond.com> Message-ID: <002801d71c68$bae89460$30b9bd20$@bigpond.com> From: weegenaar at bigpond.com Sent: Friday, 19 March 2021 12:32 PM To: 'Peter Tanner' Cc: 'Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks' Subject: RE: [naktalk] 480Z problems Hi peter thanks for your reply I would also check the wires to the cam pot . Otherwise service manual is required. Double check the transistors Q428 and Q427 are ok take them out and check they are not shorted as they go zap easily . Also Q425 and opamp IC 401and Q429 . Hope this helps as I had to replace a lot of components and then found a dry joint that would stop the whole thing dead in its tracks and then the next day it would work . I found that problem by tapping the small board and running a rubber over the joints and there it was all of a sudden Have you go the service manual for this Cheers John From: Peter Tanner Sent: Friday, 19 March 2021 9:22 AM To: weegenaar at bigpond.com Cc: 'Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks' Subject: Re: [naktalk] 480Z problems Thanks John. I've checked most of those things out. The motors are okay. The control motor shows 9 volts instead of 12 and on both connectors so something is amiss. Probably something is shorted. I see if I can source a new regulator though I am not sure if that's the problem. Strange that something can go haywire all of a sudden. The deck played impeccably only a few days before. Regards Peter _____ From: weegenaar at bigpond.com > Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2021 4:36 AM To: 'Peter Tanner' >; 'Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks' Subject: RE: [naktalk] 480Z problems Hi Peter I have the Same machine as you and have had similar problems and it took a while to fix. Try giving the cam motor a flick in case the motor has a dead spot which is not common. Check for dry joints on the control board which is the smaller inverted board Give the take up motor which drives the little black spools a flick and then try again dead spots are not uncommon on this. Orange caps could be another especially if you have trouble recording as there are three + in that circuit. Check the regulator has not gone south as well Regards John From: Naktalk > On Behalf Of Peter Tanner via Naktalk Sent: Wednesday, 17 March 2021 8:22 AM To: 'Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks' > Subject: [naktalk] 480Z problems Hi everybody, This 480Z has been having some problems, mainly recording ones. It has always played back well, though. Until a couple of days ago when it stopped playing suddenly. Or rather when I turned it on it didn't play. The capstan motor turns when play is pressed and the play light comes on as usual but the control motor doesn't move. Fast forward and rewind work without a tape in so that motor seems okay too. I checked the control motor with a 12 volt system with the belt off and power off and it worked fine. What could be wrong? All belts and pinch rollers are good. Any ideas? This is the Z model, by the way so it maybe a little different from the regular 480. Thanks Peter Virus-free. www.avast.com -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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She did reply promptly to an 'information' email I sent about a month ago, but I have yet to place my order Henry On Wed, Feb 24, 2021, 2:48 AM Tim Rusling via Naktalk, < naktalk at lists.naks.com> wrote: > She could fill the orders from jail. Nothing about this saga makes any > sense. > > On Wednesday, February 24, 2021, 01:58:47 a.m. EST, Sky Email via Naktalk < > naktalk at lists.naks.com> wrote: > > > No, its continued to work exactly the way Fred had been running it for > years. She was taught well; take the money, don't send items, when the > customer (or sucker as she probably calls them) pick a lie and and then > ignore them. I’m really looking forward to to hearing the outcome of the > investigation. > > Interestingly, the website is still up-and-running. > http://marrscommunications.com/ > > And Krista has a new email address too. > marrskrista0105 at gmail.com > > And of course, she continues to warn customers, again and again, there > will be delays in getting their order due to not doing this or not doing > that and for the last year, C19 delays because they have delays in getting > the products from their suppliers. But as always, nowhere does is state > they’re OOS on any product. And I love the “help” being offered to expedite > orders, by just sending Krista a pic of a signed personal cheque as that > can be banked using an app! Unbelievable - she’s still ripping people off. > > On 24 Feb 2021, at 06:17, N.van.wijnen at ziggo.nl via Naktalk < > naktalk at lists.naks.com> wrote: > > Hi , > You are right, > Krista is the daughter of Fred and Fred past away. > I think that continuing the business did not work out the way Krista > thought. They should remove the website from the internet much earlier . > Best regards, > Norman > > Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad > > Op 24 feb. 2021 om 02:09 heeft Rajiv Pandey via Naktalk < > naktalk at lists.naks.com> het volgende geschreven: > >  > FWIW - I ordered some Nak belts from Krista back in early 2019 and it took > over 7-8 weeks of constant pestering and opening a case with Paypal to grab > her attention. She apologized profusely when she finally responded and said > he was moving apartments but that was back in 2019 and if it is still the > case then its a shame. She was in Houston and I am in Dallas and I was so > frustrated that I was ready to drive down to Houston to get my order. i > think she is the daughter of Fred and I am not even sure if Fred is still > with us in this world and hence the state we are in > > On Mon, Feb 22, 2021 at 6:34 PM Tim Rusling via Naktalk < > naktalk at lists.naks.com> wrote: > > Such a shame. > > https://www.linkedin.com/in/krista-smith-17aa01158/ > > On Monday, February 22, 2021, 05:43:48 p.m. EST, Steven Rieker via Naktalk > wrote: > > > I received a letter posted 9 Feb 2021 from the Harris County (TX) District > Attorney's office in Houston regarding Consumer Fraud Investigation # > 20-60749-CF, regarding multiple complaints against Krista Smith d/b/a Marrs > Communications. > > A questionnaire was included, as well a request for relevant receipts, > cancelled checks or other documentation. > > In my memory, I did not previously contact the DA's office or any gov't > entity. I did post to NakTalk in April 2019 regarding receipt of a Marrs > belt kit. As to how the DA obtained my name, I can only speculate that > either the office has obtained records from Ms. Smith, or possibly has > reviewed NakTalk posts. > > I'm posting this just as a heads-up to list members, as more are likely to > be contacted. I don't wish to provoke another takeover of the list > regarding this topic, as others have understandably expressed Marrs fatique. > > Steve Rieker > > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Mon Mar 29 17:34:37 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Marcelo Mansour particular via Naktalk) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2021 12:34:37 -0300 Subject: [naktalk] CR30-tape-up flywheeel problems Message-ID: Hi Everybody, I want to come back briefly on this subject that I was able to find an identical flywheel for the CR-30 (CR-3A / E) using a flywheel of the BX-125 model and despite being a simple capstan it served very well on the CR-30 having the same dimensions , weight and length or whatever seemed to be difficult ended up being a pleasant surprise and only I am confiding my success with you as it may help someone who has or had this same problem. The W&F with the bx-125’s flywheel is within limits and the CR-30 was very close to the original. Atenciosamente / Saludos / Best regards / Mit freundlichen Grüssen, Marcelo Farid Mansour Tel: +55-11 4425-4245 Cel: +55-11 96831-5151 Rua Senador Queirós, 165 Vila Scarpelli - Santo André-SP-Brazil Zip Code: 09050-300 De: Daniel Botelho Enviada em: sábado, 13 de março de 2021 15:11 Para: Marcelo Farid Mansour Assunto: Re: Res: Res: [naktalk] CR30-tape-up flywheeel problems Ahh no worries at all. :) The reason you cant use just any old capstan is that the dimensions and weight are usually engineered for the deck mechanism and any changes from that size will surely cause grief when installed. Same for the size of the capstan. They are slightly different diameters... From: marcelo.mansour at terra.com.br Sent: March 13, 2021 11:12 a.m. To: daniel.botelho at gmail.com Subject: Re: Res: Res: [naktalk] CR30-tape-up flywheeel problems Yes I understood what explained now these decks that I mentioned are scraps and I do not believe that I can recover the BX300 and often do not have the electronic boards I will assume they are destroyed. Nakamichi decks in Brazil are difficult to find and in any case it is only a try. BX thought about using the flywheel as it is a simple capstan as a supply flywheel on the CR30, I don't know if this will work, I mean dimensions, weight and etcc. Anyway, that's what I have right now. You as a good Brazilian know what I'm saying. Regards from your friend from Brazil and I would like to keep you in my contacts because sometimes I need help and your comments show your knowledge. Lenovo TAB3 10 Plus Em 13 de mar de 2021 12:53 PM, Daniel Botelho > escreveu: Well, this will sound strange at first, but I would seriously consider fixing up the BX-300. It's a much more capable deck vs the CR-30 If the BX300 needs minimal work, you'll be a happy guy. I'd pull the idler gear/reel tables from your CR30 and transplant it into the BX300 The BX300 has a direct-driven dual capstan system which has very low W/F. Even if you replace the capstan from the CR30, it will never have such low values as the BX300 Only issue with the BX300 is that it should have an idler tire, which is likely slipping or worn out. The newer CR decks replaced that with a gear driven idler which is far more reliable. BX2/BX125 are single capstan 2 head nak decks so I don't believe they will work for your purpose of repairing the CR30 600 sounds like a very old nak...I'd pass on this Good luck! Wish we had some junker BX300s in our country. 😁 From: marcelo.mansour at terra.com.br Sent: March 13, 2021 10:46 a.m. To: daniel.botelho at gmail.com Subject: Res: Res: [naktalk] CR30-tape-up flywheeel problems -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Mon Mar 29 20:25:41 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Les Morgan via Naktalk) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2021 14:25:41 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] CR30-tape-up flywheeel problems In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <21D4B923-33C5-4E70-A6BA-74E22F82896A@twc.com> You are a Gentleman and a Scholar, sir; there are too damned few of us left! 😂 Pax Domini Sit Semper Vobiscum Et Illegitimi Non Carborundum > On Mar 29, 2021, at 1:33 PM, Marcelo Mansour particular via Naktalk wrote: > >  > Hi Everybody, > > I want to come back briefly on this subject that I was able to find an identical flywheel for the CR-30 (CR-3A / E) using a flywheel of the BX-125 model and despite being a simple capstan it served very well on the CR-30 having the same dimensions , weight and length or whatever seemed to be difficult ended up being a pleasant surprise and only I am confiding my success with you as it may help someone who has or had this same problem. > > The W&F with the bx-125’s flywheel is within limits and the CR-30 was very close to the original. > > > Atenciosamente / Saludos / Best regards / Mit freundlichen Grüssen, > > Marcelo Farid Mansour > Tel: +55-11 4425-4245 > Cel: +55-11 96831-5151 > Rua Senador Queirós, 165 > Vila Scarpelli - Santo André-SP-Brazil > Zip Code: 09050-300 > > > > > > De: Daniel Botelho > Enviada em: sábado, 13 de março de 2021 15:11 > Para: Marcelo Farid Mansour > Assunto: Re: Res: Res: [naktalk] CR30-tape-up flywheeel problems > > Ahh no worries at all. :) > > The reason you cant use just any old capstan is that the dimensions and weight are usually engineered for the deck mechanism and any changes from that size will surely cause grief when installed. > > Same for the size of the capstan. They are slightly different diameters... > > From: marcelo.mansour at terra.com.br > Sent: March 13, 2021 11:12 a.m. > To: daniel.botelho at gmail.com > Subject: Re: Res: Res: [naktalk] CR30-tape-up flywheeel problems > > Yes I understood what explained now these decks that I mentioned are scraps and I do not believe that I can recover the BX300 and often do not have the electronic boards I will assume they are destroyed. > Nakamichi decks in Brazil are difficult to find and in any case it is only a try. > BX thought about using the flywheel as it is a simple capstan as a supply flywheel on the CR30, I don't know if this will work, I mean dimensions, weight and etcc. > Anyway, that's what I have right now. > You as a good Brazilian know what I'm saying. > Regards from your friend from Brazil and I would like to keep you in my contacts because sometimes I need help and your comments show your knowledge. > > Lenovo TAB3 10 Plus > > Em 13 de mar de 2021 12:53 PM, Daniel Botelho escreveu: > Well, this will sound strange at first, but I would seriously consider fixing up the BX-300. It's a much more capable deck vs the CR-30 > > If the BX300 needs minimal work, you'll be a happy guy. I'd pull the idler gear/reel tables from your CR30 and transplant it into the BX300 > > The BX300 has a direct-driven dual capstan system which has very low W/F. Even if you replace the capstan from the CR30, it will never have such low values as the BX300 > > Only issue with the BX300 is that it should have an idler tire, which is likely slipping or worn out. The newer CR decks replaced that with a gear driven idler which is far more reliable. > > BX2/BX125 are single capstan 2 head nak decks so I don't believe they will work for your purpose of repairing the CR30 > > 600 sounds like a very old nak...I'd pass on this > > Good luck! 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URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Mon Mar 29 21:54:52 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (R Smith via Naktalk) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2021 19:54:52 +0000 Subject: [naktalk] Marrs Comm Investigation In-Reply-To: References: <60E0C3A8-9459-4697-B70A-826629512FF9@ziggo.nl> <01F0AE1A-27EA-4E4B-BDE6-534524BE22A9@sky.com> <1342819958.1945967.1614152917096@mail.yahoo.com>, Message-ID: Please do not send ANY money to Marrs; you’ll get nothing in return. ________________________________ From: Naktalk on behalf of Phineas Paine via Naktalk Sent: Monday, March 29, 2021 2:42:51 PM To: naktalk at lists.naks.com Subject: Re: [naktalk] Marrs Comm Investigation Hi. I'm wondering if anyone has recently ordered and received any belts from Marrs, or has everyone been left holding an empty bag? I need new belts and idler tires for 3 of my Naks - 2 x BX-300 and a RX-505. Also maybe a new NAAC belt for my Dragon. I really liked the belts I received from Fred in years past, but haven't ordered any since Krista took over. She did reply promptly to an 'information' email I sent about a month ago, but I have yet to place my order Henry On Wed, Feb 24, 2021, 2:48 AM Tim Rusling via Naktalk, > wrote: She could fill the orders from jail. Nothing about this saga makes any sense. On Wednesday, February 24, 2021, 01:58:47 a.m. EST, Sky Email via Naktalk > wrote: No, its continued to work exactly the way Fred had been running it for years. She was taught well; take the money, don't send items, when the customer (or sucker as she probably calls them) pick a lie and and then ignore them. I’m really looking forward to to hearing the outcome of the investigation. Interestingly, the website is still up-and-running. http://marrscommunications.com/ And Krista has a new email address too. marrskrista0105 at gmail.com And of course, she continues to warn customers, again and again, there will be delays in getting their order due to not doing this or not doing that and for the last year, C19 delays because they have delays in getting the products from their suppliers. But as always, nowhere does is state they’re OOS on any product. And I love the “help” being offered to expedite orders, by just sending Krista a pic of a signed personal cheque as that can be banked using an app! Unbelievable - she’s still ripping people off. On 24 Feb 2021, at 06:17, N.van.wijnen at ziggo.nl via Naktalk > wrote: Hi , You are right, Krista is the daughter of Fred and Fred past away. I think that continuing the business did not work out the way Krista thought. They should remove the website from the internet much earlier . Best regards, Norman Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad Op 24 feb. 2021 om 02:09 heeft Rajiv Pandey via Naktalk > het volgende geschreven:  FWIW - I ordered some Nak belts from Krista back in early 2019 and it took over 7-8 weeks of constant pestering and opening a case with Paypal to grab her attention. She apologized profusely when she finally responded and said he was moving apartments but that was back in 2019 and if it is still the case then its a shame. She was in Houston and I am in Dallas and I was so frustrated that I was ready to drive down to Houston to get my order. i think she is the daughter of Fred and I am not even sure if Fred is still with us in this world and hence the state we are in On Mon, Feb 22, 2021 at 6:34 PM Tim Rusling via Naktalk > wrote: Such a shame. https://www.linkedin.com/in/krista-smith-17aa01158/ On Monday, February 22, 2021, 05:43:48 p.m. EST, Steven Rieker via Naktalk > wrote: I received a letter posted 9 Feb 2021 from the Harris County (TX) District Attorney's office in Houston regarding Consumer Fraud Investigation # 20-60749-CF, regarding multiple complaints against Krista Smith d/b/a Marrs Communications. A questionnaire was included, as well a request for relevant receipts, cancelled checks or other documentation. In my memory, I did not previously contact the DA's office or any gov't entity. I did post to NakTalk in April 2019 regarding receipt of a Marrs belt kit. As to how the DA obtained my name, I can only speculate that either the office has obtained records from Ms. Smith, or possibly has reviewed NakTalk posts. I'm posting this just as a heads-up to list members, as more are likely to be contacted. I don't wish to provoke another takeover of the list regarding this topic, as others have understandably expressed Marrs fatique. 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URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Mon Mar 29 22:37:06 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Marcelo Mansour particular via Naktalk) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2021 17:37:06 -0300 Subject: [naktalk] RES: Marrs Comm Investigation In-Reply-To: References: <60E0C3A8-9459-4697-B70A-826629512FF9@ziggo.nl> <01F0AE1A-27EA-4E4B-BDE6-534524BE22A9@sky.com> <1342819958.1945967.1614152917096@mail.yahoo.com>, Message-ID: Please scratch Mars from your contacts, I lost USD250 so Mars is not a supplier for us. I have been buying belts at IDK-Japan through a friend who works there, I anticipate that IDK does not sell parts outside Japan. De: Naktalk Em nome de R Smith via Naktalk Enviada em: segunda-feira, 29 de março de 2021 16:55 Para: Phineas Paine ; Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks Assunto: Re: [naktalk] Marrs Comm Investigation Please do not send ANY money to Marrs; you’ll get nothing in return. _____ From: Naktalk > on behalf of Phineas Paine via Naktalk > Sent: Monday, March 29, 2021 2:42:51 PM To: naktalk at lists.naks.com > Subject: Re: [naktalk] Marrs Comm Investigation Hi. I'm wondering if anyone has recently ordered and received any belts from Marrs, or has everyone been left holding an empty bag? I need new belts and idler tires for 3 of my Naks - 2 x BX-300 and a RX-505. Also maybe a new NAAC belt for my Dragon. I really liked the belts I received from Fred in years past, but haven't ordered any since Krista took over. She did reply promptly to an 'information' email I sent about a month ago, but I have yet to place my order Henry On Wed, Feb 24, 2021, 2:48 AM Tim Rusling via Naktalk, > wrote: She could fill the orders from jail. Nothing about this saga makes any sense. On Wednesday, February 24, 2021, 01:58:47 a.m. EST, Sky Email via Naktalk > wrote: No, its continued to work exactly the way Fred had been running it for years. She was taught well; take the money, don't send items, when the customer (or sucker as she probably calls them) pick a lie and and then ignore them. I’m really looking forward to to hearing the outcome of the investigation. Interestingly, the website is still up-and-running. http://marrscommunications.com/ And Krista has a new email address too. marrskrista0105 at gmail.com And of course, she continues to warn customers, again and again, there will be delays in getting their order due to not doing this or not doing that and for the last year, C19 delays because they have delays in getting the products from their suppliers. But as always, nowhere does is state they’re OOS on any product. And I love the “help” being offered to expedite orders, by just sending Krista a pic of a signed personal cheque as that can be banked using an app! Unbelievable - she’s still ripping people off. On 24 Feb 2021, at 06:17, N.van.wijnen at ziggo.nl via Naktalk > wrote: Hi , You are right, Krista is the daughter of Fred and Fred past away. I think that continuing the business did not work out the way Krista thought. They should remove the website from the internet much earlier . Best regards, Norman Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad Op 24 feb. 2021 om 02:09 heeft Rajiv Pandey via Naktalk > het volgende geschreven:  FWIW - I ordered some Nak belts from Krista back in early 2019 and it took over 7-8 weeks of constant pestering and opening a case with Paypal to grab her attention. She apologized profusely when she finally responded and said he was moving apartments but that was back in 2019 and if it is still the case then its a shame. She was in Houston and I am in Dallas and I was so frustrated that I was ready to drive down to Houston to get my order. i think she is the daughter of Fred and I am not even sure if Fred is still with us in this world and hence the state we are in On Mon, Feb 22, 2021 at 6:34 PM Tim Rusling via Naktalk > wrote: Such a shame. https://www.linkedin.com/in/krista-smith-17aa01158/ On Monday, February 22, 2021, 05:43:48 p.m. EST, Steven Rieker via Naktalk > wrote: I received a letter posted 9 Feb 2021 from the Harris County (TX) District Attorney's office in Houston regarding Consumer Fraud Investigation # 20-60749-CF, regarding multiple complaints against Krista Smith d/b/a Marrs Communications. A questionnaire was included, as well a request for relevant receipts, cancelled checks or other documentation. In my memory, I did not previously contact the DA's office or any gov't entity. I did post to NakTalk in April 2019 regarding receipt of a Marrs belt kit. As to how the DA obtained my name, I can only speculate that either the office has obtained records from Ms. Smith, or possibly has reviewed NakTalk posts. I'm posting this just as a heads-up to list members, as more are likely to be contacted. I don't wish to provoke another takeover of the list regarding this topic, as others have understandably expressed Marrs fatique. 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URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Mon Mar 29 22:40:12 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Marcelo Mansour particular via Naktalk) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2021 17:40:12 -0300 Subject: [naktalk] RES: CR30-tape-up flywheeel problems In-Reply-To: <21D4B923-33C5-4E70-A6BA-74E22F82896A@twc.com> References: <21D4B923-33C5-4E70-A6BA-74E22F82896A@twc.com> Message-ID: 👍 De: Les Morgan Enviada em: segunda-feira, 29 de março de 2021 15:26 Para: Marcelo Mansour particular ; Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks Assunto: Re: [naktalk] CR30-tape-up flywheeel problems You are a Gentleman and a Scholar, sir; there are too damned few of us left! 😂 Pax Domini Sit Semper Vobiscum Et Illegitimi Non Carborundum On Mar 29, 2021, at 1:33 PM, Marcelo Mansour particular via Naktalk > wrote:  Hi Everybody, I want to come back briefly on this subject that I was able to find an identical flywheel for the CR-30 (CR-3A / E) using a flywheel of the BX-125 model and despite being a simple capstan it served very well on the CR-30 having the same dimensions , weight and length or whatever seemed to be difficult ended up being a pleasant surprise and only I am confiding my success with you as it may help someone who has or had this same problem. The W&F with the bx-125’s flywheel is within limits and the CR-30 was very close to the original. Atenciosamente / Saludos / Best regards / Mit freundlichen Grüssen, Marcelo Farid Mansour Tel: +55-11 4425-4245 Cel: +55-11 96831-5151 Rua Senador Queirós, 165 Vila Scarpelli - Santo André-SP-Brazil Zip Code: 09050-300 De: Daniel Botelho > Enviada em: sábado, 13 de março de 2021 15:11 Para: Marcelo Farid Mansour > Assunto: Re: Res: Res: [naktalk] CR30-tape-up flywheeel problems Ahh no worries at all. :) The reason you cant use just any old capstan is that the dimensions and weight are usually engineered for the deck mechanism and any changes from that size will surely cause grief when installed. Same for the size of the capstan. They are slightly different diameters... From: marcelo.mansour at terra.com.br Sent: March 13, 2021 11:12 a.m. To: daniel.botelho at gmail.com Subject: Re: Res: Res: [naktalk] CR30-tape-up flywheeel problems Yes I understood what explained now these decks that I mentioned are scraps and I do not believe that I can recover the BX300 and often do not have the electronic boards I will assume they are destroyed. Nakamichi decks in Brazil are difficult to find and in any case it is only a try. BX thought about using the flywheel as it is a simple capstan as a supply flywheel on the CR30, I don't know if this will work, I mean dimensions, weight and etcc. Anyway, that's what I have right now. You as a good Brazilian know what I'm saying. Regards from your friend from Brazil and I would like to keep you in my contacts because sometimes I need help and your comments show your knowledge. Lenovo TAB3 10 Plus Em 13 de mar de 2021 12:53 PM, Daniel Botelho > escreveu: Well, this will sound strange at first, but I would seriously consider fixing up the BX-300. It's a much more capable deck vs the CR-30 If the BX300 needs minimal work, you'll be a happy guy. I'd pull the idler gear/reel tables from your CR30 and transplant it into the BX300 The BX300 has a direct-driven dual capstan system which has very low W/F. Even if you replace the capstan from the CR30, it will never have such low values as the BX300 Only issue with the BX300 is that it should have an idler tire, which is likely slipping or worn out. The newer CR decks replaced that with a gear driven idler which is far more reliable. BX2/BX125 are single capstan 2 head nak decks so I don't believe they will work for your purpose of repairing the CR30 600 sounds like a very old nak...I'd pass on this Good luck! Wish we had some junker BX300s in our country. 😁 From: marcelo.mansour at terra.com.br Sent: March 13, 2021 10:46 a.m. To: daniel.botelho at gmail.com Subject: Res: Res: [naktalk] CR30-tape-up flywheeel problems ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Mon Mar 29 22:47:35 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Daniel Botelho via Naktalk) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2021 16:47:35 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] CR30-tape-up flywheeel problems In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Well, that is certainly one for the books. :) Congrats on finding that! Out of curiosity, was it the left or right capstan that needed replacing? It sounds like the right one... On Mon, Mar 29, 2021 at 11:34 AM Marcelo Mansour particular < marcelo.mansour at terra.com.br> wrote: > Hi Everybody, > > > > I want to come back briefly on this subject that I was able to find an > identical flywheel for the CR-30 (CR-3A / E) using a flywheel of the BX-125 > model and despite being a simple capstan it served very well on the CR-30 > having the same dimensions , weight and length or whatever seemed to be > difficult ended up being a pleasant surprise and only I am confiding my > success with you as it may help someone who has or had this same problem. > > > > The W&F with the bx-125’s flywheel is within limits and the CR-30 was very > close to the original. > > > > > > Atenciosamente / Saludos / Best regards / Mit freundlichen Grüssen, > > > > Marcelo Farid Mansour > > Tel: +55-11 4425-4245 > > Cel: +55-11 96831-5151 > > Rua Senador Queirós, 165 > > Vila Scarpelli - Santo André-SP-Brazil > > Zip Code: 09050-300 > > > > > > > > > > > > *De:* Daniel Botelho > *Enviada em:* sábado, 13 de março de 2021 15:11 > *Para:* Marcelo Farid Mansour > *Assunto:* Re: Res: Res: [naktalk] CR30-tape-up flywheeel problems > > > > Ahh no worries at all. :) > > > > The reason you cant use just any old capstan is that the dimensions and > weight are usually engineered for the deck mechanism and any changes from > that size will surely cause grief when installed. > > > > Same for the size of the capstan. They are slightly different diameters... > > > > *From:* marcelo.mansour at terra.com.br > > *Sent:* March 13, 2021 11:12 a.m. > > *To:* daniel.botelho at gmail.com > > *Subject:* Re: Res: Res: [naktalk] CR30-tape-up flywheeel problems > > > > Yes I understood what explained now these decks that I mentioned are > scraps and I do not believe that I can recover the BX300 and often do not > have the electronic boards I will assume they are destroyed. > Nakamichi decks in Brazil are difficult to find and in any case it is only > a try. > BX thought about using the flywheel as it is a simple capstan as a supply > flywheel on the CR30, I don't know if this will work, I mean dimensions, > weight and etcc. > Anyway, that's what I have right now. > You as a good Brazilian know what I'm saying. > Regards from your friend from Brazil and I would like to keep you in my > contacts because sometimes I need help and your comments show your > knowledge. > > Lenovo TAB3 10 Plus > > Em 13 de mar de 2021 12:53 PM, Daniel Botelho > escreveu: > > Well, this will sound strange at first, but I would seriously consider > fixing up the BX-300. It's a much more capable deck vs the CR-30 > > > > If the BX300 needs minimal work, you'll be a happy guy. I'd pull the > idler gear/reel tables from your CR30 and transplant it into the BX300 > > > > The BX300 has a direct-driven dual capstan system which has very low W/F. > Even if you replace the capstan from the CR30, it will never have such low > values as the BX300 > > > > Only issue with the BX300 is that it should have an idler tire, which is > likely slipping or worn out. The newer CR decks replaced that with a gear > driven idler which is far more reliable. > > > > BX2/BX125 are single capstan 2 head nak decks so I don't believe they will > work for your purpose of repairing the CR30 > > > > 600 sounds like a very old nak...I'd pass on this > > > > Good luck! Wish we had some junker BX300s in our country. 😁 > > > > *From:* marcelo.mansour at terra.com.br > > *Sent:* March 13, 2021 10:46 a.m. > > *To:* daniel.botelho at gmail.com > > *Subject:* Res: Res: [naktalk] CR30-tape-up flywheeel problems > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Tue Mar 30 17:52:29 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Marcelo Mansour particular via Naktalk) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2021 12:52:29 -0300 Subject: [naktalk] RES: CR30-tape-up flywheeel problems In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Daniel, Yeah I’m Lucky man and Yu’re right the flywheel right one was replaced. Absolutely is very important to wright the book as reference. De: Daniel Botelho Enviada em: segunda-feira, 29 de março de 2021 17:48 Para: Marcelo Mansour particular Cc: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks Assunto: Re: CR30-tape-up flywheeel problems Well, that is certainly one for the books. :) Congrats on finding that! Out of curiosity, was it the left or right capstan that needed replacing? It sounds like the right one... On Mon, Mar 29, 2021 at 11:34 AM Marcelo Mansour particular > wrote: Hi Everybody, I want to come back briefly on this subject that I was able to find an identical flywheel for the CR-30 (CR-3A / E) using a flywheel of the BX-125 model and despite being a simple capstan it served very well on the CR-30 having the same dimensions , weight and length or whatever seemed to be difficult ended up being a pleasant surprise and only I am confiding my success with you as it may help someone who has or had this same problem. The W&F with the bx-125’s flywheel is within limits and the CR-30 was very close to the original. Atenciosamente / Saludos / Best regards / Mit freundlichen Grüssen, Marcelo Farid Mansour Tel: +55-11 4425-4245 Cel: +55-11 96831-5151 Rua Senador Queirós, 165 Vila Scarpelli - Santo André-SP-Brazil Zip Code: 09050-300 De: Daniel Botelho > Enviada em: sábado, 13 de março de 2021 15:11 Para: Marcelo Farid Mansour > Assunto: Re: Res: Res: [naktalk] CR30-tape-up flywheeel problems Ahh no worries at all. :) The reason you cant use just any old capstan is that the dimensions and weight are usually engineered for the deck mechanism and any changes from that size will surely cause grief when installed. Same for the size of the capstan. They are slightly different diameters... From: marcelo.mansour at terra.com.br Sent: March 13, 2021 11:12 a.m. To: daniel.botelho at gmail.com Subject: Re: Res: Res: [naktalk] CR30-tape-up flywheeel problems Yes I understood what explained now these decks that I mentioned are scraps and I do not believe that I can recover the BX300 and often do not have the electronic boards I will assume they are destroyed. Nakamichi decks in Brazil are difficult to find and in any case it is only a try. BX thought about using the flywheel as it is a simple capstan as a supply flywheel on the CR30, I don't know if this will work, I mean dimensions, weight and etcc. Anyway, that's what I have right now. You as a good Brazilian know what I'm saying. Regards from your friend from Brazil and I would like to keep you in my contacts because sometimes I need help and your comments show your knowledge. Lenovo TAB3 10 Plus Em 13 de mar de 2021 12:53 PM, Daniel Botelho > escreveu: Well, this will sound strange at first, but I would seriously consider fixing up the BX-300. It's a much more capable deck vs the CR-30 If the BX300 needs minimal work, you'll be a happy guy. I'd pull the idler gear/reel tables from your CR30 and transplant it into the BX300 The BX300 has a direct-driven dual capstan system which has very low W/F. Even if you replace the capstan from the CR30, it will never have such low values as the BX300 Only issue with the BX300 is that it should have an idler tire, which is likely slipping or worn out. The newer CR decks replaced that with a gear driven idler which is far more reliable. BX2/BX125 are single capstan 2 head nak decks so I don't believe they will work for your purpose of repairing the CR30 600 sounds like a very old nak...I'd pass on this Good luck! Wish we had some junker BX300s in our country. 😁 From: marcelo.mansour at terra.com.br Sent: March 13, 2021 10:46 a.m. To: daniel.botelho at gmail.com Subject: Res: Res: [naktalk] CR30-tape-up flywheeel problems -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: g:\07. razno\naktalk archive\2021\2021-4.txt ************************************************************************ From naktalk at lists.naks.com Mon Apr 5 22:32:52 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Ken Mashlan via Naktalk) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2021 20:32:52 +0000 Subject: [naktalk] 1000ZXL for sale Message-ID: Hi all. Just thought I would let you know that my 1000ZXL is up for sale. On eBay at https://www.ebay.com/itm/Nakamichi-1000zxl-computing-cassette-deck/233954464276 It is in perfect working condition having just been rebuilt by Gennady at Gennlabs here in NZ (I am in Auckland NZ). You can read about it (and see photos/video) in the listing, but it a good opportunity for someone in the southern hemisphere to get one of these without shipping across the world. If I sell to Australia I may even be able to deliver it in person if the borders open this afternoon! Fingers crossed! Cheers Ken -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Tue Apr 6 03:41:08 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Mark Exstedt via Naktalk) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2021 01:41:08 +0000 Subject: [naktalk] 1000ZXL for sale In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I would had put triple box shipment in the ad. ________________________________ From: Naktalk on behalf of Ken Mashlan via Naktalk Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 2:32 PM To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks Subject: [naktalk] 1000ZXL for sale Hi all. Just thought I would let you know that my 1000ZXL is up for sale. On eBay at https://www.ebay.com/itm/Nakamichi-1000zxl-computing-cassette-deck/233954464276 It is in perfect working condition having just been rebuilt by Gennady at Gennlabs here in NZ (I am in Auckland NZ). You can read about it (and see photos/video) in the listing, but it a good opportunity for someone in the southern hemisphere to get one of these without shipping across the world. If I sell to Australia I may even be able to deliver it in person if the borders open this afternoon! Fingers crossed! Cheers Ken -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Tue Apr 6 07:31:01 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Graham Strahle via Naktalk) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2021 15:01:01 +0930 Subject: [naktalk] 1000ZXL for sale In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: What a beautiful machine Ken. So tempted! Graham (in Adelaide) > On 6 Apr 2021, at 11:11 am, Mark Exstedt via Naktalk wrote: > > > I would had put triple box shipment in the ad. > > From: Naktalk > on behalf of Ken Mashlan via Naktalk > > Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 2:32 PM > To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > > Subject: [naktalk] 1000ZXL for sale > > Hi all. > > Just thought I would let you know that my 1000ZXL is up for sale. On eBay at https://www.ebay.com/itm/Nakamichi-1000zxl-computing-cassette-deck/233954464276 > > It is in perfect working condition having just been rebuilt by Gennady at Gennlabs here in NZ (I am in Auckland NZ). You can read about it (and see photos/video) in the listing, but it a good opportunity for someone in the southern hemisphere to get one of these without shipping across the world. If I sell to Australia I may even be able to deliver it in person if the borders open this afternoon! 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On eBay at https://www.ebay.com/itm/Nakamichi-1000zxl-computing-cassette-deck/233954464276 It is in perfect working condition having just been rebuilt by Gennady at Gennlabs here in NZ (I am in Auckland NZ). You can read about it (and see photos/video) in the listing, but it a good opportunity for someone in the southern hemisphere to get one of these without shipping across the world. If I sell to Australia I may even be able to deliver it in person if the borders open this afternoon! Fingers crossed! Cheers Ken ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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They will prepare the ppwk, see it thru to customs etc. make sure the receipt will be responsible for all duty & taxes. Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 12, 2021, at 7:30 AM, Daniel Botelho via Naktalk wrote: > >  > Be very careful shipping to Russia. Look at their feedback and make certain they are the real deal. > > Good luck. > > From: naktalk at lists.naks.com > Sent: April 12, 2021 7:23 a.m. > To: kmashlan at hotmail.co.nz; naktalk at lists.naks.com > Reply to: johnnykojic at hotmail.com; naktalk at lists.naks.com > Subject: Re: [naktalk] 1000ZXL just sold > > hi- after ive sold something on ebay i ignore the rules of email- i never had any problems- post fully insured against loss or damage > > From: Naktalk on behalf of Ken Mashlan via Naktalk > Sent: 12 April 2021 05:47 > To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > Subject: [naktalk] 1000ZXL just sold > > Hi all. > > Asking a quick question re the deck I have just sold on eBay. 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David -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Sat May 8 09:41:09 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (via Naktalk) Date: Sat, 8 May 2021 17:41:09 +1000 Subject: [naktalk] ZX9 left channel hum In-Reply-To: <52c281b4-5322-4e95-a91a-97e3b6ff11a8@Spark> References: <67580753-88a4-421a-9446-a059bb9bc6cc@Spark> <52c281b4-5322-4e95-a91a-97e3b6ff11a8@Spark> Message-ID: <002501d743dd$83d162d0$8b742870$@bigpond.com> Hi does the humming happen on all tapes on play all the time and how old is the capstan belt Regards John From: Naktalk On Behalf Of David Thompson via Naktalk Sent: Saturday, 8 May 2021 2:20 PM To: David Thompson via Naktalk Subject: [naktalk] ZX9 left channel hum Not long ago I had my ZX9 deck perfectly calibrated but not long after the left channel began playing back at a low level. Now the left channel gives a constant hum. Curiously, while the right channel plays OK, any cassette that I have recorded starts to play and then after about 15 seconds, it starts to fade right off. When stopping it and immediately resuming play, it does the same thing again. Strangely that does not happen with commercially bought cassettes. I would appreciate any help with what is going on. David -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Sat May 8 10:26:34 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (David Thompson via Naktalk) Date: Sat, 8 May 2021 18:26:34 +1000 Subject: [naktalk] ZX9 left channel hum In-Reply-To: <002501d743dd$83d162d0$8b742870$@bigpond.com> References: <67580753-88a4-421a-9446-a059bb9bc6cc@Spark> <52c281b4-5322-4e95-a91a-97e3b6ff11a8@Spark> <002501d743dd$83d162d0$8b742870$@bigpond.com> Message-ID: Yes the hum is constant in play on all tapes. I bought the capstan belt from ESL about 5 years ago I would say. It has not had heavy use. It looks OK but is not particularly tight and I do live in the tropics. David On 8 May 2021, 5:41 PM +1000, weegenaar at bigpond.com, wrote: > Hi does the humming happen on all tapes on play all the time and how old is the capstan belt > > Regards John > > From: Naktalk On Behalf Of David Thompson via Naktalk > Sent: Saturday, 8 May 2021 2:20 PM > To: David Thompson via Naktalk > Subject: [naktalk] ZX9 left channel hum > > Not long ago I had my ZX9 deck perfectly calibrated but not long after the left channel began playing back at a low level. > Now the left channel gives a constant hum. > > Curiously, while the right channel plays OK, any cassette that I have recorded starts to play and then after about 15 seconds, it starts to fade right off. When stopping it and immediately resuming play, it does the same thing again. Strangely that does not happen with commercially bought cassettes. > > I would appreciate any help with what is going on. > > David > > Virus-free. www.avast.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Sat May 8 17:09:18 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Perry.nak via Naktalk) Date: Sat, 8 May 2021 11:09:18 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] ZX-9 left channel hum & fade Message-ID: Interestingly enough, I just restored a ZX-9 with almost the exact same problem, also on the left channel. On the ZX-9, there is a pair of 330uF/10V caps in the playback head amp tied to a resistor that is tied to +12V. Replace both of them with 470uF/16V or 25V. See if that fixes it. Sent from my iPhone From naktalk at lists.naks.com Sun May 9 18:11:35 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (John Gipps via Naktalk) Date: Mon, 10 May 2021 02:11:35 +1000 Subject: [naktalk] David Thompson - ZX-9 with hum and low signal in L ch, and fading in remaining R ch. References: <000901d744ed$ff633a70$fe29af50$.ref@aol.com> Message-ID: <000901d744ed$ff633a70$fe29af50$@aol.com> Hi David It sounds as though you have two problems. 1. Constant hum and low/no level in the L channel - this could be any one of dozens of electronic faults in the L channel PB circuitry. I notice an answer from Perry suggesting a particular electrolytic in the front end of the PB amp - that sounds like good advice, so I would try Perry's suggestion first. 2. Your R channel fading, but not on pre-recorded tapes is an unusual fault description. Normally, if you have signal fading in playback with the classic Nakamichi transport, it just means that it's time for a thorough service. The fading is caused by the tape wandering off track. Stopping and restarting the tape brings the sound back briefly, and then it wanders and fades again. Just what you described, but it's unusual that it isn't happening on pre-recorded tapes as well. I'd be pretty certain that it is a service issue, but can't give you a good reason why it's not happening on cheaper tape. A classic transport needs a thorough service about every ten years, but you may get some relief by making sure that the tape path has been thoroughly cleaned. Regards John Gipps Message: 1 Date: Sat, 8 May 2021 14:20:26 +1000 From: David Thompson via Naktalk To: David Thompson via Naktalk Subject: [naktalk] ZX9 left channel hum Message-ID: <52c281b4-5322-4e95-a91a-97e3b6ff11a8 at Spark> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Not long ago I had my ZX9 deck perfectly calibrated but not long after the left channel began playing back at a low level. Now the left channel gives a constant hum. Curiously, while the right channel plays OK, any cassette that I have recorded starts to play and then after about 15 seconds, it starts to fade right off. When stopping it and immediately resuming play, it does the same thing again. Strangely that does not happen with commercially bought cassettes. I would appreciate any help with what is going on. David From naktalk at lists.naks.com Mon May 10 02:35:48 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (David Thompson via Naktalk) Date: Mon, 10 May 2021 10:35:48 +1000 Subject: [naktalk] ZX-9 left channel hum & fade In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Perry and John Thanks for the feedback and the timely suggestion which I tried this today. Unfortunately I still have the hum in the left channel and no recorded sound.  I did have the deck back to a tech on the low left response but after starting on it he has some personal issues that made him give up and send it back to me. So I decided to remove the front cover and door mount to check the wiring underneath and ensure that the wiring from the cover was not catching any where.  There was a loose earth wire coming from the clip under the head mount screw.  I know that the wire was once attached to the side of the play head. I soldered it the clip under the door mount screw to the right. After all that, the left side hum is still there but the fading of tape sound from some cassettes no longer occurs. I am thinking now to have a closer check on the wiring to the heads to see if some short is occurring there. David On 9 May 2021, 1:19 AM +1000, Perry.nak via Naktalk , wrote: > Interestingly enough, I just restored a ZX-9 with almost the exact same problem, also on the left channel. On the ZX-9, there is a pair of 330uF/10V caps in the playback head amp tied to a resistor that is tied to +12V. Replace both of them with 470uF/16V or 25V. 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Name: IMG_1904.jpeg Type: image/jpeg Size: 58060 bytes Desc: not available URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Mon May 10 04:31:46 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (David Thompson via Naktalk) Date: Mon, 10 May 2021 12:31:46 +1000 Subject: [naktalk] ZX-9 left channel hum & fade References: <8a181cdc-9b55-434c-80ff-e0b2a7a8371f@Spark> Message-ID: <1ca35faa-0e03-42bf-ae6e-5bd5163c0090@Spark> Wiring to the heads looks OK. Is there anything else to check in the left pb amp? Perry and John Thanks for the feedback and the timely suggestion which I tried this today. Unfortunately I still have the hum in the left channel and no recorded sound.  I did have the deck back to a tech on the low left response but after starting on it he has some personal issues that made him give up and send it back to me. So I decided to remove the front cover and door mount to check the wiring underneath and ensure that the wiring from the cover was not catching any where.  There was a loose earth wire coming from the clip under the head mount screw.  I know that the wire was once attached to the side of the play head. I soldered it the clip under the door mount screw to the right. After all that, the left side hum is still there but the fading of tape sound from some cassettes no longer occurs. I am thinking now to have a closer check on the wiring to the heads to see if some short is occurring there. David On 9 May 2021, 1:19 AM +1000, Perry.nak via Naktalk , wrote: > Interestingly enough, I just restored a ZX-9 with almost the exact same problem, also on the left channel. On the ZX-9, there is a pair of 330uF/10V caps in the playback head amp tied to a resistor that is tied to +12V. Replace both of them with 470uF/16V or 25V. 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Name: IMG_1904.jpeg Type: image/jpeg Size: 58060 bytes Desc: not available URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Mon May 10 12:37:35 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (via Naktalk) Date: Mon, 10 May 2021 10:37:35 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [naktalk] ZX-9 left channel hum & fade In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1268256706.593648.1620643055917@mail.yahoo.com>  Did you check the record switch ? it might be not be engaging and disengaging the record mode correctly . I'm not a tech and work mostly on the Pioneer CTF decks . When some tapes play and some don't its usually the transport and or pinch roller . Does the ZX-9 have those "orange caps? I would say the the deck needs a full recap anyway.  -----Original Message---- From: David Thompson via Naktalk To: Perry.nak ; Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks Sent: Sun, May 9, 2021 8:36 pm Subject: Re: [naktalk] ZX-9 left channel hum & fade Perry and John Thanks for the feedback and the timely suggestion which I tried this today. Unfortunately I still have the hum in the left channel and no recorded sound.  I did have the deck back to a tech on the low left response but after starting on it he has some personal issues that made him give up and send it back to me. So I decided to remove the front cover and door mount to check the wiring underneath and ensure that the wiring from the cover was not catching any where.  There was a loose earth wire coming from the clip under the head mount screw.  I know that the wire was once attached to the side of the play head. I soldered it the clip under the door mount screw to the right. After all that, the left side hum is still there but the fading of tape sound from some cassettes no longer occurs. I am thinking now to have a closer check on the wiring to the heads to see if some short is occurring there. DavidOn 9 May 2021, 1:19 AM +1000, Perry.nak via Naktalk , wrote: Interestingly enough, I just restored a ZX-9 with almost the exact same problem, also on the left channel. On the ZX-9, there is a pair of 330uF/10V caps in the playback head amp tied to a resistor that is tied to +12V. Replace both of them with 470uF/16V or 25V. See if that fixes it. 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I would say the the deck needs a full recap anyway. > > > -----Original Message---- > From: David Thompson via Naktalk > To: Perry.nak ; Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > Sent: Sun, May 9, 2021 8:36 pm > Subject: Re: [naktalk] ZX-9 left channel hum & fade > > Perry and John > > Thanks for the feedback and the timely suggestion which I tried this today. Unfortunately I still have the hum in the left channel and no recorded sound. > >  I did have the deck back to a tech on the low left response but after starting on it he has some personal issues that made him give up and send it back to me. So I decided to remove the front cover and door mount to check the wiring underneath and ensure that the wiring from the cover was not catching any where.  There was a loose earth wire coming from the clip under the head mount screw.  I know that the wire was once attached to the side of the play head. I soldered it the clip under the door mount screw to the right. > > After all that, the left side hum is still there but the fading of tape sound from some cassettes no longer occurs. > I am thinking now to have a closer check on the wiring to the heads to see if some short is occurring there. > > David > On 9 May 2021, 1:19 AM +1000, Perry.nak via Naktalk , wrote: > > Interestingly enough, I just restored a ZX-9 with almost the exact same problem, also on the left channel. On the ZX-9, there is a pair of 330uF/10V caps in the playback head amp tied to a resistor that is tied to +12V. Replace both of them with 470uF/16V or 25V. 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URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Mon May 10 13:27:19 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (via Naktalk) Date: Mon, 10 May 2021 21:27:19 +1000 Subject: [naktalk] ZX-9 left channel hum & fade In-Reply-To: <1268256706.593648.1620643055917@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1268256706.593648.1620643055917@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <004001d7458f$71436100$53ca2300$@bigpond.com> If you unplug the play head and measure each channel on the head it should read about 180 ohms From: Naktalk On Behalf Of via Naktalk Sent: Monday, 10 May 2021 8:38 PM To: naktalk at lists.naks.com; perry.nak at comcast.net Subject: Re: [naktalk] ZX-9 left channel hum & fade Did you check the record switch ? it might be not be engaging and disengaging the record mode correctly . I'm not a tech and work mostly on the Pioneer CTF decks . When some tapes play and some don't its usually the transport and or pinch roller . Does the ZX-9 have those "orange caps? I would say the the deck needs a full recap anyway. -----Original Message---- From: David Thompson via Naktalk > To: Perry.nak >; Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > Sent: Sun, May 9, 2021 8:36 pm Subject: Re: [naktalk] ZX-9 left channel hum & fade Perry and John Thanks for the feedback and the timely suggestion which I tried this today. Unfortunately I still have the hum in the left channel and no recorded sound. I did have the deck back to a tech on the low left response but after starting on it he has some personal issues that made him give up and send it back to me. So I decided to remove the front cover and door mount to check the wiring underneath and ensure that the wiring from the cover was not catching any where. There was a loose earth wire coming from the clip under the head mount screw. I know that the wire was once attached to the side of the play head. I soldered it the clip under the door mount screw to the right. After all that, the left side hum is still there but the fading of tape sound from some cassettes no longer occurs. I am thinking now to have a closer check on the wiring to the heads to see if some short is occurring there. David On 9 May 2021, 1:19 AM +1000, Perry.nak via Naktalk , wrote: Interestingly enough, I just restored a ZX-9 with almost the exact same problem, also on the left channel. On the ZX-9, there is a pair of 330uF/10V caps in the playback head amp tied to a resistor that is tied to +12V. Replace both of them with 470uF/16V or 25V. See if that fixes it. 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URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Mon May 10 13:51:01 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Perry.nak via Naktalk) Date: Mon, 10 May 2021 07:51:01 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] ZX-9 hum Message-ID: I should have read your issues more carefully. The caps I suggested replacement for can be a cause of hum (rare) but mainly low or loss of level until the deck is powered off then on again. If stopping the tape and starting again, then the caps have nothing to don with it, as that is definitely transport. I didn’t catch that somehow. Most fading and changes in level on the ZX-9 are belt related. The capstan belt must stay centered on the crowned supply flywheel of a ZX-9 when in idle and when in play. Too tight or too loose, or even too thick or wide a belt, can cause it to wander when in play. When a belt is centered on the supply flywheel, that capstan has a linear feed that is .1-.3% slower than the take up, which supplies the intra capstan tension. When the belt wanders off center, that causes the supply to feed equal or slightly faster, which causes tape wander/skew or eating. It can even cause auto stop. The best easily available belt right now is the FRSP8.97 from Russell Industries. I have gotten between .02 & .03% W&F with that belt consistently. Electronically, the easiest thing to check at this point is to unplug the play head connector from the main board (CN-3 IIRC), and swap the signal leads for L & R. (The skinny white ones). The shields can be left where they are as they are tied together anyway. They slide out easily from the plastic connector by using a fine jewelers screwdriver and depressing the tiny tab on the exposed part of the crimped union. After you swap them and plug it back in, check where the hum is now. If the hum is still in the left channel, then it is not wiring from the head or the head itself, and it is a faulty component or wiring issue in the deck. If the hum switches the right channel, then the electronics are fine and the issue is with the head and/or its wiring. You don’t mention any characteristics of the hum. Have you played a totally blank tape and measured the frequency? Does the hum level change with output level volume adjustments or when Dolby B or C is engaged. What about when switching from tape to source, with no connection to the input jack? If you touch the head with your finder while the tape is playing, does it change? Have you demagnetized the tape path? The muting transistors shunt the play signal to ground, so if you remove them you can determine easier where the hum is originating (if there) while the deck is in idle. Without knowing whether it is 50/60Hz AC hum or something else, it’s impossible to pinpoint a source or cause. Sent from my iPhone From naktalk at lists.naks.com Tue May 11 02:19:55 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (David Thompson via Naktalk) Date: Tue, 11 May 2021 10:19:55 +1000 Subject: [naktalk] ZX-9 hum In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Perry Thanks for the detailed guide. I don’t have the fade any more after checking under the front cover so I am thinking that the capstan belt is OK. I have demagnetised the heads and swapped L and R signal leads. The hum & buzz did shift to the right channel and it is increased by the volume control. I played a blank tape and the hum had reduced buzz in it and lower volume when switching to Dolby B and C. Switching from tape to source cut out the sound entirely. I measured the hum+buzz as 50Hz. So it looks like the problem is back to the head and wiring somewhere. Regards David On 10 May 2021, 10:57 PM +1000, Perry.nak via Naktalk , wrote: > I should have read your issues more carefully. The caps I suggested replacement for can be a cause of hum (rare) but mainly low or loss of level until the deck is powered off then on again. If stopping the tape and starting again, then the caps have nothing to don with it, as that is definitely transport. I didn’t catch that somehow. Most fading and changes in level on the ZX-9 are belt related. The capstan belt must stay centered on the crowned supply flywheel of a ZX-9 when in idle and when in play. Too tight or too loose, or even too thick or wide a belt, can cause it to wander when in play. When a belt is centered on the supply flywheel, that capstan has a linear feed that is .1-.3% slower than the take up, which supplies the intra capstan tension. When the belt wanders off center, that causes the supply to feed equal or slightly faster, which causes tape wander/skew or eating. It can even cause auto stop. The best easily available belt right now is the FRSP8.97 from Russell Industries. I have gotten between .02 & .03% W&F with that belt consistently. > > Electronically, the easiest thing to check at this point is to unplug the play head connector from the main board (CN-3 IIRC), and swap the signal leads for L & R. (The skinny white ones). The shields can be left where they are as they are tied together anyway. They slide out easily from the plastic connector by using a fine jewelers screwdriver and depressing the tiny tab on the exposed part of the crimped union. After you swap them and plug it back in, check where the hum is now. If the hum is still in the left channel, then it is not wiring from the head or the head itself, and it is a faulty component or wiring issue in the deck. If the hum switches the right channel, then the electronics are fine and the issue is with the head and/or its wiring. > > You don’t mention any characteristics of the hum. Have you played a totally blank tape and measured the frequency? Does the hum level change with output level volume adjustments or when Dolby B or C is engaged. What about when switching from tape to source, with no connection to the input jack? If you touch the head with your finder while the tape is playing, does it change? Have you demagnetized the tape path? The muting transistors shunt the play signal to ground, so if you remove them you can determine easier where the hum is originating (if there) while the deck is in idle. Without knowing whether it is 50/60Hz AC hum or something else, it’s impossible to pinpoint a source or cause. > > Sent from my iPhone > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Tue May 11 03:17:36 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Marcus James via Naktalk) Date: Tue, 11 May 2021 11:17:36 +1000 Subject: [naktalk] David Thompson - ZX-9 with hum and low signal in L ch, and fading in remaining R ch. Message-ID: <82C31E15-09D4-41C5-B1D1-DCEA3C0A093B@tpg.com.au> Hi John, We communicated about 18 months ago about the possibility of you servicing my Dragon at some stage down the track. You pesented me with a very thorough breakdown of this process, as well as the cost. I have not sent the deck anywhere else in the hope that you would eventually agree to the undertaking. If you remember I live in Sydney. Also, I have a ZX-7 in storage I would be happy to give to you on top of the overall cost. It has two broken posts on the transport but otherwise functioning. Best regards, Marcus From naktalk at lists.naks.com Tue May 11 08:15:24 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Martin Short via Naktalk) Date: Tue, 11 May 2021 18:15:24 +1200 Subject: [naktalk] ZX-9 with hum and low signal in L ch, and, fading in remaining R ch. (John Gipps via Naktalk) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 10/05/2021 10:00 pm, via Naktalk wrote: > Send Naktalk mailing list submissions to > naktalk at lists.naks.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > naktalk-request at lists.naks.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > naktalk-owner at lists.naks.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Naktalk digest..." > > Naktalk digest mailing list > > Please be careful when replying to this digest mail. A good suggestion is to only subscribe in digest mode if you only want to want to > get the latest news but don't want to participate in discussion. Otherwise, > don't go with digest mode. > > If you decide to reply anyway, reply to the message itself, so remove the digested email from the reply message and copy the subject to the reply message... you really need to know what you are doing. > > Digest messages that are replied to without taking any of these precautions may get discarded. > > Today's Topics: > > 1. David Thompson - ZX-9 with hum and low signal in L ch, and > fading in remaining R ch. (John Gipps via Naktalk)     John,     Good to hear from you. I'll chip in from the cheap seats!. I have noted similar problems with tape running in other machines, albeit single capstan ones, where cheap or pre recorded tapes run fine, expensive ones wander  after a few seconds as David indicates. I think it due to lower quality tape mechanism's putting more drag on the transport, so maintaining 'tension' across the heads. High quality tapes run so freely  with little resistance, so I'd be looking at the back tension maybe. You could check by taking the door off and trying a tape  using a bit of foam or finger even to apply a bit of light pressure to the supply spool cheers Martin > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Tue May 11 13:11:28 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (David Thompson via Naktalk) Date: Tue, 11 May 2021 21:11:28 +1000 Subject: [naktalk] ZX-9 hum References: Message-ID: Further details: when I touch the play head in play, the buzz increases. But when I touch the side metal frame of the deck, the buzz decreases. So an earth problem somewhere? Can you point me to the muting transistors please? David Perry Thanks for the detailed guide. I don’t have the fade any more after checking under the front cover so I am thinking that the capstan belt is OK. I have demagnetised the heads and swapped L and R signal leads. The hum & buzz did shift to the right channel and it is increased by the volume control. I played a blank tape and the hum had reduced buzz in it and lower volume when switching to Dolby B and C. Switching from tape to source cut out the sound entirely. I measured the hum+buzz as 50Hz. So it looks like the problem is back to the head and wiring somewhere. Regards David On 10 May 2021, 10:57 PM +1000, Perry.nak via Naktalk , wrote: > I should have read your issues more carefully. The caps I suggested replacement for can be a cause of hum (rare) but mainly low or loss of level until the deck is powered off then on again. If stopping the tape and starting again, then the caps have nothing to don with it, as that is definitely transport. I didn’t catch that somehow. Most fading and changes in level on the ZX-9 are belt related. The capstan belt must stay centered on the crowned supply flywheel of a ZX-9 when in idle and when in play. Too tight or too loose, or even too thick or wide a belt, can cause it to wander when in play. When a belt is centered on the supply flywheel, that capstan has a linear feed that is .1-.3% slower than the take up, which supplies the intra capstan tension. When the belt wanders off center, that causes the supply to feed equal or slightly faster, which causes tape wander/skew or eating. It can even cause auto stop. The best easily available belt right now is the FRSP8.97 from Russell Industries. I have gotten between .02 & .03% W&F with that belt consistently. > > Electronically, the easiest thing to check at this point is to unplug the play head connector from the main board (CN-3 IIRC), and swap the signal leads for L & R. (The skinny white ones). The shields can be left where they are as they are tied together anyway. They slide out easily from the plastic connector by using a fine jewelers screwdriver and depressing the tiny tab on the exposed part of the crimped union. After you swap them and plug it back in, check where the hum is now. If the hum is still in the left channel, then it is not wiring from the head or the head itself, and it is a faulty component or wiring issue in the deck. If the hum switches the right channel, then the electronics are fine and the issue is with the head and/or its wiring. > > You don’t mention any characteristics of the hum. Have you played a totally blank tape and measured the frequency? Does the hum level change with output level volume adjustments or when Dolby B or C is engaged. What about when switching from tape to source, with no connection to the input jack? If you touch the head with your finder while the tape is playing, does it change? Have you demagnetized the tape path? The muting transistors shunt the play signal to ground, so if you remove them you can determine easier where the hum is originating (if there) while the deck is in idle. Without knowing whether it is 50/60Hz AC hum or something else, it’s impossible to pinpoint a source or cause. > > Sent from my iPhone > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Bob N On Tue, May 11, 2021, 7:11 AM David Thompson via Naktalk < naktalk at lists.naks.com> wrote: > Further details: when I touch the play head in play, the buzz increases. > But when I touch the side metal frame of the deck, the buzz decreases. So > an earth problem somewhere? Can you point me to the muting transistors > please? > David > > Perry > > Thanks for the detailed guide. I don’t have the fade any more after > checking under the front cover so I am thinking that the capstan belt is > OK. I have demagnetised the heads and swapped L and R signal leads. The hum > & buzz did shift to the right channel and it is increased by the volume > control. > > I played a blank tape and the hum had reduced buzz in it and lower volume > when switching to Dolby B and C. > Switching from tape to source cut out the sound entirely. I measured the > hum+buzz as 50Hz. > > So it looks like the problem is back to the head and wiring somewhere. > > Regards > > David > On 10 May 2021, 10:57 PM +1000, Perry.nak via Naktalk < > naktalk at lists.naks.com>, wrote: > > I should have read your issues more carefully. The caps I suggested > replacement for can be a cause of hum (rare) but mainly low or loss of > level until the deck is powered off then on again. If stopping the tape and > starting again, then the caps have nothing to don with it, as that is > definitely transport. I didn’t catch that somehow. Most fading and changes > in level on the ZX-9 are belt related. The capstan belt must stay centered > on the crowned supply flywheel of a ZX-9 when in idle and when in play. Too > tight or too loose, or even too thick or wide a belt, can cause it to > wander when in play. When a belt is centered on the supply flywheel, that > capstan has a linear feed that is .1-.3% slower than the take up, which > supplies the intra capstan tension. When the belt wanders off center, that > causes the supply to feed equal or slightly faster, which causes tape > wander/skew or eating. It can even cause auto stop. The best easily > available belt right now is the FRSP8.97 from Russell Industries. I have > gotten between .02 & .03% W&F with that belt consistently. > > Electronically, the easiest thing to check at this point is to unplug the > play head connector from the main board (CN-3 IIRC), and swap the signal > leads for L & R. (The skinny white ones). The shields can be left where > they are as they are tied together anyway. They slide out easily from the > plastic connector by using a fine jewelers screwdriver and depressing the > tiny tab on the exposed part of the crimped union. After you swap them and > plug it back in, check where the hum is now. If the hum is still in the > left channel, then it is not wiring from the head or the head itself, and > it is a faulty component or wiring issue in the deck. If the hum switches > the right channel, then the electronics are fine and the issue is with the > head and/or its wiring. > > You don’t mention any characteristics of the hum. Have you played a > totally blank tape and measured the frequency? Does the hum level change > with output level volume adjustments or when Dolby B or C is engaged. What > about when switching from tape to source, with no connection to the input > jack? If you touch the head with your finder while the tape is playing, > does it change? Have you demagnetized the tape path? The muting transistors > shunt the play signal to ground, so if you remove them you can determine > easier where the hum is originating (if there) while the deck is in idle. > Without knowing whether it is 50/60Hz AC hum or something else, it’s > impossible to pinpoint a source or cause. > > Sent from my iPhone > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Wed May 12 00:52:41 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (David Thompson via Naktalk) Date: Wed, 12 May 2021 08:52:41 +1000 Subject: [naktalk] ZX-9 hum In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8eaa738b-346c-4363-bcc9-abbdb98678fd@Spark> Yes I was hearing the hum using headphones. Unfortunately, this morning I have lost all sound! I tried grounding the deck frame to the transport and I touched a test pin on the motor control board. Now I am in real trouble! On 12 May 2021, 6:06 AM +1000, Bob Naylor , wrote: > Do u have the hum using headphones on the decks headphone jack? If u already mentioned it, I missed it. > Bob N > > > On Tue, May 11, 2021, 7:11 AM David Thompson via Naktalk wrote: > > > Further details: when I touch the play head in play, the buzz increases. But when I touch the side metal frame of the deck, the buzz decreases. So an earth problem somewhere? Can you point me to the muting transistors please? > > > David > > > > > > Perry > > > > > > Thanks for the detailed guide. I don’t have the fade any more after checking under the front cover so I am thinking that the capstan belt is OK. I have demagnetised the heads and swapped L and R signal leads. The hum & buzz did shift to the right channel and it is increased by the volume control. > > > > > > I played a blank tape and the hum had reduced buzz in it and lower volume when switching to Dolby B and C. > > > Switching from tape to source cut out the sound entirely. I measured the hum+buzz as 50Hz. > > > > > > So it looks like the problem is back to the head and wiring somewhere. > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > David > > > On 10 May 2021, 10:57 PM +1000, Perry.nak via Naktalk , wrote: > > > > I should have read your issues more carefully. The caps I suggested replacement for can be a cause of hum (rare) but mainly low or loss of level until the deck is powered off then on again. If stopping the tape and starting again, then the caps have nothing to don with it, as that is definitely transport. I didn’t catch that somehow. Most fading and changes in level on the ZX-9 are belt related. The capstan belt must stay centered on the crowned supply flywheel of a ZX-9 when in idle and when in play. Too tight or too loose, or even too thick or wide a belt, can cause it to wander when in play. When a belt is centered on the supply flywheel, that capstan has a linear feed that is .1-.3% slower than the take up, which supplies the intra capstan tension. When the belt wanders off center, that causes the supply to feed equal or slightly faster, which causes tape wander/skew or eating. It can even cause auto stop. The best easily available belt right now is the FRSP8.97 from Russell Industries. I have gotten between .02 & .03% W&F with that belt consistently. > > > > > > > > Electronically, the easiest thing to check at this point is to unplug the play head connector from the main board (CN-3 IIRC), and swap the signal leads for L & R. (The skinny white ones). The shields can be left where they are as they are tied together anyway. They slide out easily from the plastic connector by using a fine jewelers screwdriver and depressing the tiny tab on the exposed part of the crimped union. After you swap them and plug it back in, check where the hum is now. If the hum is still in the left channel, then it is not wiring from the head or the head itself, and it is a faulty component or wiring issue in the deck. If the hum switches the right channel, then the electronics are fine and the issue is with the head and/or its wiring. > > > > > > > > You don’t mention any characteristics of the hum. Have you played a totally blank tape and measured the frequency? Does the hum level change with output level volume adjustments or when Dolby B or C is engaged. What about when switching from tape to source, with no connection to the input jack? If you touch the head with your finder while the tape is playing, does it change? Have you demagnetized the tape path? The muting transistors shunt the play signal to ground, so if you remove them you can determine easier where the hum is originating (if there) while the deck is in idle. Without knowing whether it is 50/60Hz AC hum or something else, it’s impossible to pinpoint a source or cause. > > > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > > > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > > > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist > > > > Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > >           Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > >                         Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist > > > Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Wed May 12 04:05:44 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (David Thompson via Naktalk) Date: Wed, 12 May 2021 12:05:44 +1000 Subject: [naktalk] ZX-9 hum References: Message-ID: The transport still runs normally. Yes I was hearing the hum using headphones. Unfortunately, this morning I have lost all sound! I tried grounding the deck frame to the transport and I touched a test pin on the motor control board. Now I am in real trouble! On 12 May 2021, 6:06 AM +1000, Bob Naylor , wrote: > Do u have the hum using headphones on the decks headphone jack? If u already mentioned it, I missed it. > Bob N > Regards David On Tue, May 11, 2021, 7:11 AM David Thompson via Naktalk <naktalk at lists.naks.com> wrote: > Further details: when I touch the play head in play, the buzz increases. But when I touch the side metal frame of the deck, the buzz decreases. So an earth problem somewhere? Can you point me to the muting transistors please? > David > > Perry > > Thanks for the detailed guide. I don’t have the fade any more after checking under the front cover so I am thinking that the capstan belt is OK. I have demagnetised the heads and swapped L and R signal leads. The hum & buzz did shift to the right channel and it is increased by the volume control. > > I played a blank tape and the hum had reduced buzz in it and lower volume when switching to Dolby B and C. > Switching from tape to source cut out the sound entirely. I measured the hum+buzz as 50Hz. > > So it looks like the problem is back to the head and wiring somewhere. > > Regards > > David > On 10 May 2021, 10:57 PM +1000, Perry.nak via Naktalk <naktalk at lists.naks.com>, wrote: > > I should have read your issues more carefully. The caps I suggested replacement for can be a cause of hum (rare) but mainly low or loss of level until the deck is powered off then on again. If stopping the tape and starting again, then the caps have nothing to don with it, as that is definitely transport. I didn’t catch that somehow. Most fading and changes in level on the ZX-9 are belt related. The capstan belt must stay centered on the crowned supply flywheel of a ZX-9 when in idle and when in play. Too tight or too loose, or even too thick or wide a belt, can cause it to wander when in play. When a belt is centered on the supply flywheel, that capstan has a linear feed that is .1-.3% slower than the take up, which supplies the intra capstan tension. When the belt wanders off center, that causes the supply to feed equal or slightly faster, which causes tape wander/skew or eating. It can even cause auto stop. The best easily available belt right now is the FRSP8.97 from Russell Industries. I have gotten between .02 & .03% W&F with that belt consistently. > > > > Electronically, the easiest thing to check at this point is to unplug the play head connector from the main board (CN-3 IIRC), and swap the signal leads for L & R. (The skinny white ones). The shields can be left where they are as they are tied together anyway. They slide out easily from the plastic connector by using a fine jewelers screwdriver and depressing the tiny tab on the exposed part of the crimped union. After you swap them and plug it back in, check where the hum is now. If the hum is still in the left channel, then it is not wiring from the head or the head itself, and it is a faulty component or wiring issue in the deck. If the hum switches the right channel, then the electronics are fine and the issue is with the head and/or its wiring. > > > > You don’t mention any characteristics of the hum. Have you played a totally blank tape and measured the frequency? Does the hum level change with output level volume adjustments or when Dolby B or C is engaged. What about when switching from tape to source, with no connection to the input jack? If you touch the head with your finder while the tape is playing, does it change? Have you demagnetized the tape path? The muting transistors shunt the play signal to ground, so if you remove them you can determine easier where the hum is originating (if there) while the deck is in idle. 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URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Thu May 13 18:18:16 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (John Gipps via Naktalk) Date: Fri, 14 May 2021 02:18:16 +1000 Subject: [naktalk] Why cheap tapes might be travelling better than good tapes in David's ZX-9 References: <00d101d74813$9877b740$c96725c0$.ref@aol.com> Message-ID: <00d101d74813$9877b740$c96725c0$@aol.com> 7. ZX-9 with hum and low signal in L ch, and, fading in remaining R ch. (John Gipps via Naktalk) (Martin Short via Naktalk) Hi Martin Great to know you're still on the other side of the ditch reading NakTalk and giving good advice. Your explanation is almost certainly correct. If cheaper (pre-recorded) tapes cause more back tension when played - that might assist stable tape travel under some conditions. I'm pretty confident that if David gives his ZX-9 a big comprehensive service and has an electronic repair to rectify his low or missing channel, he'll be back to enjoying one of the two best decks that Nakamichi ever made. Regards John Gipps Message: 7 Date: Tue, 11 May 2021 18:15:24 +1200 From: Martin Short via Naktalk To: via Naktalk Subject: [naktalk] ZX-9 with hum and low signal in L ch, and, fading in remaining R ch. (John Gipps via Naktalk) Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed" John, Good to hear from you. I'll chip in from the cheap seats!. I have noted similar problems with tape running in other machines, albeit single capstan ones, where cheap or pre recorded tapes run fine, expensive ones wander after a few seconds as David indicates. I think it due to lower quality tape mechanism's putting more drag on the transport, so maintaining 'tension' across the heads. High quality tapes run so freely with little resistance, so I'd be looking at the back tension maybe. You could check by taking the door off and trying a tape using a bit of foam or finger even to apply a bit of light pressure to the supply spool cheers Martin From naktalk at lists.naks.com Thu May 13 18:27:53 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (John Gipps via Naktalk) Date: Fri, 14 May 2021 02:27:53 +1000 Subject: [naktalk] Marcus - re your Dragon and ZX-7 References: <00d301d74814$eff90860$cfeb1920$.ref@aol.com> Message-ID: <00d301d74814$eff90860$cfeb1920$@aol.com> 6. Re: David Thompson - ZX-9 with hum and low signal in L ch, and fading in remaining R ch. (Marcus James via Naktalk) Hi Marcus Nice to hear from you - I still have your email address, so I'll reply direct to you. Cheers John Gipps Message: 6 Date: Tue, 11 May 2021 11:17:36 +1000 From: Marcus James via Naktalk To: via Naktalk Subject: Re: [naktalk] David Thompson - ZX-9 with hum and low signal in L ch, and fading in remaining R ch. Message-ID: <82C31E15-09D4-41C5-B1D1-DCEA3C0A093B at tpg.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi John, We communicated about 18 months ago about the possibility of you servicing my Dragon at some stage down the track. You pesented me with a very thorough breakdown of this process, as well as the cost. I have not sent the deck anywhere else in the hope that you would eventually agree to the undertaking. If you remember I live in Sydney. Also, I have a ZX-7 in storage I would be happy to give to you on top of the overall cost. It has two broken posts on the transport but otherwise functioning. Best regards, Marcus From naktalk at lists.naks.com Fri May 14 02:34:08 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Marcus James via Naktalk) Date: Fri, 14 May 2021 10:34:08 +1000 Subject: [naktalk] Marcus - re your Dragon and ZX-7 Message-ID: <7C1E86CA-3542-4635-AAE0-AF8F76F0600C@tpg.com.au> Hi John, Thanks for getting back to me. Apologies to all for interloping on this thread. I am unsure how to send a personal message on this forum. My email address has changed since last we talked. I will try the old one I have for you again. Regards, Marcus From naktalk at lists.naks.com Fri May 14 08:37:04 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (David Thompson via Naktalk) Date: Fri, 14 May 2021 16:37:04 +1000 Subject: [naktalk] Marcus - re your Dragon and ZX-7 In-Reply-To: <00d301d74814$eff90860$cfeb1920$@aol.com> References: <00d301d74814$eff90860$cfeb1920$.ref@aol.com> <00d301d74814$eff90860$cfeb1920$@aol.com> Message-ID: <233a52d2-e301-46e4-a360-5944521ab3da@Spark> John You may not have received my email. I would appreciate your assistance also. Regards David On 14 May 2021, 5:18 AM +1000, John Gipps via Naktalk , wrote: > 6. Re: David Thompson - ZX-9 with hum and low signal in L ch, > and fading in remaining R ch. (Marcus James via Naktalk) > > > Hi Marcus > > Nice to hear from you - I still have your email address, so I'll reply direct to you. > > Cheers > > John Gipps > > > > Message: 6 > Date: Tue, 11 May 2021 11:17:36 +1000 > From: Marcus James via Naktalk > To: via Naktalk > Subject: Re: [naktalk] David Thompson - ZX-9 with hum and low signal > in L ch, and fading in remaining R ch. > Message-ID: <82C31E15-09D4-41C5-B1D1-DCEA3C0A093B at tpg.com.au> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Hi John, > > We communicated about 18 months ago about the possibility of you servicing my Dragon at some stage down the track. > You pesented me with a very thorough breakdown of this process, as well as the cost. > I have not sent the deck anywhere else in the hope that you would eventually agree to the undertaking. > If you remember I live in Sydney. > > Also, I have a ZX-7 in storage I would be happy to give to you on top of the overall cost. > It has two broken posts on the transport but otherwise functioning. > > Best regards, > > Marcus > > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Fri May 14 15:22:15 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (John Gipps via Naktalk) Date: Fri, 14 May 2021 23:22:15 +1000 Subject: [naktalk] ZX-9 - David Thompson References: <000701d748c4$2b5a3140$820e93c0$.ref@aol.com> Message-ID: <000701d748c4$2b5a3140$820e93c0$@aol.com> Hi David Yes - I didn't receive your email. I'll email you so you have my address, and you can resend it. Regards John Message: 4 Date: Fri, 14 May 2021 16:37:04 +1000 From: David Thompson via Naktalk To: John Gipps , Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks Subject: Re: [naktalk] Marcus - re your Dragon and ZX-7 Message-ID: <233a52d2-e301-46e4-a360-5944521ab3da at Spark> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" John You may not have received my email. I would appreciate your assistance also. Regards David From naktalk at lists.naks.com Sat May 15 06:19:43 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Joy-Ell & Rainer via Naktalk) Date: Sat, 15 May 2021 00:19:43 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] Pro Chrome traveling tape Message-ID: <1621052383.kgljb7sw0ocoowcw@webmail.sasktel.net> Any interest in doing a traveling tape? I haven't been involved in one ( Yet! ) but I'll supply the ATR pro-chrome C-90 and first recording on my ZX-9 to get it started! :)   Cheers, Rainer S.  (80stech)  From naktalk at lists.naks.com Sat May 15 06:34:50 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Jeff Ringer via Naktalk) Date: Fri, 14 May 2021 23:34:50 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Pro Chrome traveling tape In-Reply-To: <1621052383.kgljb7sw0ocoowcw@webmail.sasktel.net> References: <1621052383.kgljb7sw0ocoowcw@webmail.sasktel.net> Message-ID: <878D5EF5-3468-46A3-91B9-0B7C299A12C5@yahoo.com> Does anyone know who to send my RX-505 for an overhaul? I’ve tried several people, but never get a response. I can’t do it for several reasons. Thanks! > On May 14, 2021, at 11:19 PM, Joy-Ell & Rainer via Naktalk wrote: > > Any interest in doing a traveling tape? I haven't been involved in one ( Yet! ) but I'll supply the ATR pro-chrome C-90 and first recording on my ZX-9 to get it started! :) > > Cheers, > Rainer S. (80stech) > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= From naktalk at lists.naks.com Sat May 15 13:31:55 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Perry.nak via Naktalk) Date: Sat, 15 May 2021 07:31:55 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] RX-505 restore Message-ID: <0B882C3C-7381-4B19-8D0C-CF445EBF013C@comcast.net> Jeff, We would need to know where you are located to suggest a good tech. Sent from my iPhone From naktalk at lists.naks.com Sat May 15 14:44:54 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (David Pescovitz via Naktalk) Date: Sat, 15 May 2021 08:44:54 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] RX-505 restore In-Reply-To: <0B882C3C-7381-4B19-8D0C-CF445EBF013C@comcast.net> References: <0B882C3C-7381-4B19-8D0C-CF445EBF013C@comcast.net> Message-ID: <8F93F822-F6D0-4C5A-B0F6-78F89F720180@pesco.net> Willy Hermann did a complete restoration of my RX-505 and his work is magnificent. Very kind and warm fellow as well. https://www.willyhermannservices.com/ > On May 15, 2021, at 7:31 AM, Perry.nak via Naktalk wrote: > > Jeff, > We would need to know where you are located to suggest a good tech. > > Sent from my iPhone > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= From naktalk at lists.naks.com Sat May 15 17:37:53 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Jeff Ringer via Naktalk) Date: Sat, 15 May 2021 10:37:53 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] RX-505 restore In-Reply-To: <8F93F822-F6D0-4C5A-B0F6-78F89F720180@pesco.net> References: <0B882C3C-7381-4B19-8D0C-CF445EBF013C@comcast.net> <8F93F822-F6D0-4C5A-B0F6-78F89F720180@pesco.net> Message-ID: Thanks to all. I have found one. > On May 15, 2021, at 7:44 AM, David Pescovitz via Naktalk wrote: > > Willy Hermann did a complete restoration of my RX-505 and his work is magnificent. Very kind and warm fellow as well. > > https://www.willyhermannservices.com/ > > >> On May 15, 2021, at 7:31 AM, Perry.nak via Naktalk wrote: >> >> Jeff, >> We would need to know where you are located to suggest a good tech. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> ========---------------------------------------------------------========= >> Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com >> ========---------------------------------------------------------========= >> Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist >> Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >> ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= From naktalk at lists.naks.com Wed May 19 19:28:59 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Joy-Ell & Rainer via Naktalk) Date: Wed, 19 May 2021 13:28:59 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] Fwd: Pro Chrome traveling tape Message-ID: <1621445339.y9whcsqtscc4w04o@webmail.sasktel.net> Anybody want to participate? Could be really cool as I know we have members from all over the world. I could use my Dragon to digitize the final copy for distribution. It doesn't have to be the Pro Chrome tape either, I have Sony metal XRs, vintage TDK SA, Maxell XLIIs etc. Just thought the chrome option would add some interest and it is an excellent sounding tape! :)  Open to any suggestions on music as well ;) Cheers, Rainer S.  (80stech)   -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Pro Chrome traveling tape Date: Sat, 15 May 2021 00:19:43 -0400 From: Joy-Ell & Rainer To: Naktalk at lists.naks.com Any interest in doing a traveling tape? I haven't been involved in one ( Yet! ) but I'll supply the ATR pro-chrome C-90 and first recording on my ZX-9 to get it started! :)   Cheers, Rainer S.  (80stech)  From naktalk at lists.naks.com Wed May 19 20:30:49 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Daniel Botelho via Naktalk) Date: Wed, 19 May 2021 14:30:49 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] Fwd: Pro Chrome traveling tape In-Reply-To: <1621445339.y9whcsqtscc4w04o@webmail.sasktel.net> Message-ID: I'll bite. 😊 Chrome wouldn't be a bad option. Would that be with the 120msec recording option? Dolby or no? I'm totally good with most music. 80s/90s works for me. 😊   Original Message   From: naktalk at lists.naks.com Sent: May 19, 2021 1:29 p.m. To: naktalk at lists.naks.com Reply to: joyell.solie at sasktel.net; naktalk at lists.naks.com Subject: [naktalk] Fwd: Pro Chrome traveling tape Anybody want to participate? Could be really cool as I know we have members from all over the world. I could use my Dragon to digitize the final copy for distribution. It doesn't have to be the Pro Chrome tape either, I have Sony metal XRs, vintage TDK SA, Maxell XLIIs etc. Just thought the chrome option would add some interest and it is an excellent sounding tape! :)  Open to any suggestions on music as well ;) Cheers, Rainer S.  (80stech)   -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Pro Chrome traveling tape Date: Sat, 15 May 2021 00:19:43 -0400 From: Joy-Ell & Rainer To: Naktalk at lists.naks.com Any interest in doing a traveling tape? I haven't been involved in one ( Yet! ) but I'll supply the ATR pro-chrome C-90 and first recording on my ZX-9 to get it started! :)   Cheers, Rainer S.  (80stech)  ========---------------------------------------------------------=========           Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com ========---------------------------------------------------------=========                         Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= From naktalk at lists.naks.com Wed May 19 23:26:32 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Joy-Ell & Rainer via Naktalk) Date: Wed, 19 May 2021 17:26:32 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] Fwd: Pro Chrome traveling tape In-Reply-To: References: <1621445339.y9whcsqtscc4w04o@webmail.sasktel.net> Message-ID: <1621459592.z91693ppssc8gcsg@webmail.sasktel.net> Hi Daniel, What ever you want, I would have normally gone with 120ms but the ZX-9 is working so well with these tapes I might use the 70. All your choice, just write down how you did it and pass it on to the next person. Hopefully we get a few more people interested :) Cheers, Rainer S, (80stech) On Wed, 19 May 2021 14:30:49 -0400, Daniel Botelho via Naktalk wrote: I'll bite. 😊 Chrome wouldn't be a bad option. Would that be with the 120msec recording option? Dolby or no? I'm totally good with most music. 80s/90s works for me. 😊   Original Message   From: naktalk at lists.naks.com Sent: May 19, 2021 1:29 p.m. To: naktalk at lists.naks.com Reply to: joyell.solie at sasktel.net; naktalk at lists.naks.com Subject: [naktalk] Fwd: Pro Chrome traveling tape Anybody want to participate? Could be really cool as I know we have members from all over the world. I could use my Dragon to digitize the final copy for distribution. It doesn't have to be the Pro Chrome tape either, I have Sony metal XRs, vintage TDK SA, Maxell XLIIs etc. Just thought the chrome option would add some interest and it is an excellent sounding tape! :)  Open to any suggestions on music as well ;) Cheers, Rainer S.  (80stech)   -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Pro Chrome traveling tape Date: Sat, 15 May 2021 00:19:43 -0400 From: Joy-Ell & Rainer To: Naktalk at lists.naks.com Any interest in doing a traveling tape? I haven't been involved in one ( Yet! ) but I'll supply the ATR pro-chrome C-90 and first recording on my ZX-9 to get it started! :)   Cheers, Rainer S.  (80stech)  ========---------------------------------------------------------=========   Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com ========---------------------------------------------------------=========     Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------=========   From naktalk at lists.naks.com Thu May 20 09:37:41 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Steve Kulak via Naktalk) Date: Thu, 20 May 2021 17:37:41 +1000 Subject: [naktalk] Marcus - re your Dragon and ZX-7 In-Reply-To: <00d301d74814$eff90860$cfeb1920$@aol.com> References: <00d301d74814$eff90860$cfeb1920$.ref@aol.com> <00d301d74814$eff90860$cfeb1920$@aol.com> Message-ID: John, Re 682zx update? Have tried getting you on your AOL address. Steve ⁣Get BlueMail for Android ​ On 14 May 2021, 05:18, at 05:18, John Gipps via Naktalk wrote: > 6. Re: David Thompson - ZX-9 with hum and low signal in L ch, > and fading in remaining R ch. (Marcus James via Naktalk) > > >Hi Marcus > >Nice to hear from you - I still have your email address, so I'll reply >direct to you. > >Cheers > >John Gipps > > > >Message: 6 >Date: Tue, 11 May 2021 11:17:36 +1000 >From: Marcus James via Naktalk >To: via Naktalk >Subject: Re: [naktalk] David Thompson - ZX-9 with hum and low signal > in L ch, and fading in remaining R ch. >Message-ID: <82C31E15-09D4-41C5-B1D1-DCEA3C0A093B at tpg.com.au> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > >Hi John, > >We communicated about 18 months ago about the possibility of you >servicing my Dragon at some stage down the track. >You pesented me with a very thorough breakdown of this process, as well >as the cost. >I have not sent the deck anywhere else in the hope that you would >eventually agree to the undertaking. >If you remember I live in Sydney. > >Also, I have a ZX-7 in storage I would be happy to give to you on top >of the overall cost. >It has two broken posts on the transport but otherwise functioning. > >Best regards, > >Marcus > > > >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist >Maintain your account here: >http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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P.S. prefer 80s/ New wave/ synthpop/ Best Regards, Miroslav Tkachenko 80 Via Borghese, Woodbridge, Ontario, L4H 0Y6, Canada Cell/ Whatsapp +1-647 4095666 Skype - miroslavt1208 Facebook - facebook.com/miroslav.tkachenko.9 Instagram - miroslavt2018​ Twitter - @miroslavt https://myspace.com/opiumsongs ________________________________ From: Naktalk on behalf of Perry.nak via Naktalk Sent: May 20, 2021 7:54 AM To: naktalk at lists.naks.com Subject: [naktalk] Chrome Traveling tape Count me in. 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URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Fri May 21 01:21:29 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (John Gipps via Naktalk) Date: Fri, 21 May 2021 09:21:29 +1000 Subject: [naktalk] Steve Kulak - Possible problem with my email address References: <009d01d74dce$e0b8fb20$a22af160$.ref@aol.com> Message-ID: <009d01d74dce$e0b8fb20$a22af160$@aol.com> Hi Steve I must have a problem with it, as you're the second person having trouble with it at present. It's strange, because I'm getting the normal huge number of spam/trash/junk emails, and loads of wanted emails. I have a second email address - please try it and see how we go. It is nakandampexpert at gmail.com Please CC my normal address of johngipps at aol.com when you send something, and you could also phone me or SMS. Regards John Message: 4 Date: Thu, 20 May 2021 17:37:41 +1000 From: Steve Kulak via Naktalk To: johngipps at aol.com, Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks Cc: naktalk-request at lists.naks.com Subject: Re: [naktalk] Marcus - re your Dragon and ZX-7 Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" John, Re 682zx update? Have tried getting you on your AOL address. Steve From naktalk at lists.naks.com Fri May 21 14:49:03 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (john kojic via Naktalk) Date: Fri, 21 May 2021 12:49:03 +0000 Subject: [naktalk] Steve Kulak - Possible problem with my email address In-Reply-To: <009d01d74dce$e0b8fb20$a22af160$@aol.com> References: <009d01d74dce$e0b8fb20$a22af160$.ref@aol.com>, <009d01d74dce$e0b8fb20$a22af160$@aol.com> Message-ID: hi all - i think im beginning to understand how naktalk works- but how do i start my own thread? ________________________________ From: Naktalk on behalf of John Gipps via Naktalk Sent: 20 May 2021 23:21 To: naktalk at lists.naks.com ; naktalk-request at lists.naks.com Cc: JohnGipps at aol.com Subject: [naktalk] Steve Kulak - Possible problem with my email address Hi Steve I must have a problem with it, as you're the second person having trouble with it at present. It's strange, because I'm getting the normal huge number of spam/trash/junk emails, and loads of wanted emails. I have a second email address - please try it and see how we go. It is nakandampexpert at gmail.com Please CC my normal address of johngipps at aol.com when you send something, and you could also phone me or SMS. Regards John Message: 4 Date: Thu, 20 May 2021 17:37:41 +1000 From: Steve Kulak via Naktalk To: johngipps at aol.com, Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks Cc: naktalk-request at lists.naks.com Subject: Re: [naktalk] Marcus - re your Dragon and ZX-7 Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" John, Re 682zx update? Have tried getting you on your AOL address. Steve ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Fri May 21 21:42:22 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Joy-Ell & Rainer via Naktalk) Date: Fri, 21 May 2021 15:42:22 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] Pro Chrome traveling tape Message-ID: <1621626142.dp7br8jqos4c40k4@webmail.sasktel.net> OK, I have Pink Martini--AmadaMio     Remastered Flac version  (I maybe should have went with the MP3 version, they both have good points and some problems.                      Papa Do Run Run--Good Vibrations    Off CD played on computer drive Both on old PC, old sound blaster card, dollar store cables,  windowsXP and WinAmp 70ms and no Dolby but I have to admit, after some recapping and work on the ZX-9 I might be becoming a Dolby C fan! Daniel, if you send me your address I will get it sent off to you, then it's Perry and Miroslav. I think we are good to each put a couple of songs on. :) Cheers, Rainer   -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [naktalk] Fwd: Pro Chrome traveling tape Date: Wed, 19 May 2021 17:26:32 -0400 From: Joy-Ell & Rainer To: daniel.botelho at gmail.com, Naktalk Hi Daniel, What ever you want, I would have normally gone with 120ms but the ZX-9 is working so well with these tapes I might use the 70. All your choice, just write down how you did it and pass it on to the next person. Hopefully we get a few more people interested :) Cheers, Rainer S, (80stech) On Wed, 19 May 2021 14:30:49 -0400, Daniel Botelho via Naktalk wrote: I'll bite. 😊 Chrome wouldn't be a bad option. Would that be with the 120msec recording option? Dolby or no? I'm totally good with most music. 80s/90s works for me. 😊   From naktalk at lists.naks.com Sat May 22 06:41:28 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Joy-Ell & Rainer via Naktalk) Date: Sat, 22 May 2021 00:41:28 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] Pro Chrome traveling tape Message-ID: <1621658488.qhs531z9r4gkcw4s@webmail.sasktel.net> So I tried to send this off today but it didn't fit through the letter mail size slot so would have been $15 instead of $2 so I took it back and repacked without a case but just the tape inside a antistatic bag inside a padded envelope which puts it well under the size limit so hopefully cheaper for other countries as well. It's a C-90 so lots of room , anyone else want to add some tracks ?   Would be pretty cool if this could get to Hawaii,  Austria, Australia, India and as many countries as possible! :) Daniel, a live track and/or non Nak track would be pretty cool too!     If anyone wants to digitize along the way and post a link better yet! :) Cheers, Rainer S. (80steck0       -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: Pro Chrome traveling tape Date: Fri, 21 May 2021 16:41:37 -0400 From: Daniel Botelho To: Joy-Ell & Rainer That is pretty straightforward. :) Not sure if my Dragon is up to snuff, but I guess we will see. My tascam 122MKII is a great recording deck as well as my pioneer CT-A9X, but may as well keep it in the nak family. 😎 Great stuff. I'll try the 70 vs 120us, as I've heard many great things from using it. Will probably do a vinyl drop. Maybe 2 . 😁   Original Message   From: joyell.solie at sasktel.net Sent: May 21, 2021 4:13 p.m. To: daniel.botelho at gmail.com Reply to: joyell.solie at sasktel.net Subject: Re: Pro Chrome traveling tape Yep, just put yours on after mine and pass it forward. ( I'm thinking keep things in order of who chimes in when)    Whatever you want to do for recordings Daniel. I haven't done one of these before either so kinda making this up as we go! ;)   On Fri, 21 May 2021 16:01:26 -0400, Daniel Botelho wrote: Okay, I'm digging it. :). This is probably going to be very neat to do I'm thinking a live track or 2. Now how does this normally work? I've never done this before... 😁. I just add 3 tracks of my choice after yours and we are set to mail to the next guy? . Are there some rules of engagement? Thanks! This sounds like fun.   From naktalk at lists.naks.com Sat May 22 07:58:51 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Ural Durusu via Naktalk) Date: Sat, 22 May 2021 08:58:51 +0300 Subject: [naktalk] Pro Chrome traveling tape In-Reply-To: <1621658488.qhs531z9r4gkcw4s@webmail.sasktel.net> References: <1621658488.qhs531z9r4gkcw4s@webmail.sasktel.net> Message-ID: I remember there were plastic inserts for the cassette reels to keep them fixed and unwind , if you don’t use it’s box. You may insert something like into the reel hubs to travel it safely. If you like I can also add 1 or 2 tracks from Turkey with any of my decks; Dragon, CR-7, DR10 which one you like. Ural iPhone’umdan gönderildi > Joy-Ell & Rainer via Naktalk şunları yazdı (22 May 2021 07:41): > >  > So I tried to send this off today but it didn't fit through the letter mail size slot so would have been $15 instead of $2 so I took it back and repacked without a case but just the tape inside a antistatic bag inside a padded envelope which puts it well under the size limit so hopefully cheaper for other countries as well. > It's a C-90 so lots of room , anyone else want to add some tracks ? > Would be pretty cool if this could get to Hawaii, Austria, Australia, India and as many countries as possible! :) > Daniel, a live track and/or non Nak track would be pretty cool too! > If anyone wants to digitize along the way and post a link better yet! :) > > Cheers, > Rainer S. (80steck0 > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: Pro Chrome traveling tape > Date: Fri, 21 May 2021 16:41:37 -0400 > From: Daniel Botelho > To: Joy-Ell & Rainer > > > That is pretty straightforward. :) > > Not sure if my Dragon is up to snuff, but I guess we will see. My tascam 122MKII is a great recording deck as well as my pioneer CT-A9X, but may as well keep it in the nak family. 😎 > > Great stuff. I'll try the 70 vs 120us, as I've heard many great things from using it. > > Will probably do a vinyl drop. Maybe 2 . 😁 > > > > > > Original Message > > > From: joyell.solie at sasktel.net > Sent: May 21, 2021 4:13 p.m. > To: daniel.botelho at gmail.com > Reply to: joyell.solie at sasktel.net > Subject: Re: Pro Chrome traveling tape > > > Yep, just put yours on after mine and pass it forward. ( I'm thinking keep things in order of who chimes in when) > Whatever you want to do for recordings Daniel. I haven't done one of these before either so kinda making this up as we go! ;) > > > > On Fri, 21 May 2021 16:01:26 -0400, Daniel Botelho wrote: > > Okay, I'm digging it. :). This is probably going to be very neat to do > > I'm thinking a live track or 2. > > Now how does this normally work? I've never done this before... 😁. I just add 3 tracks of my choice after yours and we are set to mail to the next guy? . Are there some rules of engagement? > > Thanks! This sounds like fun. > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= From naktalk at lists.naks.com Sat May 22 07:58:51 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Ural Durusu via Naktalk) Date: Sat, 22 May 2021 08:58:51 +0300 Subject: [naktalk] Pro Chrome traveling tape In-Reply-To: <1621658488.qhs531z9r4gkcw4s@webmail.sasktel.net> References: <1621658488.qhs531z9r4gkcw4s@webmail.sasktel.net> Message-ID: I remember there were plastic inserts for the cassette reels to keep them fixed and unwind , if you don’t use it’s box. You may insert something like into the reel hubs to travel it safely. If you like I can also add 1 or 2 tracks from Turkey with any of my decks; Dragon, CR-7, DR10 which one you like. Ural iPhone’umdan gönderildi > Joy-Ell & Rainer via Naktalk şunları yazdı (22 May 2021 07:41): > >  > So I tried to send this off today but it didn't fit through the letter mail size slot so would have been $15 instead of $2 so I took it back and repacked without a case but just the tape inside a antistatic bag inside a padded envelope which puts it well under the size limit so hopefully cheaper for other countries as well. > It's a C-90 so lots of room , anyone else want to add some tracks ? > Would be pretty cool if this could get to Hawaii, Austria, Australia, India and as many countries as possible! :) > Daniel, a live track and/or non Nak track would be pretty cool too! > If anyone wants to digitize along the way and post a link better yet! :) > > Cheers, > Rainer S. (80steck0 > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: Pro Chrome traveling tape > Date: Fri, 21 May 2021 16:41:37 -0400 > From: Daniel Botelho > To: Joy-Ell & Rainer > > > That is pretty straightforward. :) > > Not sure if my Dragon is up to snuff, but I guess we will see. My tascam 122MKII is a great recording deck as well as my pioneer CT-A9X, but may as well keep it in the nak family. 😎 > > Great stuff. I'll try the 70 vs 120us, as I've heard many great things from using it. > > Will probably do a vinyl drop. Maybe 2 . 😁 > > > > > > Original Message > > > From: joyell.solie at sasktel.net > Sent: May 21, 2021 4:13 p.m. > To: daniel.botelho at gmail.com > Reply to: joyell.solie at sasktel.net > Subject: Re: Pro Chrome traveling tape > > > Yep, just put yours on after mine and pass it forward. ( I'm thinking keep things in order of who chimes in when) > Whatever you want to do for recordings Daniel. I haven't done one of these before either so kinda making this up as we go! ;) > > > > On Fri, 21 May 2021 16:01:26 -0400, Daniel Botelho wrote: > > Okay, I'm digging it. :). This is probably going to be very neat to do > > I'm thinking a live track or 2. > > Now how does this normally work? I've never done this before... 😁. I just add 3 tracks of my choice after yours and we are set to mail to the next guy? . Are there some rules of engagement? > > Thanks! This sounds like fun. > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= From naktalk at lists.naks.com Sat May 22 08:15:57 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Jeff Ringer via Naktalk) Date: Sat, 22 May 2021 01:15:57 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Pro Chrome traveling tape In-Reply-To: <1621658488.qhs531z9r4gkcw4s@webmail.sasktel.net> References: <1621658488.qhs531z9r4gkcw4s@webmail.sasktel.net> Message-ID: I can add a bootleg The Cure, or bootleg R.E.M. if anyone is interested. > On May 21, 2021, at 11:41 PM, Joy-Ell & Rainer via Naktalk wrote: > > > So I tried to send this off today but it didn't fit through the letter mail size slot so would have been $15 instead of $2 so I took it back and repacked without a case but just the tape inside a antistatic bag inside a padded envelope which puts it well under the size limit so hopefully cheaper for other countries as well. > It's a C-90 so lots of room , anyone else want to add some tracks ? > Would be pretty cool if this could get to Hawaii, Austria, Australia, India and as many countries as possible! :) > Daniel, a live track and/or non Nak track would be pretty cool too! > If anyone wants to digitize along the way and post a link better yet! :) > > Cheers, > Rainer S. (80steck0 > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: Pro Chrome traveling tape > Date: Fri, 21 May 2021 16:41:37 -0400 > From: Daniel Botelho > To: Joy-Ell & Rainer > > > That is pretty straightforward. :) > > Not sure if my Dragon is up to snuff, but I guess we will see. My tascam 122MKII is a great recording deck as well as my pioneer CT-A9X, but may as well keep it in the nak family. 😎 > > Great stuff. I'll try the 70 vs 120us, as I've heard many great things from using it. > > Will probably do a vinyl drop. Maybe 2 . 😁 > > > > > > Original Message > > > From: joyell.solie at sasktel.net > Sent: May 21, 2021 4:13 p.m. > To: daniel.botelho at gmail.com > Reply to: joyell.solie at sasktel.net > Subject: Re: Pro Chrome traveling tape > > > Yep, just put yours on after mine and pass it forward. ( I'm thinking keep things in order of who chimes in when) > Whatever you want to do for recordings Daniel. I haven't done one of these before either so kinda making this up as we go! ;) > > > > On Fri, 21 May 2021 16:01:26 -0400, Daniel Botelho wrote: > > Okay, I'm digging it. :). This is probably going to be very neat to do > > I'm thinking a live track or 2. > > Now how does this normally work? I've never done this before... 😁. I just add 3 tracks of my choice after yours and we are set to mail to the next guy? . Are there some rules of engagement? > > Thanks! This sounds like fun. > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= From naktalk at lists.naks.com Sat May 22 19:31:04 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Joy-Ell & Rainer via Naktalk) Date: Sat, 22 May 2021 13:31:04 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] Pro Chrome traveling tape In-Reply-To: References: <1621658488.qhs531z9r4gkcw4s@webmail.sasktel.net> Message-ID: <1621704664.855vvmai8scs8kcs@webmail.sasktel.net> Package is on it's way to Daniel! :) On Ural's suggestion I broke off the side of the case that holds the reels and put that in with the tape. It's well under 2cm with the padded envelope so that should keep the postage low for everyone.  Jeff, I'm a fan of both so no complaints from me ;)   So far we have:  Rainer (me) Daniel Perry Miroslav  Ural Jeff On Sat, 22 May 2021 01:15:57 -0500, Jeff Ringer via Naktalk wrote: I can add a bootleg The Cure, or bootleg R.E.M. if anyone is interested. > On May 21, 2021, at 11:41 PM, Joy-Ell & Rainer via Naktalk wrote: > > > So I tried to send this off today but it didn't fit through the letter mail size slot so would have been $15 instead of $2 so I took it back and repacked without a case but just the tape inside a antistatic bag inside a padded envelope which puts it well under the size limit so hopefully cheaper for other countries as well. > It's a C-90 so lots of room , anyone else want to add some tracks ? > Would be pretty cool if this could get to Hawaii, Austria, Australia, India and as many countries as possible! :) > Daniel, a live track and/or non Nak track would be pretty cool too! > If anyone wants to digitize along the way and post a link better yet! :) > > Cheers, > Rainer S. (80steck0 > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: Pro Chrome traveling tape > Date: Fri, 21 May 2021 16:41:37 -0400 > From: Daniel Botelho > To: Joy-Ell & Rainer > > > That is pretty straightforward. :) > > Not sure if my Dragon is up to snuff, but I guess we will see. My tascam 122MKII is a great recording deck as well as my pioneer CT-A9X, but may as well keep it in the nak family. 😎 > > Great stuff. I'll try the 70 vs 120us, as I've heard many great things from using it. > > Will probably do a vinyl drop. Maybe 2 . 😁 >   From naktalk at lists.naks.com Sun May 23 12:16:44 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Rob Citroni via Naktalk) Date: Sun, 23 May 2021 20:16:44 +1000 Subject: [naktalk] Regular frequent dropouts with ZX-9 Message-ID: Hi, the ZX-9 I've had for a while has started to demonstrate dropouts on playback. Everything otherwise seems to be working well. I believe this could be due to the capstan belt that needs replacing? If so, where to source one? 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Bicarb is a CA glue accelerant and it all dries into a super-hard lump, which can then be filed and drilled. I cut away behind the missing tooth, and drilled a hole onto the undamaged area above, to give more purchase into the plastic generally. Time will tell if it can stand the strain, especially as the teeth are now narrower due to my needle fill being a bit wider than the bottom of the groove. Anyway, superglue and bicarb seems to have done the trick for now, so I thought it might be useful info for others on Naktalk. David -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Sun May 23 16:42:38 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Joy-Ell & Rainer via Naktalk) Date: Sun, 23 May 2021 10:42:38 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] Regular frequent dropouts with ZX-9 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1621780958.779x440reoow04wg@webmail.sasktel.net> Hi Rob, have you had a good look at and cleaned the pinch rollers and heads. I think the capstan belt problem is more of a fading out thing.  Does it have the problem with different tapes? Recording? more so at the beginning of the tape?    Cheers, Rainer S. On Sun, 23 May 2021 20:16:44 +1000, Rob Citroni via Naktalk wrote:   Hi, the ZX-9 I've had for a while has started to demonstrate dropouts on playback. Everything otherwise seems to be working well. I believe this could be due to the capstan belt that needs replacing? If so, where to source one? (Please don't mention MARRS...) Tips and recommendations appreciated! Rob ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Sun May 23 18:39:38 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Les Morgan via Naktalk) Date: Sun, 23 May 2021 12:39:38 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] 505 Cassette Holder Repair In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Keep us posted, either way it goes! Thanks! Pax Domini Sit Semper Vobiscum Et Illegitimi Non Carborundum Les Morgan > On May 23, 2021, at 10:26 AM, David Edwards via Naktalk wrote: > >  > Hi All, > > A few months ago I asked for ideas about repairing a 505 cassette holder which had a broken tooth on the spindle and hence didn't go round. > > I thought it might be useful to give an update. > > Epoxy putty was suggested and I gave that a try but it couldn't take the side pressure and broke (or it just didn't get it to stick to the plastic well enough - the jury is out on that). > > I eventually tried superglue and bicarbonate of soda, the star of many YouTube videos, which is where I got the idea. > > Bicarb is a CA glue accelerant and it all dries into a super-hard lump, which can then be filed and drilled. > > I cut away behind the missing tooth, and drilled a hole onto the undamaged area above, to give more purchase into the plastic generally. > > Time will tell if it can stand the strain, especially as the teeth are now narrower due to my needle fill being a bit wider than the bottom of the groove. > > Anyway, superglue and bicarb seems to have done the trick for now, so I thought it might be useful info for others on Naktalk. > > David > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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All I had to do was find a drill small enough to make two new holes for screwing it back in reverse so it would still move where it was supposed to. For a mechanism that require a complete unbroken sequence of working teeth around the circumference of the part that method will not work. The hard part back then (early 90s) was to create a replacement part out of metal as it turned out I had no tools capable of working on such a small piece of metal -Mikkel Fra: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" Til: "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" Sendt: søndag, 23. maj 2021 14:00:28 Emne: [naktalk] 505 Cassette Holder Repair Hi All, A few months ago I asked for ideas about repairing a 505 cassette holder which had a broken tooth on the spindle and hence didn't go round. I thought it might be useful to give an update. Epoxy putty was suggested and I gave that a try but it couldn't take the side pressure and broke (or it just didn't get it to stick to the plastic well enough - the jury is out on that). I eventually tried superglue and bicarbonate of soda, the star of many YouTube videos, which is where I got the idea. Bicarb is a CA glue accelerant and it all dries into a super-hard lump, which can then be filed and drilled. I cut away behind the missing tooth, and drilled a hole onto the undamaged area above, to give more purchase into the plastic generally. Time will tell if it can stand the strain, especially as the teeth are now narrower due to my needle fill being a bit wider than the bottom of the groove. Anyway, superglue and bicarb seems to have done the trick for now, so I thought it might be useful info for others on Naktalk. David ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Sun May 23 16:00:01 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Mark Rogers via Naktalk) Date: Sun, 23 May 2021 08:00:01 -0600 Subject: [naktalk] Regular frequent dropouts with ZX-9 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Sorry, but ambecol has miserable C/S and charge $30 for $10 worth of belts and who knows where they come from. Try Russell Industries, they sell the PRB Line of rubber products but they don't exactly have a state-of-the-art web site. They don't have these "kits," so you will need to give them your own part numbers. Here's a good reference. http://russellind.com/client/download/PRB_Belt_XRef.pdf Looks like they have the following belts for the ZX-9 FRW8.8 SCQ4.8 SCY9.0 But remember, after 30 year it's always more than "just needs belts." Before I open up any deck I try to have the Pinch Roller and any idlers in hand, and be prepared for a thorough clean & re-lube. Good luck! Mark Rogers On Sun, May 23, 2021 at 5:24 AM john kojic via Naktalk < naktalk at lists.naks.com> wrote: > hi i used these guys for nak 550 plays nice now- > https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/m.html?item=114623786957&_ssn=amecbol&_osacat=0&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_odkw=NAKAMICHI&_from=R40&_trksid=m570.l1313&_nkw=NAKAMICHI+zx-9&_sacat=0 > > > Items for sale by amecbol | eBay > > Shop eBay for great deals from amecbol! > www.ebay.co.uk > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Naktalk on behalf of Rob Citroni > via Naktalk > *Sent:* 23 May 2021 10:16 > *To:* naktalk at lists.naks.com > *Subject:* [naktalk] Regular frequent dropouts with ZX-9 > > Hi, the ZX-9 I've had for a while has started to demonstrate dropouts on > playback. Everything otherwise seems to be working well. I believe this > could be due to the capstan belt that needs replacing? If so, where to > source one? 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Are you sure that you don't have hardened grease issues ?       Cheers, Rainer On Mon, 24 May 2021 07:29:03 +1000, Rob Citroni wrote:   Hi Rainer, thanks for the reply. I should have provided more info. You are right, it's mainly at the start of the cassette and it seems to occur mostly during recording. I verified last night that playback of a tape recorded on another deck did not suffer dropouts. Recording head? I did clean all with a q-tip and alcohol already. I'll try again. Recording head height? Thanks for your help!   On Mon, 24 May 2021, 12:42 am Joy-Ell & Rainer, wrote: Hi Rob, have you had a good look at and cleaned the pinch rollers and heads. I think the capstan belt problem is more of a fading out thing.  Does it have the problem with different tapes? Recording? more so at the beginning of the tape?    Cheers, Rainer S. On Sun, 23 May 2021 20:16:44 +1000, Rob Citroni via Naktalk wrote:   Hi, the ZX-9 I've had for a while has started to demonstrate dropouts on playback. Everything otherwise seems to be working well. I believe this could be due to the capstan belt that needs replacing? If so, where to source one? (Please don't mention MARRS...) Tips and recommendations appreciated! Rob ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Mon May 24 10:53:22 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Vesselin Uzunov via Naktalk) Date: Mon, 24 May 2021 04:53:22 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] 505 Cassette Holder Repair In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi David, That is very good result. The CyanAcrilyc glues were created in ‘70 to be used medicine as surgical glues. Their hardener supposed to be the water. Later on the superglue based on CA became very popular in DIY community........I am very glad that it works for you now. Keep us informed about future development. Vesselin Sent from my iPad > On May 23, 2021, at 8:00 AM, David Edwards via Naktalk wrote: > > Hi All, > > A few months ago I asked for ideas about repairing a 505 cassette holder which had a broken tooth on the spindle and hence didn't go round. > > I thought it might be useful to give an update. > > Epoxy putty was suggested and I gave that a try but it couldn't take the side pressure and broke (or it just didn't get it to stick to the plastic well enough - the jury is out on that). > > I eventually tried superglue and bicarbonate of soda, the star of many YouTube videos, which is where I got the idea. > > Bicarb is a CA glue accelerant and it all dries into a super-hard lump, which can then be filed and drilled. > > I cut away behind the missing tooth, and drilled a hole onto the undamaged area above, to give more purchase into the plastic generally. > > Time will tell if it can stand the strain, especially as the teeth are now narrower due to my needle fill being a bit wider than the bottom of the groove. > > Anyway, superglue and bicarb seems to have done the trick for now, so I thought it might be useful info for others on Naktalk. > > David > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Mon May 24 13:37:47 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Perry.nak via Naktalk) Date: Mon, 24 May 2021 07:37:47 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] Correct Capstan belt ZX-9/CR-7 and others Message-ID: <77BA33A8-2EB2-4126-A83A-BC4779220A59@comcast.net> On the last 5 ZX-9’s I have serviced, as well as the last 5 or so CR-7/CR-4/NAD6300 l have had quite good results with the Russel Industries FRSP8.97. The tape deck techs & serious DIYers on Tapeheads.net have been trying and testing them for a few months now, and results vary on some belts and are quite good on others. The FRSP line of belts are mainly Nakamichi specific. They have a thin cross section that Naks usually require between .018 & .016 depending on the belt. No results are guaranteed but the belts are inexpensive enough that buying a few and trying them out is feasible. The FRSP8.97 has been the consistency winner on the decks it is applicable to. Where a NOS Nakamichi sourced belt will give a consistent 0.02% W&F, the 8.97 has given me anywhere between 0.025 & .035%. As NOS Nak belts are rare as hens teeth, these are excellent results. Please note that unlike a Nak belt which is marked for side & direction, the Russell belts are not marked at all. I have indeed found that flipping the belt (easily done while still on the transport on a ZX-9, but not on a Sankyo based transport) and measuring W&F, ALWAYS reveals a better side. Anywhere from .01 to .04% better, in my experience. If you don’t have a way of measuring W&F, often one side will be slightly faster than the other, and that is typically (but not always) the better side. Commonly the FRSP9.6 has been used on the ZX-7, LX-5, 580 & 680 series decks with somewhat mixed results. I have had anywhere from excellent to acceptable results on those decks, ranging from .04 to .07% W& F. Others have had poor results on the same models from .09 to .12%. On a 680 currently on my bench it has been doing .045% on one side and about .085% on the other. No one has had good results with the FRSP9.6 belt on an RX-505/303 so far, with no good explanation. I have tried it on 4 different decks so far and all have been rather poor, between .08% and .11%. The belts from webspareparts have worked well on the RX-505, but not as well for me on the other decks, inexplicably. They also make an FRSP9.2, which theoretically should perform better on some decks, like the 580 & 680zx, but so far have not worked out as well, never getting even close in performance to a different belt. The FRSP6.5 has been a consistent good performer on the Single Capstan Sankyo based decks like the LX-202, CR-1/2, BX-1/2/100/150 etc. I will also note that Dynamic Technology has promised a new classic capstan belt in the next 2 weeks or so, that I will also be testing. Their current offering (available on ebay or direct) did not perform well for me (or most others) on the intended decks but I found it performed extremely well on the Sankyo transports such as the CR-3, Cassette Deck 1/1.5, DR-1/2 and similar. In case it is not common knowledge, MARRS belts are dead, finito, no longer to be considered purchasing from. Do not waste your time. Sent from my iPhone From naktalk at lists.naks.com Mon May 24 15:05:29 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (john kojic via Naktalk) Date: Mon, 24 May 2021 13:05:29 +0000 Subject: [naktalk] Correct Capstan belt ZX-9/CR-7 and others In-Reply-To: <77BA33A8-2EB2-4126-A83A-BC4779220A59@comcast.net> References: <77BA33A8-2EB2-4126-A83A-BC4779220A59@comcast.net> Message-ID: hi- are you saying all nak original belts should have an arrow on them? ________________________________ From: Naktalk on behalf of Perry.nak via Naktalk Sent: 24 May 2021 11:37 To: naktalk at lists.naks.com Subject: [naktalk] Correct Capstan belt ZX-9/CR-7 and others On the last 5 ZX-9’s I have serviced, as well as the last 5 or so CR-7/CR-4/NAD6300 l have had quite good results with the Russel Industries FRSP8.97. The tape deck techs & serious DIYers on Tapeheads.net have been trying and testing them for a few months now, and results vary on some belts and are quite good on others. The FRSP line of belts are mainly Nakamichi specific. They have a thin cross section that Naks usually require between .018 & .016 depending on the belt. No results are guaranteed but the belts are inexpensive enough that buying a few and trying them out is feasible. The FRSP8.97 has been the consistency winner on the decks it is applicable to. Where a NOS Nakamichi sourced belt will give a consistent 0.02% W&F, the 8.97 has given me anywhere between 0.025 & .035%. As NOS Nak belts are rare as hens teeth, these are excellent results. Please note that unlike a Nak belt which is marked for side & direction, the Russell belts are not marked at all. I have indeed found that flipping the belt (easily done while still on the transport on a ZX-9, but not on a Sankyo based transport) and measuring W&F, ALWAYS reveals a better side. Anywhere from .01 to .04% better, in my experience. If you don’t have a way of measuring W&F, often one side will be slightly faster than the other, and that is typically (but not always) the better side. Commonly the FRSP9.6 has been used on the ZX-7, LX-5, 580 & 680 series decks with somewhat mixed results. I have had anywhere from excellent to acceptable results on those decks, ranging from .04 to .07% W& F. Others have had poor results on the same models from .09 to .12%. On a 680 currently on my bench it has been doing .045% on one side and about .085% on the other. No one has had good results with the FRSP9.6 belt on an RX-505/303 so far, with no good explanation. I have tried it on 4 different decks so far and all have been rather poor, between .08% and .11%. The belts from webspareparts have worked well on the RX-505, but not as well for me on the other decks, inexplicably. They also make an FRSP9.2, which theoretically should perform better on some decks, like the 580 & 680zx, but so far have not worked out as well, never getting even close in performance to a different belt. The FRSP6.5 has been a consistent good performer on the Single Capstan Sankyo based decks like the LX-202, CR-1/2, BX-1/2/100/150 etc. I will also note that Dynamic Technology has promised a new classic capstan belt in the next 2 weeks or so, that I will also be testing. Their current offering (available on ebay or direct) did not perform well for me (or most others) on the intended decks but I found it performed extremely well on the Sankyo transports such as the CR-3, Cassette Deck 1/1.5, DR-1/2 and similar. In case it is not common knowledge, MARRS belts are dead, finito, no longer to be considered purchasing from. Do not waste your time. Sent from my iPhone ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Mon May 24 15:07:23 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Terry Barton via Naktalk) Date: Mon, 24 May 2021 13:07:23 +0000 Subject: [naktalk] 1000ZXL fluorescent display repair, UK Message-ID: Hi all, I have a 1000 ZXL which is functioning perfectly apart from one aspect, the digital fluorescent display. My engineer is an analogue expert so has been unable to rectify the problem. Essentially the display is working but not properly, I would describe it as having random bursts of inaccurate readings. I assume the circuit board that controls it is no longer available. Would anyone be able to recommend a digital expert in the UK who might be able to take a look at it for me please? Thanks in advance. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Mon May 24 15:25:52 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Terry Finn via Naktalk) Date: Mon, 24 May 2021 14:25:52 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] Correct Capstan belt ZX-9/CR-7 and others In-Reply-To: <77BA33A8-2EB2-4126-A83A-BC4779220A59@comcast.net> References: <77BA33A8-2EB2-4126-A83A-BC4779220A59@comcast.net> Message-ID: <008101d750a0$51fc07e0$f5f417a0$@btinternet.com> Thank you Perry, very Useful... T -----Original Message----- From: Naktalk [mailto:naktalk-bounces at lists.naks.com] On Behalf Of Perry.nak via Naktalk Sent: 24 May 2021 12:38 To: naktalk at lists.naks.com Subject: [naktalk] Correct Capstan belt ZX-9/CR-7 and others On the last 5 ZX-9’s I have serviced, as well as the last 5 or so CR-7/CR-4/NAD6300 l have had quite good results with the Russel Industries FRSP8.97. The tape deck techs & serious DIYers on Tapeheads.net have been trying and testing them for a few months now, and results vary on some belts and are quite good on others. The FRSP line of belts are mainly Nakamichi specific. They have a thin cross section that Naks usually require between .018 & .016 depending on the belt. No results are guaranteed but the belts are inexpensive enough that buying a few and trying them out is feasible. The FRSP8.97 has been the consistency winner on the decks it is applicable to. Where a NOS Nakamichi sourced belt will give a consistent 0.02% W&F, the 8.97 has given me anywhere between 0.025 & .035%. As NOS Nak belts are rare as hens teeth, these are excellent results. Please note that unlike a Nak belt which is marked for side & direction, the Russell belts are not marked at all. I have indeed found that flipping the belt (easily done while still on the transport on a ZX-9, but not on a Sankyo based transport) and measuring W&F, ALWAYS reveals a better side. Anywhere from .01 to .04% better, in my experience. If you don’t have a way of measuring W&F, often one side will be slightly faster than the other, and that is typically (but not always) the better side. Commonly the FRSP9.6 has been used on the ZX-7, LX-5, 580 & 680 series decks with somewhat mixed results. I have had anywhere from excellent to acceptable results on those decks, ranging from .04 to .07% W& F. Others have had poor results on the same models from .09 to .12%. On a 680 currently on my bench it has been doing .045% on one side and about .085% on the other. No one has had good results with the FRSP9.6 belt on an RX-505/303 so far, with no good explanation. I have tried it on 4 different decks so far and all have been rather poor, between .08% and .11%. The belts from webspareparts have worked well on the RX-505, but not as well for me on the other decks, inexplicably. They also make an FRSP9.2, which theoretically should perform better on some decks, like the 580 & 680zx, but so far have not worked out as well, never getting even close in performance to a different belt. The FRSP6.5 has been a consistent good performer on the Single Capstan Sankyo based decks like the LX-202, CR-1/2, BX-1/2/100/150 etc. I will also note that Dynamic Technology has promised a new classic capstan belt in the next 2 weeks or so, that I will also be testing. Their current offering (available on ebay or direct) did not perform well for me (or most others) on the intended decks but I found it performed extremely well on the Sankyo transports such as the CR-3, Cassette Deck 1/1.5, DR-1/2 and similar. In case it is not common knowledge, MARRS belts are dead, finito, no longer to be considered purchasing from. Do not waste your time. Sent from my iPhone ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= From naktalk at lists.naks.com Mon May 24 15:48:01 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Marcelo Mansour particular via Naktalk) Date: Mon, 24 May 2021 10:48:01 -0300 Subject: [naktalk] RES: Correct Capstan belt ZX-9/CR-7 and others In-Reply-To: <008101d750a0$51fc07e0$f5f417a0$@btinternet.com> References: <77BA33A8-2EB2-4126-A83A-BC4779220A59@comcast.net> <008101d750a0$51fc07e0$f5f417a0$@btinternet.com> Message-ID: Thank you so much!! I had just asked this question about Russell's belts and thanks again. -----Mensagem original----- De: Naktalk Em nome de Terry Finn via Naktalk Enviada em: segunda-feira, 24 de maio de 2021 10:26 Para: 'Perry.nak' ; 'Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks' Assunto: Re: [naktalk] Correct Capstan belt ZX-9/CR-7 and others Thank you Perry, very Useful... T -----Original Message----- From: Naktalk [mailto:naktalk-bounces at lists.naks.com] On Behalf Of Perry.nak via Naktalk Sent: 24 May 2021 12:38 To: naktalk at lists.naks.com Subject: [naktalk] Correct Capstan belt ZX-9/CR-7 and others On the last 5 ZX-9’s I have serviced, as well as the last 5 or so CR-7/CR-4/NAD6300 l have had quite good results with the Russel Industries FRSP8.97. The tape deck techs & serious DIYers on Tapeheads.net have been trying and testing them for a few months now, and results vary on some belts and are quite good on others. The FRSP line of belts are mainly Nakamichi specific. They have a thin cross section that Naks usually require between .018 & .016 depending on the belt. No results are guaranteed but the belts are inexpensive enough that buying a few and trying them out is feasible. The FRSP8.97 has been the consistency winner on the decks it is applicable to. Where a NOS Nakamichi sourced belt will give a consistent 0.02% W&F, the 8.97 has given me anywhere between 0.025 & .035%. As NOS Nak belts are rare as hens teeth, these are excellent results. Please note that unlike a Nak belt which is marked for side & direction, the Russell belts are not marked at all. I have indeed found that flipping the belt (easily done while still on the transport on a ZX-9, but not on a Sankyo based transport) and measuring W&F, ALWAYS reveals a better side. Anywhere from .01 to .04% better, in my experience. If you don’t have a way of measuring W&F, often one side will be slightly faster than the other, and that is typically (but not always) the better side. Commonly the FRSP9.6 has been used on the ZX-7, LX-5, 580 & 680 series decks with somewhat mixed results. I have had anywhere from excellent to acceptable results on those decks, ranging from .04 to .07% W& F. Others have had poor results on the same models from .09 to .12%. On a 680 currently on my bench it has been doing .045% on one side and about .085% on the other. No one has had good results with the FRSP9.6 belt on an RX-505/303 so far, with no good explanation. I have tried it on 4 different decks so far and all have been rather poor, between .08% and .11%. The belts from webspareparts have worked well on the RX-505, but not as well for me on the other decks, inexplicably. They also make an FRSP9.2, which theoretically should perform better on some decks, like the 580 & 680zx, but so far have not worked out as well, never getting even close in performance to a different belt. The FRSP6.5 has been a consistent good performer on the Single Capstan Sankyo based decks like the LX-202, CR-1/2, BX-1/2/100/150 etc. I will also note that Dynamic Technology has promised a new classic capstan belt in the next 2 weeks or so, that I will also be testing. Their current offering (available on ebay or direct) did not perform well for me (or most others) on the intended decks but I found it performed extremely well on the Sankyo transports such as the CR-3, Cassette Deck 1/1.5, DR-1/2 and similar. In case it is not common knowledge, MARRS belts are dead, finito, no longer to be considered purchasing from. Do not waste your time. Sent from my iPhone ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= From naktalk at lists.naks.com Mon May 24 17:29:59 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (N.van.wijnen@ziggo.nl via Naktalk) Date: Mon, 24 May 2021 17:29:59 +0200 Subject: [naktalk] 1000ZXL fluorescent display repair, UK In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <00C79EA8-11D4-4483-A296-282C401E074E@ziggo.nl> Hi Terry, Mostly you can resolve this problem by replacing defective op amps on the detector pcb. be very careful with mounting the connector from the meter to the board because you can be electrostatic charged and because of that you destroy the op amps. Best regards Norman Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad > Op 24 mei 2021 om 15:16 heeft Terry Barton via Naktalk het volgende geschreven: > >  > Hi all, > > I have a 1000 ZXL which is functioning perfectly apart from one aspect, the digital fluorescent display. My engineer is an analogue expert so has been unable to rectify the problem. Essentially the display is working but not properly, I would describe it as having random bursts of inaccurate readings. > > I assume the circuit board that controls it is no longer available. Would anyone be able to recommend a digital expert in the UK who might be able to take a look at it for me please? > > Thanks in advance. > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Mon May 24 17:50:41 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Garner, Scott H via Naktalk) Date: Mon, 24 May 2021 15:50:41 +0000 Subject: [naktalk] 1000ZXL fluorescent display repair, UK In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Replace C601 560pf and C604 4700pf caps on the FL indicator PCB A board. I've seen this problem a bunch of times. The only problem is it's a pain to get the FL assy out, the front faceplate has to be removed. From: Naktalk On Behalf Of Terry Barton via Naktalk Sent: Monday, May 24, 2021 7:07 AM To: naktalk at lists.naks.com Subject: EXTERNAL: [naktalk] 1000ZXL fluorescent display repair, UK Hi all, I have a 1000 ZXL which is functioning perfectly apart from one aspect, the digital fluorescent display. My engineer is an analogue expert so has been unable to rectify the problem. Essentially the display is working but not properly, I would describe it as having random bursts of inaccurate readings. I assume the circuit board that controls it is no longer available. Would anyone be able to recommend a digital expert in the UK who might be able to take a look at it for me please? Thanks in advance. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Mon May 24 17:58:46 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Garner, Scott H via Naktalk) Date: Mon, 24 May 2021 15:58:46 +0000 Subject: [naktalk] 1000ZXL fluorescent display repair, UK In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <746a9637d5d742d9a95515f925234cf9@lmco.com> Do not replace the opamps first. Your problem is in the two oscillator circuits on the FL indicator PCB A board. The cap that is used in those two circuits is the orange PP type, they go bad all the time. I have fixed a bunch of 1000zxl's over the years. From: Naktalk On Behalf Of Terry Barton via Naktalk Sent: Monday, May 24, 2021 7:07 AM To: naktalk at lists.naks.com Subject: EXTERNAL: [naktalk] 1000ZXL fluorescent display repair, UK Hi all, I have a 1000 ZXL which is functioning perfectly apart from one aspect, the digital fluorescent display. My engineer is an analogue expert so has been unable to rectify the problem. Essentially the display is working but not properly, I would describe it as having random bursts of inaccurate readings. I assume the circuit board that controls it is no longer available. Would anyone be able to recommend a digital expert in the UK who might be able to take a look at it for me please? Thanks in advance. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Mon May 24 18:08:31 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Rajiv Pandey via Naktalk) Date: Mon, 24 May 2021 11:08:31 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] RES: Correct Capstan belt ZX-9/CR-7 and others In-Reply-To: References: <77BA33A8-2EB2-4126-A83A-BC4779220A59@comcast.net> <008101d750a0$51fc07e0$f5f417a0$@btinternet.com> Message-ID: Hi Perry Thank you for those pointers. Since the DR line was the last of the line and is very common, what belts would you recommend for the DR1, 2 and 3 or the Cassette Deck 1, 1.5 and 2...and furthermore, can they all accept the same belts or the different models have their own specific requirements that changes things Thanks Rajiv On Mon, May 24, 2021 at 9:05 AM Marcelo Mansour particular via Naktalk < naktalk at lists.naks.com> wrote: > Thank you so much!! > > I had just asked this question about Russell's belts and thanks again. > > -----Mensagem original----- > De: Naktalk Em nome de Terry Finn via > Naktalk > Enviada em: segunda-feira, 24 de maio de 2021 10:26 > Para: 'Perry.nak' ; 'Talk about Nakamichi Cassette > Decks' > Assunto: Re: [naktalk] Correct Capstan belt ZX-9/CR-7 and others > > Thank you Perry, very Useful... > > T > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Naktalk [mailto:naktalk-bounces at lists.naks.com] On Behalf Of > Perry.nak via Naktalk > Sent: 24 May 2021 12:38 > To: naktalk at lists.naks.com > Subject: [naktalk] Correct Capstan belt ZX-9/CR-7 and others > > On the last 5 ZX-9’s I have serviced, as well as the last 5 or so > CR-7/CR-4/NAD6300 l have had quite good results with the Russel Industries > FRSP8.97. The tape deck techs & serious DIYers on Tapeheads.net have been > trying and testing them for a few months now, and results vary on some > belts and are quite good on others. The FRSP line of belts are mainly > Nakamichi specific. They have a thin cross section that Naks usually > require between .018 & .016 depending on the belt. No results are > guaranteed but the belts are inexpensive enough that buying a few and > trying them out is feasible. The FRSP8.97 has been the consistency winner > on the decks it is applicable to. Where a NOS Nakamichi sourced belt will > give a consistent 0.02% W&F, the 8.97 has given me anywhere between 0.025 & > .035%. As NOS Nak belts are rare as hens teeth, these are excellent results. > > Please note that unlike a Nak belt which is marked for side & direction, > the Russell belts are not marked at all. I have indeed found that flipping > the belt (easily done while still on the transport on a ZX-9, but not on a > Sankyo based transport) and measuring W&F, ALWAYS reveals a better side. > Anywhere from .01 to .04% better, in my experience. If you don’t have a > way of measuring W&F, often one side will be slightly faster than the > other, and that is typically (but not always) the better side. > > Commonly the FRSP9.6 has been used on the ZX-7, LX-5, 580 & 680 series > decks with somewhat mixed results. I have had anywhere from excellent to > acceptable results on those decks, ranging from .04 to .07% W& F. Others > have had poor results on the same models from .09 to .12%. On a 680 > currently on my bench it has been doing .045% on one side and about .085% > on the other. > > No one has had good results with the FRSP9.6 belt on an RX-505/303 so far, > with no good explanation. I have tried it on 4 different decks so far and > all have been rather poor, between .08% and .11%. The belts from > webspareparts have worked well on the RX-505, but not as well for me on the > other decks, inexplicably. > > They also make an FRSP9.2, which theoretically should perform better on > some decks, like the 580 & 680zx, but so far have not worked out as well, > never getting even close in performance to a different belt. > > The FRSP6.5 has been a consistent good performer on the Single Capstan > Sankyo based decks like the LX-202, CR-1/2, BX-1/2/100/150 etc. > > I will also note that Dynamic Technology has promised a new classic > capstan belt in the next 2 weeks or so, that I will also be testing. Their > current offering (available on ebay or direct) did not perform well for me > (or most others) on the intended decks but I found it performed extremely > well on the Sankyo transports such as the CR-3, Cassette Deck 1/1.5, DR-1/2 > and similar. > > In case it is not common knowledge, MARRS belts are dead, finito, no > longer to be considered purchasing from. 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URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Mon May 24 18:46:11 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (David Edwards via Naktalk) Date: Mon, 24 May 2021 17:46:11 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] 505 Repair Message-ID: <9f023598-70da-c7c6-1782-23937d0b550e@talktalk.net> Thanks for the various replies. I imagine this part might be a problem in the future for 505 owners, as the plastic becomes more brittle and the teeth weaken over time. It might be a good part for someone with the skills and knowledge to make in small batches. I would certainly have paid good money for a replacement if one had been available. I don't know how hard the plastic is with computer printed parts, having no knowledge of it, but it might be a good item to have the capacity to make in some way, because I can see there being a need for them in the future. Although admittedly, having to use the 505 as a normal unidirectional deck is no real hardship, it still sounds great. Anyway, I'll let the forum know if it's still functioning by the end of the year. Thanks for the replies. David -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Mon May 24 19:12:35 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Terry Barton via Naktalk) Date: Mon, 24 May 2021 17:12:35 +0000 Subject: [naktalk] 1000ZXL fluorescent display repair, UK In-Reply-To: <746a9637d5d742d9a95515f925234cf9@lmco.com> References: , <746a9637d5d742d9a95515f925234cf9@lmco.com> Message-ID: Cheers, Scott, much appreciated. Is there any preferred replacement capacitor make, or doesn't it really matter as long as it's functioning correctly? ________________________________ From: Garner, Scott H Sent: Monday, May 24, 2021 4:58:46 PM To: Terry Barton ; Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks Subject: RE: 1000ZXL fluorescent display repair, UK Do not replace the opamps first. Your problem is in the two oscillator circuits on the FL indicator PCB A board. The cap that is used in those two circuits is the orange PP type, they go bad all the time. I have fixed a bunch of 1000zxl’s over the years. From: Naktalk On Behalf Of Terry Barton via Naktalk Sent: Monday, May 24, 2021 7:07 AM To: naktalk at lists.naks.com Subject: EXTERNAL: [naktalk] 1000ZXL fluorescent display repair, UK Hi all, I have a 1000 ZXL which is functioning perfectly apart from one aspect, the digital fluorescent display. My engineer is an analogue expert so has been unable to rectify the problem. Essentially the display is working but not properly, I would describe it as having random bursts of inaccurate readings. I assume the circuit board that controls it is no longer available. Would anyone be able to recommend a digital expert in the UK who might be able to take a look at it for me please? Thanks in advance. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Tue May 25 05:12:24 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Tom Brucker via Naktalk) Date: Mon, 24 May 2021 22:12:24 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] 1000ZXL fluorescent display repair, UK In-Reply-To: References: <746a9637d5d742d9a95515f925234cf9@lmco.com> Message-ID: Any film capacitor will be fine. Many folks use Wima 50 volt capacitors. On Mon, May 24, 2021, 12:17 PM Terry Barton via Naktalk < naktalk at lists.naks.com> wrote: > Cheers, Scott, much appreciated. Is there any preferred replacement > capacitor make, or doesn't it really matter as long as it's functioning > correctly? > ------------------------------ > *From:* Garner, Scott H > *Sent:* Monday, May 24, 2021 4:58:46 PM > *To:* Terry Barton ; Talk about Nakamichi > Cassette Decks > *Subject:* RE: 1000ZXL fluorescent display repair, UK > > > Do not replace the opamps first. Your problem is in the two oscillator > circuits on the FL indicator PCB A board. The cap that is used in those two > circuits is the orange PP type, they go bad all the time. I have fixed a > bunch of 1000zxl’s over the years. > > > > > > *From:* Naktalk *On Behalf Of *Terry > Barton via Naktalk > *Sent:* Monday, May 24, 2021 7:07 AM > *To:* naktalk at lists.naks.com > *Subject:* EXTERNAL: [naktalk] 1000ZXL fluorescent display repair, UK > > > > Hi all, > > > > I have a 1000 <+441000> ZXL which is functioning perfectly apart from one > aspect, the digital fluorescent display. My engineer is an analogue expert > so has been unable to rectify the problem. Essentially the display is > working but not properly, I would describe it as having random bursts of > inaccurate readings. > > > > I assume the circuit board that controls it is no longer available. Would > anyone be able to recommend a digital expert in the UK who might be able to > take a look at it for me please? > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Tue May 25 05:16:15 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Tom Brucker via Naktalk) Date: Mon, 24 May 2021 22:16:15 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Regular frequent dropouts with ZX-9 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Experiment by removing the pad lifter. If playback is good, check each pinch roller for debris which might cause skew. Also confirm that flywheel thrust bearings are properly adjusted. On Sun, May 23, 2021, 2:47 PM Mark Rogers via Naktalk < naktalk at lists.naks.com> wrote: > Sorry, but ambecol has miserable C/S and charge $30 for $10 worth of belts > and who knows where they come from. Try Russell Industries, they sell > the PRB Line of rubber products but they don't exactly have a > state-of-the-art web site. They don't have these "kits," so you will need > to give them your own part numbers. Here's a good reference. > > http://russellind.com/client/download/PRB_Belt_XRef.pdf > > Looks like they have the following belts for the ZX-9 > > FRW8.8 > SCQ4.8 > SCY9.0 > > But remember, after 30 year it's always more than "just needs belts." > Before I open up any deck I try to have the Pinch Roller and any idlers in > hand, and be prepared for a thorough clean & re-lube. Good luck! > > Mark Rogers > > On Sun, May 23, 2021 at 5:24 AM john kojic via Naktalk < > naktalk at lists.naks.com> wrote: > >> hi i used these guys for nak 550 plays nice now- >> https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/m.html?item=114623786957&_ssn=amecbol&_osacat=0&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_odkw=NAKAMICHI&_from=R40&_trksid=m570.l1313&_nkw=NAKAMICHI+zx-9&_sacat=0 >> >> >> Items for sale by amecbol | eBay >> >> Shop eBay for great deals from amecbol! >> www.ebay.co.uk >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From:* Naktalk on behalf of Rob >> Citroni via Naktalk >> *Sent:* 23 May 2021 10:16 >> *To:* naktalk at lists.naks.com >> *Subject:* [naktalk] Regular frequent dropouts with ZX-9 >> >> Hi, the ZX-9 I've had for a while has started to demonstrate dropouts on >> playback. Everything otherwise seems to be working well. I believe this >> could be due to the capstan belt that needs replacing? If so, where to >> source one? 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The caps should be replaced anyway as part of due diligence so swap them out first and if that still doesn't help, then look at the op-amps.  BG On Tuesday, May 25, 2021, 01:54:52 AM GMT+10, Garner, Scott H via Naktalk wrote: Replace C601 560pf and C604 4700pf caps on the FL indicator PCB A board. I’ve seen this problem a bunch of times. The only problem is it’s a pain to get the FL assy out, the front faceplate has to be removed.     From: Naktalk On Behalf OfTerry Barton via Naktalk Sent: Monday, May 24, 2021 7:07 AM To: naktalk at lists.naks.com Subject: EXTERNAL: [naktalk] 1000ZXL fluorescent display repair, UK   Hi all,   I have a 1000 ZXL which is functioning perfectly apart from one aspect, the digital fluorescent display. My engineer is an analogue expert so has been unable to rectify the problem. Essentially the display is working but not properly, I would describe it as having random bursts of inaccurate readings.   I assume the circuit board that controls it is no longer available. Would anyone be able to recommend a digital expert in the UK who might be able to take a look at it for me please?   Thanks in advance.   ========---------------------------------------------------------=========           Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com ========---------------------------------------------------------=========                         Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Thu May 27 22:22:54 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Vesselin Uzunov via Naktalk) Date: Thu, 27 May 2021 16:22:54 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] Lm6402a-052 In-Reply-To: <1622124515.24ahshd0o48gowc0@webmail.sasktel.net> References: <1622120313.oztwd4i6684cskw4@webmail.sasktel.net> <1622124515.24ahshd0o48gowc0@webmail.sasktel.net> Message-ID: Hi everybody, I need the same chip for my Nakamichi zx7. Any idea will be highly appreciated. Vessel in. Sent from my iPad > On May 27, 2021, at 10:08 AM, Joy-Ell & Rainer via Naktalk wrote: > > Just my guess, you said "copy" but I think you would have to get a data sheet for the processor and study the schematics to go further. > > > On Thu, 27 May 2021 15:03:42 +0200, Dionysis Michos wrote: > > Hi, you mean even if I find a chip, it needs to be programmed specifically for the deck or any copy of Lm6402a-052 would be OK? > > >> On Thu, 27 May 2021, 14:58 Joy-Ell & Rainer, wrote: >> I don't think you will find a programmed copy other than from a donor deck. I think it's rare for those to be a problem though, Maybe double check everything else. >> >> Cheers, >> Rainer S. >> >> On Tue, 25 May 2021 23:19:40 +0200, Dionysis Michos via Naktalk wrote: >> >> Hello >> First time for me here >> Is it possible to find a copy of IC-Chip Lm6402a-052 for LX3? 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URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Fri May 28 03:26:08 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Tom Brucker via Naktalk) Date: Thu, 27 May 2021 20:26:08 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Lm6402a-052 In-Reply-To: References: <1622120313.oztwd4i6684cskw4@webmail.sasktel.net> <1622124515.24ahshd0o48gowc0@webmail.sasktel.net> Message-ID: Microprocessor failures in Nakamichi decks are so rare. What measurements and observations do you have? On Thu, May 27, 2021, 3:23 PM Vesselin Uzunov via Naktalk < naktalk at lists.naks.com> wrote: > Hi everybody, > I need the same chip for my Nakamichi zx7. Any idea will be highly > appreciated. > Vessel in. > > Sent from my iPad > > On May 27, 2021, at 10:08 AM, Joy-Ell & Rainer via Naktalk < > naktalk at lists.naks.com> wrote: > > Just my guess, you said "copy" but I think you would have to get a data > sheet for the processor and study the schematics to go further. > > On Thu, 27 May 2021 15:03:42 +0200, Dionysis Michos < > dennis.michos at gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi, you mean even if I find a chip, it needs to be programmed specifically > for the deck or any copy of Lm6402a-052 would be OK? > > > On Thu, 27 May 2021, 14:58 Joy-Ell & Rainer, > wrote: > >> I don't think you will find a programmed copy other than from a donor >> deck. I think it's rare for those to be a problem though, Maybe double >> check everything else. >> >> Cheers, >> Rainer S. >> >> On Tue, 25 May 2021 23:19:40 +0200, Dionysis Michos via Naktalk < >> naktalk at lists.naks.com> wrote: >> >> Hello >> First time for me here >> Is it possible to find a copy of IC-Chip Lm6402a-052 for LX3? 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Any idea will be highly appreciated. > Vessel in. > > Sent from my iPad > >> On May 27, 2021, at 10:08 AM, Joy-Ell & Rainer via Naktalk wrote: >> >> Just my guess, you said "copy" but I think you would have to get a data sheet for the processor and study the schematics to go further. >> >> >> On Thu, 27 May 2021 15:03:42 +0200, Dionysis Michos wrote: >> >> Hi, you mean even if I find a chip, it needs to be programmed specifically for the deck or any copy of Lm6402a-052 would be OK? >> >> >>> On Thu, 27 May 2021, 14:58 Joy-Ell & Rainer, wrote: >>> I don't think you will find a programmed copy other than from a donor deck. I think it's rare for those to be a problem though, Maybe double check everything else. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Rainer S. >>> >>> On Tue, 25 May 2021 23:19:40 +0200, Dionysis Michos via Naktalk wrote: >>> >>> Hello >>> First time for me here >>> Is it possible to find a copy of IC-Chip Lm6402a-052 for LX3? 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URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Fri May 28 03:38:22 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Francis Flynn via Naktalk) Date: Thu, 27 May 2021 20:38:22 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Lm6402a-052 In-Reply-To: References: <1622120313.oztwd4i6684cskw4@webmail.sasktel.net> <1622124515.24ahshd0o48gowc0@webmail.sasktel.net> Message-ID: Be sure it is not just a power supply regulator. That would be a more common failure. On Thu, May 27, 2021 at 8:26 PM Tom Brucker via Naktalk wrote: > > Microprocessor failures in Nakamichi decks are so rare. What measurements and observations do you have? > > On Thu, May 27, 2021, 3:23 PM Vesselin Uzunov via Naktalk wrote: >> >> Hi everybody, >> I need the same chip for my Nakamichi zx7. Any idea will be highly appreciated. >> Vessel in. >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> On May 27, 2021, at 10:08 AM, Joy-Ell & Rainer via Naktalk wrote: >> >> Just my guess, you said "copy" but I think you would have to get a data sheet for the processor and study the schematics to go further. >> >> On Thu, 27 May 2021 15:03:42 +0200, Dionysis Michos wrote: >> >> Hi, you mean even if I find a chip, it needs to be programmed specifically for the deck or any copy of Lm6402a-052 would be OK? >> >> >> On Thu, 27 May 2021, 14:58 Joy-Ell & Rainer, wrote: >>> >>> I don't think you will find a programmed copy other than from a donor deck. I think it's rare for those to be a problem though, Maybe double check everything else. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Rainer S. >>> >>> On Tue, 25 May 2021 23:19:40 +0200, Dionysis Michos via Naktalk wrote: >>> >>> Hello >>> First time for me here >>> Is it possible to find a copy of IC-Chip Lm6402a-052 for LX3? Thanks Dennis >>> ========---------------------------------------------------------========= >>> Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com >>> ========---------------------------------------------------------========= >>> Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist >>> Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >>> ========---------------------------------------------------------========= >> >> ========---------------------------------------------------------========= >> Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com >> ========---------------------------------------------------------========= >> Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist >> Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >> ========---------------------------------------------------------========= >> >> ========---------------------------------------------------------========= >> Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com >> ========---------------------------------------------------------========= >> Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist >> Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >> ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= From naktalk at lists.naks.com Fri May 28 09:24:11 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Dionysis Michos via Naktalk) Date: Fri, 28 May 2021 09:24:11 +0200 Subject: [naktalk] Lm6402a-052 In-Reply-To: <902987F7-1BF4-4D6C-A65B-467BD3A21FA7@free.fr> References: <902987F7-1BF4-4D6C-A65B-467BD3A21FA7@free.fr> Message-ID: Hi Eric Sure I would be glad! I might need other spare parts My technician is not a Nakamichi guru :( I am in Belgium so shipping should not be much Let me know Dennis On Fri, May 28, 2021 at 6:12 AM Eric MONNOT via Naktalk < naktalk at lists.naks.com> wrote: > Hello > I have a LX3 for spare parts with all boards not touched, I may collect > the chip LM6402a-052 from the right board for free, only asking shipping > cost from France... > Tell me and I will check this week end. > Eric Monnot > > Envoyé de mon iPhone > > Le 27 mai 2021 à 22:23, Vesselin Uzunov via Naktalk < > naktalk at lists.naks.com> a écrit : > > Hi everybody, > I need the same chip for my Nakamichi zx7. Any idea will be highly > appreciated. > Vessel in. > > Sent from my iPad > > On May 27, 2021, at 10:08 AM, Joy-Ell & Rainer via Naktalk < > naktalk at lists.naks.com> wrote: > > Just my guess, you said "copy" but I think you would have to get a data > sheet for the processor and study the schematics to go further. > > On Thu, 27 May 2021 15:03:42 +0200, Dionysis Michos < > dennis.michos at gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi, you mean even if I find a chip, it needs to be programmed specifically > for the deck or any copy of Lm6402a-052 would be OK? > > > On Thu, 27 May 2021, 14:58 Joy-Ell & Rainer, > wrote: > >> I don't think you will find a programmed copy other than from a donor >> deck. I think it's rare for those to be a problem though, Maybe double >> check everything else. >> >> Cheers, >> Rainer S. >> >> On Tue, 25 May 2021 23:19:40 +0200, Dionysis Michos via Naktalk < >> naktalk at lists.naks.com> wrote: >> >> Hello >> First time for me here >> Is it possible to find a copy of IC-Chip Lm6402a-052 for LX3? 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URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Mon May 31 19:06:12 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Daniel Botelho via Naktalk) Date: Mon, 31 May 2021 13:06:12 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] Pro Chrome traveling tape In-Reply-To: <1621704664.855vvmai8scs8kcs@webmail.sasktel.net> Message-ID: Tape has arrived. Listening to it now. No disappointments! 😎   Original Message   From: naktalk at lists.naks.com Sent: May 22, 2021 1:31 p.m. To: jeffmringer at yahoo.com; naktalk at lists.naks.com Reply to: joyell.solie at sasktel.net; naktalk at lists.naks.com Subject: [naktalk] Pro Chrome traveling tape Package is on it's way to Daniel! :)  On Ural's suggestion I broke off the side of the case that holds the reels and put that in with the tape. It's well under 2cm with the padded envelope so that should keep the postage low for everyone.  Jeff, I'm a fan of both so no complaints from me ;)   So far we have:  Rainer (me) Daniel Perry Miroslav  Ural Jeff On Sat, 22 May 2021 01:15:57 -0500, Jeff Ringer via Naktalk wrote: I can add a bootleg The Cure, or bootleg R.E.M. if anyone is interested. > On May 21, 2021, at 11:41 PM, Joy-Ell & Rainer via Naktalk wrote: > > > So I tried to send this off today but it didn't fit through the letter mail size slot so would have been $15 instead of $2 so I took it back and repacked without a case but just the tape inside a antistatic bag inside a padded envelope which puts it well under the size limit so hopefully cheaper for other countries as well. > It's a C-90 so lots of room , anyone else want to add some tracks ? > Would be pretty cool if this could get to Hawaii, Austria, Australia, India and as many countries as possible! :) > Daniel, a live track and/or non Nak track would be pretty cool too! > If anyone wants to digitize along the way and post a link better yet! :) > > Cheers, > Rainer S. (80steck0 > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: Pro Chrome traveling tape > Date: Fri, 21 May 2021 16:41:37 -0400 > From: Daniel Botelho > To: Joy-Ell & Rainer > > > That is pretty straightforward. :) > > Not sure if my Dragon is up to snuff, but I guess we will see. My tascam 122MKII is a great recording deck as well as my pioneer CT-A9X, but may as well keep it in the nak family. 😎 > > Great stuff. I'll try the 70 vs 120us, as I've heard many great things from using it. > > Will probably do a vinyl drop. 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No disappointments! 😎 Original Message From: naktalk at lists.naks.com Sent: May 22, 2021 1:31 p.m. To: jeffmringer at yahoo.com; naktalk at lists.naks.com Reply to: joyell.solie at sasktel.net; naktalk at lists.naks.com Subject: [naktalk] Pro Chrome traveling tape Package is on it's way to Daniel! :) On Ural's suggestion I broke off the side of the case that holds the reels and put that in with the tape. It's well under 2cm with the padded envelope so that should keep the postage low for everyone. Jeff, I'm a fan of both so no complaints from me ;) So far we have: Rainer (me) Daniel Perry Miroslav Ural Jeff On Sat, 22 May 2021 01:15:57 -0500, Jeff Ringer via Naktalk wrote: I can add a bootleg The Cure, or bootleg R.E.M. if anyone is interested. > On May 21, 2021, at 11:41 PM, Joy-Ell & Rainer via Naktalk wrote: > > > So I tried to send this off today but it didn't fit through the letter mail size slot so would have been $15 instead of $2 so I took it back and repacked without a case but just the tape inside a antistatic bag inside a padded envelope which puts it well under the size limit so hopefully cheaper for other countries as well. > It's a C-90 so lots of room , anyone else want to add some tracks ? > Would be pretty cool if this could get to Hawaii, Austria, Australia, India and as many countries as possible! :) > Daniel, a live track and/or non Nak track would be pretty cool too! > If anyone wants to digitize along the way and post a link better yet! :) > > Cheers, > Rainer S. (80steck0 > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: Pro Chrome traveling tape > Date: Fri, 21 May 2021 16:41:37 -0400 > From: Daniel Botelho > To: Joy-Ell & Rainer > > > That is pretty straightforward. :) > > Not sure if my Dragon is up to snuff, but I guess we will see. My tascam 122MKII is a great recording deck as well as my pioneer CT-A9X, but may as well keep it in the nak family. 😎 > > Great stuff. I'll try the 70 vs 120us, as I've heard many great things from using it. > > Will probably do a vinyl drop. Maybe 2 . 😁 > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= From naktalk at lists.naks.com Mon May 31 20:32:05 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Daniel Botelho via Naktalk) Date: Mon, 31 May 2021 14:32:05 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] Pro Chrome traveling tape In-Reply-To: References: <1621704664.855vvmai8scs8kcs@webmail.sasktel.net> Message-ID: Hi Marcelo I have no issues with adding you to the list. I think the more people would make for a more interesting mix tape. :) I'll add you to the bottom of the list, but I think that rainier should get the final call on this. So far on the list, I see: Rainer (me) Daniel Perry Miroslav Ural Jeff I can add you to the list if there are no objections... Perry, if you can send me your address, I'll mail it out once I get my music selections up and going. :) Thanks! Daniel On Mon, May 31, 2021 at 1:50 PM Marcelo Mansour particular < marcelo.mansour at terra.com.br> wrote: > If you want to include me, I have Dragon, CR70, CR50 and 2 x CR30 in my > collection. > I can record and pass it on to the next one, I'm in Brazil-São Paulo. > > -----Mensagem original----- > De: Naktalk Em nome de Daniel Botelho > via Naktalk > Enviada em: segunda-feira, 31 de maio de 2021 14:06 > Para: Joy-Ell & Rainer ; Nakamichi List < > naktalk at lists.naks.com>; jeffmringer at yahoo.com > Assunto: Re: [naktalk] Pro Chrome traveling tape > > Tape has arrived. Listening to it now. No disappointments! 😎 > > > > > > Original Message > > > From: naktalk at lists.naks.com > Sent: May 22, 2021 1:31 p.m. > To: jeffmringer at yahoo.com; naktalk at lists.naks.com Reply to: > joyell.solie at sasktel.net; naktalk at lists.naks.com > Subject: [naktalk] Pro Chrome traveling tape > > > Package is on it's way to Daniel! :) On Ural's suggestion I broke off the > side of the case that holds the reels and put that in with the tape. It's > well under 2cm with the padded envelope so that should keep the postage low > for everyone. Jeff, I'm a fan of both so no complaints from me ;) > > So far we have: > > Rainer (me) > Daniel > Perry > Miroslav > Ural > Jeff > > > > On Sat, 22 May 2021 01:15:57 -0500, Jeff Ringer via Naktalk < > naktalk at lists.naks.com> wrote: > > I can add a bootleg The Cure, or bootleg R.E.M. if anyone is interested. > > > On May 21, 2021, at 11:41 PM, Joy-Ell & Rainer via Naktalk wrote: > > > > > > So I tried to send this off today but it didn't fit through the letter > mail size slot so would have been $15 instead of $2 so I took it back and > repacked without a case but just the tape inside a antistatic bag inside a > padded envelope which puts it well under the size limit so hopefully > cheaper for other countries as well. > > It's a C-90 so lots of room , anyone else want to add some tracks ? > > Would be pretty cool if this could get to Hawaii, Austria, Australia, > India and as many countries as possible! :) > > Daniel, a live track and/or non Nak track would be pretty cool too! > > If anyone wants to digitize along the way and post a link better yet! :) > > > > Cheers, > > Rainer S. (80steck0 > > > > -------- Original Message -------- > > Subject: Re: Pro Chrome traveling tape > > Date: Fri, 21 May 2021 16:41:37 -0400 > > From: Daniel Botelho > > To: Joy-Ell & Rainer > > > > > > That is pretty straightforward. :) > > > > Not sure if my Dragon is up to snuff, but I guess we will see. My tascam > 122MKII is a great recording deck as well as my pioneer CT-A9X, but may as > well keep it in the nak family. 😎 > > > > Great stuff. I'll try the 70 vs 120us, as I've heard many great things > from using it. > > > > Will probably do a vinyl drop. Maybe 2 . 😁 > > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Mon May 31 21:05:48 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Joy-Ell & Rainer via Naktalk) Date: Mon, 31 May 2021 15:05:48 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] Pro Chrome traveling tape In-Reply-To: References: <1621704664.855vvmai8scs8kcs@webmail.sasktel.net> Message-ID: <1622487948.itma22ti74ckw0os@webmail.sasktel.net> Sounds good Marcello :)  Daniel, when you are done recording post what you put on to the tape and add Marcello to the list. Cheers, Rainer   P.S. Any one listening to my first recording might notice a buzzing/ticking sound on the leader. It wasn't there before recording and was added to with a second recording pass so definitely from the record or erase head but have no idea what is going on with that!  On Mon, 31 May 2021 14:32:05 -0400, Daniel Botelho via Naktalk wrote:   Hi Marcelo   I have no issues with adding you to the list.  I think the more people would make for a more interesting mix tape.  :) I'll add you to the bottom of the list, but I think that rainier should get the final call on this.   So far on the list, I see: Rainer (me) Daniel Perry Miroslav Ural Jeff   I can add you to the list if there are no objections...   Perry, if you can send me your address, I'll mail it out once I get my music selections up and going.  :)   Thanks!   Daniel        On Mon, May 31, 2021 at 1:50 PM Marcelo Mansour particular wrote: If you want to include me, I have Dragon, CR70, CR50 and 2 x CR30 in my collection. I can record and pass it on to the next one, I'm in Brazil-São Paulo. -----Mensagem original----- De: Naktalk Em nome de Daniel Botelho via Naktalk Enviada em: segunda-feira, 31 de maio de 2021 14:06 Para: Joy-Ell & Rainer ; Nakamichi List ; jeffmringer at yahoo.com Assunto: Re: [naktalk] Pro Chrome traveling tape Tape has arrived.  Listening to it now.  No disappointments!  😎           Original Message      From: naktalk at lists.naks.com Sent: May 22, 2021 1:31 p.m. To: jeffmringer at yahoo.com; naktalk at lists.naks.com Reply to: joyell.solie at sasktel.net; naktalk at lists.naks.com Subject: [naktalk] Pro Chrome traveling tape Package is on it's way to Daniel! :)  On Ural's suggestion I broke off the side of the case that holds the reels and put that in with the tape. It's well under 2cm with the padded envelope so that should keep the postage low for everyone. Jeff, I'm a fan of both so no complaints from me ;)  So far we have: Rainer (me) Daniel Perry Miroslav Ural Jeff On Sat, 22 May 2021 01:15:57 -0500, Jeff Ringer via Naktalk wrote: I can add a bootleg The Cure, or bootleg R.E.M. if anyone is interested. > On May 21, 2021, at 11:41 PM, Joy-Ell & Rainer via Naktalk wrote: > > > So I tried to send this off today but it didn't fit through the letter mail size slot so would have been $15 instead of $2 so I took it back and repacked without a case but just the tape inside a antistatic bag inside a padded envelope which puts it well under the size limit so hopefully cheaper for other countries as well. > It's a C-90 so lots of room , anyone else want to add some tracks ? > Would be pretty cool if this could get to Hawaii, Austria, Australia, India and as many countries as possible! :) > Daniel, a live track and/or non Nak track would be pretty cool too! > If anyone wants to digitize along the way and post a link better yet! :) > > Cheers, > Rainer S. (80steck0 > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: Pro Chrome traveling tape > Date: Fri, 21 May 2021 16:41:37 -0400 > From: Daniel Botelho > To: Joy-Ell & Rainer > > > That is pretty straightforward. :) > > Not sure if my Dragon is up to snuff, but I guess we will see. My tascam 122MKII is a great recording deck as well as my pioneer CT-A9X, but may as well keep it in the nak family. 😎 > > Great stuff. I'll try the 70 vs 120us, as I've heard many great things from using it. > > Will probably do a vinyl drop. 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URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Mon May 31 21:04:57 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Marcelo Mansour particular via Naktalk) Date: Mon, 31 May 2021 16:04:57 -0300 Subject: [naktalk] RES: Pro Chrome traveling tape In-Reply-To: References: <1621704664.855vvmai8scs8kcs@webmail.sasktel.net> Message-ID: Hi Daniel, Thanks!!! I'll wait for everyone to agree and my address is on my signature. Atenciosamente / Saludos / Best regards / Mit freundlichen Grüssen, Marcelo Farid Mansour Tel: +55-11 4425-4245 Cel: +55-11 96831-5151 Rua Senador Queirós, 165 Vila Scarpelli - Santo André-SP-Brazil Zip Code: 09050-300 De: Daniel Botelho Enviada em: segunda-feira, 31 de maio de 2021 15:32 Para: Marcelo Mansour particular Cc: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks ; Joy-Ell & Rainer ; jeffmringer at yahoo.com Assunto: Re: [naktalk] Pro Chrome traveling tape Hi Marcelo I have no issues with adding you to the list. I think the more people would make for a more interesting mix tape. :) I'll add you to the bottom of the list, but I think that rainier should get the final call on this. So far on the list, I see: Rainer (me) Daniel Perry Miroslav Ural Jeff I can add you to the list if there are no objections... Perry, if you can send me your address, I'll mail it out once I get my music selections up and going. :) Thanks! Daniel On Mon, May 31, 2021 at 1:50 PM Marcelo Mansour particular > wrote: If you want to include me, I have Dragon, CR70, CR50 and 2 x CR30 in my collection. I can record and pass it on to the next one, I'm in Brazil-São Paulo. -----Mensagem original----- De: Naktalk > Em nome de Daniel Botelho via Naktalk Enviada em: segunda-feira, 31 de maio de 2021 14:06 Para: Joy-Ell & Rainer >; Nakamichi List >; jeffmringer at yahoo.com Assunto: Re: [naktalk] Pro Chrome traveling tape Tape has arrived. Listening to it now. No disappointments! 😎 Original Message From: naktalk at lists.naks.com Sent: May 22, 2021 1:31 p.m. To: jeffmringer at yahoo.com ; naktalk at lists.naks.com Reply to: joyell.solie at sasktel.net ; naktalk at lists.naks.com Subject: [naktalk] Pro Chrome traveling tape Package is on it's way to Daniel! :) On Ural's suggestion I broke off the side of the case that holds the reels and put that in with the tape. It's well under 2cm with the padded envelope so that should keep the postage low for everyone. Jeff, I'm a fan of both so no complaints from me ;) So far we have: Rainer (me) Daniel Perry Miroslav Ural Jeff On Sat, 22 May 2021 01:15:57 -0500, Jeff Ringer via Naktalk > wrote: I can add a bootleg The Cure, or bootleg R.E.M. if anyone is interested. > On May 21, 2021, at 11:41 PM, Joy-Ell & Rainer via Naktalk wrote: > > > So I tried to send this off today but it didn't fit through the letter mail size slot so would have been $15 instead of $2 so I took it back and repacked without a case but just the tape inside a antistatic bag inside a padded envelope which puts it well under the size limit so hopefully cheaper for other countries as well. > It's a C-90 so lots of room , anyone else want to add some tracks ? > Would be pretty cool if this could get to Hawaii, Austria, Australia, India and as many countries as possible! :) > Daniel, a live track and/or non Nak track would be pretty cool too! > If anyone wants to digitize along the way and post a link better yet! :) > > Cheers, > Rainer S. (80steck0 > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: Pro Chrome traveling tape > Date: Fri, 21 May 2021 16:41:37 -0400 > From: Daniel Botelho > To: Joy-Ell & Rainer > > > That is pretty straightforward. :) > > Not sure if my Dragon is up to snuff, but I guess we will see. My tascam 122MKII is a great recording deck as well as my pioneer CT-A9X, but may as well keep it in the nak family. 😎 > > Great stuff. I'll try the 70 vs 120us, as I've heard many great things from using it. > > Will probably do a vinyl drop. Maybe 2 . 😁 > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Mon May 31 22:27:11 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Marcelo Mansour particular via Naktalk) Date: Mon, 31 May 2021 17:27:11 -0300 Subject: [naktalk] RES: Pro Chrome traveling tape In-Reply-To: <1622487948.itma22ti74ckw0os@webmail.sasktel.net> References: <1621704664.855vvmai8scs8kcs@webmail.sasktel.net> <1622487948.itma22ti74ckw0os@webmail.sasktel.net> Message-ID: Hi All, Thanks and I appreciate being part of these tests. Atenciosamente / Saludos / Best regards / Mit freundlichen Grüssen, Marcelo Farid Mansour Tel: +55-11 4425-4245 Cel: +55-11 96831-5151 Rua Senador Queirós, 165 Vila Scarpelli - Santo André-SP-Brazil Zip Code: 09050-300 De: Naktalk Em nome de Joy-Ell & Rainer via Naktalk Enviada em: segunda-feira, 31 de maio de 2021 16:06 Para: daniel.botelho at gmail.com; Naktalk Assunto: Re: [naktalk] Pro Chrome traveling tape Sounds good Marcello :) Daniel, when you are done recording post what you put on to the tape and add Marcello to the list. Cheers, Rainer P.S. Any one listening to my first recording might notice a buzzing/ticking sound on the leader. It wasn't there before recording and was added to with a second recording pass so definitely from the record or erase head but have no idea what is going on with that! On Mon, 31 May 2021 14:32:05 -0400, Daniel Botelho via Naktalk > wrote: Hi Marcelo I have no issues with adding you to the list. I think the more people would make for a more interesting mix tape. :) I'll add you to the bottom of the list, but I think that rainier should get the final call on this. So far on the list, I see: Rainer (me) Daniel Perry Miroslav Ural Jeff I can add you to the list if there are no objections... Perry, if you can send me your address, I'll mail it out once I get my music selections up and going. :) Thanks! Daniel On Mon, May 31, 2021 at 1:50 PM Marcelo Mansour particular > wrote: If you want to include me, I have Dragon, CR70, CR50 and 2 x CR30 in my collection. I can record and pass it on to the next one, I'm in Brazil-São Paulo. -----Mensagem original----- De: Naktalk > Em nome de Daniel Botelho via Naktalk Enviada em: segunda-feira, 31 de maio de 2021 14:06 Para: Joy-Ell & Rainer >; Nakamichi List >; jeffmringer at yahoo.com Assunto: Re: [naktalk] Pro Chrome traveling tape Tape has arrived. Listening to it now. No disappointments! 😎 Original Message From: naktalk at lists.naks.com Sent: May 22, 2021 1:31 p.m. To: jeffmringer at yahoo.com ; naktalk at lists.naks.com Reply to: joyell.solie at sasktel.net ; naktalk at lists.naks.com Subject: [naktalk] Pro Chrome traveling tape Package is on it's way to Daniel! :) On Ural's suggestion I broke off the side of the case that holds the reels and put that in with the tape. It's well under 2cm with the padded envelope so that should keep the postage low for everyone. Jeff, I'm a fan of both so no complaints from me ;) So far we have: Rainer (me) Daniel Perry Miroslav Ural Jeff On Sat, 22 May 2021 01:15:57 -0500, Jeff Ringer via Naktalk > wrote: I can add a bootleg The Cure, or bootleg R.E.M. if anyone is interested. > On May 21, 2021, at 11:41 PM, Joy-Ell & Rainer via Naktalk wrote: > > > So I tried to send this off today but it didn't fit through the letter mail size slot so would have been $15 instead of $2 so I took it back and repacked without a case but just the tape inside a antistatic bag inside a padded envelope which puts it well under the size limit so hopefully cheaper for other countries as well. > It's a C-90 so lots of room , anyone else want to add some tracks ? > Would be pretty cool if this could get to Hawaii, Austria, Australia, India and as many countries as possible! :) > Daniel, a live track and/or non Nak track would be pretty cool too! > If anyone wants to digitize along the way and post a link better yet! :) > > Cheers, > Rainer S. (80steck0 > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: Pro Chrome traveling tape > Date: Fri, 21 May 2021 16:41:37 -0400 > From: Daniel Botelho > To: Joy-Ell & Rainer > > > That is pretty straightforward. :) > > Not sure if my Dragon is up to snuff, but I guess we will see. My tascam 122MKII is a great recording deck as well as my pioneer CT-A9X, but may as well keep it in the nak family. 😎 > > Great stuff. I'll try the 70 vs 120us, as I've heard many great things from using it. > > Will probably do a vinyl drop. Maybe 2 . 😁 > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Mon May 31 23:18:54 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (G. Fisher via Naktalk) Date: Mon, 31 May 2021 21:18:54 +0000 Subject: [naktalk] Pro Chrome traveling tape In-Reply-To: References: <1621704664.855vvmai8scs8kcs@webmail.sasktel.net>, Message-ID: Hello everyone, if you are still looking for some input from Australia for your travelling tape, I'd be very happy to put the ZX7 I bought from Perry Esposito a few years ago to good use. I could add a couple of original tracks from the recent live gig of a great local rock band - The Filthy Darlings - that I recorded and mixed digitally in 24/96 resolution on a DAW. Regards, Geoff Fisher Canberra, Australia Sent from my Galaxy -------- Original message -------- From: Daniel Botelho via Naktalk Date: 1/6/21 3:35 am (GMT+10:00) To: Joy-Ell & Rainer , Nakamichi List , jeffmringer at yahoo.com Subject: Re: [naktalk] Pro Chrome traveling tape Tape has arrived. Listening to it now. No disappointments! 😎 Original Message From: naktalk at lists.naks.com Sent: May 22, 2021 1:31 p.m. To: jeffmringer at yahoo.com; naktalk at lists.naks.com Reply to: joyell.solie at sasktel.net; naktalk at lists.naks.com Subject: [naktalk] Pro Chrome traveling tape Package is on it's way to Daniel! :) On Ural's suggestion I broke off the side of the case that holds the reels and put that in with the tape. It's well under 2cm with the padded envelope so that should keep the postage low for everyone. Jeff, I'm a fan of both so no complaints from me ;) So far we have: Rainer (me) Daniel Perry Miroslav Ural Jeff On Sat, 22 May 2021 01:15:57 -0500, Jeff Ringer via Naktalk wrote: I can add a bootleg The Cure, or bootleg R.E.M. if anyone is interested. > On May 21, 2021, at 11:41 PM, Joy-Ell & Rainer via Naktalk wrote: > > > So I tried to send this off today but it didn't fit through the letter mail size slot so would have been $15 instead of $2 so I took it back and repacked without a case but just the tape inside a antistatic bag inside a padded envelope which puts it well under the size limit so hopefully cheaper for other countries as well. > It's a C-90 so lots of room , anyone else want to add some tracks ? > Would be pretty cool if this could get to Hawaii, Austria, Australia, India and as many countries as possible! :) > Daniel, a live track and/or non Nak track would be pretty cool too! > If anyone wants to digitize along the way and post a link better yet! :) > > Cheers, > Rainer S. (80steck0 > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: Pro Chrome traveling tape > Date: Fri, 21 May 2021 16:41:37 -0400 > From: Daniel Botelho > To: Joy-Ell & Rainer > > > That is pretty straightforward. :) > > Not sure if my Dragon is up to snuff, but I guess we will see. My tascam 122MKII is a great recording deck as well as my pioneer CT-A9X, but may as well keep it in the nak family. 😎 > > Great stuff. I'll try the 70 vs 120us, as I've heard many great things from using it. > > Will probably do a vinyl drop. Maybe 2 . 😁 > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Mon May 31 23:53:36 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Joy-Ell & Rainer via Naktalk) Date: Mon, 31 May 2021 17:53:36 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] Pro Chrome traveling tape In-Reply-To: References: <1621704664.855vvmai8scs8kcs@webmail.sasktel.net>, Message-ID: <1622498016.zwpbx792e8cowwks@webmail.sasktel.net> That would be great Geoff! :) You are on the list! Rainer (me) Daniel Perry Miroslav  Ural Jeff Marcelo Geoff  Cheers, Rainer S.  On Mon, 31 May 2021 21:18:54 +0000, "G. Fisher" wrote:   Hello everyone,  if you are still looking for some input from Australia for your travelling tape,  I'd  be very happy to put the ZX7 I bought from Perry Esposito a few years ago to good use.  I could add a couple of original tracks from the recent live gig of a great local rock band - The Filthy Darlings - that I recorded and mixed digitally in 24/96 resolution on a DAW.     Regards,   Geoff Fisher Canberra, Australia        Sent from my Galaxy       -------- Original message -------- From: Daniel Botelho via Naktalk Date: 1/6/21 3:35 am (GMT+10:00) To: Joy-Ell & Rainer , Nakamichi List , jeffmringer at yahoo.com Subject: Re: [naktalk] Pro Chrome traveling tape   Tape has arrived.  Listening to it now.  No disappointments!  😎           Original Message      From: naktalk at lists.naks.com Sent: May 22, 2021 1:31 p.m. To: jeffmringer at yahoo.com; naktalk at lists.naks.com Reply to: joyell.solie at sasktel.net; naktalk at lists.naks.com Subject: [naktalk] Pro Chrome traveling tape Package is on it's way to Daniel! :)  On Ural's suggestion I broke off the side of the case that holds the reels and put that in with the tape. It's well under 2cm with the padded envelope so that should keep the postage low for everyone.  Jeff, I'm a fan of both so no complaints from me ;)   So far we have:  Rainer (me) Daniel Perry Miroslav  Ural Jeff On Sat, 22 May 2021 01:15:57 -0500, Jeff Ringer via Naktalk wrote: I can add a bootleg The Cure, or bootleg R.E.M. if anyone is interested. > On May 21, 2021, at 11:41 PM, Joy-Ell & Rainer via Naktalk wrote: > > > So I tried to send this off today but it didn't fit through the letter mail size slot so would have been $15 instead of $2 so I took it back and repacked without a case but just the tape inside a antistatic bag inside a padded envelope which puts it well under the size limit so hopefully cheaper for other countries as well. > It's a C-90 so lots of room , anyone else want to add some tracks ? > Would be pretty cool if this could get to Hawaii, Austria, Australia, India and as many countries as possible! :) > Daniel, a live track and/or non Nak track would be pretty cool too! > If anyone wants to digitize along the way and post a link better yet! :) > > Cheers, > Rainer S. (80steck0 > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: Pro Chrome traveling tape > Date: Fri, 21 May 2021 16:41:37 -0400 > From: Daniel Botelho > To: Joy-Ell & Rainer > > > That is pretty straightforward. :) > > Not sure if my Dragon is up to snuff, but I guess we will see. My tascam 122MKII is a great recording deck as well as my pioneer CT-A9X, but may as well keep it in the nak family. 😎 > > Great stuff. I'll try the 70 vs 120us, as I've heard many great things from using it. > > Will probably do a vinyl drop. Maybe 2 . 😁 >   ========---------------------------------------------------------=========           Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com ========---------------------------------------------------------=========                         Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: g:\07. razno\naktalk archive\2021\2021-6.txt ************************************************************************ From naktalk at lists.naks.com Thu Jun 3 04:54:33 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Joy-Ell & Rainer via Naktalk) Date: Wed, 02 Jun 2021 22:54:33 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] Nak TD-700 Message-ID: <1622688873.5c6bfxhj0g8wcg8o@webmail.sasktel.net> If anyone needs service on TD-500/700 car decks, I am able to take some bookings starting in October. Cheers, Rainer S. (80stech) From naktalk at lists.naks.com Thu Jun 3 07:49:37 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Daniel Botelho via Naktalk) Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2021 01:49:37 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] Pro Chrome traveling tape In-Reply-To: <1622498016.zwpbx792e8cowwks@webmail.sasktel.net> References: <1621704664.855vvmai8scs8kcs@webmail.sasktel.net> <1622498016.zwpbx792e8cowwks@webmail.sasktel.net> Message-ID: This will be quite the interesting tape. :) I did like your recording choices, rainer! I'm hopeful that the azimuth on our decks will be pretty close... It really would be great to have a digitized copy of the tape once it has made its rounds. I tried keeping the levels to a reasonable level, as it is a pure chrome tape. Regardless, it seemed to hold up pretty well with the peaks. Its not as quiet as I thought it would be to be honest... I also used 70us for the recording to keep things standardized, no dolby, and used 2 recordings: - Sara bareilles Goodbye yellow brick road (pulled from 48khz DVD audio track) Source from flac file/topping D50s DAC - Diana Krall - I'm an errand girl for rhythm (33rpm ORG pressing) Turntable was a rega P3-2000 with ortofon super OM30 via pro-ject phono box DS On Mon, May 31, 2021 at 5:53 PM Joy-Ell & Rainer via Naktalk < naktalk at lists.naks.com> wrote: > That would be great Geoff! :) You are on the list! > > Rainer (me) > Daniel > Perry > Miroslav > Ural > Jeff > Marcelo > Geoff > Cheers, > Rainer S. > > On Mon, 31 May 2021 21:18:54 +0000, "G. Fisher" > wrote: > > Hello everyone, if you are still looking for some input from Australia > for your travelling tape, I'd be very happy to put the ZX7 I bought from > Perry Esposito a few years ago to good use. I could add a couple of > original tracks from the recent live gig of a great local rock band - The > Filthy Darlings - that I recorded and mixed digitally in 24/96 resolution > on a DAW. > > Regards, > > Geoff Fisher > Canberra, Australia > > > > Sent from my Galaxy > > > > -------- Original message -------- > From: Daniel Botelho via Naktalk > Date: 1/6/21 3:35 am (GMT+10:00) > To: Joy-Ell & Rainer , Nakamichi List < > naktalk at lists.naks.com>, jeffmringer at yahoo.com > Subject: Re: [naktalk] Pro Chrome traveling tape > > Tape has arrived. Listening to it now. No disappointments! 😎 > > > > > > Original Message > > > From: naktalk at lists.naks.com > Sent: May 22, 2021 1:31 p.m. > To: jeffmringer at yahoo.com; naktalk at lists.naks.com > Reply to: joyell.solie at sasktel.net; naktalk at lists.naks.com > Subject: [naktalk] Pro Chrome traveling tape > > > Package is on it's way to Daniel! :) On Ural's suggestion I broke off the > side of the case that holds the reels and put that in with the tape. It's > well under 2cm with the padded envelope so that should keep the postage low > for everyone. > Jeff, I'm a fan of both so no complaints from me ;) > > So far we have: > > Rainer (me) > Daniel > Perry > Miroslav > Ural > Jeff > > > > On Sat, 22 May 2021 01:15:57 -0500, Jeff Ringer via Naktalk < > naktalk at lists.naks.com> wrote: > > I can add a bootleg The Cure, or bootleg R.E.M. if anyone is interested. > > > On May 21, 2021, at 11:41 PM, Joy-Ell & Rainer via Naktalk wrote: > > > > > > So I tried to send this off today but it didn't fit through the letter > mail size slot so would have been $15 instead of $2 so I took it back and > repacked without a case but just the tape inside a antistatic bag inside a > padded envelope which puts it well under the size limit so hopefully > cheaper for other countries as well. > > It's a C-90 so lots of room , anyone else want to add some tracks ? > > Would be pretty cool if this could get to Hawaii, Austria, Australia, > India and as many countries as possible! :) > > Daniel, a live track and/or non Nak track would be pretty cool too! > > If anyone wants to digitize along the way and post a link better yet! :) > > > > Cheers, > > Rainer S. (80steck0 > > > > -------- Original Message -------- > > Subject: Re: Pro Chrome traveling tape > > Date: Fri, 21 May 2021 16:41:37 -0400 > > From: Daniel Botelho > > To: Joy-Ell & Rainer > > > > > > That is pretty straightforward. :) > > > > Not sure if my Dragon is up to snuff, but I guess we will see. My tascam > 122MKII is a great recording deck as well as my pioneer CT-A9X, but may as > well keep it in the nak family. 😎 > > > > Great stuff. I'll try the 70 vs 120us, as I've heard many great things > from using it. > > > > Will probably do a vinyl drop. 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URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Thu Jun 3 09:05:48 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Joy-Ell & Rainer via Naktalk) Date: Thu, 03 Jun 2021 03:05:48 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] Pro Chrome traveling tape In-Reply-To: References: <1621704664.855vvmai8scs8kcs@webmail.sasktel.net> <1622498016.zwpbx792e8cowwks@webmail.sasktel.net> Message-ID: <1622703948.ek6r2ef4w0sgg4kw@webmail.sasktel.net> Sounds good Daniel :) The azimuth will be less of a problem if I use my Dragon at the end to digitize the tape. I noticed it might not be as quiet as the previous tape was that I had recorded over a few times for testing but thought I was imagining it, I'll make note of that. Also the un-played tape out of the box seems not spooled quite as nicely as once it has gone through the deck but I don't think will be a problem. Nice music and source choices! :) What deck did you end up using? Perry is next so I'll leave it up to you to get his address and send it on.   On Thu, 3 Jun 2021 01:49:37 -0400, Daniel Botelho via Naktalk wrote:   This will be quite the interesting tape.  :)  I did like your recording choices, rainer!   I'm hopeful that the azimuth on our decks will be pretty close... It really would be great to have a digitized copy of the tape once it has made its rounds.   I tried keeping the levels to a reasonable level, as it is a pure chrome tape.  Regardless, it seemed to hold up pretty well with the peaks.  Its not as quiet as I thought it would be to be honest...   I also used 70us for the recording to keep things standardized, no dolby, and used 2 recordings: - Sara bareilles Goodbye yellow brick road (pulled from 48khz DVD audio track)  Source from flac file/topping D50s DAC - Diana Krall - I'm an errand girl for rhythm (33rpm ORG pressing) Turntable was a rega P3-2000 with ortofon super OM30 via pro-ject phono box DS                On Mon, May 31, 2021 at 5:53 PM Joy-Ell & Rainer via Naktalk wrote: That would be great Geoff! :) You are on the list! Rainer (me) Daniel Perry Miroslav  Ural Jeff Marcelo Geoff  Cheers, Rainer S.  On Mon, 31 May 2021 21:18:54 +0000, "G. Fisher" wrote:   Hello everyone,  if you are still looking for some input from Australia for your travelling tape,  I'd  be very happy to put the ZX7 I bought from Perry Esposito a few years ago to good use.  I could add a couple of original tracks from the recent live gig of a great local rock band - The Filthy Darlings - that I recorded and mixed digitally in 24/96 resolution on a DAW.     Regards,   Geoff Fisher Canberra, Australia        Sent from my Galaxy       -------- Original message -------- From: Daniel Botelho via Naktalk Date: 1/6/21 3:35 am (GMT+10:00) To: Joy-Ell & Rainer , Nakamichi List , jeffmringer at yahoo.com Subject: Re: [naktalk] Pro Chrome traveling tape   Tape has arrived.  Listening to it now.  No disappointments!  😎           Original Message      From: naktalk at lists.naks.com Sent: May 22, 2021 1:31 p.m. To: jeffmringer at yahoo.com; naktalk at lists.naks.com Reply to: joyell.solie at sasktel.net; naktalk at lists.naks.com Subject: [naktalk] Pro Chrome traveling tape Package is on it's way to Daniel! :)  On Ural's suggestion I broke off the side of the case that holds the reels and put that in with the tape. It's well under 2cm with the padded envelope so that should keep the postage low for everyone.  Jeff, I'm a fan of both so no complaints from me ;)   So far we have:  Rainer (me) Daniel Perry Miroslav  Ural Jeff On Sat, 22 May 2021 01:15:57 -0500, Jeff Ringer via Naktalk wrote: I can add a bootleg The Cure, or bootleg R.E.M. if anyone is interested. > On May 21, 2021, at 11:41 PM, Joy-Ell & Rainer via Naktalk wrote: > > > So I tried to send this off today but it didn't fit through the letter mail size slot so would have been $15 instead of $2 so I took it back and repacked without a case but just the tape inside a antistatic bag inside a padded envelope which puts it well under the size limit so hopefully cheaper for other countries as well. > It's a C-90 so lots of room , anyone else want to add some tracks ? > Would be pretty cool if this could get to Hawaii, Austria, Australia, India and as many countries as possible! :) > Daniel, a live track and/or non Nak track would be pretty cool too! > If anyone wants to digitize along the way and post a link better yet! :) > > Cheers, > Rainer S. (80steck0 > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: Pro Chrome traveling tape > Date: Fri, 21 May 2021 16:41:37 -0400 > From: Daniel Botelho > To: Joy-Ell & Rainer > > > That is pretty straightforward. :) > > Not sure if my Dragon is up to snuff, but I guess we will see. My tascam 122MKII is a great recording deck as well as my pioneer CT-A9X, but may as well keep it in the nak family. 😎 > > Great stuff. I'll try the 70 vs 120us, as I've heard many great things from using it. > > Will probably do a vinyl drop. Maybe 2 . 😁 >   ========---------------------------------------------------------=========           Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com ========---------------------------------------------------------=========                         Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= ========---------------------------------------------------------=========           Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com ========---------------------------------------------------------=========                         Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Thu Jun 3 09:19:41 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Daniel Botelho via Naktalk) Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2021 03:19:41 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] Pro Chrome traveling tape In-Reply-To: <1622703948.ek6r2ef4w0sgg4kw@webmail.sasktel.net> References: <1621704664.855vvmai8scs8kcs@webmail.sasktel.net> <1622498016.zwpbx792e8cowwks@webmail.sasktel.net> <1622703948.ek6r2ef4w0sgg4kw@webmail.sasktel.net> Message-ID: Hey Rainer, I ended up using my nak dragon to make the tape. I'm certain that the azimuth is pretty darn close on our decks as I didn't see the NAAC flinch when changing between your recorded tracks and mine. :) Dropped the tape off at the post office yesterday, so it's on its way to Perry as we speak. And you're right; once you get the tape back, the dragon will sort any of those azimuth issues. After doing this, I think I'm ready to make another tape. That was fun! Great idea, Rainer! On Thu, Jun 3, 2021 at 3:05 AM Joy-Ell & Rainer wrote: > Sounds good Daniel :) The azimuth will be less of a problem if I use my > Dragon at the end to digitize the tape. I noticed it might not be as quiet > as the previous tape was that I had recorded over a few times for testing > but thought I was imagining it, I'll make note of that. Also the un-played > tape out of the box seems not spooled quite as nicely as once it has gone > through the deck but I don't think will be a problem. > Nice music and source choices! :) What deck did you end up using? > Perry is next so I'll leave it up to you to get his address and send it > on. > > On Thu, 3 Jun 2021 01:49:37 -0400, Daniel Botelho via Naktalk < > naktalk at lists.naks.com> wrote: > > This will be quite the interesting tape. :) I did like your recording > choices, rainer! > > I'm hopeful that the azimuth on our decks will be pretty close... > It really would be great to have a digitized copy of the tape once it has > made its rounds. > > I tried keeping the levels to a reasonable level, as it is a pure chrome > tape. Regardless, it seemed to hold up pretty well with the peaks. Its > not as quiet as I thought it would be to be honest... > > I also used 70us for the recording to keep things standardized, no dolby, > and used 2 recordings: > - Sara bareilles Goodbye yellow brick road (pulled from 48khz DVD audio > track) Source from flac file/topping D50s DAC > - Diana Krall - I'm an errand girl for rhythm (33rpm ORG pressing) > Turntable was a rega P3-2000 with ortofon super OM30 via pro-ject phono box > DS > > > > > > > > On Mon, May 31, 2021 at 5:53 PM Joy-Ell & Rainer via Naktalk < > naktalk at lists.naks.com> wrote: > >> That would be great Geoff! :) You are on the list! >> >> Rainer (me) >> Daniel >> Perry >> Miroslav >> Ural >> Jeff >> Marcelo >> Geoff >> Cheers, >> Rainer S. >> >> On Mon, 31 May 2021 21:18:54 +0000, "G. Fisher" < >> geoffgmfisher at hotmail.com> wrote: >> >> Hello everyone, if you are still looking for some input from Australia >> for your travelling tape, I'd be very happy to put the ZX7 I bought from >> Perry Esposito a few years ago to good use. I could add a couple of >> original tracks from the recent live gig of a great local rock band - The >> Filthy Darlings - that I recorded and mixed digitally in 24/96 resolution >> on a DAW. >> >> Regards, >> >> Geoff Fisher >> Canberra, Australia >> >> >> >> Sent from my Galaxy >> >> >> >> -------- Original message -------- >> From: Daniel Botelho via Naktalk >> Date: 1/6/21 3:35 am (GMT+10:00) >> To: Joy-Ell & Rainer , Nakamichi List < >> naktalk at lists.naks.com>, jeffmringer at yahoo.com >> Subject: Re: [naktalk] Pro Chrome traveling tape >> >> Tape has arrived. Listening to it now. No disappointments! 😎 >> >> >> >> >> >> Original Message >> >> >> From: naktalk at lists.naks.com >> Sent: May 22, 2021 1:31 p.m. >> To: jeffmringer at yahoo.com; naktalk at lists.naks.com >> Reply to: joyell.solie at sasktel.net; naktalk at lists.naks.com >> Subject: [naktalk] Pro Chrome traveling tape >> >> >> Package is on it's way to Daniel! :) On Ural's suggestion I broke off >> the side of the case that holds the reels and put that in with the tape. >> It's well under 2cm with the padded envelope so that should keep the >> postage low for everyone. >> Jeff, I'm a fan of both so no complaints from me ;) >> >> So far we have: >> >> Rainer (me) >> Daniel >> Perry >> Miroslav >> Ural >> Jeff >> >> >> >> On Sat, 22 May 2021 01:15:57 -0500, Jeff Ringer via Naktalk < >> naktalk at lists.naks.com> wrote: >> >> I can add a bootleg The Cure, or bootleg R.E.M. if anyone is interested. >> >> > On May 21, 2021, at 11:41 PM, Joy-Ell & Rainer via Naktalk wrote: >> > >> > >> > So I tried to send this off today but it didn't fit through the letter >> mail size slot so would have been $15 instead of $2 so I took it back and >> repacked without a case but just the tape inside a antistatic bag inside a >> padded envelope which puts it well under the size limit so hopefully >> cheaper for other countries as well. >> > It's a C-90 so lots of room , anyone else want to add some tracks ? >> > Would be pretty cool if this could get to Hawaii, Austria, Australia, >> India and as many countries as possible! :) >> > Daniel, a live track and/or non Nak track would be pretty cool too! >> > If anyone wants to digitize along the way and post a link better yet! :) >> > >> > Cheers, >> > Rainer S. (80steck0 >> > >> > -------- Original Message -------- >> > Subject: Re: Pro Chrome traveling tape >> > Date: Fri, 21 May 2021 16:41:37 -0400 >> > From: Daniel Botelho >> > To: Joy-Ell & Rainer >> > >> > >> > That is pretty straightforward. :) >> > >> > Not sure if my Dragon is up to snuff, but I guess we will see. My >> tascam 122MKII is a great recording deck as well as my pioneer CT-A9X, but >> may as well keep it in the nak family. 😎 >> > >> > Great stuff. I'll try the 70 vs 120us, as I've heard many great things >> from using it. >> > >> > Will probably do a vinyl drop. Maybe 2 . 😁 >> > >> >> ========---------------------------------------------------------========= >> Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com >> ========---------------------------------------------------------========= >> Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist >> Maintain your account here: >> http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >> ========---------------------------------------------------------========= >> ========---------------------------------------------------------========= >> Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com >> ========---------------------------------------------------------========= >> Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist >> Maintain your account here: >> http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >> ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Sat Jun 5 03:48:55 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Leroy Edwards via Naktalk) Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2021 20:48:55 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] RT-202 References: <7E2E2F92-2CD2-4C52-951D-C2D64EADB357.ref@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <7E2E2F92-2CD2-4C52-951D-C2D64EADB357@yahoo.com> I looking for the clear cover for the RT-202 cassettes deck... Any help would be greatly appreciated.. Sent from my iPhone From naktalk at lists.naks.com Sun Jun 6 18:51:46 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Mark Exstedt via Naktalk) Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2021 16:51:46 +0000 Subject: [naktalk] Pro Chrome traveling tape In-Reply-To: <1622703948.ek6r2ef4w0sgg4kw@webmail.sasktel.net> References: <1621704664.855vvmai8scs8kcs@webmail.sasktel.net> <1622498016.zwpbx792e8cowwks@webmail.sasktel.net> , <1622703948.ek6r2ef4w0sgg4kw@webmail.sasktel.net> Message-ID: Yes, it would be nice if a CD version of the tape was made. I'm in for that to get one. ________________________________ From: Naktalk on behalf of Joy-Ell & Rainer via Naktalk Sent: Thursday, June 3, 2021 1:05 AM To: daniel.botelho at gmail.com ; Naktalk Subject: Re: [naktalk] Pro Chrome traveling tape Sounds good Daniel :) The azimuth will be less of a problem if I use my Dragon at the end to digitize the tape. I noticed it might not be as quiet as the previous tape was that I had recorded over a few times for testing but thought I was imagining it, I'll make note of that. Also the un-played tape out of the box seems not spooled quite as nicely as once it has gone through the deck but I don't think will be a problem. Nice music and source choices! :) What deck did you end up using? Perry is next so I'll leave it up to you to get his address and send it on. On Thu, 3 Jun 2021 01:49:37 -0400, Daniel Botelho via Naktalk wrote: This will be quite the interesting tape. :) I did like your recording choices, rainer! I'm hopeful that the azimuth on our decks will be pretty close... It really would be great to have a digitized copy of the tape once it has made its rounds. I tried keeping the levels to a reasonable level, as it is a pure chrome tape. Regardless, it seemed to hold up pretty well with the peaks. Its not as quiet as I thought it would be to be honest... I also used 70us for the recording to keep things standardized, no dolby, and used 2 recordings: - Sara bareilles Goodbye yellow brick road (pulled from 48khz DVD audio track) Source from flac file/topping D50s DAC - Diana Krall - I'm an errand girl for rhythm (33rpm ORG pressing) Turntable was a rega P3-2000 with ortofon super OM30 via pro-ject phono box DS On Mon, May 31, 2021 at 5:53 PM Joy-Ell & Rainer via Naktalk > wrote: That would be great Geoff! :) You are on the list! Rainer (me) Daniel Perry Miroslav Ural Jeff Marcelo Geoff Cheers, Rainer S. On Mon, 31 May 2021 21:18:54 +0000, "G. Fisher" > wrote: Hello everyone, if you are still looking for some input from Australia for your travelling tape, I'd be very happy to put the ZX7 I bought from Perry Esposito a few years ago to good use. I could add a couple of original tracks from the recent live gig of a great local rock band - The Filthy Darlings - that I recorded and mixed digitally in 24/96 resolution on a DAW. Regards, Geoff Fisher Canberra, Australia Sent from my Galaxy -------- Original message -------- From: Daniel Botelho via Naktalk > Date: 1/6/21 3:35 am (GMT+10:00) To: Joy-Ell & Rainer >, Nakamichi List >, jeffmringer at yahoo.com Subject: Re: [naktalk] Pro Chrome traveling tape Tape has arrived. Listening to it now. No disappointments! 😎 Original Message From: naktalk at lists.naks.com Sent: May 22, 2021 1:31 p.m. To: jeffmringer at yahoo.com; naktalk at lists.naks.com Reply to: joyell.solie at sasktel.net; naktalk at lists.naks.com Subject: [naktalk] Pro Chrome traveling tape Package is on it's way to Daniel! :) On Ural's suggestion I broke off the side of the case that holds the reels and put that in with the tape. It's well under 2cm with the padded envelope so that should keep the postage low for everyone. Jeff, I'm a fan of both so no complaints from me ;) So far we have: Rainer (me) Daniel Perry Miroslav Ural Jeff On Sat, 22 May 2021 01:15:57 -0500, Jeff Ringer via Naktalk > wrote: I can add a bootleg The Cure, or bootleg R.E.M. if anyone is interested. > On May 21, 2021, at 11:41 PM, Joy-Ell & Rainer via Naktalk wrote: > > > So I tried to send this off today but it didn't fit through the letter mail size slot so would have been $15 instead of $2 so I took it back and repacked without a case but just the tape inside a antistatic bag inside a padded envelope which puts it well under the size limit so hopefully cheaper for other countries as well. > It's a C-90 so lots of room , anyone else want to add some tracks ? > Would be pretty cool if this could get to Hawaii, Austria, Australia, India and as many countries as possible! :) > Daniel, a live track and/or non Nak track would be pretty cool too! > If anyone wants to digitize along the way and post a link better yet! :) > > Cheers, > Rainer S. (80steck0 > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: Pro Chrome traveling tape > Date: Fri, 21 May 2021 16:41:37 -0400 > From: Daniel Botelho > To: Joy-Ell & Rainer > > > That is pretty straightforward. :) > > Not sure if my Dragon is up to snuff, but I guess we will see. My tascam 122MKII is a great recording deck as well as my pioneer CT-A9X, but may as well keep it in the nak family. 😎 > > Great stuff. I'll try the 70 vs 120us, as I've heard many great things from using it. > > Will probably do a vinyl drop. 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URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Sun Jun 6 19:44:45 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Michael via Naktalk) Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2021 12:44:45 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Pro Chrome traveling tape In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: If someone will send me the tape ( speak up ) I can make CD’s for anyone that would like a CD. I am just saying. Michael A. Marks, MD 539 Briarwood Drive Clarksville, TN. 37040 931-561-1668 I have a Nakamichi Dragon and a Marantz Professional CD Recorder. Happy listening, M Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 6, 2021, at 12:01 PM, Mark Exstedt via Naktalk wrote: > >  > Yes, it would be nice if a CD version of the tape was made. I'm in for that to get one. > > From: Naktalk on behalf of Joy-Ell & Rainer via Naktalk > Sent: Thursday, June 3, 2021 1:05 AM > To: daniel.botelho at gmail.com ; Naktalk > Subject: Re: [naktalk] Pro Chrome traveling tape > > Sounds good Daniel :) The azimuth will be less of a problem if I use my Dragon at the end to digitize the tape. I noticed it might not be as quiet as the previous tape was that I had recorded over a few times for testing but thought I was imagining it, I'll make note of that. Also the un-played tape out of the box seems not spooled quite as nicely as once it has gone through the deck but I don't think will be a problem. > Nice music and source choices! :) What deck did you end up using? > Perry is next so I'll leave it up to you to get his address and send it on. > > On Thu, 3 Jun 2021 01:49:37 -0400, Daniel Botelho via Naktalk wrote: > > This will be quite the interesting tape. :) I did like your recording choices, rainer! > > I'm hopeful that the azimuth on our decks will be pretty close... > It really would be great to have a digitized copy of the tape once it has made its rounds. > > I tried keeping the levels to a reasonable level, as it is a pure chrome tape. Regardless, it seemed to hold up pretty well with the peaks. Its not as quiet as I thought it would be to be honest... > > I also used 70us for the recording to keep things standardized, no dolby, and used 2 recordings: > - Sara bareilles Goodbye yellow brick road (pulled from 48khz DVD audio track) Source from flac file/topping D50s DAC > - Diana Krall - I'm an errand girl for rhythm (33rpm ORG pressing) Turntable was a rega P3-2000 with ortofon super OM30 via pro-ject phono box DS > > > > > > > > On Mon, May 31, 2021 at 5:53 PM Joy-Ell & Rainer via Naktalk wrote: > That would be great Geoff! :) You are on the list! > > Rainer (me) > Daniel > Perry > Miroslav > Ural > Jeff > Marcelo > Geoff > Cheers, > Rainer S. > > On Mon, 31 May 2021 21:18:54 +0000, "G. Fisher" wrote: > > Hello everyone, if you are still looking for some input from Australia for your travelling tape, I'd be very happy to put the ZX7 I bought from Perry Esposito a few years ago to good use. I could add a couple of original tracks from the recent live gig of a great local rock band - The Filthy Darlings - that I recorded and mixed digitally in 24/96 resolution on a DAW. > > Regards, > > Geoff Fisher > Canberra, Australia > > > > Sent from my Galaxy > > > > -------- Original message -------- > From: Daniel Botelho via Naktalk > Date: 1/6/21 3:35 am (GMT+10:00) > To: Joy-Ell & Rainer , Nakamichi List , jeffmringer at yahoo.com > Subject: Re: [naktalk] Pro Chrome traveling tape > > Tape has arrived. Listening to it now. No disappointments! 😎 > > > > > > Original Message > > > From: naktalk at lists.naks.com > Sent: May 22, 2021 1:31 p.m. > To: jeffmringer at yahoo.com; naktalk at lists.naks.com > Reply to: joyell.solie at sasktel.net; naktalk at lists.naks.com > Subject: [naktalk] Pro Chrome traveling tape > > > Package is on it's way to Daniel! :) On Ural's suggestion I broke off the side of the case that holds the reels and put that in with the tape. It's well under 2cm with the padded envelope so that should keep the postage low for everyone. > Jeff, I'm a fan of both so no complaints from me ;) > > So far we have: > > Rainer (me) > Daniel > Perry > Miroslav > Ural > Jeff > > > > On Sat, 22 May 2021 01:15:57 -0500, Jeff Ringer via Naktalk wrote: > > I can add a bootleg The Cure, or bootleg R.E.M. if anyone is interested. > > > On May 21, 2021, at 11:41 PM, Joy-Ell & Rainer via Naktalk wrote: > > > > > > So I tried to send this off today but it didn't fit through the letter mail size slot so would have been $15 instead of $2 so I took it back and repacked without a case but just the tape inside a antistatic bag inside a padded envelope which puts it well under the size limit so hopefully cheaper for other countries as well. > > It's a C-90 so lots of room , anyone else want to add some tracks ? > > Would be pretty cool if this could get to Hawaii, Austria, Australia, India and as many countries as possible! :) > > Daniel, a live track and/or non Nak track would be pretty cool too! > > If anyone wants to digitize along the way and post a link better yet! :) > > > > Cheers, > > Rainer S. (80steck0 > > > > -------- Original Message -------- > > Subject: Re: Pro Chrome traveling tape > > Date: Fri, 21 May 2021 16:41:37 -0400 > > From: Daniel Botelho > > To: Joy-Ell & Rainer > > > > > > That is pretty straightforward. :) > > > > Not sure if my Dragon is up to snuff, but I guess we will see. My tascam 122MKII is a great recording deck as well as my pioneer CT-A9X, but may as well keep it in the nak family. 😎 > > > > Great stuff. I'll try the 70 vs 120us, as I've heard many great things from using it. > > > > Will probably do a vinyl drop. 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URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Tue Jun 8 04:32:40 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Joy-Ell & Rainer via Naktalk) Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2021 22:32:40 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] Pro Chrome traveling tape In-Reply-To: References: <1621658488.qhs531z9r4gkcw4s@webmail.sasktel.net> Message-ID: <1623119560.1p5ecqotwkcggs8c@webmail.sasktel.net> Thanks Jeff! :) I'm a big fan of both the Cure and R.E.M. so looking forward to your contribution! Cheers, Rainer S. (80stech) On Mon, 7 Jun 2021 21:23:57 -0500, Jeff Ringer wrote: Forgot to add my address Jeff Ringer PO Box 1264 Norman, OK 73070 > On May 22, 2021, at 1:15 AM, Jeff Ringer wrote: > > I can add a bootleg The Cure, or bootleg R.E.M. if anyone is interested. > >> On May 21, 2021, at 11:41 PM, Joy-Ell & Rainer via Naktalk wrote: >> >> >> So I tried to send this off today but it didn't fit through the letter mail size slot so would have been $15 instead of $2 so I took it back and repacked without a case but just the tape inside a antistatic bag inside a padded envelope which puts it well under the size limit so hopefully cheaper for other countries as well. >> It's a C-90 so lots of room , anyone else want to add some tracks ? >> Would be pretty cool if this could get to Hawaii, Austria, Australia, India and as many countries as possible! :) >> Daniel, a live track and/or non Nak track would be pretty cool too! >> If anyone wants to digitize along the way and post a link better yet! :) >> >> Cheers, >> Rainer S. (80steck0 >> >> -------- Original Message -------- >> Subject: Re: Pro Chrome traveling tape >> Date: Fri, 21 May 2021 16:41:37 -0400 >> From: Daniel Botelho >> To: Joy-Ell & Rainer >> >> >> That is pretty straightforward. :) >> >> Not sure if my Dragon is up to snuff, but I guess we will see. My tascam 122MKII is a great recording deck as well as my pioneer CT-A9X, but may as well keep it in the nak family. 😎 >> >> Great stuff. I'll try the 70 vs 120us, as I've heard many great things from using it. >> >> Will probably do a vinyl drop. Maybe 2 . 😁 >> >> >> >> >> >> Original Message >> >> >> From: joyell.solie at sasktel.net >> Sent: May 21, 2021 4:13 p.m. >> To: daniel.botelho at gmail.com >> Reply to: joyell.solie at sasktel.net >> Subject: Re: Pro Chrome traveling tape >> >> >> Yep, just put yours on after mine and pass it forward. ( I'm thinking keep things in order of who chimes in when) >> Whatever you want to do for recordings Daniel. I haven't done one of these before either so kinda making this up as we go! ;) >> >> >> >> On Fri, 21 May 2021 16:01:26 -0400, Daniel Botelho wrote: >> >> Okay, I'm digging it. :). This is probably going to be very neat to do >> >> I'm thinking a live track or 2. >> >> Now how does this normally work? I've never done this before... 😁. I just add 3 tracks of my choice after yours and we are set to mail to the next guy? . Are there some rules of engagement? >> >> Thanks! This sounds like fun. >> >> >> ========---------------------------------------------------------========= >> Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com >> ========---------------------------------------------------------========= >> Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist >> Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >> ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > From naktalk at lists.naks.com Tue Jun 8 04:23:57 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Jeff Ringer via Naktalk) Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2021 21:23:57 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Pro Chrome traveling tape In-Reply-To: References: <1621658488.qhs531z9r4gkcw4s@webmail.sasktel.net> Message-ID: Forgot to add my address Jeff Ringer PO Box 1264 Norman, OK 73070 > On May 22, 2021, at 1:15 AM, Jeff Ringer wrote: > > I can add a bootleg The Cure, or bootleg R.E.M. if anyone is interested. > >> On May 21, 2021, at 11:41 PM, Joy-Ell & Rainer via Naktalk wrote: >> >> >> So I tried to send this off today but it didn't fit through the letter mail size slot so would have been $15 instead of $2 so I took it back and repacked without a case but just the tape inside a antistatic bag inside a padded envelope which puts it well under the size limit so hopefully cheaper for other countries as well. >> It's a C-90 so lots of room , anyone else want to add some tracks ? >> Would be pretty cool if this could get to Hawaii, Austria, Australia, India and as many countries as possible! :) >> Daniel, a live track and/or non Nak track would be pretty cool too! >> If anyone wants to digitize along the way and post a link better yet! :) >> >> Cheers, >> Rainer S. (80steck0 >> >> -------- Original Message -------- >> Subject: Re: Pro Chrome traveling tape >> Date: Fri, 21 May 2021 16:41:37 -0400 >> From: Daniel Botelho >> To: Joy-Ell & Rainer >> >> >> That is pretty straightforward. :) >> >> Not sure if my Dragon is up to snuff, but I guess we will see. My tascam 122MKII is a great recording deck as well as my pioneer CT-A9X, but may as well keep it in the nak family. 😎 >> >> Great stuff. I'll try the 70 vs 120us, as I've heard many great things from using it. >> >> Will probably do a vinyl drop. Maybe 2 . 😁 >> >> >> >> >> >> Original Message >> >> >> From: joyell.solie at sasktel.net >> Sent: May 21, 2021 4:13 p.m. >> To: daniel.botelho at gmail.com >> Reply to: joyell.solie at sasktel.net >> Subject: Re: Pro Chrome traveling tape >> >> >> Yep, just put yours on after mine and pass it forward. ( I'm thinking keep things in order of who chimes in when) >> Whatever you want to do for recordings Daniel. I haven't done one of these before either so kinda making this up as we go! ;) >> >> >> >> On Fri, 21 May 2021 16:01:26 -0400, Daniel Botelho wrote: >> >> Okay, I'm digging it. :). This is probably going to be very neat to do >> >> I'm thinking a live track or 2. >> >> Now how does this normally work? I've never done this before... 😁. I just add 3 tracks of my choice after yours and we are set to mail to the next guy? . Are there some rules of engagement? >> >> Thanks! This sounds like fun. >> >> >> ========---------------------------------------------------------========= >> Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com >> ========---------------------------------------------------------========= >> Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist >> Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >> ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > From naktalk at lists.naks.com Tue Jun 8 11:14:36 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (=?iso-8859-2?B?S/NzYSBKZW71?= via Naktalk) Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2021 11:14:36 +0200 Subject: [naktalk] Dragon PB-Head-Issue Message-ID: <004201d75c46$b4183370$1c489a50$@hu> Hi, I bought a completely novel Dragon. He has problems with the Azimuth alignment. Even without a cassette, if play in the RW direction. At first I suspected some kind of contact error. The PB head has become suspicious. I measured it and it turned out that the fault was in the head. The RW coil of the Right channel appears to be torn, the middle branch and the end of the coil show 75 Ohm, but when measured from the body it indicates a rupture, or not, because it can measure about plus 120 Ohm during movement, the measured values from the body 195 and 270 ohms. What do you think can be done? Regards Jeno -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Wed Jun 9 17:54:33 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Tom Brucker via Naktalk) Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2021 10:54:33 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Dragon PB-Head-Issue In-Reply-To: <004201d75c46$b4183370$1c489a50$@hu> References: <004201d75c46$b4183370$1c489a50$@hu> Message-ID: The head has a center tapped coil, so it is normal to read 120 ohm and 60 ohm. If the azimuth motor runs to its end and clicks in reverse play, dirt, alignment, or orange cap problems are all known problems. Do you know if the deck has ever had prior service? On Tue, Jun 8, 2021, 4:26 AM Kósa Jenő via Naktalk wrote: > Hi, > > I bought a completely novel Dragon. He has problems with the Azimuth > alignment. Even without a cassette, if play in the RW direction. At first I > suspected some kind of contact error. The PB head has become suspicious. I > measured it and it turned out that the fault was in the head. The RW coil > of the Right channel appears to be torn, the middle branch and the end of > the coil show 75 Ohm, but when measured from the body it indicates a > rupture, or not, because it can measure about plus 120 Ohm during movement, > the measured values from the body 195 and 270 ohms. What do you think can > be done? > > Regards > > Jeno > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Wed Jun 9 14:13:04 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (martin ferreira via Naktalk) Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2021 12:13:04 +0000 Subject: [naktalk] Bx 150E no response Message-ID: Hi. there is no response to any command buttons on the BX150. it turns on idler is gear type motors checked with 9V battery and are working. any clues? Martin Ferreira -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Thu Jun 10 14:38:51 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Perry.nak via Naktalk) Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2021 08:38:51 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] Dragon PB head issues Message-ID: It sounds like you do not understand the Dragons head arrangement. It is best you do not try to cure the problem yourself. The right channels are split in two,so there are a total of 6 channels, with the azimuth comparator channel being a small gap of the right channel, relative to the play gap. They would not have equal coil impedances. It is rare to find a Dragon play head problem, besides being worn, as they were so expensive to manufacture that they had a very high QC. There are about 20 other things that are much more likely to be the cause. Send it to a qualified experienced Nakamichi technician before you turn a $2000 tape deck in to a parts unit. Sent from my iPhone From naktalk at lists.naks.com Thu Jun 10 15:46:56 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (=?UTF-8?B?S8Ozc2EgSmVuxZE=?= via Naktalk) Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2021 15:46:56 +0200 Subject: [naktalk] Dragon PB head issues In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <006201d75dff$1440e580$3cc2b080$@hu> Hi Perry, I understand the structure and operation of the Dragon head! And I also know how Azimuth works! I was trying to describe that the head is faulty, namely the split coils of the right channel and the contact are faulty! The specialist is myself, so I try to solder the coil ends. Looks like I caught the only faulty Dragon head, even though the machine's serial number is over 30,000! Anyway, thanks for the answers! -----Original Message----- From: Naktalk [mailto:naktalk-bounces at lists.naks.com] On Behalf Of Perry.nak via Naktalk Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2021 2:39 PM To: naktalk at lists.naks.com Subject: [naktalk] Dragon PB head issues It sounds like you do not understand the Dragons head arrangement. It is best you do not try to cure the problem yourself. The right channels are split in two,so there are a total of 6 channels, with the azimuth comparator channel being a small gap of the right channel, relative to the play gap. They would not have equal coil impedances. It is rare to find a Dragon play head problem, besides being worn, as they were so expensive to manufacture that they had a very high QC. There are about 20 other things that are much more likely to be the cause. Send it to a qualified experienced Nakamichi technician before you turn a $2000 tape deck in to a parts unit. Sent from my iPhone ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= From naktalk at lists.naks.com Thu Jun 10 16:17:59 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Vesselin Uzunov via Naktalk) Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2021 10:17:59 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] Tapeheads Tape, Audio and Music Forums - Re: Nakamichi zx7 IC601 References: <3E80F6FD-142B-4733-93D0-A76434C42718.ref@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <3E80F6FD-142B-4733-93D0-A76434C42718@yahoo.com> https://www.tapeheads.net/private.php?do=showpm&pmid=389677 Здравей Ники, Току що се върнах от двудневно гости в Поморие и ще бъда кратък защото както на телефона така и на този таблет батериите трябва да се заредят. Попитах Пери и Вернер за снабдяване с въпросната интеграла LM6402A-048. Пери не ми отговори макар че е в течение на нещата с zx7. Навярно той вижда че се обаждам от БГ........ И мен ме е яд че ме подценяват . Не зная дали вече може да говориш по телефона,но това с което си ме накастрил в последния емайл вече го дискутирахме в предишните емайли. Мислиш ли че имам друга възможност ,тъй като Пери в един от последните си постове в Т.Н. пишеше как в 2009 успял да купи тези специални инструменти тогава разпродавани в eBay заедно с някои от другите професори. Те много бързо били изкупени на цени около $2000. Ще дискутираме отново тези въпроси допълнително следващите дни защото батерията е на 8% и ми дав сигнали. Това за сега . Трябва да намерим начин да се снабдя с интегралата за която Пери обещаваше че може да се намери. Sent from my iPad From naktalk at lists.naks.com Sat Jun 12 00:18:27 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Roland via Naktalk) Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2021 18:18:27 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] ZX-9 and Nakamichi Dragon References: <1088f0d3-122a-7a98-7879-9a5f1889f8ea.ref@verizon.net> Message-ID: <1088f0d3-122a-7a98-7879-9a5f1889f8ea@verizon.net> To all, I've forgotten from discussions year ago that showed a progression from earlier Nakamichi deck to the Dragon and CR7. Is the ZX series the predecessors to the Dragon, that is, just with the NAAC? From naktalk at lists.naks.com Sun Jun 13 01:43:25 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Daniel Botelho via Naktalk) Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2021 19:43:25 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] Pro Chrome traveling tape In-Reply-To: <1623119560.1p5ecqotwkcggs8c@webmail.sasktel.net> References: <1621658488.qhs531z9r4gkcw4s@webmail.sasktel.net> <1623119560.1p5ecqotwkcggs8c@webmail.sasktel.net> Message-ID: Hey guys, I got a message from perry at tapeheads...and he has received the tape and had some nice things to say about it, but I didn't see the post, as for some reason gmail has been sending some of the posts to the spam folder. Did any of you get his post? (Or am I missing something?) Thanks! Dan On Mon, Jun 7, 2021 at 10:32 PM Joy-Ell & Rainer via Naktalk < naktalk at lists.naks.com> wrote: > Thanks Jeff! :) > I'm a big fan of both the Cure and R.E.M. so looking forward to your > contribution! > > > Cheers, > Rainer S. (80stech) > > On Mon, 7 Jun 2021 21:23:57 -0500, Jeff Ringer > wrote: > > Forgot to add my address > > Jeff Ringer > PO Box 1264 > Norman, OK 73070 > > > On May 22, 2021, at 1:15 AM, Jeff Ringer wrote: > > > > I can add a bootleg The Cure, or bootleg R.E.M. if anyone is interested. > > > >> On May 21, 2021, at 11:41 PM, Joy-Ell & Rainer via Naktalk wrote: > >> > >> > >> So I tried to send this off today but it didn't fit through the letter > mail size slot so would have been $15 instead of $2 so I took it back and > repacked without a case but just the tape inside a antistatic bag inside a > padded envelope which puts it well under the size limit so hopefully > cheaper for other countries as well. > >> It's a C-90 so lots of room , anyone else want to add some tracks ? > >> Would be pretty cool if this could get to Hawaii, Austria, Australia, > India and as many countries as possible! :) > >> Daniel, a live track and/or non Nak track would be pretty cool too! > >> If anyone wants to digitize along the way and post a link better yet! :) > >> > >> Cheers, > >> Rainer S. (80steck0 > >> > >> -------- Original Message -------- > >> Subject: Re: Pro Chrome traveling tape > >> Date: Fri, 21 May 2021 16:41:37 -0400 > >> From: Daniel Botelho > >> To: Joy-Ell & Rainer > >> > >> > >> That is pretty straightforward. :) > >> > >> Not sure if my Dragon is up to snuff, but I guess we will see. My > tascam 122MKII is a great recording deck as well as my pioneer CT-A9X, but > may as well keep it in the nak family. 😎 > >> > >> Great stuff. I'll try the 70 vs 120us, as I've heard many great things > from using it. > >> > >> Will probably do a vinyl drop. Maybe 2 . 😁 > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Original Message > >> > >> > >> From: joyell.solie at sasktel.net > >> Sent: May 21, 2021 4:13 p.m. > >> To: daniel.botelho at gmail.com > >> Reply to: joyell.solie at sasktel.net > >> Subject: Re: Pro Chrome traveling tape > >> > >> > >> Yep, just put yours on after mine and pass it forward. ( I'm thinking > keep things in order of who chimes in when) > >> Whatever you want to do for recordings Daniel. I haven't done one of > these before either so kinda making this up as we go! ;) > >> > >> > >> > >> On Fri, 21 May 2021 16:01:26 -0400, Daniel Botelho wrote: > >> > >> Okay, I'm digging it. :). This is probably going to be very neat to do > >> > >> I'm thinking a live track or 2. > >> > >> Now how does this normally work? I've never done this before... 😁. I > just add 3 tracks of my choice after yours and we are set to mail to the > next guy? . Are there some rules of engagement? > >> > >> Thanks! 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URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Sun Jun 13 02:10:50 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Daniel Botelho via Naktalk) Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2021 20:10:50 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] Pro Chrome traveling tape In-Reply-To: <1795766859.302567.1623541884548@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <0ii5q52c9l0pcmcbkfvj3acb.1623543050955@gmail.com> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Sun Jun 13 02:31:34 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Joy-Ell & Rainer via Naktalk) Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2021 20:31:34 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] Pro Chrome traveling tape In-Reply-To: <0ii5q52c9l0pcmcbkfvj3acb.1623543050955@gmail.com> References: <1795766859.302567.1623541884548@mail.yahoo.com> <0ii5q52c9l0pcmcbkfvj3acb.1623543050955@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1623544294.3tpk09s4yskss0oc@webmail.sasktel.net>   Good news that Perry got the tape! :)   No, I haven't seen a post from him or the one from William that is being referred to. I have no problem putting William to the bottom of the list with the understanding that it would depend on what space is left on the tape. Daniel, if you want to start a spread sheet that would be OK but I also am good with just keeping track of everything with posts on Naktalk. Maybe if there is no room for William or anyone else who chimes in on this tape they could go to the top of the list for the next tape ;)  On Sat, 12 Jun 2021 20:10:50 -0400, Daniel Botelho via Naktalk wrote:   I don't think it's a membership to be honest.  😊   But here is how it works:   The first person - Rainer has provided a blank tape. (Brand new pure chrome tape.  Good stuff!)    He then puts 2 songs on the tape.  Uses his nice nak deck, puts the tape in the mail (airmail postage is sufficient) to the next person.    The next person records 2 songs after the last person,  and then forwards it to the next person via air mail, etc.   It's a 90 min tape, that is being sent from person to person, so I'm not sure if there is enough space on the tape.   I believe we have 8 people at the moment, and we might have room for another.  I'll leave it to Rainier to decide.   On another note, it might be ideal to get a tracking spreadsheet ( Google sheet?) to track the whereabouts of the tape as well as the track listings,  notes, etc.  I can get one going if you guys don't mind.     Either way it looks promising so far!  😎     From: xtrawj at yahoo.com Sent: June 12, 2021 7:51 p.m. To: daniel.botelho at gmail.com Reply to: xtrawj at yahoo.com Subject: Re: [naktalk] Pro Chrome traveling tape   Hi there-- how do you become a member of the travel tape? Zx-7 here-- thanks William                       On Saturday, June 12, 2021, 06:43:43 PM CDT, Daniel Botelho via Naktalk wrote:                    Hey guys,   I got a message from perry at tapeheads...and he has received the tape and had some nice things to say about it, but I didn't see the post, as for some reason gmail has been sending some of the posts to the spam folder.   Did any of you get his post?  (Or am I missing something?)   Thanks!   Dan   On Mon, Jun 7, 2021 at 10:32 PM Joy-Ell & Rainer via Naktalk wrote: Thanks Jeff! :) I'm a big fan of both the Cure and R.E.M. so looking forward to your contribution! Cheers, Rainer S. (80stech) On Mon, 7 Jun 2021 21:23:57 -0500, Jeff Ringer wrote: Forgot to add my address Jeff Ringer PO Box 1264 Norman, OK 73070 > On May 22, 2021, at 1:15 AM, Jeff Ringer wrote: > > I can add a bootleg The Cure, or bootleg R.E.M. if anyone is interested. > >> On May 21, 2021, at 11:41 PM, Joy-Ell & Rainer via Naktalk wrote: >> >> >> So I tried to send this off today but it didn't fit through the letter mail size slot so would have been $15 instead of $2 so I took it back and repacked without a case but just the tape inside a antistatic bag inside a padded envelope which puts it well under the size limit so hopefully cheaper for other countries as well. >> It's a C-90 so lots of room , anyone else want to add some tracks ? >> Would be pretty cool if this could get to Hawaii, Austria, Australia, India and as many countries as possible! :) >> Daniel, a live track and/or non Nak track would be pretty cool too! >> If anyone wants to digitize along the way and post a link better yet! :) >> >> Cheers, >> Rainer S. (80steck0 >> >> -------- Original Message -------- >> Subject: Re: Pro Chrome traveling tape >> Date: Fri, 21 May 2021 16:41:37 -0400 >> From: Daniel Botelho >> To: Joy-Ell & Rainer >> >> >> That is pretty straightforward. :) >> >> Not sure if my Dragon is up to snuff, but I guess we will see. My tascam 122MKII is a great recording deck as well as my pioneer CT-A9X, but may as well keep it in the nak family. 😎 >> >> Great stuff. I'll try the 70 vs 120us, as I've heard many great things from using it. >> >> Will probably do a vinyl drop. Maybe 2 . 😁 >> >> >> >> >> >> Original Message >> >> >> From: joyell.solie at sasktel.net >> Sent: May 21, 2021 4:13 p.m. >> To: daniel.botelho at gmail.com >> Reply to: joyell.solie at sasktel.net >> Subject: Re: Pro Chrome traveling tape >> >> >> Yep, just put yours on after mine and pass it forward. ( I'm thinking keep things in order of who chimes in when) >> Whatever you want to do for recordings Daniel. I haven't done one of these before either so kinda making this up as we go! ;) >> >> >> >> On Fri, 21 May 2021 16:01:26 -0400, Daniel Botelho wrote: >> >> Okay, I'm digging it. :). This is probably going to be very neat to do >> >> I'm thinking a live track or 2. >> >> Now how does this normally work? I've never done this before... 😁. I just add 3 tracks of my choice after yours and we are set to mail to the next guy? . Are there some rules of engagement? >> >> Thanks! 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URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Sat Jun 12 16:33:13 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Perry.nak via Naktalk) Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2021 10:33:13 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] Traveling Chrome Tape Message-ID: <44396E2B-8450-4000-B88E-BC786F070542@comcast.net> I received & listened to the selections/recordings by Rainer & Daniel and color me impressed with the selections, quality of sources, and the ATR Chrome tape in general. Levels are higher than I normally use for chrome with no NR, but obviously this tape handles it with aplomb. This is perhaps the first chrome tape where I can agree that no Dolby is absolutely acceptable. I listened to it on one of my 680zx that I had recently refreshed and is as spot on and perfect as is possible, with Sennheiser HD600’s and hiss is pretty non-existent. Clarity and balance are excellent. However, we need to clarify some things. With the tape, there should be a list of the songs & artists & source (LP, CD, Tape, digital) and deck recorded on, and we have to agree on settings. Am I to assume that both of you used 70uS and no NR with SX eq, or 120uS with SX? I enjoy bright recordings and besides the Beach Boys “Good Vibrations” was not familiar with any of the artists. And that fantastic version of Good Vibrations, I have never heard, & am extremely curious as to source, BTW! So it was impossible for me to tell if 120uS was used or 70uS, as to me, with those selections, playing on 120us sounds obviously brighter to me and could be correct, as the 680zx is distinctly IEC1, showing +dB at 18kHz on an IEC2 sweep tape. Many decks, like the CR-7, will only be +3dB, same conditions, so that 680zx may be too bright. Sent from my iPhone From naktalk at lists.naks.com Sun Jun 13 08:41:51 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Jeff Ringer via Naktalk) Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2021 01:41:51 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Traveling Chrome Tape In-Reply-To: <44396E2B-8450-4000-B88E-BC786F070542@comcast.net> References: <44396E2B-8450-4000-B88E-BC786F070542@comcast.net> Message-ID: <02050FC9-2E2E-4696-A630-1C786B56C0D6@yahoo.com> Just a quick thought…why don’t we make a playlist of what has been recorded after the tape has reached its end? > On Jun 12, 2021, at 9:33 AM, Perry.nak via Naktalk wrote: > > I received & listened to the selections/recordings by Rainer & Daniel and color me impressed with the selections, quality of sources, and the ATR Chrome tape in general. Levels are higher than I normally use for chrome with no NR, but obviously this tape handles it with aplomb. > > This is perhaps the first chrome tape where I can agree that no Dolby is absolutely acceptable. I listened to it on one of my 680zx that I had recently refreshed and is as spot on and perfect as is possible, with Sennheiser HD600’s and hiss is pretty non-existent. Clarity and balance are excellent. > > However, we need to clarify some things. With the tape, there should be a list of the songs & artists & source (LP, CD, Tape, digital) and deck recorded on, and we have to agree on settings. Am I to assume that both of you used 70uS and no NR with SX eq, or 120uS with SX? > > I enjoy bright recordings and besides the Beach Boys “Good Vibrations” was not familiar with any of the artists. And that fantastic version of Good Vibrations, I have never heard, & am extremely curious as to source, BTW! So it was impossible for me to tell if 120uS was used or 70uS, as to me, with those selections, playing on 120us sounds obviously brighter to me and could be correct, as the 680zx is distinctly IEC1, showing +dB at 18kHz on an IEC2 sweep tape. Many decks, like the CR-7, will only be +3dB, same conditions, so that 680zx may be too bright. > > Sent from my iPhone > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= From naktalk at lists.naks.com Sun Jun 13 10:14:19 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Joy-Ell & Rainer via Naktalk) Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2021 04:14:19 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] Pro Chrome Traveling Tape In-Reply-To: <44396E2B-8450-4000-B88E-BC786F070542@comcast.net> References: <44396E2B-8450-4000-B88E-BC786F070542@comcast.net> Message-ID: <1623572059.6c7fd6gpggkccsoo@webmail.sasktel.net> Hi Perry, we have been keeping track of the details in Naktalk posts so far, maybe you haven't been getting those? They should be in the archives. So far it's been 70 uS on SX, but I said it was up to what ever anyone wanted as long as it was kept track of and I would playback accordingly for digitizing. Just post when you're done adding your recordings and send it on to next person on the list. "Good Vibrations" is from "California Project" by a band called "Papa Doo Run Run." It's a TelArc recording from the early 80's and I think was one of the first audiophile (maybe first direct to disc??) CDs. Many stereo shops used it as their demo disc back then.   The tape hiss goes really quiet with Dolby C but I couldn't get myself to use it but you are welcome to if you would like.   Cheers, Rainer S.   On Sat, 12 Jun 2021 10:33:13 -0400, "Perry.nak via Naktalk" wrote: I received & listened to the selections/recordings by Rainer & Daniel and color me impressed with the selections, quality of sources, and the ATR Chrome tape in general. Levels are higher than I normally use for chrome with no NR, but obviously this tape handles it with aplomb. This is perhaps the first chrome tape where I can agree that no Dolby is absolutely acceptable. I listened to it on one of my 680zx that I had recently refreshed and is as spot on and perfect as is possible, with Sennheiser HD600’s and hiss is pretty non-existent. Clarity and balance are excellent. However, we need to clarify some things. With the tape, there should be a list of the songs & artists & source (LP, CD, Tape, digital) and deck recorded on, and we have to agree on settings. Am I to assume that both of you used 70uS and no NR with SX eq, or 120uS with SX? I enjoy bright recordings and besides the Beach Boys “Good Vibrations” was not familiar with any of the artists. And that fantastic version of Good Vibrations, I have never heard, & am extremely curious as to source, BTW! So it was impossible for me to tell if 120uS was used or 70uS, as to me, with those selections, playing on 120us sounds obviously brighter to me and could be correct, as the 680zx is distinctly IEC1, showing +dB at 18kHz on an IEC2 sweep tape. Many decks, like the CR-7, will only be +3dB, same conditions, so that 680zx may be too bright. Sent from my iPhone ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------=========   From naktalk at lists.naks.com Sun Jun 13 14:31:36 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Perry.nak via Naktalk) Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2021 08:31:36 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] Chrome Travel Tape Message-ID: <6F411D66-811B-45E2-B7C8-B671826DF00C@comcast.net> Haha, well, the joke is in me, as I already own the Sound of Nakamichi tape of California Project. But it is still sealed!! I had been hoping to find the non-Nak Telarc tape, so that I didn’t have to open the SON one. Here’s a good example of when common sense and obsession clash and the loser is me! The tape is perhaps worth $50 less if I remove the shrink wrap. But who am I saving it for?? I would only see that $50 if I were to sell the tape, which is so unlikely to be laughable. I have a few sealed SON tapes but all the others are duplicates of open I play. I assumed the plan is to make a CD, and cassette copies of the traveling tape, as that is what was done in the other Naktalk traveling tape. Since the people early on in the tapes travel never get to hear all subsequent tracks. Typically, one would send blank cassette they want used and postage to the person with the tape, if they agree to dub it, or, a few bucks for a CD copy sent to them and they just make their own tape. So Rainer, there is a list of artists, songs title, source, and decks recorded on, on a running list in Naktalk?? I haven’t seen it. Sent from my iPhone From naktalk at lists.naks.com Sun Jun 13 15:54:26 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Joy-Ell & Rainer via Naktalk) Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2021 09:54:26 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] Pro Chrome travelling tape In-Reply-To: <6F411D66-811B-45E2-B7C8-B671826DF00C@comcast.net> References: <6F411D66-811B-45E2-B7C8-B671826DF00C@comcast.net> Message-ID: <1623592466.mfuoija4g000okcg@webmail.sasktel.net> Hi Perry, I had no idea that also was on a sound of Nakamichi series tape. That would sure be interesting to hear the difference! Give us a review if you break the seal! :) So far Daniel and I have posted our recording details and a few people have posted on what they might do but not everything on one post. Daniel offered maybe to do a Google sheets which might be good at the end (as Jeff mentioned) to have all the info on one sheet. My plan was to digitize into a file with my Dragon and then provide the file so that anyone can use or copy to what ever format they like. I could dub tape or burn CDs if need be if there are people that can't deal with the file version. Cheers, Rainer On Sun, 13 Jun 2021 08:31:36 -0400, "Perry.nak via Naktalk" wrote: Haha, well, the joke is in me, as I already own the Sound of Nakamichi tape of California Project. But it is still sealed!! I had been hoping to find the non-Nak Telarc tape, so that I didn’t have to open the SON one. Here’s a good example of when common sense and obsession clash and the loser is me! The tape is perhaps worth $50 less if I remove the shrink wrap. But who am I saving it for?? I would only see that $50 if I were to sell the tape, which is so unlikely to be laughable. I have a few sealed SON tapes but all the others are duplicates of open I play. I assumed the plan is to make a CD, and cassette copies of the traveling tape, as that is what was done in the other Naktalk traveling tape. Since the people early on in the tapes travel never get to hear all subsequent tracks. Typically, one would send blank cassette they want used and postage to the person with the tape, if they agree to dub it, or, a few bucks for a CD copy sent to them and they just make their own tape. So Rainer, there is a list of artists, songs title, source, and decks recorded on, on a running list in Naktalk?? I haven’t seen it. Sent from my iPhone ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= From naktalk at lists.naks.com Sun Jun 13 16:51:20 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Quincy via Naktalk) Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2021 09:51:20 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] National Audio Company C256 Message-ID: Has anyone here tried the National Audio Company new C256 tape yet? I ordered a carton out of curiosity. On their website it states to watch out their C756™ Cobalt Type II tape coming in January, 2021. I wonder if 2021 is a typo for 2022. I really hope they actually manufacture a Type ll tape as I need a bulk supply for my multi track tape machines. 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(or if you have an email address, I can update the google sheet with updating rights) https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/15YQ34cXGoXKMemBD6nbT3Q8Se3pBDm9XLFeCAAorjnU/edit?usp=sharing On Sun, Jun 13, 2021 at 9:54 AM Joy-Ell & Rainer via Naktalk < naktalk at lists.naks.com> wrote: > Hi Perry, I had no idea that also was on a sound of Nakamichi series tape. > That would sure be interesting to hear the difference! Give us a review if > you break the seal! :) So far Daniel and I have posted our recording > details and a few people have posted on what they might do but not > everything on one post. Daniel offered maybe to do a Google sheets which > might be good at the end (as Jeff mentioned) to have all the info on one > sheet. My plan was to digitize into a file with my Dragon and then provide > the file so that anyone can use or copy to what ever format they like. I > could dub tape or burn CDs if need be if there are people that can't deal > with the file version. > > > Cheers, > Rainer > > > On Sun, 13 Jun 2021 08:31:36 -0400, "Perry.nak via Naktalk" < > naktalk at lists.naks.com> wrote: > > Haha, well, the joke is in me, as I already own the Sound of Nakamichi > tape of California Project. But it is still sealed!! I had been hoping to > find the non-Nak Telarc tape, so that I didn’t have to open the SON one. > Here’s a good example of when common sense and obsession clash and the > loser is me! The tape is perhaps worth $50 less if I remove the shrink > wrap. But who am I saving it for?? I would only see that $50 if I were to > sell the tape, which is so unlikely to be laughable. I have a few sealed > SON tapes but all the others are duplicates of open I play. > > I assumed the plan is to make a CD, and cassette copies of the traveling > tape, as that is what was done in the other Naktalk traveling tape. 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(or if you have an email address, I can update the google sheet with updating rights) > https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/15YQ34cXGoXKMemBD6nbT3Q8Se3pBDm9XLFeCAAorjnU/edit?usp=sharing > On Sun, Jun 13, 2021 at 9:54 AM Joy-Ell & Rainer via Naktalk > wrote: > Hi Perry, I had no idea that also was on a sound of Nakamichi series tape. That would sure be interesting to hear the difference! Give us a review if you break the seal! :) So far Daniel and I have posted our recording details and a few people have posted on what they might do but not everything on one post. Daniel offered maybe to do a Google sheets which might be good at the end (as Jeff mentioned) to have all the info on one sheet. My plan was to digitize into a file with my Dragon and then provide the file so that anyone can use or copy to what ever format they like. I could dub tape or burn CDs if need be if there are people that can't deal with the file version. > > > Cheers, > Rainer > > > On Sun, 13 Jun 2021 08:31:36 -0400, "Perry.nak via Naktalk" > wrote: > > Haha, well, the joke is in me, as I already own the Sound of Nakamichi tape of California Project. But it is still sealed!! I had been hoping to find the non-Nak Telarc tape, so that I didn’t have to open the SON one. Here’s a good example of when common sense and obsession clash and the loser is me! The tape is perhaps worth $50 less if I remove the shrink wrap. But who am I saving it for?? I would only see that $50 if I were to sell the tape, which is so unlikely to be laughable. I have a few sealed SON tapes but all the others are duplicates of open I play. > > I assumed the plan is to make a CD, and cassette copies of the traveling tape, as that is what was done in the other Naktalk traveling tape. Since the people early on in the tapes travel never get to hear all subsequent tracks. Typically, one would send blank cassette they want used and postage to the person with the tape, if they agree to dub it, or, a few bucks for a CD copy sent to them and they just make their own tape. > > So Rainer, there is a list of artists, songs title, source, and decks recorded on, on a running list in Naktalk?? 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Sent from my iPad From naktalk at lists.naks.com Mon Jun 21 00:45:50 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Miroslav Tkachenko via Naktalk) Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2021 22:45:50 +0000 Subject: [naktalk] Chrome Travel Tape In-Reply-To: <6F411D66-811B-45E2-B7C8-B671826DF00C@comcast.net> References: <6F411D66-811B-45E2-B7C8-B671826DF00C@comcast.net> Message-ID: Dears, I have to back off from participating ( as recording) in travel tape project as recovering from hip surgery replacement. However I would be interested in getting Cd and cassette copies of final result ( if that possible). I can pail blank cassette and pay pal needed exes. Best Regards, Miroslav Tkachenko 80 Via Borghese, Woodbridge, Ontario, L4H 0Y6, Canada Cell/ Whatsapp +1-647 4095666 Skype - miroslavt1208 Facebook - facebook.com/miroslav.tkachenko.9 Instagram - miroslavt2018​ Twitter - @miroslavt https://myspace.com/opiumsongs ________________________________ From: Naktalk on behalf of Perry.nak via Naktalk Sent: June 13, 2021 8:31 AM To: Naktalk at lists.naks.com Subject: [naktalk] Chrome Travel Tape Haha, well, the joke is in me, as I already own the Sound of Nakamichi tape of California Project. But it is still sealed!! I had been hoping to find the non-Nak Telarc tape, so that I didn’t have to open the SON one. Here’s a good example of when common sense and obsession clash and the loser is me! The tape is perhaps worth $50 less if I remove the shrink wrap. But who am I saving it for?? I would only see that $50 if I were to sell the tape, which is so unlikely to be laughable. I have a few sealed SON tapes but all the others are duplicates of open I play. I assumed the plan is to make a CD, and cassette copies of the traveling tape, as that is what was done in the other Naktalk traveling tape. Since the people early on in the tapes travel never get to hear all subsequent tracks. Typically, one would send blank cassette they want used and postage to the person with the tape, if they agree to dub it, or, a few bucks for a CD copy sent to them and they just make their own tape. So Rainer, there is a list of artists, songs title, source, and decks recorded on, on a running list in Naktalk?? I haven’t seen it. 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URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Mon Jun 21 17:34:42 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Joy-Ell & Rainer via Naktalk) Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2021 11:34:42 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] Chrome Travel Tape In-Reply-To: References: <6F411D66-811B-45E2-B7C8-B671826DF00C@comcast.net> Message-ID: <1624289682.o86hcnx2ckk88o0k@webmail.sasktel.net> No problem Miroslav, maybe you can get back in at a later time. Either way we will still make sure you get a copy which ever way you like.  Rainer   On Sun, 20 Jun 2021 22:45:50 +0000, Miroslav Tkachenko via Naktalk wrote:   Dears,   I have to back off from participating ( as recording) in travel tape project as recovering from hip surgery replacement. However I would be interested in getting Cd and cassette copies of final result ( if that possible). I can pail blank cassette and pay pal needed exes.           Best Regards,   Miroslav Tkachenko 80 Via Borghese, Woodbridge, Ontario, L4H 0Y6, Canada   Cell/ Whatsapp +1-647 4095666                 Skype - miroslavt1208 Facebook - facebook.com/miroslav.tkachenko.9 Instagram - miroslavt2018​ Twitter - @miroslavt https://myspace.com/opiumsongs   From: Naktalk on behalf of Perry.nak via Naktalk Sent: June 13, 2021 8:31 AM To: Naktalk at lists.naks.com Subject: [naktalk] Chrome Travel Tape   Haha, well, the joke is in me, as I already own the Sound of Nakamichi tape of California Project. But it is still sealed!! I had been hoping to find the non-Nak Telarc tape, so that I didn’t have to open the SON one. Here’s a good example of when common sense and obsession clash and the loser is me!  The tape is perhaps worth $50 less if I remove the shrink wrap. But who am I saving it for?? I would only see that $50 if I were to sell the tape, which is so unlikely to be laughable. I have a few sealed SON tapes but all the others are duplicates of open I play. I assumed the plan is to make a CD, and cassette copies of the traveling tape, as that is what was done in the other Naktalk traveling tape. Since the people early on in the tapes travel never get to hear all subsequent tracks. Typically, one would send blank cassette they want used and postage to the person with the tape, if they agree to dub it, or, a few bucks for a CD copy sent to them and they just make their own tape. So Rainer, there is a list of artists, songs title, source, and decks recorded on, on a running list in Naktalk?? I haven’t seen it. 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URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Mon Jun 21 17:50:19 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Les Morgan via Naktalk) Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2021 11:50:19 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] Chrome Travel Tape In-Reply-To: <1624289682.o86hcnx2ckk88o0k@webmail.sasktel.net> References: <1624289682.o86hcnx2ckk88o0k@webmail.sasktel.net> Message-ID: <373C81CE-40A6-4197-BB66-921C0B2522E0@twc.com> Speedy and full recovery prayers for you, sir! Pax Domini Sit Semper Vobiscum Et Illegitimi Non Carborundum Les > On Jun 21, 2021, at 11:42 AM, Joy-Ell & Rainer via Naktalk wrote: > >  > No problem Miroslav, maybe you can get back in at a later time. Either way we will still make sure you get a copy which ever way you like. > > Rainer > > > On Sun, 20 Jun 2021 22:45:50 +0000, Miroslav Tkachenko via Naktalk wrote: > > Dears, > > I have to back off from participating ( as recording) in travel tape project as recovering from hip surgery replacement. > However I would be interested in getting Cd and cassette copies of final result ( if that possible). I can pail blank cassette and pay pal needed exes. > > > > > > Best Regards, > > Miroslav Tkachenko > 80 Via Borghese, Woodbridge, > Ontario, L4H 0Y6, Canada > Cell/ Whatsapp +1-647 4095666 > > > Skype - miroslavt1208 > Facebook - facebook.com/miroslav.tkachenko.9 > Instagram - miroslavt2018​ > Twitter - @miroslavt > https://myspace.com/opiumsongs > > From: Naktalk on behalf of Perry.nak via Naktalk > Sent: June 13, 2021 8:31 AM > To: Naktalk at lists.naks.com > Subject: [naktalk] Chrome Travel Tape > > Haha, well, the joke is in me, as I already own the Sound of Nakamichi tape of California Project. But it is still sealed!! I had been hoping to find the non-Nak Telarc tape, so that I didn’t have to open the SON one. Here’s a good example of when common sense and obsession clash and the loser is me! The tape is perhaps worth $50 less if I remove the shrink wrap. But who am I saving it for?? I would only see that $50 if I were to sell the tape, which is so unlikely to be laughable. I have a few sealed SON tapes but all the others are duplicates of open I play. > > I assumed the plan is to make a CD, and cassette copies of the traveling tape, as that is what was done in the other Naktalk traveling tape. Since the people early on in the tapes travel never get to hear all subsequent tracks. Typically, one would send blank cassette they want used and postage to the person with the tape, if they agree to dub it, or, a few bucks for a CD copy sent to them and they just make their own tape. > > So Rainer, there is a list of artists, songs title, source, and decks recorded on, on a running list in Naktalk?? I haven’t seen it. > > Sent from my iPhone > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Also check out the wiki! https://apac01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwiki.naks.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C22979733aaa64e7f110a08d92e67347c%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637591843074668732%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=B9qopJehxIr0VJE5cgBzIHxJ%2FK0n%2BRtUC1S7KCrc2FY%3D&reserved=0 > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: https://apac01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists.naks.com%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fnaktalk&data=04%7C01%7C%7C22979733aaa64e7f110a08d92e67347c%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637591843074678691%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=vx9Amm%2Bu6OAoVRBFpsmKcz1kwvIBTIfcIRNqLJDPaok%3D&reserved=0 > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Mon Jun 21 18:58:49 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Miroslav Tkachenko via Naktalk) Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2021 16:58:49 +0000 Subject: [naktalk] Chrome Travel Tape In-Reply-To: <373C81CE-40A6-4197-BB66-921C0B2522E0@twc.com> References: <1624289682.o86hcnx2ckk88o0k@webmail.sasktel.net>, <373C81CE-40A6-4197-BB66-921C0B2522E0@twc.com> Message-ID: Thank you! It’s time to read and watch movies and.. listen to music:) Sent from my iPhone Miroslav Tkachenko Cell 1-647-409-5666 On Jun 21, 2021, at 11:50 AM, Les Morgan via Naktalk wrote:  Speedy and full recovery prayers for you, sir! Pax Domini Sit Semper Vobiscum Et Illegitimi Non Carborundum Les On Jun 21, 2021, at 11:42 AM, Joy-Ell & Rainer via Naktalk wrote:  No problem Miroslav, maybe you can get back in at a later time. Either way we will still make sure you get a copy which ever way you like. Rainer On Sun, 20 Jun 2021 22:45:50 +0000, Miroslav Tkachenko via Naktalk wrote: Dears, I have to back off from participating ( as recording) in travel tape project as recovering from hip surgery replacement. However I would be interested in getting Cd and cassette copies of final result ( if that possible). I can pail blank cassette and pay pal needed exes. Best Regards, Miroslav Tkachenko 80 Via Borghese, Woodbridge, Ontario, L4H 0Y6, Canada Cell/ Whatsapp +1-647 4095666 Skype - miroslavt1208 Facebook - facebook.com/miroslav.tkachenko.9 Instagram - miroslavt2018​ Twitter - @miroslavt https://myspace.com/opiumsongs ________________________________ From: Naktalk on behalf of Perry.nak via Naktalk Sent: June 13, 2021 8:31 AM To: Naktalk at lists.naks.com Subject: [naktalk] Chrome Travel Tape Haha, well, the joke is in me, as I already own the Sound of Nakamichi tape of California Project. But it is still sealed!! I had been hoping to find the non-Nak Telarc tape, so that I didn’t have to open the SON one. Here’s a good example of when common sense and obsession clash and the loser is me! The tape is perhaps worth $50 less if I remove the shrink wrap. But who am I saving it for?? I would only see that $50 if I were to sell the tape, which is so unlikely to be laughable. I have a few sealed SON tapes but all the others are duplicates of open I play. I assumed the plan is to make a CD, and cassette copies of the traveling tape, as that is what was done in the other Naktalk traveling tape. Since the people early on in the tapes travel never get to hear all subsequent tracks. Typically, one would send blank cassette they want used and postage to the person with the tape, if they agree to dub it, or, a few bucks for a CD copy sent to them and they just make their own tape. So Rainer, there is a list of artists, songs title, source, and decks recorded on, on a running list in Naktalk?? I haven’t seen it. 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URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Mon Jun 21 21:37:20 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Daniel Botelho via Naktalk) Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2021 15:37:20 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] Chrome Travel Tape In-Reply-To: References: <1624289682.o86hcnx2ckk88o0k@webmail.sasktel.net> <373C81CE-40A6-4197-BB66-921C0B2522E0@twc.com> Message-ID: Hi Miro, Ahh, you're just down the road from me. :) I'm sure we'll sort out a tape or CD copy of the list for you. Best wishes for a speedy recovery. Daniel On Mon, Jun 21, 2021 at 1:02 PM Miroslav Tkachenko via Naktalk < naktalk at lists.naks.com> wrote: > Thank you! > It’s time to read and watch movies and.. listen to music:) > > Sent from my iPhone > Miroslav Tkachenko > Cell 1-647-409-5666 > > On Jun 21, 2021, at 11:50 AM, Les Morgan via Naktalk < > naktalk at lists.naks.com> wrote: > >  Speedy and full recovery prayers for you, sir! > > *Pax Domini Sit Semper Vobiscum* > *Et* > *Illegitimi Non Carborundum* > > *Les* > > On Jun 21, 2021, at 11:42 AM, Joy-Ell & Rainer via Naktalk < > naktalk at lists.naks.com> wrote: > >  > No problem Miroslav, maybe you can get back in at a later time. Either way > we will still make sure you get a copy which ever way you like. > > Rainer > > On Sun, 20 Jun 2021 22:45:50 +0000, Miroslav Tkachenko via Naktalk < > naktalk at lists.naks.com> wrote: > > Dears, > > I have to back off from participating ( as recording) in travel tape > project as recovering from hip surgery replacement. > However I would be interested in getting Cd and cassette copies of final > result ( if that possible). I can pail blank cassette and pay pal needed > exes. > > > > > > Best Regards, > > Miroslav Tkachenko > 80 Via Borghese, Woodbridge, > Ontario, L4H 0Y6, Canada > Cell/ Whatsapp +1-647 4095666 > > > Skype - miroslavt1208 > Facebook - facebook.com/miroslav.tkachenko.9 > Instagram - miroslavt2018​ > Twitter - @miroslavt > https://myspace.com/opiumsongs > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Naktalk on behalf of Perry.nak > via Naktalk > *Sent:* June 13, 2021 8:31 AM > *To:* Naktalk at lists.naks.com > *Subject:* [naktalk] Chrome Travel Tape > > Haha, well, the joke is in me, as I already own the Sound of Nakamichi > tape of California Project. But it is still sealed!! I had been hoping to > find the non-Nak Telarc tape, so that I didn’t have to open the SON one. > Here’s a good example of when common sense and obsession clash and the > loser is me! The tape is perhaps worth $50 less if I remove the shrink > wrap. But who am I saving it for?? I would only see that $50 if I were to > sell the tape, which is so unlikely to be laughable. I have a few sealed > SON tapes but all the others are duplicates of open I play. > > I assumed the plan is to make a CD, and cassette copies of the traveling > tape, as that is what was done in the other Naktalk traveling tape. Since > the people early on in the tapes travel never get to hear all subsequent > tracks. Typically, one would send blank cassette they want used and postage > to the person with the tape, if they agree to dub it, or, a few bucks for a > CD copy sent to them and they just make their own tape. > > So Rainer, there is a list of artists, songs title, source, and decks > recorded on, on a running list in Naktalk?? I haven’t seen it. > > Sent from my iPhone > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Also check out the wiki! > https://apac01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwiki.naks.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C22979733aaa64e7f110a08d92e67347c%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637591843074668732%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=B9qopJehxIr0VJE5cgBzIHxJ%2FK0n%2BRtUC1S7KCrc2FY%3D&reserved=0 > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: > https://apac01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists.naks.com%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fnaktalk&data=04%7C01%7C%7C22979733aaa64e7f110a08d92e67347c%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637591843074678691%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=vx9Amm%2Bu6OAoVRBFpsmKcz1kwvIBTIfcIRNqLJDPaok%3D&reserved=0 > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Fri Jun 25 09:43:23 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Ural Durusu via Naktalk) Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2021 10:43:23 +0300 Subject: [naktalk] Travelling Cassette Tape tracking sheet - Invitation to edit In-Reply-To: <9jtg8scroote59nokbccroh3.1624579443863@gmail.com> References: <9jtg8scroote59nokbccroh3.1624579443863@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Daniel my address is Ural Durusu ERDEMIR işletmeler Genel Müdür Yardımcılığı Uzunkum Caddesi, No 7 67330 Kdz.Ereğli/Zonguldak Türkiye Ural iPhone’umdan gönderildi > Daniel Botelho via Naktalk şunları yazdı (25 Haz 2021 03:04): > >  > > Hey Jeff, > > Glad you got the deck and the tape in one piece:-) sounds like you're all set to make great recordings😎 > > I don't know ural's address, but I've added the nak list address as someone should bound to reply with his address. (Hopefully Ural himself) :) > > Thanks Jeff! > > Daniel > > > From: jeffringer at gmail.com > Sent: June 24, 2021 8:01 p.m. > To: daniel.botelho at gmail.com > Subject: Re: Travelling Cassette Tape tracking sheet - Invitation to edit > > Thanks Daniel! Do you happen to have Ural’s address? Perry sent me the tape in the box of an RX-505 he just overhauled. I’ve never started a post on NakTalk before, so am not sure how to acquire his address. > > Best, > Jeff > >> On Jun 15, 2021, at 3:26 AM, Daniel Botelho (via Google Sheets) wrote: >> >> daniel.botelho at gmail.com has invited you to edit the following spreadsheet: >> >> Travelling Cassette Tape tracking sheet >> here you go! thanks >> Open in Sheets >> Google Sheets: Create and edit spreadsheets online. >> Google LLC, 1600 Amphitheatre Parkway, Mountain View, CA 94043, USA >> You have received this email because daniel.botelho at gmail.com shared a spreadsheet with you from Google Sheets. > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On Jun 25, 2021, at 2:46 AM, Ural Durusu via Naktalk wrote: Hi Daniel my address is Ural Durusu ERDEMIR işletmeler Genel Müdür Yardımcılığı Uzunkum Caddesi, No 7 67330 Kdz.Ereğli/Zonguldak Türkiye Ural iPhone’umdan gönderildi > Daniel Botelho via Naktalk şunları yazdı (25 Haz 2021 03:04): > >  > > Hey Jeff, > > Glad you got the deck and the tape in one piece:-) sounds like you're all set to make great recordings😎 > > I don't know ural's address, but I've added the nak list address as someone should bound to reply with his address. (Hopefully Ural himself) :) > > Thanks Jeff! > > Daniel > > > From: jeffringer at gmail.com > Sent: June 24, 2021 8:01 p.m. > To: daniel.botelho at gmail.com > Subject: Re: Travelling Cassette Tape tracking sheet - Invitation to edit > > Thanks Daniel! Do you happen to have Ural’s address? Perry sent me the tape in the box of an RX-505 he just overhauled. I’ve never started a post on NakTalk before, so am not sure how to acquire his address. > > Best, > Jeff > >> On Jun 15, 2021, at 3:26 AM, Daniel Botelho (via Google Sheets) wrote: >> >> daniel.botelho at gmail.com has invited you to edit the following spreadsheet: >> >> Travelling Cassette Tape tracking sheet >> here you go! thanks >> Open in Sheets >> Google Sheets: Create and edit spreadsheets online. >> Google LLC, 1600 Amphitheatre Parkway, Mountain View, CA 94043, USA >> You have received this email because daniel.botelho at gmail.com shared a spreadsheet with you from Google Sheets. > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Fri Jun 25 22:30:53 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Ural Durusu via Naktalk) Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2021 23:30:53 +0300 Subject: [naktalk] Travelling Cassette Tape tracking sheet - Invitation to edit In-Reply-To: <452E3245-804B-4E66-AF6C-B7492D051055@yahoo.com> References: <452E3245-804B-4E66-AF6C-B7492D051055@yahoo.com> Message-ID: URAL DURUSU ERDEMIR ISLETMELER GMY. UZUNKUM CAD. NO 7 KDZ. EREGLI 67330 ZONGULDAK TURKEY Ural. iPhone’umdan gönderildi > Jeff Ringer via Naktalk şunları yazdı (25 Haz 2021 20:50): > >  > Thank you Ural, however I need your address in English and US Postal Service standard. They turned me away because they were unable to send. > Thanks! > > On Jun 25, 2021, at 2:46 AM, Ural Durusu via Naktalk wrote: > > Hi Daniel my address is > > Ural Durusu > ERDEMIR işletmeler Genel Müdür Yardımcılığı > Uzunkum Caddesi, No 7 67330 Kdz.Ereğli/Zonguldak Türkiye > > Ural > > > iPhone’umdan gönderildi > >> Daniel Botelho via Naktalk şunları yazdı (25 Haz 2021 03:04): >> >>  >> >> Hey Jeff, >> >> Glad you got the deck and the tape in one piece:-) sounds like you're all set to make great recordings😎 >> >> I don't know ural's address, but I've added the nak list address as someone should bound to reply with his address. (Hopefully Ural himself) :) >> >> Thanks Jeff! >> >> Daniel >> >> >> From: jeffringer at gmail.com >> Sent: June 24, 2021 8:01 p.m. >> To: daniel.botelho at gmail.com >> Subject: Re: Travelling Cassette Tape tracking sheet - Invitation to edit >> >> Thanks Daniel! Do you happen to have Ural’s address? Perry sent me the tape in the box of an RX-505 he just overhauled. I’ve never started a post on NakTalk before, so am not sure how to acquire his address. >> >> Best, >> Jeff >> >>> On Jun 15, 2021, at 3:26 AM, Daniel Botelho (via Google Sheets) wrote: >>> >>> daniel.botelho at gmail.com has invited you to edit the following spreadsheet: >>> >>> Travelling Cassette Tape tracking sheet >>> here you go! thanks >>> Open in Sheets >>> Google Sheets: Create and edit spreadsheets online. >>> Google LLC, 1600 Amphitheatre Parkway, Mountain View, CA 94043, USA >>> You have received this email because daniel.botelho at gmail.com shared a spreadsheet with you from Google Sheets. >> >> ========---------------------------------------------------------========= >> Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com >> ========---------------------------------------------------------========= >> Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist >> Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >> ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Wed Jun 30 04:02:50 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Joy-Ell & Rainer via Naktalk) Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2021 22:02:50 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] ATR Pro Chrome traveling tape Message-ID: <1625018570.ogdjsoej5b4ocw00@webmail.sasktel.net> Since we have run into a snag sending the tape from the USA to Turkey, Jeff is going to send the tape back to me in Canada and I will send it to Ural in Turkey from here. Anyone wanting to add or update their information should get an invitation to edit the spread sheet from Daniel and/or post it on Naktalk so that one of us can update. After Ural, Marcelo is next in Brazil! :)  Here is what we have so far:  Rainer  Canada      Amado Mio                                 Good Vibrations   Daniel  Canada     Goodbye yellow brick road                                  I'm an errand girl for rhythm   Perry  USA           Hasn't listed info yet    Miroslav  Canada  Bowing out because of surgery                                 but maybe in later   Ural  Turkey    Jeff  USA              Charlotte Sometimes                                 Listen   Marcelo  Brazil    Geoff       William    Cheers, Rainer From naktalk at lists.naks.com Wed Jun 30 21:17:57 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Marcelo Mansour particular via Naktalk) Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2021 16:17:57 -0300 Subject: [naktalk] RES: ATR Pro Chrome traveling tape In-Reply-To: <1625018570.ogdjsoej5b4ocw00@webmail.sasktel.net> References: <1625018570.ogdjsoej5b4ocw00@webmail.sasktel.net> Message-ID: Ok no problem and I still haven't decided which songs I'm going to record, I thought I'd record one on Dragon and another on CR-70 since there are only two songs, ok I'll decide soon. Just note that here in Brazil customs is quite boring and in the invoice use low values as USD5 is more than enough just to avoid delay. It would also be good to put the address to avoid shipping errors. Cheers, Marcelo -----Mensagem original----- De: Naktalk Em nome de Joy-Ell & Rainer via Naktalk Enviada em: terça-feira, 29 de junho de 2021 23:03 Para: Naktalk Assunto: [naktalk] ATR Pro Chrome traveling tape Since we have run into a snag sending the tape from the USA to Turkey, Jeff is going to send the tape back to me in Canada and I will send it to Ural in Turkey from here. Anyone wanting to add or update their information should get an invitation to edit the spread sheet from Daniel and/or post it on Naktalk so that one of us can update. After Ural, Marcelo is next in Brazil! :) Here is what we have so far: Rainer Canada Amado Mio Good Vibrations Daniel Canada Goodbye yellow brick road I'm an errand girl for rhythm Perry USA Hasn't listed info yet Miroslav Canada Bowing out because of surgery but maybe in later Ural Turkey Jeff USA Charlotte Sometimes Listen Marcelo Brazil Geoff William Cheers, Rainer ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= g:\07. razno\naktalk archive\2021\2021-7.txt ************************************************************************ From naktalk at lists.naks.com Thu Jul 1 00:43:42 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Daniel Botelho via Naktalk) Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2021 18:43:42 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] RES: ATR Pro Chrome traveling tape In-Reply-To: References: <1625018570.ogdjsoej5b4ocw00@webmail.sasktel.net> Message-ID: Hey marcelo, Thanks for the update. :) On another note, where are William and Geoff located? :) Might be easy to shuffle a few addresses to ease up on shipping costs. Daniel On Wed, Jun 30, 2021 at 3:41 PM Marcelo Mansour particular via Naktalk < naktalk at lists.naks.com> wrote: > Ok no problem and I still haven't decided which songs I'm going to record, > I thought I'd record one on Dragon and another on CR-70 since there are > only two songs, ok I'll decide soon. > Just note that here in Brazil customs is quite boring and in the invoice > use low values as USD5 is more than enough just to avoid delay. > It would also be good to put the address to avoid shipping errors. > > Cheers, > > Marcelo > > -----Mensagem original----- > De: Naktalk Em nome de Joy-Ell & Rainer > via Naktalk > Enviada em: terça-feira, 29 de junho de 2021 23:03 > Para: Naktalk > Assunto: [naktalk] ATR Pro Chrome traveling tape > > Since we have run into a snag sending the tape from the USA to Turkey, > Jeff is going to send the tape back to me in Canada and I will send it to > Ural in Turkey from here. Anyone wanting to add or update their information > should get an invitation to edit the spread sheet from Daniel and/or post > it on Naktalk so that one of us can update. 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URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Thu Jul 1 01:21:15 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Joy-Ell & Rainer via Naktalk) Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2021 19:21:15 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] ATR Pro Chrome traveling tape In-Reply-To: References: <1625018570.ogdjsoej5b4ocw00@webmail.sasktel.net> Message-ID: <1625095275.jsn0th00ocg8480k@webmail.sasktel.net> Geoff is in Australia and I haven't been able to find William's email yet but working on it! ;) Let's try to keep the order as much as possible. I don't think shuffling would make much difference anyway.   Rainer On Wed, 30 Jun 2021 18:43:42 -0400, Daniel Botelho via Naktalk wrote:   Hey marcelo,   Thanks for the update.  :)    On another note, where are William and Geoff located?  :)  Might be easy to shuffle a few addresses to ease up on shipping costs.   Daniel     On Wed, Jun 30, 2021 at 3:41 PM Marcelo Mansour particular via Naktalk wrote: Ok no problem and I still haven't decided which songs I'm going to record, I thought I'd record one on Dragon and another on CR-70 since there are only two songs, ok I'll decide soon. Just note that here in Brazil customs is quite boring and in the invoice use low values as USD5 is more than enough just to avoid delay. It would also be good to put the address to avoid shipping errors. Cheers, Marcelo -----Mensagem original----- De: Naktalk Em nome de Joy-Ell & Rainer via Naktalk Enviada em: terça-feira, 29 de junho de 2021 23:03 Para: Naktalk Assunto: [naktalk] ATR Pro Chrome traveling tape Since we have run into a snag sending the tape from the USA to Turkey, Jeff is going to send the tape back to me in Canada and I will send it to Ural in Turkey from here. Anyone wanting to add or update their information should get an invitation to edit the spread sheet from Daniel and/or post it on Naktalk so that one of us can update.  After Ural, Marcelo is next in Brazil! :) Here is what we have so far: Rainer  Canada      Amado Mio                               Good Vibrations Daniel  Canada     Goodbye yellow brick road                               I'm an errand girl for rhythm Perry  USA           Hasn't listed info yet Miroslav  Canada  Bowing out because of surgery                               but maybe in later  Ural  Turkey    Jeff  USA              Charlotte Sometimes                               Listen  Marcelo  Brazil Geoff      William    Cheers, Rainer ========---------------------------------------------------------=========           Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com ========---------------------------------------------------------=========                         Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= ========---------------------------------------------------------=========           Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com ========---------------------------------------------------------=========                         Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On Wed, 30 Jun 2021 19:22:21 -0400, Daniel Botelho via Naktalk wrote:   No worries... just putting out the feelers.  😁   All good!      From: joyell.solie at sasktel.net Sent: June 30, 2021 7:21 p.m. To: daniel.botelho at gmail.com; naktalk at lists.naks.com Reply to: joyell.solie at sasktel.net Subject: ATR Pro Chrome traveling tape Geoff is in Australia and I haven't been able to find William's email yet but working on it! ;) Let's try to keep the order as much as possible. I don't think shuffling would make much difference anyway.   Rainer On Wed, 30 Jun 2021 18:43:42 -0400, Daniel Botelho via Naktalk wrote:   Hey marcelo,   Thanks for the update.  :)    On another note, where are William and Geoff located?  :)  Might be easy to shuffle a few addresses to ease up on shipping costs.   Daniel     On Wed, Jun 30, 2021 at 3:41 PM Marcelo Mansour particular via Naktalk wrote: Ok no problem and I still haven't decided which songs I'm going to record, I thought I'd record one on Dragon and another on CR-70 since there are only two songs, ok I'll decide soon. Just note that here in Brazil customs is quite boring and in the invoice use low values as USD5 is more than enough just to avoid delay. It would also be good to put the address to avoid shipping errors. Cheers, Marcelo -----Mensagem original----- De: Naktalk Em nome de Joy-Ell & Rainer via Naktalk Enviada em: terça-feira, 29 de junho de 2021 23:03 Para: Naktalk Assunto: [naktalk] ATR Pro Chrome traveling tape Since we have run into a snag sending the tape from the USA to Turkey, Jeff is going to send the tape back to me in Canada and I will send it to Ural in Turkey from here. Anyone wanting to add or update their information should get an invitation to edit the spread sheet from Daniel and/or post it on Naktalk so that one of us can update.  After Ural, Marcelo is next in Brazil! :) Here is what we have so far: Rainer  Canada      Amado Mio                               Good Vibrations Daniel  Canada     Goodbye yellow brick road                               I'm an errand girl for rhythm Perry  USA           Hasn't listed info yet Miroslav  Canada  Bowing out because of surgery                               but maybe in later  Ural  Turkey    Jeff  USA              Charlotte Sometimes                               Listen  Marcelo  Brazil Geoff      William    Cheers, Rainer ========---------------------------------------------------------=========           Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com ========---------------------------------------------------------=========                         Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= ========---------------------------------------------------------=========           Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com ========---------------------------------------------------------=========                         Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Thu Jul 1 16:32:59 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Joy-Ell & Rainer via Naktalk) Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2021 10:32:59 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] Pro Chrome Traveling Tape Message-ID: <1625149979.26zwljd5cgck800o@webmail.sasktel.net> Thanks guys! :) William, you don't need to log in to post on Naktalk, just include   Naktalk at lists.naks.com  in the address and your email will get posted. I was having trouble for a long time because I didn't have the address exactly right so you need to watch that. You do need to log in to look at the archives though. Cheers, Rainer S. On Thu, 01 Jul 2021 08:23:08 -0400, Daniel Botelho wrote: Ahh, so you are in the US.  Okay, not too bad. We just wanted a way to track the addresses in our spreadsheet to make it easier for others to mail out the tape.  If you can provide your address, that would be great.  I've sent you an email for the spreadsheet... hopefully it makes it through. As you are the last entrant, once you get the tape and add your tracks, you'll be mailing it back to rainier for him to digitize.  😊 As you will likely be receiving it from Australia, it will be awhile before you get your hands on the tape, but you will get it eventually.  :) From naktalk at lists.naks.com Thu Jul 1 17:25:39 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Tom Massara via Naktalk) Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2021 15:25:39 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [naktalk] LED lamp replacement in VU meters References: <37888840.86768.1625153139423.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <37888840.86768.1625153139423@mail.yahoo.com> I have a blown lamp in one of the VU's in my Nak 610 and would like to upgrade all the lamps in my 610 and 600 deck with LEDs. Several years ago I had all 4 lamps replaced with OEM bulbs which I ordered from B&W in the UK and I'd prefer to not go that route this time. Has anyone done this that may have specs or recommendations on parts to order and a source for same? Thanks, Tom -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Thu Jul 1 18:22:09 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Ersted Bar via Naktalk) Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2021 18:22:09 +0200 Subject: [naktalk] LED lamp replacement in VU meters In-Reply-To: <37888840.86768.1625153139423@mail.yahoo.com> References: <37888840.86768.1625153139423.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <37888840.86768.1625153139423@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <791CC82C-A054-4D99-983D-4A95F2806D60@yahoo.com> The topic is a bit complicated, if you want the original ... If you want a replacement or similar, I think you can find it on ebay, or similar sites..You can look at the Buyee.jp site in Japan, where you can auction or buy now, find the original product for Nakamichi devices ... You just have to be persistent and careful in searching and describing the product ... > On Jul 1, 2021, at 17:25, Tom Massara via Naktalk wrote: > > I have a blown lamp in one of the VU's in my Nak 610 and would like to upgrade all the lamps in my 610 and 600 deck with LEDs. Several years ago I had all 4 lamps replaced with OEM bulbs which I ordered from B&W in the UK and I'd prefer to not go that route this time. Has anyone done this that may have specs or recommendations on parts to order and a source for same? > Thanks, Tom From naktalk at lists.naks.com Thu Jul 1 19:37:02 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Tom Brucker via Naktalk) Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2021 12:37:02 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] LED lamp replacement in VU meters In-Reply-To: <791CC82C-A054-4D99-983D-4A95F2806D60@yahoo.com> References: <37888840.86768.1625153139423.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <37888840.86768.1625153139423@mail.yahoo.com> <791CC82C-A054-4D99-983D-4A95F2806D60@yahoo.com> Message-ID: You may need to enlarge the hole in the diffuser to fit an led. I do not think it will look good. The factory specified lamps last a good long time. On Thu, Jul 1, 2021, 11:39 AM Ersted Bar via Naktalk wrote: > The topic is a bit complicated, if you want the original ... If you want a > replacement or similar, I think you can find it on ebay, or similar > sites..You can look at the Buyee.jp site in Japan, where you can auction or > buy now, find the original product for Nakamichi devices ... You just have > to be persistent and careful in searching and describing the product ... > > > On Jul 1, 2021, at 17:25, Tom Massara via Naktalk < > naktalk at lists.naks.com> wrote: > > > > I have a blown lamp in one of the VU's in my Nak 610 and would like to > upgrade all the lamps in my 610 and 600 deck with LEDs. Several years ago I > had all 4 lamps replaced with OEM bulbs which I ordered from B&W in the UK > and I'd prefer to not go that route this time. 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URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Thu Jul 1 20:38:40 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Andrew via Naktalk) Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2021 21:38:40 +0300 Subject: [naktalk] LED lamp replacement in VU meters In-Reply-To: <37888840.86768.1625153139423@mail.yahoo.com> References: <37888840.86768.1625153139423.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <37888840.86768.1625153139423@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Just use any appropriate leds of good brand (for example, Betlux or Kingbright). Current limiting resistor should set current at about 5...7 mA (leds are usually designed for 10...20 mA current). If it's an optocoupler bulb like in spin detector use bright white leds at the same current. Other leds may not give sufficient light flux for stable optocoupler operation. For illumination ledd, check if the brightness is not too low or too high, adjyst current limiting resistor if needed, but don't go beyond 7...8 mA if you are not sure the led is for 15 mA or higher (check with datasheet if you know the led's part number). On Thu, Jul 1, 2021, 18:31 Tom Massara via Naktalk wrote: > I have a blown lamp in one of the VU's in my Nak 610 and would like to > upgrade all the lamps in my 610 and 600 deck with LEDs. Several years ago I > had all 4 lamps replaced with OEM bulbs which I ordered from B&W in the UK > and I'd prefer to not go that route this time. 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URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Thu Jul 1 21:53:01 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Bob Naylor via Naktalk) Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2021 15:53:01 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] LED lamp replacement in VU meters In-Reply-To: References: <37888840.86768.1625153139423.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <37888840.86768.1625153139423@mail.yahoo.com> <791CC82C-A054-4D99-983D-4A95F2806D60@yahoo.com> Message-ID: If your incandescent lamps are not lasting very long then maybe you can put a resistor in series with the lamps to drop the current just a little. You will have to calculate for the proper resistance. That is if you can find a good place to install it. That will lower the intensity of the lamps so it's a personal preference thing. Bob N On Thu, Jul 1, 2021 at 1:37 PM Tom Brucker via Naktalk < naktalk at lists.naks.com> wrote: > You may need to enlarge the hole in the diffuser to fit an led. I do not > think it will look good. The factory specified lamps last a good long time. > > On Thu, Jul 1, 2021, 11:39 AM Ersted Bar via Naktalk < > naktalk at lists.naks.com> wrote: > >> The topic is a bit complicated, if you want the original ... If you want >> a replacement or similar, I think you can find it on ebay, or similar >> sites..You can look at the Buyee.jp site in Japan, where you can auction or >> buy now, find the original product for Nakamichi devices ... You just have >> to be persistent and careful in searching and describing the product ... >> >> > On Jul 1, 2021, at 17:25, Tom Massara via Naktalk < >> naktalk at lists.naks.com> wrote: >> > >> > I have a blown lamp in one of the VU's in my Nak 610 and would like to >> upgrade all the lamps in my 610 and 600 deck with LEDs. Several years ago I >> had all 4 lamps replaced with OEM bulbs which I ordered from B&W in the UK >> and I'd prefer to not go that route this time. 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That is if you can find a good place to install it. That will lower the intensity of the lamps soit's a personal preference thing.Bob N On Thu, Jul 1, 2021 at 1:37 PM Tom Brucker via Naktalk wrote: You may need to enlarge the hole in the diffuser to fit an led. I do not think it will look good. The factory specified lamps last a good long time.  On Thu, Jul 1, 2021, 11:39 AM Ersted Bar via Naktalk wrote: The topic is a bit complicated, if you want the original ... If you want a replacement or similar, I think you can find it on ebay, or similar sites..You can look at the Buyee.jp site in Japan, where you can auction or buy now, find the original product for  Nakamichi devices ... You just have to be persistent and careful in searching and describing the product ... > On Jul 1, 2021, at 17:25, Tom Massara via Naktalk wrote: > > I have a blown lamp in one of the VU's in my Nak 610 and would like to upgrade all the lamps in my 610 and 600 deck with LEDs. 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URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Thu Jul 15 03:19:57 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Joy-Ell & Rainer via Naktalk) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2021 21:19:57 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] Update: ProChrome traveling tape Message-ID: <1626311997.0pm0o5fzsw08scoc@webmail.sasktel.net> Soooooo on Monday UPS (courier) showed up at my door with the tape (from Jeff) along with $32 of COD fees! I still had steam coming out of my ears yesterday but today I got the tape sent off to Ural in Turkey for $6 at the POST OFFICE. Frick'en UPS's trick is to give a smok'in deal to the sender and collect big from the receiver which is probably why they didn't want to send to Turkey because they might have a hard time collecting from there! Ural, there is just under 6 minutes left on side A so hopefully you can make that work for 1 song and put another on side B.   Please use the POST OFFICE guys.    BTW  Tape is turning out really nice and it looks like we might have some room left! :) From naktalk at lists.naks.com Thu Jul 15 03:29:45 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Jeff Ringer via Naktalk) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2021 20:29:45 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Update: ProChrome traveling tape In-Reply-To: <1626311997.0pm0o5fzsw08scoc@webmail.sasktel.net> References: <1626311997.0pm0o5fzsw08scoc@webmail.sasktel.net> Message-ID: Sorry that happened Rainer; however, what they didn’t tell you was I had to spend $47 USD to send it off. What a rip-off on both ends. Our USPS would not send it, for either strange reasons or that they’re inherently lazy. Next time I’ll try the PO on the other side of town. Again, apologies. > On Jul 14, 2021, at 8:19 PM, Joy-Ell & Rainer via Naktalk wrote: > > Soooooo on Monday UPS (courier) showed up at my door with the tape (from Jeff) along with $32 of COD fees! I still had steam coming out of my ears yesterday but today I got the tape sent off to Ural in Turkey for $6 at the POST OFFICE. Frick'en UPS's trick is to give a smok'in deal to the sender and collect big from the receiver which is probably why they didn't want to send to Turkey because they might have a hard time collecting from there! Ural, there is just under 6 minutes left on side A so hopefully you can make that work for 1 song and put another on side B. Please use the POST OFFICE guys. > > BTW Tape is turning out really nice and it looks like we might have some room left! :) > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= From naktalk at lists.naks.com Thu Jul 15 07:35:52 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Daniel Botelho via Naktalk) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2021 01:35:52 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] Update: ProChrome traveling tape In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <2hggumet17qaokcurbt76tq2.1626327352085@gmail.com> :( Wow...that really sucks on both ends. I remember chatting with Jeff, and he paid a pretty penny to ship it out to you rainier. Cheap was not the word I would use when using UPS... :( I know USPS can be very picky when shipping stuff internationally... as Jeff mentioned it cost more than UPS. Hopefully we can find a more reasonable cost when shipping this stuff. I can probably print out pre-paid labels via UPS for a lot cheaper. Perhaps next time we try to keep it more local for certain routes to keep those postage fees reasonable.   Original Message   From: naktalk at lists.naks.com Sent: July 15, 2021 12:58 a.m. To: joyell.solie at sasktel.net; naktalk at lists.naks.com Reply to: jeffmringer at yahoo.com; naktalk at lists.naks.com Subject: Re: [naktalk] Update: ProChrome traveling tape Sorry that happened Rainer; however, what they didn’t tell you was I had to spend $47 USD to send it off.  What a rip-off on both ends. Our USPS would not send it, for either strange reasons or that they’re inherently lazy.  Next time I’ll try the PO on the other side of town.  Again, apologies. > On Jul 14, 2021, at 8:19 PM, Joy-Ell & Rainer via Naktalk wrote: > > Soooooo on Monday UPS (courier) showed up at my door with the tape (from Jeff) along with $32 of COD fees! I still had steam coming out of my ears yesterday but today I got the tape sent off to Ural in Turkey for $6 at the POST OFFICE. Frick'en UPS's trick is to give a smok'in deal to the sender and collect big from the receiver which is probably why they didn't want to send to Turkey because they might have a hard time collecting from there! Ural, there is just under 6 minutes left on side A so hopefully you can make that work for 1 song and put another on side B.     Please use the POST OFFICE guys.   > > BTW  Tape is turning out really nice and it looks like we might have some room left! :) > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= >          Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= >                        Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= ========---------------------------------------------------------=========           Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com ========---------------------------------------------------------=========                         Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= From naktalk at lists.naks.com Thu Jul 15 09:38:41 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Ural Durusu via Naktalk) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2021 10:38:41 +0300 Subject: [naktalk] Update: ProChrome traveling tape In-Reply-To: <2hggumet17qaokcurbt76tq2.1626327352085@gmail.com> References: <2hggumet17qaokcurbt76tq2.1626327352085@gmail.com> Message-ID: <9F138819-FC5A-4FAB-8F00-F4A017F39CC5@kozaglobal.com> Good to hear from the tape. Don’t worry I will send it from the Post Office. When I paid the fee I don’t think that they will ask any from the receiver. Ural > Daniel Botelho via Naktalk şunları yazdı (15 Tem 2021 08:35): > > :( > > Wow...that really sucks on both ends. > > I remember chatting with Jeff, and he paid a pretty penny to ship it out to you rainier. > > Cheap was not the word I would use when using UPS... :( I know USPS can be very picky when shipping stuff internationally... as Jeff mentioned it cost more than UPS. > > Hopefully we can find a more reasonable cost when shipping this stuff. I can probably print out pre-paid labels via UPS for a lot cheaper. > > Perhaps next time we try to keep it more local for certain routes to keep those postage fees reasonable. > > > > > > Original Message > > > From: naktalk at lists.naks.com > Sent: July 15, 2021 12:58 a.m. > To: joyell.solie at sasktel.net; naktalk at lists.naks.com > Reply to: jeffmringer at yahoo.com; naktalk at lists.naks.com > Subject: Re: [naktalk] Update: ProChrome traveling tape > > > Sorry that happened Rainer; however, what they didn’t tell you was I had to spend $47 USD to send it off. What a rip-off on both ends. Our USPS would not send it, for either strange reasons or that they’re inherently lazy. Next time I’ll try the PO on the other side of town. Again, apologies. > >> On Jul 14, 2021, at 8:19 PM, Joy-Ell & Rainer via Naktalk wrote: >> >> Soooooo on Monday UPS (courier) showed up at my door with the tape (from Jeff) along with $32 of COD fees! I still had steam coming out of my ears yesterday but today I got the tape sent off to Ural in Turkey for $6 at the POST OFFICE. Frick'en UPS's trick is to give a smok'in deal to the sender and collect big from the receiver which is probably why they didn't want to send to Turkey because they might have a hard time collecting from there! Ural, there is just under 6 minutes left on side A so hopefully you can make that work for 1 song and put another on side B. Please use the POST OFFICE guys. >> >> BTW Tape is turning out really nice and it looks like we might have some room left! :) >> ========---------------------------------------------------------========= >> Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com >> ========---------------------------------------------------------========= >> Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist >> Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >> ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= g:\07. razno\naktalk archive\2021\2021-8.txt ************************************************************************ From naktalk at lists.naks.com Mon Aug 9 23:48:06 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Victor Gabrenas via Naktalk) Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2021 15:48:06 -0600 Subject: [naktalk] Marrs Comm Investigation In-Reply-To: References: <60E0C3A8-9459-4697-B70A-826629512FF9@ziggo.nl> <01F0AE1A-27EA-4E4B-BDE6-534524BE22A9@sky.com> <1342819958.1945967.1614152917096@mail.yahoo.com>, Message-ID: <004b01d78d68$3d07de40$b7179ac0$@math.utah.edu> FYI: It appears that Marrs Communications has had a fire destroying all their inventory and home. According to the webpage, they are offering refunds. Vic From: Naktalk On Behalf Of R Smith via Naktalk Sent: Monday, March 29, 2021 1:55 PM To: Phineas Paine ; Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks Subject: Re: [naktalk] Marrs Comm Investigation Please do not send ANY money to Marrs; you’ll get nothing in return. _____ From: Naktalk > on behalf of Phineas Paine via Naktalk > Sent: Monday, March 29, 2021 2:42:51 PM To: naktalk at lists.naks.com > Subject: Re: [naktalk] Marrs Comm Investigation Hi. I'm wondering if anyone has recently ordered and received any belts from Marrs, or has everyone been left holding an empty bag? I need new belts and idler tires for 3 of my Naks - 2 x BX-300 and a RX-505. Also maybe a new NAAC belt for my Dragon. I really liked the belts I received from Fred in years past, but haven't ordered any since Krista took over. She did reply promptly to an 'information' email I sent about a month ago, but I have yet to place my order Henry On Wed, Feb 24, 2021, 2:48 AM Tim Rusling via Naktalk, > wrote: She could fill the orders from jail. Nothing about this saga makes any sense. On Wednesday, February 24, 2021, 01:58:47 a.m. EST, Sky Email via Naktalk > wrote: No, its continued to work exactly the way Fred had been running it for years. She was taught well; take the money, don't send items, when the customer (or sucker as she probably calls them) pick a lie and and then ignore them. I’m really looking forward to to hearing the outcome of the investigation. Interestingly, the website is still up-and-running. http://marrscommunications.com/ And Krista has a new email address too. marrskrista0105 at gmail.com And of course, she continues to warn customers, again and again, there will be delays in getting their order due to not doing this or not doing that and for the last year, C19 delays because they have delays in getting the products from their suppliers. But as always, nowhere does is state they’re OOS on any product. And I love the “help” being offered to expedite orders, by just sending Krista a pic of a signed personal cheque as that can be banked using an app! Unbelievable - she’s still ripping people off. On 24 Feb 2021, at 06:17, N.van.wijnen at ziggo.nl via Naktalk > wrote: Hi , You are right, Krista is the daughter of Fred and Fred past away. I think that continuing the business did not work out the way Krista thought. They should remove the website from the internet much earlier . Best regards, Norman Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad Op 24 feb. 2021 om 02:09 heeft Rajiv Pandey via Naktalk > het volgende geschreven:  FWIW - I ordered some Nak belts from Krista back in early 2019 and it took over 7-8 weeks of constant pestering and opening a case with Paypal to grab her attention. She apologized profusely when she finally responded and said he was moving apartments but that was back in 2019 and if it is still the case then its a shame. She was in Houston and I am in Dallas and I was so frustrated that I was ready to drive down to Houston to get my order. i think she is the daughter of Fred and I am not even sure if Fred is still with us in this world and hence the state we are in On Mon, Feb 22, 2021 at 6:34 PM Tim Rusling via Naktalk > wrote: Such a shame. https://www.linkedin.com/in/krista-smith-17aa01158/ On Monday, February 22, 2021, 05:43:48 p.m. EST, Steven Rieker via Naktalk > wrote: I received a letter posted 9 Feb 2021 from the Harris County (TX) District Attorney's office in Houston regarding Consumer Fraud Investigation # 20-60749-CF, regarding multiple complaints against Krista Smith d/b/a Marrs Communications. A questionnaire was included, as well a request for relevant receipts, cancelled checks or other documentation. In my memory, I did not previously contact the DA's office or any gov't entity. I did post to NakTalk in April 2019 regarding receipt of a Marrs belt kit. As to how the DA obtained my name, I can only speculate that either the office has obtained records from Ms. Smith, or possibly has reviewed NakTalk posts. I'm posting this just as a heads-up to list members, as more are likely to be contacted. I don't wish to provoke another takeover of the list regarding this topic, as others have understandably expressed Marrs fatique. 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URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Tue Aug 10 10:55:10 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (RMSUK@icloud.com via Naktalk) Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2021 08:55:10 +0000 Subject: [naktalk] Marrs Comm Investigation In-Reply-To: <004b01d78d68$3d07de40$b7179ac0$@math.utah.edu> References: <60E0C3A8-9459-4697-B70A-826629512FF9@ziggo.nl> <01F0AE1A-27EA-4E4B-BDE6-534524BE22A9@sky.com> <1342819958.1945967.1614152917096@mail.yahoo.com>, , <004b01d78d68$3d07de40$b7179ac0$@math.utah.edu> Message-ID: Looking at Google earth and comparing the photos of “their fire” on their website, the property concerned doesn’t appear to be theirs. I simply wouldn’t believe a word written by or spoken by Krista Smith as she, like her father Fred, lies like a cheap watch. Marrs has ripped-off 100’s of customers for the past 15 years with excuses ranging from a delayed ship from Japan, to the Post Office being too far from them (it’s two miles away btw) to their computer being hacked and losing the orders. I just hope the current legal process ends up with her being thrown in jail. ________________________________ From: Naktalk on behalf of Victor Gabrenas via Naktalk Sent: Monday, August 9, 2021 10:48:06 PM To: 'Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks' Subject: Re: [naktalk] Marrs Comm Investigation FYI: It appears that Marrs Communications has had a fire destroying all their inventory and home. According to the webpage, they are offering refunds. Vic From: Naktalk On Behalf Of R Smith via Naktalk Sent: Monday, March 29, 2021 1:55 PM To: Phineas Paine ; Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks Subject: Re: [naktalk] Marrs Comm Investigation Please do not send ANY money to Marrs; you’ll get nothing in return. ________________________________ From: Naktalk > on behalf of Phineas Paine via Naktalk > Sent: Monday, March 29, 2021 2:42:51 PM To: naktalk at lists.naks.com > Subject: Re: [naktalk] Marrs Comm Investigation Hi. I'm wondering if anyone has recently ordered and received any belts from Marrs, or has everyone been left holding an empty bag? I need new belts and idler tires for 3 of my Naks - 2 x BX-300 and a RX-505. Also maybe a new NAAC belt for my Dragon. I really liked the belts I received from Fred in years past, but haven't ordered any since Krista took over. She did reply promptly to an 'information' email I sent about a month ago, but I have yet to place my order Henry On Wed, Feb 24, 2021, 2:48 AM Tim Rusling via Naktalk, > wrote: She could fill the orders from jail. Nothing about this saga makes any sense. On Wednesday, February 24, 2021, 01:58:47 a.m. EST, Sky Email via Naktalk > wrote: No, its continued to work exactly the way Fred had been running it for years. She was taught well; take the money, don't send items, when the customer (or sucker as she probably calls them) pick a lie and and then ignore them. I’m really looking forward to to hearing the outcome of the investigation. Interestingly, the website is still up-and-running. http://marrscommunications.com/ And Krista has a new email address too. marrskrista0105 at gmail.com And of course, she continues to warn customers, again and again, there will be delays in getting their order due to not doing this or not doing that and for the last year, C19 delays because they have delays in getting the products from their suppliers. But as always, nowhere does is state they’re OOS on any product. And I love the “help” being offered to expedite orders, by just sending Krista a pic of a signed personal cheque as that can be banked using an app! Unbelievable - she’s still ripping people off. On 24 Feb 2021, at 06:17, N.van.wijnen at ziggo.nl via Naktalk > wrote: Hi , You are right, Krista is the daughter of Fred and Fred past away. I think that continuing the business did not work out the way Krista thought. They should remove the website from the internet much earlier . Best regards, Norman Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad Op 24 feb. 2021 om 02:09 heeft Rajiv Pandey via Naktalk > het volgende geschreven:  FWIW - I ordered some Nak belts from Krista back in early 2019 and it took over 7-8 weeks of constant pestering and opening a case with Paypal to grab her attention. She apologized profusely when she finally responded and said he was moving apartments but that was back in 2019 and if it is still the case then its a shame. She was in Houston and I am in Dallas and I was so frustrated that I was ready to drive down to Houston to get my order. i think she is the daughter of Fred and I am not even sure if Fred is still with us in this world and hence the state we are in On Mon, Feb 22, 2021 at 6:34 PM Tim Rusling via Naktalk > wrote: Such a shame. https://www.linkedin.com/in/krista-smith-17aa01158/ On Monday, February 22, 2021, 05:43:48 p.m. EST, Steven Rieker via Naktalk > wrote: I received a letter posted 9 Feb 2021 from the Harris County (TX) District Attorney's office in Houston regarding Consumer Fraud Investigation # 20-60749-CF, regarding multiple complaints against Krista Smith d/b/a Marrs Communications. A questionnaire was included, as well a request for relevant receipts, cancelled checks or other documentation. In my memory, I did not previously contact the DA's office or any gov't entity. I did post to NakTalk in April 2019 regarding receipt of a Marrs belt kit. As to how the DA obtained my name, I can only speculate that either the office has obtained records from Ms. Smith, or possibly has reviewed NakTalk posts. I'm posting this just as a heads-up to list members, as more are likely to be contacted. I don't wish to provoke another takeover of the list regarding this topic, as others have understandably expressed Marrs fatique. 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Caveat emptor is advice as old as Latin and likely much much older Ian Now in Ireland and too far away from a Nak competent engineer for my machines good From naktalk at lists.naks.com Tue Aug 10 14:34:18 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (john kojic via Naktalk) Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2021 12:34:18 +0000 Subject: [naktalk] Marrs belts In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: surely it must have been a real business at some point ________________________________ From: Naktalk on behalf of Narada Ian via Naktalk Sent: 10 August 2021 11:26 To: naktalk at lists.naks.com Subject: [naktalk] Marrs belts Its quite a feat that after all this time from the earliest belt wars when orders were honoured but the accuracy of the belts was questioned thru till now that Marrs Belts is the gift that goes on giving to us...quite remarkable really As scams go it seems almost rudimentary but I doubt US society or taxpayers would be served by feeding the prison industrial complex with an 'ordinary decent criminal' when there are so many violent candidates. I sympathise with peoples frustration but if I was doing business with a unknown to me firm I would search for the lowdown before sending a bean off...with 15 years of lowdown the signs were clear. Caveat emptor is advice as old as Latin and likely much much older Ian Now in Ireland and too far away from a Nak competent engineer for my machines good ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= [https://ipmcdn.avast.com/images/icons/icon-envelope-tick-round-orange-animated-no-repeat-v1.gif] Virus-free. www.avast.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Tue Aug 10 19:20:05 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Andrew Luecke via Naktalk) Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2021 12:20:05 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Help Finding Belt for CP-1 References: Message-ID: Hello. Anybody know what belt would work with the cassette deck on a CP-1? I’ve searched around quite a bit online but haven’t been able to turn anything up other than nak part # 0010057500, but can’t tell what would be comparable generically. Any help is appreciated. Thanks! -Andrew From naktalk at lists.naks.com Tue Aug 10 16:10:08 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (RMSUK@icloud.com via Naktalk) Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2021 14:10:08 +0000 Subject: [naktalk] Marrs belts In-Reply-To: References: , Message-ID: It absolutely was, but Fred always had a cavalier attitude toward customers and blamed all and sundry if this game went wrong, except himself. And the abuse he gave anyone who had the audacity to ask where their paid-for goods or their refund were was quite incredible. In the end, they were just taking the money and never fulfilling the order and that was that; it was fraud. I’d be surprised if anyone is getting their refunds; after-all, they’ve lost all the customer information in a fire, haven’t they? ________________________________ From: Naktalk on behalf of john kojic via Naktalk Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2021 1:34:18 PM To: Narada Ian ; Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks Subject: Re: [naktalk] Marrs belts surely it must have been a real business at some point ________________________________ From: Naktalk on behalf of Narada Ian via Naktalk Sent: 10 August 2021 11:26 To: naktalk at lists.naks.com Subject: [naktalk] Marrs belts Its quite a feat that after all this time from the earliest belt wars when orders were honoured but the accuracy of the belts was questioned thru till now that Marrs Belts is the gift that goes on giving to us...quite remarkable really As scams go it seems almost rudimentary but I doubt US society or taxpayers would be served by feeding the prison industrial complex with an 'ordinary decent criminal' when there are so many violent candidates. I sympathise with peoples frustration but if I was doing business with a unknown to me firm I would search for the lowdown before sending a bean off...with 15 years of lowdown the signs were clear. Caveat emptor is advice as old as Latin and likely much much older Ian Now in Ireland and too far away from a Nak competent engineer for my machines good ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= [https://ipmcdn.avast.com/images/icons/icon-envelope-tick-round-orange-animated-no-repeat-v1.gif] Virus-free. www.avast.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Ken From: Naktalk On Behalf Of Narada Ian via Naktalk Sent: Wednesday, 11 August 2021 1:16 AM To: john kojic Cc: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks Subject: Re: [naktalk] Marrs belts Yes I received a full set of. belts from himself gratis during the actual belt war which I had fitted to a Cassette Deck 1 & a 300 I felt some of the early criticism was a tad anal if he was to be believed about the specs of the belts he hd said were manufactured to Nak specs It was all quite vituperative...i believed him re the specs but had no experience of failed orders so I dont know how real the business was...he had the market to himself apart from the US service centre that charged way too much for a set of real Nak belts...or so they claimed On 10 Aug 2021, john kojic > wrote: surely it must have been a real business at some point -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Wed Aug 11 01:06:33 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (David King via Naktalk) Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2021 09:06:33 +1000 Subject: [naktalk] Marrs belts In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3092813E-0861-4C29-BE50-83720B713D10@gmail.com> I would also just like to report the fact that I have been supplied excellent belts for ZX-9, 680ZX, 670ZX and several Pioneer CT-91As, and received excellent service from Fred. This was back around 2010 through 2015. I am in Australia, and never waited long for delivery. Of course this has not been everybody’s experience and their frustration certainly sounds justified. I guess I just wanted to say it wasn’t always this way, and I feel the original intent and service was very good. RIP Fred. avss01 > On 11 Aug 2021, at 6:54 am, Ken Mashlan via Naktalk wrote: > >  > Yes – I purchased belts from him for the classic capstan which were at one stage impossible to find (maybe 2006?). Fitted one not long ago and the W&F specs were better than factory, so no issues with quality back then. > > Ken > > From: Naktalk On Behalf Of Narada Ian via Naktalk > Sent: Wednesday, 11 August 2021 1:16 AM > To: john kojic > Cc: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > Subject: Re: [naktalk] Marrs belts > > Yes I received a full set of. belts from himself gratis during the actual belt war which I had fitted to a Cassette Deck 1 & a 300 > > I felt some of the early criticism was a tad anal if he was to be believed about the specs of the belts he hd said were manufactured to Nak specs > > It was all quite vituperative...i believed him re the specs but had no experience of failed orders so I dont know > how real the business was...he had the market to himself apart from the US service centre that charged way too much for a set of real Nak belts...or so they claimed > > > On 10 Aug 2021, john kojic wrote: > > surely it must have been a real business at some point > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Wed Aug 11 16:24:05 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Kevin Fetner via Naktalk) Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2021 14:24:05 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [naktalk] Marrs belts References: <1427451457.877641.1628691845628.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1427451457.877641.1628691845628@mail.yahoo.com> "Yes – I purchased belts from him for the classic capstan which were at one stage impossible to find (maybe 2006?).  Fitted one not long ago and the W&F specs were better than factory, so no issues with quality back then. Ken" I think this is it in a nutshell. In the beginning, at the genesis of Fred's idea;to get an Asian supplier to make Nak spec belts, his do-diligence was sound. Where he failed was in how he dealt with customers. When he decided to sell internationally, IMO, is where he really got in over his head. Dealing with exchange rates, language barriers and customers who could never be pleased was his downfall. I understand his intentions, but he failed miserably in dealing with individuals on an international level. It takes a certain kind of individual to pull that off and Fred was not that person However, this isn't a problem with 'murica as some of you are pontificating...that's just xenophobia plain & simple. The problem was with Fred's mettle, nothing else....don't make it a US society character flaw. Look to your own closets, you have plenty of dirt there as well. Kevin -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Thu Aug 12 09:37:15 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (RMSUK@icloud.com via Naktalk) Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2021 07:37:15 +0000 Subject: [naktalk] Marrs belts In-Reply-To: <1427451457.877641.1628691845628@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1427451457.877641.1628691845628.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1427451457.877641.1628691845628@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I wasn’t aware anyone based their view of an entire countries society with the experience of one conman; I certainly have not. Whilst I can understand your theory, Kevin, that their downfall was due to Fred and Kristas’ inability to convert currency and post an item to foreign lands, unfortunately the vast majority of complainants came from the USA, hence the local action being undertaken. It’s odd that so many other one man US businesses in exactly the same space, such as Vintage Electronics, have no issues getting their goods all over the world, quickly, economically and efficiently. A charge of $45 to send a single belt from there to here was an absolute rip-off… especially as 90% of the time it would seem they were never actually sent! ________________________________ From: Naktalk on behalf of Kevin Fetner via Naktalk Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2021 07:08 To: naktalk at lists.naks.com Subject: Re: [naktalk] Marrs belts "Yes – I purchased belts from him for the classic capstan which were at one stage impossible to find (maybe 2006?). Fitted one not long ago and the W&F specs were better than factory, so no issues with quality back then. Ken" I think this is it in a nutshell. In the beginning, at the genesis of Fred's idea;to get an Asian supplier to make Nak spec belts, his do-diligence was sound. Where he failed was in how he dealt with customers. When he decided to sell internationally, IMO, is where he really got in over his head. Dealing with exchange rates, language barriers and customers who could never be pleased was his downfall. I understand his intentions, but he failed miserably in dealing with individuals on an international level. It takes a certain kind of individual to pull that off and Fred was not that person However, this isn't a problem with 'murica as some of you are pontificating...that's just xenophobia plain & simple. The problem was with Fred's mettle, nothing else....don't make it a US society character flaw. Look to your own closets, you have plenty of dirt there as well. Kevin -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Thu Aug 12 18:31:51 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Willy Hermann via Naktalk) Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2021 09:31:51 -0700 Subject: [naktalk] Marrs belts In-Reply-To: References: <1427451457.877641.1628691845628.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1427451457.877641.1628691845628@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I can no longer stay silent on this issue. I have no knowledge of what has happened to Marrscommunications since Fred's death but I transacted business for several years with Fred and never knew him to be anything other than an honest, hard working businessman. He was put through the ringer by the likes of you several times as he dealt with his supply chain issues while doing his best to supply all of you a quality product which would actually meet Nakamichi spec. I was in touch with him frequently as he continued to deal with such problems and his cancer ate him up. Now that he's dead at least have the common decency to curtail your poorly informed comments about what a con man he was. Willy Hermann Virus-free. www.avg.com <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Thu Aug 12 15:56:42 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Kevin Fetner via Naktalk) Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2021 13:56:42 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [naktalk] Marrs belts References: <1355024400.1124707.1628776602190.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1355024400.1124707.1628776602190@mail.yahoo.com> "........It’s odd that so many other one man US businesses in exactly the same space, such as Vintage Electronics, have no issues getting their goods all over the world, quickly, economically and efficiently. A charge of $45 to send a single belt from there to here was an absolute rip-off… especially as 90% of the time it would seem they were never actually sent!" That was exactly my point. Many US businesses handle selling goods all over the world, well. I'm not arguing for Fred. For whatever the reasons, Fred & his daughter could not cope with selling internationally. If he was having trouble keeping up and satisfying his customers in the States(and he was), why broaden your reach to the world? It's akin to having a child to save your failing marriage. Kevin -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Thu Aug 12 18:38:10 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (vidguy vidguy via Naktalk) Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2021 16:38:10 +0000 Subject: [naktalk] Marrs belts In-Reply-To: References: <1427451457.877641.1628691845628.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1427451457.877641.1628691845628@mail.yahoo.com> , Message-ID: Sorry, while he may have treated you well... he screwed over us "little" guys more than once. Don't blame the Customer. Get Outlook for Android ________________________________ From: Naktalk on behalf of Willy Hermann via Naktalk Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2021 12:31:51 PM To: RMSUK at icloud.com ; Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks Subject: Re: [naktalk] Marrs belts I can no longer stay silent on this issue. I have no knowledge of what has happened to Marrscommunications since Fred's death but I transacted business for several years with Fred and never knew him to be anything other than an honest, hard working businessman. He was put through the ringer by the likes of you several times as he dealt with his supply chain issues while doing his best to supply all of you a quality product which would actually meet Nakamichi spec. I was in touch with him frequently as he continued to deal with such problems and his cancer ate him up. Now that he's dead at least have the common decency to curtail your poorly informed comments about what a con man he was. 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He attempted to contact Fred / Krista on 109 occasions - they literally completely ignored his emails and on the only occasion he managed to get a reply, he was told to f@&k off by Fred. Nice way to do business. ________________________________ From: vidguy vidguy Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2021 5:38:10 PM To: RMSUK at icloud.com ; Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks ; Willy Hermann Subject: Re: [naktalk] Marrs belts Sorry, while he may have treated you well... he screwed over us "little" guys more than once. Don't blame the Customer. Get Outlook for Android ________________________________ From: Naktalk on behalf of Willy Hermann via Naktalk Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2021 12:31:51 PM To: RMSUK at icloud.com ; Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks Subject: Re: [naktalk] Marrs belts I can no longer stay silent on this issue. I have no knowledge of what has happened to Marrscommunications since Fred's death but I transacted business for several years with Fred and never knew him to be anything other than an honest, hard working businessman. He was put through the ringer by the likes of you several times as he dealt with his supply chain issues while doing his best to supply all of you a quality product which would actually meet Nakamichi spec. I was in touch with him frequently as he continued to deal with such problems and his cancer ate him up. Now that he's dead at least have the common decency to curtail your poorly informed comments about what a con man he was. Willy Hermann [https://ipmcdn.avast.com/images/icons/icon-envelope-tick-green-avg-v1.png] Virus-free. www.avg.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Thu Aug 12 21:20:41 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Steve Hammond via Naktalk) Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2021 19:20:41 +0000 Subject: [naktalk] Marrs belts In-Reply-To: References: <1427451457.877641.1628691845628.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1427451457.877641.1628691845628@mail.yahoo.com> , Message-ID: I agree with you Willy, I’ve never even dealt with marrs but I did inquire with them quite recently and a friendly young lady was very prompt and helpful with my inquiry. You’re right Willy, may he now Rest In Peace and let the comments be of peace and not hate. Get Outlook for iOS ________________________________ From: Naktalk on behalf of RMSUK at icloud.com via Naktalk Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2021 1:11:21 PM To: vidguy vidguy ; Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks ; Willy Hermann Subject: Re: [naktalk] Marrs belts If he was a straight-up, honest, hard working businessman, his daughter wouldn’t be facing a potential jail term for the continued rip-off activity. They robbed ‘00’s of individuals. You’re one person Willy, who got their goods; well great, I’m happy for you. One tech I know lost over £400 on a single order for 9… I repeat, NINE belts. He attempted to contact Fred / Krista on 109 occasions - they literally completely ignored his emails and on the only occasion he managed to get a reply, he was told to f@&k off by Fred. Nice way to do business. ________________________________ From: vidguy vidguy Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2021 5:38:10 PM To: RMSUK at icloud.com ; Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks ; Willy Hermann Subject: Re: [naktalk] Marrs belts Sorry, while he may have treated you well... he screwed over us "little" guys more than once. Don't blame the Customer. Get Outlook for Android ________________________________ From: Naktalk on behalf of Willy Hermann via Naktalk Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2021 12:31:51 PM To: RMSUK at icloud.com ; Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks Subject: Re: [naktalk] Marrs belts I can no longer stay silent on this issue. I have no knowledge of what has happened to Marrscommunications since Fred's death but I transacted business for several years with Fred and never knew him to be anything other than an honest, hard working businessman. He was put through the ringer by the likes of you several times as he dealt with his supply chain issues while doing his best to supply all of you a quality product which would actually meet Nakamichi spec. I was in touch with him frequently as he continued to deal with such problems and his cancer ate him up. Now that he's dead at least have the common decency to curtail your poorly informed comments about what a con man he was. Willy Hermann [https://ipmcdn.avast.com/images/icons/icon-envelope-tick-green-avg-v1.png] Virus-free. www.avg.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Thu Aug 12 21:42:55 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (RMSUK@icloud.com via Naktalk) Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2021 19:42:55 +0000 Subject: [naktalk] Marrs belts In-Reply-To: References: <1427451457.877641.1628691845628.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1427451457.877641.1628691845628@mail.yahoo.com> , Message-ID: Yeah, you’re right. It’s just fine to let them off because on the one occasion you spoke to one of the people who ran a scam - for that’s what it was - was “prompt and helpful”. You won’t feel that way if you place an order and you don’t get it… But then again they won’t have anything to send you as they lost their entire inventory in a fire…. https://www.sitejabber.com/reviews/marrscommunications.com BTW, Krista has a sideline business from the same address as a Tarot card reader. Enough said really…. ________________________________ From: Steve Hammond Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2021 8:20:41 PM To: RMSUK at icloud.com ; Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks ; vidguy vidguy ; Willy Hermann Subject: Re: [naktalk] Marrs belts I agree with you Willy, I’ve never even dealt with marrs but I did inquire with them quite recently and a friendly young lady was very prompt and helpful with my inquiry. You’re right Willy, may he now Rest In Peace and let the comments be of peace and not hate. Get Outlook for iOS ________________________________ From: Naktalk on behalf of RMSUK at icloud.com via Naktalk Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2021 1:11:21 PM To: vidguy vidguy ; Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks ; Willy Hermann Subject: Re: [naktalk] Marrs belts If he was a straight-up, honest, hard working businessman, his daughter wouldn’t be facing a potential jail term for the continued rip-off activity. They robbed ‘00’s of individuals. You’re one person Willy, who got their goods; well great, I’m happy for you. One tech I know lost over £400 on a single order for 9… I repeat, NINE belts. He attempted to contact Fred / Krista on 109 occasions - they literally completely ignored his emails and on the only occasion he managed to get a reply, he was told to f@&k off by Fred. Nice way to do business. ________________________________ From: vidguy vidguy Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2021 5:38:10 PM To: RMSUK at icloud.com ; Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks ; Willy Hermann Subject: Re: [naktalk] Marrs belts Sorry, while he may have treated you well... he screwed over us "little" guys more than once. Don't blame the Customer. Get Outlook for Android ________________________________ From: Naktalk on behalf of Willy Hermann via Naktalk Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2021 12:31:51 PM To: RMSUK at icloud.com ; Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks Subject: Re: [naktalk] Marrs belts I can no longer stay silent on this issue. I have no knowledge of what has happened to Marrscommunications since Fred's death but I transacted business for several years with Fred and never knew him to be anything other than an honest, hard working businessman. He was put through the ringer by the likes of you several times as he dealt with his supply chain issues while doing his best to supply all of you a quality product which would actually meet Nakamichi spec. I was in touch with him frequently as he continued to deal with such problems and his cancer ate him up. Now that he's dead at least have the common decency to curtail your poorly informed comments about what a con man he was. Willy Hermann [https://ipmcdn.avast.com/images/icons/icon-envelope-tick-green-avg-v1.png] Virus-free. www.avg.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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You won’t feel that way if you place an order and you don’t get it… But then again they won’t have anything to send you as they lost their entire inventory in a fire…. https://www.sitejabber.com/reviews/marrscommunications.com BTW, Krista has a sideline business from the same address as a Tarot card reader. Enough said really…. ________________________________ From: Steve Hammond Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2021 8:20:41 PM To: RMSUK at icloud.com ; Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks ; vidguy vidguy ; Willy Hermann Subject: Re: [naktalk] Marrs belts I agree with you Willy, I’ve never even dealt with marrs but I did inquire with them quite recently and a friendly young lady was very prompt and helpful with my inquiry. You’re right Willy, may he now Rest In Peace and let the comments be of peace and not hate. Get Outlook for iOS ________________________________ From: Naktalk on behalf of RMSUK at icloud.com via Naktalk Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2021 1:11:21 PM To: vidguy vidguy ; Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks ; Willy Hermann Subject: Re: [naktalk] Marrs belts If he was a straight-up, honest, hard working businessman, his daughter wouldn’t be facing a potential jail term for the continued rip-off activity. They robbed ‘00’s of individuals. You’re one person Willy, who got their goods; well great, I’m happy for you. One tech I know lost over £400 on a single order for 9… I repeat, NINE belts. He attempted to contact Fred / Krista on 109 occasions - they literally completely ignored his emails and on the only occasion he managed to get a reply, he was told to f@&k off by Fred. Nice way to do business. ________________________________ From: vidguy vidguy Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2021 5:38:10 PM To: RMSUK at icloud.com ; Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks ; Willy Hermann Subject: Re: [naktalk] Marrs belts Sorry, while he may have treated you well... he screwed over us "little" guys more than once. Don't blame the Customer. Get Outlook for Android ________________________________ From: Naktalk on behalf of Willy Hermann via Naktalk Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2021 12:31:51 PM To: RMSUK at icloud.com ; Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks Subject: Re: [naktalk] Marrs belts I can no longer stay silent on this issue. I have no knowledge of what has happened to Marrscommunications since Fred's death but I transacted business for several years with Fred and never knew him to be anything other than an honest, hard working businessman. He was put through the ringer by the likes of you several times as he dealt with his supply chain issues while doing his best to supply all of you a quality product which would actually meet Nakamichi spec. I was in touch with him frequently as he continued to deal with such problems and his cancer ate him up. Now that he's dead at least have the common decency to curtail your poorly informed comments about what a con man he was. Willy Hermann [https://ipmcdn.avast.com/images/icons/icon-envelope-tick-green-avg-v1.png] Virus-free. www.avg.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Thu Aug 12 21:52:22 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (RMSUK@icloud.com via Naktalk) Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2021 19:52:22 +0000 Subject: [naktalk] Marrs belts In-Reply-To: References: <1427451457.877641.1628691845628.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1427451457.877641.1628691845628@mail.yahoo.com> , Message-ID: Yep. Krista even had the brass neck to setup a “Go fund me” account to help the family. Oh btw, those pics are not their house…. ________________________________ From: Steve Hammond Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2021 8:46:45 PM To: RMSUK at icloud.com ; Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks ; vidguy vidguy ; Willy Hermann Subject: Re: [naktalk] Marrs belts Wow! 🤯 I was not aware… Get Outlook for iOS ________________________________ From: RMSUK at icloud.com Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2021 3:42:55 PM To: Steve Hammond ; Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks ; vidguy vidguy ; Willy Hermann Subject: Re: [naktalk] Marrs belts Yeah, you’re right. It’s just fine to let them off because on the one occasion you spoke to one of the people who ran a scam - for that’s what it was - was “prompt and helpful”. You won’t feel that way if you place an order and you don’t get it… But then again they won’t have anything to send you as they lost their entire inventory in a fire…. https://www.sitejabber.com/reviews/marrscommunications.com BTW, Krista has a sideline business from the same address as a Tarot card reader. Enough said really…. ________________________________ From: Steve Hammond Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2021 8:20:41 PM To: RMSUK at icloud.com ; Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks ; vidguy vidguy ; Willy Hermann Subject: Re: [naktalk] Marrs belts I agree with you Willy, I’ve never even dealt with marrs but I did inquire with them quite recently and a friendly young lady was very prompt and helpful with my inquiry. You’re right Willy, may he now Rest In Peace and let the comments be of peace and not hate. Get Outlook for iOS ________________________________ From: Naktalk on behalf of RMSUK at icloud.com via Naktalk Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2021 1:11:21 PM To: vidguy vidguy ; Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks ; Willy Hermann Subject: Re: [naktalk] Marrs belts If he was a straight-up, honest, hard working businessman, his daughter wouldn’t be facing a potential jail term for the continued rip-off activity. They robbed ‘00’s of individuals. You’re one person Willy, who got their goods; well great, I’m happy for you. One tech I know lost over £400 on a single order for 9… I repeat, NINE belts. He attempted to contact Fred / Krista on 109 occasions - they literally completely ignored his emails and on the only occasion he managed to get a reply, he was told to f@&k off by Fred. Nice way to do business. ________________________________ From: vidguy vidguy Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2021 5:38:10 PM To: RMSUK at icloud.com ; Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks ; Willy Hermann Subject: Re: [naktalk] Marrs belts Sorry, while he may have treated you well... he screwed over us "little" guys more than once. Don't blame the Customer. Get Outlook for Android ________________________________ From: Naktalk on behalf of Willy Hermann via Naktalk Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2021 12:31:51 PM To: RMSUK at icloud.com ; Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks Subject: Re: [naktalk] Marrs belts I can no longer stay silent on this issue. I have no knowledge of what has happened to Marrscommunications since Fred's death but I transacted business for several years with Fred and never knew him to be anything other than an honest, hard working businessman. He was put through the ringer by the likes of you several times as he dealt with his supply chain issues while doing his best to supply all of you a quality product which would actually meet Nakamichi spec. I was in touch with him frequently as he continued to deal with such problems and his cancer ate him up. Now that he's dead at least have the common decency to curtail your poorly informed comments about what a con man he was. Willy Hermann [https://ipmcdn.avast.com/images/icons/icon-envelope-tick-green-avg-v1.png] Virus-free. www.avg.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Fri Aug 13 14:57:12 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Mark Harris via Naktalk) Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2021 13:57:12 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] Nakamichi service jigs Message-ID: <7B306FDF-B614-4A50-8348-E010C4054D77@virginmedia.com> Hi, I’m looking for genuine Nakamichi service gauges and jigs. DA-9047, 9038, 9039, 9040 etc. Please email me if you know of any for sale. Regards, Mark From naktalk at lists.naks.com Fri Aug 13 15:40:12 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Rodrigo dos Santos Rocha via Naktalk) Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2021 10:40:12 -0300 Subject: [naktalk] Nakamichi service jigs In-Reply-To: <7B306FDF-B614-4A50-8348-E010C4054D77@virginmedia.com> References: <7B306FDF-B614-4A50-8348-E010C4054D77@virginmedia.com> Message-ID: <64682149-5304-41AD-88BD-30ED98AAEE96@terra.com.br> Hi Mark, Have you spoken to WillY Herman? He hás made some serious gaguez for Nakamichi, just not sure if they are what your looking for or if he still hás any in inventor. willy at willyhermannservices.com Good luck! Rodrigo Krause dos Santos Rocha rksr59 at terra.com.br 21 99964-6202 > On 13 Aug 2021, at 09:57, Mark Harris via Naktalk wrote: > > Hi, > > I’m looking for genuine Nakamichi service gauges and jigs. DA-9047, 9038, 9039, 9040 etc. Please email me if you know of any for sale. > > Regards, > > Mark > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Just note that here in Brazil customs is quite boring and in the invoice use low values as USD5 is more than enough just to avoid delay. It would also be good to put the address to avoid shipping errors. Cheers, Marcelo -----Mensagem original----- De: Naktalk Em nome de Joy-Ell & Rainer via Naktalk Enviada em: terça-feira, 29 de junho de 2021 23:03 Para: Naktalk Assunto: [naktalk] ATR Pro Chrome traveling tape Since we have run into a snag sending the tape from the USA to Turkey, Jeff is going to send the tape back to me in Canada and I will send it to Ural in Turkey from here. Anyone wanting to add or update their information should get an invitation to edit the spread sheet from Daniel and/or post it on Naktalk so that one of us can update. After Ural, Marcelo is next in Brazil! :) Here is what we have so far: Rainer Canada Amado Mio Good Vibrations Daniel Canada Goodbye yellow brick road I'm an errand girl for rhythm Perry USA Hasn't listed info yet Miroslav Canada Bowing out because of surgery but maybe in later Ural Turkey Jeff USA Charlotte Sometimes Listen Marcelo Brazil Geoff William Cheers, Rainer ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------=========   g:\07. razno\naktalk archive\2021\2021-9.txt ************************************************************************ From naktalk at lists.naks.com Tue Sep 14 14:44:20 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Perry.nak via Naktalk) Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2021 08:44:20 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] Traveling tape change Message-ID: I just received a note from William Talbot that his location was pretty hammered by the recent hurricanes, and wishes to withdraw from the traveling tape project. I am not sure where the tape is currently, and for some reason my link to the update spreadsheet no longer works. So please delete his name from participation. Perry Sent from my iPhone -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Tue Sep 14 14:44:43 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Perry.nak via Naktalk) Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2021 08:44:43 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] Traveling tape change Message-ID: I just received a note from William Talbot that his location was pretty hammered by the recent hurricanes, and wishes to withdraw from the traveling tape project. I am not sure where the tape is currently, and for some reason my link to the update spreadsheet no longer works. So please delete his name from participation. Perry Sent from my iPhone -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I've previously been advised to replace C601 and C604 capacitors on the PCB A board, which has been done, bit it unfortunately made no difference. Any other suggestions please? Thanks in advance. Terry ========---------------------------------------------------------=========           Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com ========---------------------------------------------------------=========                         Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Tue Sep 14 16:13:12 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Mark Harris via Naktalk) Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2021 15:13:12 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] ZXL erratic fluorescent display In-Reply-To: <59608941.3277874.1631627251691@mail.yahoo.com> References: <59608941.3277874.1631627251691@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Sounds like the display driver IC is the problem? Sent from my iPhone > On 14 Sep 2021, at 14:55, Carlos Guzman via Naktalk wrote: > >  I had the same problem with one of my ZXE and it turned out to be an unobtainable IC which Perry found in China after several months. It’s not the same meter, but who knows it’s related to an IC. > > Regards, > > > Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone > > On Tuesday, September 14, 2021, 9:37 AM, Terry Barton via Naktalk wrote: > > Hi all, > > I have a 1000 ZXL which is functioning perfectly apart from one aspect, the digital fluorescent display. My engineer is an analogue expert so has been unable to rectify the problem. Essentially the display is working but not properly, I would describe it as having random bursts of inaccurate readings. > > I've previously been advised to replace C601 and C604 capacitors on the PCB A board, which has been done, bit it unfortunately made no difference. 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Regards, Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Tuesday, September 14, 2021, 9:37 AM, Terry Barton via Naktalk wrote: Hi all, I have a 1000 ZXL which is functioning perfectly apart from one aspect, the digital fluorescent display. My engineer is an analogue expert so has been unable to rectify the problem. Essentially the display is working but not properly, I would describe it as having random bursts of inaccurate readings. I've previously been advised to replace C601 and C604 capacitors on the PCB A board, which has been done, bit it unfortunately made no difference. Any other suggestions please? Thanks in advance. 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URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Tue Sep 14 16:24:27 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Carlos Guzman via Naktalk) Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2021 14:24:27 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [naktalk] ZXL erratic fluorescent display In-Reply-To: References: <59608941.3277874.1631627251691@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1600984879.3298531.1631629468002@mail.yahoo.com> Hopefully not, Terry. I used to have (2) 1000 zxl years ago and the black one developed a problem with the meter. It turned out to be a bad contact. Unfortunately, these old behemoths has some parts that are no longer available, unless you find a donor deck.  Let’s hope it’s not a serious issue. Regards. Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Tuesday, September 14, 2021, 10:19 AM, Terry Barton wrote: Hi both, And if it is the IC, does that mean it's basically unrepairable? From: Naktalk on behalf of Mark Harris via Naktalk Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 3:13:12 PM To: Carlos Guzman ; Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks Subject: Re: [naktalk] ZXL erratic fluorescent display Sounds like the display driver IC is the problem? Sent from my iPhone On 14 Sep 2021, at 14:55, Carlos Guzman via Naktalk wrote:  I had the same problem with one of my ZXE and it turned out to be an unobtainable IC which Perry found in China after several months. It’s not the same meter, but who knows it’s related to an IC. Regards, Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Tuesday, September 14, 2021, 9:37 AM, Terry Barton via Naktalk wrote: Hi all, I have a 1000 ZXL which is functioning perfectly apart from one aspect, the digital fluorescent display. My engineer is an analogue expert so has been unable to rectify the problem. Essentially the display is working but not properly, I would describe it as having random bursts of inaccurate readings. 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URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Tue Sep 14 16:53:52 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (N.van.wijnen@ziggo.nl via Naktalk) Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2021 16:53:52 +0200 Subject: [naktalk] ZXL erratic fluorescent display In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7F9BB156-900F-4CE6-BA9B-1DCAB11154CD@ziggo.nl> Hi Terry, Inside the display unit you find some orange caps. First replace them. If that is not the solution then look at the opamps on the detector board. Best regards Norman Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad > Op 14 sep. 2021 om 14:56 heeft Terry Barton via Naktalk het volgende geschreven: >  > Hi all, > > I have a 1000 ZXL which is functioning perfectly apart from one aspect, the digital fluorescent display. My engineer is an analogue expert so has been unable to rectify the problem. Essentially the display is working but not properly, I would describe it as having random bursts of inaccurate readings. > > I've previously been advised to replace C601 and C604 capacitors on the PCB A board, which has been done, bit it unfortunately made no difference. Any other suggestions please? > > Thanks in advance. > > Terry > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Tue Sep 14 17:06:37 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Ural Durusu via Naktalk) Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2021 18:06:37 +0300 Subject: [naktalk] Traveling tape change In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8FA321E4-43BA-49AC-A470-D6E0143ABF5C@kozaglobal.com> Tracking number is RR349752366TR you can track it from ptt.gov.tr I checked the item. It is received by the exchange office in Brazil on August 23. Ural iPhone’umdan gönderildi > Perry.nak via Naktalk şunları yazdı (14 Eyl 2021 15:44): > >  > I just received a note from William Talbot that his location was pretty hammered by the recent hurricanes, and wishes to withdraw from the traveling tape project. I am not sure where the tape is currently, and for some reason my link to the update spreadsheet no longer works. So please delete his name from participation. > > Perry > > Sent from my iPhone > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Tue Sep 14 17:58:05 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Gerhard Wartha via Naktalk) Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2021 17:58:05 +0200 Subject: [naktalk] ZXL erratic fluorescent display In-Reply-To: <7F9BB156-900F-4CE6-BA9B-1DCAB11154CD@ziggo.nl> References: <7F9BB156-900F-4CE6-BA9B-1DCAB11154CD@ziggo.nl> Message-ID: <264A31DC-2AC3-4A67-AA95-BC32EDFBD606@gmail.com> Hi, Norman. Inside the meter box, on FL indicator PCB are two orange PP capacitors. replace them, and check all connectors. Plus the Supply Voltage from CN 37 Power PCB . also check the CN37 cables, They are a little short to open the decks back face. C601 C604 and check the pot VR601 on Indicator PC, If all that does not solve the Problem: The meter is a Vacuum tube made by NEC. If the deck is very, very, used a tube like that can go bad. But that takes a very, very,long time of use, I do know seven 1000ZXL so far, never seen this tube itself in not working condition. kind regards Gerhard / Vienna www.ebay.com/itm/255135436672 From naktalk at lists.naks.com Tue Sep 14 21:30:34 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Garner, Scott H via Naktalk) Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2021 19:30:34 +0000 Subject: [naktalk] EXTERNAL: Re: ZXL erratic fluorescent display In-Reply-To: <7F9BB156-900F-4CE6-BA9B-1DCAB11154CD@ziggo.nl> References: <7F9BB156-900F-4CE6-BA9B-1DCAB11154CD@ziggo.nl> Message-ID: What type of caps did you use? They have to be the right type, polypropylene. If not the oscillator doesn’t run right. Do you have an oscilloscope? From: Naktalk On Behalf Of N.van.wijnen at ziggo.nl via Naktalk Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 8:54 AM To: Terry Barton ; Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: [naktalk] ZXL erratic fluorescent display Hi Terry, Inside the display unit you find some orange caps. First replace them. If that is not the solution then look at the opamps on the detector board. Best regards Norman Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad Op 14 sep. 2021 om 14:56 heeft Terry Barton via Naktalk > het volgende geschreven:  Hi all, I have a 1000 ZXL which is functioning perfectly apart from one aspect, the digital fluorescent display. My engineer is an analogue expert so has been unable to rectify the problem. Essentially the display is working but not properly, I would describe it as having random bursts of inaccurate readings. I've previously been advised to replace C601 and C604 capacitors on the PCB A board, which has been done, bit it unfortunately made no difference. Any other suggestions please? Thanks in advance. 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URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Wed Sep 15 00:34:07 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Terry Barton via Naktalk) Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2021 22:34:07 +0000 Subject: [naktalk] ZXL erratic fluorescent display In-Reply-To: <1610090169.101647.1631658486213@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1610090169.101647.1631658486213@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Thank you Bala and others, that's definitely added to the things we can check. ________________________________ From: Bala Ganesh Chandra Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 11:28:06 PM To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks ; Terry Barton Subject: Re: [naktalk] ZXL erratic fluorescent display HI Terry, In accurate bursts on the display are quite commonly caused by poor contact between the detector board and main board into which it sits. There may be other faults but aside from replacing the PP caps as has been suggested here, the contact is the most common issue. Try cleaning the contacts and ensuring that the female ends on the boards have sufficient tension. I have NOS parts available for the ZXLs and I am sure with the collective brains trust here, the metering will be fixed. Kind Regards B On Tuesday, September 14, 2021, 11:13:03 PM GMT+10, Terry Barton via Naktalk wrote: Hi all, I have a 1000 ZXL which is functioning perfectly apart from one aspect, the digital fluorescent display. My engineer is an analogue expert so has been unable to rectify the problem. Essentially the display is working but not properly, I would describe it as having random bursts of inaccurate readings. I've previously been advised to replace C601 and C604 capacitors on the PCB A board, which has been done, bit it unfortunately made no difference. Any other suggestions please? Thanks in advance. Terry ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Wed Sep 15 00:28:06 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Bala Ganesh Chandra via Naktalk) Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2021 22:28:06 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [naktalk] ZXL erratic fluorescent display In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1610090169.101647.1631658486213@mail.yahoo.com> HI Terry,  In accurate bursts on the display are quite commonly caused by poor contact between the detector board and main board into which it sits. There may be other faults but aside from replacing the PP caps as has been suggested here, the contact is the most common issue. Try cleaning the contacts and ensuring that the female ends on the boards have sufficient tension.  I have NOS parts available for the ZXLs and I am sure with the collective brains trust here, the metering will be fixed.  Kind Regards B On Tuesday, September 14, 2021, 11:13:03 PM GMT+10, Terry Barton via Naktalk wrote: Hi all, I have a 1000 ZXL which is functioning perfectly apart from one aspect, the digital fluorescent display. My engineer is an analogue expert so has been unable to rectify the problem. Essentially the display is working but not properly, I would describe it as having random bursts of inaccurate readings. I've previously been advised to replace C601 and C604 capacitors on the PCB A board, which has been done, bit it unfortunately made no difference. Any other suggestions please? Thanks in advance. 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URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Wed Sep 15 18:24:25 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Garner, Scott H via Naktalk) Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2021 16:24:25 +0000 Subject: [naktalk] EXTERNAL: Re: ZXL erratic fluorescent display In-Reply-To: <1610090169.101647.1631658486213@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1610090169.101647.1631658486213@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <34860b0627ce4b6fac51f546c4c22901@lmco.com> If both channels are bursting to the point where the display is turning off for a second, no elements lit, then one of the 2 oscillators on the FL indicator PCB A board is not working From: Naktalk On Behalf Of Bala Ganesh Chandra via Naktalk Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 4:28 PM To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks ; Terry Barton Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: [naktalk] ZXL erratic fluorescent display HI Terry, In accurate bursts on the display are quite commonly caused by poor contact between the detector board and main board into which it sits. There may be other faults but aside from replacing the PP caps as has been suggested here, the contact is the most common issue. Try cleaning the contacts and ensuring that the female ends on the boards have sufficient tension. I have NOS parts available for the ZXLs and I am sure with the collective brains trust here, the metering will be fixed. Kind Regards B On Tuesday, September 14, 2021, 11:13:03 PM GMT+10, Terry Barton via Naktalk > wrote: Hi all, I have a 1000 ZXL which is functioning perfectly apart from one aspect, the digital fluorescent display. My engineer is an analogue expert so has been unable to rectify the problem. Essentially the display is working but not properly, I would describe it as having random bursts of inaccurate readings. I've previously been advised to replace C601 and C604 capacitors on the PCB A board, which has been done, bit it unfortunately made no difference. Any other suggestions please? Thanks in advance. Terry ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Wed Sep 15 22:28:59 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Garner, Scott H via Naktalk) Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2021 20:28:59 +0000 Subject: [naktalk] EXTERNAL: Re: ZXL erratic fluorescent display In-Reply-To: <1610090169.101647.1631658486213@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1610090169.101647.1631658486213@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <35105005755f4274a98d7615a68941b7@lmco.com> Another wat the display will shut all the way off is the mute line into the FL indicator PCB A board. From: Naktalk On Behalf Of Bala Ganesh Chandra via Naktalk Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 4:28 PM To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks ; Terry Barton Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: [naktalk] ZXL erratic fluorescent display HI Terry, In accurate bursts on the display are quite commonly caused by poor contact between the detector board and main board into which it sits. There may be other faults but aside from replacing the PP caps as has been suggested here, the contact is the most common issue. Try cleaning the contacts and ensuring that the female ends on the boards have sufficient tension. I have NOS parts available for the ZXLs and I am sure with the collective brains trust here, the metering will be fixed. Kind Regards B On Tuesday, September 14, 2021, 11:13:03 PM GMT+10, Terry Barton via Naktalk > wrote: Hi all, I have a 1000 ZXL which is functioning perfectly apart from one aspect, the digital fluorescent display. My engineer is an analogue expert so has been unable to rectify the problem. Essentially the display is working but not properly, I would describe it as having random bursts of inaccurate readings. I've previously been advised to replace C601 and C604 capacitors on the PCB A board, which has been done, bit it unfortunately made no difference. Any other suggestions please? Thanks in advance. Terry ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Thu Sep 16 04:21:44 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Joy-Ell & Rainer via Naktalk) Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2021 22:21:44 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] Traveling tape change In-Reply-To: <8FA321E4-43BA-49AC-A470-D6E0143ABF5C@kozaglobal.com> References: <8FA321E4-43BA-49AC-A470-D6E0143ABF5C@kozaglobal.com> Message-ID: <1631758904.0jo0ftkk2s88gggo@webmail.sasktel.net> No hurry, but It sure would be nice to hear from Marcelo or from anyone who has heard from him. Hopefully he's OK. Rainer On Tue, 14 Sep 2021 18:06:37 +0300, Ural Durusu via Naktalk wrote: Tracking number is RR349752366TR you can track it from ptt.gov.tr I checked the item. It is received by the exchange office in Brazil on August 23.   Ural   iPhone’umdan gönderildi   Perry.nak via Naktalk şunları yazdı (14 Eyl 2021 15:44):    I just received a note from William Talbot that his location was pretty hammered by the recent hurricanes, and wishes to withdraw from the traveling tape project. I am not sure where the tape is currently, and for some reason my link to the update spreadsheet no longer works. 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URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Sat Sep 18 19:10:24 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Joy-Ell & Rainer via Naktalk) Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2021 13:10:24 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] traveling tape Message-ID: <1631985024.iyfw7zpqo844kckk@webmail.sasktel.net> Has anyone heard from Marcelo ?? Rainer S. (80stech) From naktalk at lists.naks.com Fri Sep 24 22:24:46 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Stephen Clarke via Naktalk) Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2021 20:24:46 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [naktalk] ZX-9 values? References: <409140432.1600065.1632515086242.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <409140432.1600065.1632515086242@mail.yahoo.com> Dear All: Can someone advise me what current resale values are for ZX-9s in A+ condition? Mine is for sale. Ser. #s: A125 / 02213. Many Maxell 90 min. metal tapes also included. Thank you, Stephen Clarke, CO, USA -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Sat Sep 25 17:28:21 2021 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Perry.nak via Naktalk) Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2021 11:28:21 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] ZX-9 value Message-ID: An A+ ZX-9 with many metal tapes should easily sell for $2000 on ebay, assuming A+ also means it operates fine. They are in high demand. Of course, deduct $300 in ebay fees. I have a few customers that have previously expressed interest in finding a ZX-9, somlet me know if you want me to pass this along. Perry